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Title: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 4th, 2015 at 6:46pm
A study published by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre suggests there is an increase of Antarctic snow which is adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh increased losses from thinning glaciers.But Antarctic scientists say more study is needed and people should not just disregard decades of Antarctic research.According to the lead author the study is based on East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica where he says there is an ice gain that exceeds losses in other areas. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/business/tech/2015/11/04/nasa-suggests-an-increase-in-antarctic-ice.html?cid=BP_RSS_tech_0_nasa-suggests-an-increase-in-antarctic-ice_041115#sthash.7e64bkCN.dpuf
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 4th, 2015 at 6:47pm
Not from the Daily Telegraph. It's from Sky News quoting a NASA report. Leftwits, attempt to refute.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by The Mechanic on Nov 4th, 2015 at 6:52pm |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Bam on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:00pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 6:46pm:
Cherrypicking local effects does not refute global warming. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by The Mechanic on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:03pm |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Kiron22 on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:03pm
Also the report highlighted that oceans are still rising, so simply the systems involved are far more complex than they previously thought.
Though, leave it up to the Australian media to spin this into a "Climate change isn't real" story. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:06pm Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
Yep like those sea levels for Kiribati and Mui Ne I posted. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:08pm lee wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:06pm:
Yep, and those rains that Flim Flannery said would never be enough to fill the dams, eh? |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Bam on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:08pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:03pm: CRA Mining 1989 pushed the same line. If we used the same argument in everyday life, NOTHING would get done. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:11pm Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
So CO2 may not be the Primary Driver of Climate Change? |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Sir Bobby on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:13pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 6:46pm:
It's all according to the divine plan namaste |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 4th, 2015 at 7:15pm |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:26pm
But more ice is still leaving the Antarctic and forming and extending sea ice. When these shelves let go, drift off and melt they will cause significant sea level rises.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:50pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
Sea ice melts and raises the sea level? Really? |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:52pm
You didn’t read what I wrote. Try again.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:58pm lee wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
It is certainly interesting to read what passes for 'knowledge' among the true believers, isn't it?? |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 4th, 2015 at 10:02pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:52pm:
Let's see Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
The ice is leaving the Antarctic - check It is forming and extending sea ice - check Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
That is, the shelves that are formed and extended from sea ice (same para) - check Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
These sea ice shelves when they melt will cause significant sea level rise. - check |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:21am lee wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 10:02pm:
The simplest things elude Joke Monk. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by progressiveslol on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:38am
Known underwater volcanos spew out mass. Unknown volcanos do too except the mass is of unknown quantity. It all raises sea level.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:15am lee wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
I was waiting for some dope to say that melting sea ice raises sea levels. Jovial is dumb enough to say so. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:14pm
Jovial has run away after his horrible faux pas about melting sea ice raising sea levels.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:22pm
The facts are- and this is the beginning of all climate change theory: the southern hemisphere is colder than the northern hemisphere!
** Working out why this was the observed reality led to 100 years plus of scientific method on the oceanic conveyor knows as the thermo-haline cycle. hey, i know: let's all vote for copper internet and pretend we're smarter than everyone else on the planet ::) ::) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:26pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:14pm:
I think you will find jovial was saying the extra sea ice in antarctica was coming from the melting continent of antartica itself.... therefore raising sea levels because it was originally from the land ;) ;) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:27pm progressiveslol wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:38am:
volcanoes are like pimples on the eath: nothing, and that is how the science world regards them :D :D |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:28pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:26pm:
Jovial said no such thing and if he had, he would have been here saying so. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:47pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:28pm:
Jovial has nothing to prove : he knows copper internet is a global joke and you pretend that you don't :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:03pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:47pm:
You pretend that you know your name and what year it is. We know that you don't without asking someone - probably your carer. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:18pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
DOOD, YOU PRETEND YOU'RE A GIRL ;) ;) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:36pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 3:26pm:
That would be true if Antarctica was suffering a net ice loss. As Antarctica is still accreting ice, according to NASA; that would seem not to be so. All other things being equal. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:47pm lee wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:36pm:
tHE MATHEMATICAL STATEMENT 'IFF' MEANS "IF AND ONLY IF" ;) ;) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:47pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:18pm:
You pretend you are sentient. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:49pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
CRACK IS SO BORING: YOU SHOULD TELL YOUR FRIENDS THAT COUNTING INHERITED BEANS IS MORE FUN ;D ;D |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:58pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
Did I Use IFF? ;) Edit: But if wasn't used as an operand. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:03pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
It's not a statement. It is a FUNCTION. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:05pm
It is NOT a function! I thought you were good at maths? Year 9 arithmetic is NOT maths!
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:05pm:
Use it in a statement. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:25pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
It is a logical construct, not a function. BTW Longy, your comment is wanted in the MTM thread you coward! |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:26pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
If wishes were horses all men would ride. ;) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 5th, 2015 at 7:04pm
This relationship would hold IFF something else was true.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 7:11pm
IFF the operator
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 5th, 2015 at 7:14pm
Operator NOT a function. Longy obviously knows no higher math. Year 9 math it is.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 5th, 2015 at 7:30pm
This global warming religion cannot get their story straight.
Gore said Ice is decreasing when the truth is it has increased. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:03pm
Only in Antarctica and the glaciers there are thinning and more ice is going into the sea, making ice shelves bigger. That snow from way past is compacting into ice has nothing to do with anything.
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:18pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:03pm:
That's not what the study says. Ice mass is increasing. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 9:21pm
And in a further study released today-
'The Amundsen Sea sector of the West Antarctic ice sheet has been losing mass in recent decades; however, long records of snow accumulation are needed to place the recent changes in context. Here we present 300 year records of snow accumulation from two ice cores drilled in Ellsworth Land, West Antarctica. The records show a dramatic increase in snow accumulation during the twentieth century, linked to a deepening of the Amundsen Sea Low (ASL), tropical sea surface temperatures, and large-scale atmospheric circulation. The observed increase in snow accumulation and interannual variability during the late twentieth century is unprecedented in the context of the past 300 years and evidence that the recent deepening of the ASL is part of a longer trend.' http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015GL065750/abstract?campaign=wlytk-41855.5282060185 or the press release from the American Geophysical Union- http://news.agu.org/press-release/west-antarctic-coastal-snow-accumulation-rose-30-percent-during-20th-century-new-study-finds/ 'Annual snow accumulation increased in the early 20th century, rising 30 percent between 1900 and 2010, according to the new study. The study’s authors found that in the last 30 years of the study, the ice sheet gained nearly 5 meters (16 feet) more water than it did during the first 30 years of the studied time period.' |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Chimp_Logic on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:27pm lee wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:18pm:
what else does the study say lee? Did you read the entire article? You may need to apologise and then self ban for 48 hours there are standards to uphold in this sacred place we cant just have posters barging in here, willy nilly, frothing at the mouth and excreting verbal inaccuracies |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:43pm Chimp_Logic wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:27pm:
My standards don't go that low. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by mariacostel on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:14am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 7:14pm:
IFF() is a function |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Chimp_Logic on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:26am lee wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 10:43pm:
So now you are claiming that you actually have and adhere to standards??? Pull yourself together lee Apologise Apologise in writing and immediately implement a self ban period of 48 hours Do the right moral thing for once in your deranged and pathetic existence |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:47am
It's so nice of you to let everyone know when you realise you've lost Chimp.
The 'apologise and self ban' response is almost Pavlovian. ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Chimp_Logic on Nov 6th, 2015 at 9:35am gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:47am:
Ladies and gentlemen, THE GREAT GIZMO has spoken. a deranged putrid scoundrel who has still not FULLY read the article in question....and thus expouses his vile vomiting verbal excrement upon the innocent and kind hearted... still doesnt understand still exhibits hatred for the children of the world ....for the children of the future |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 6th, 2015 at 10:24am Chimp_Logic wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:26am:
I apologise for telling the truth. I know it is something not often done, here. I will not self-ban to boost the ego of a naked chimp. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:36pm Chimp_Logic wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 9:35am:
Yep, a person who HAS 'fully read the article in question' and STILL realises and 'espouses' his accurate and correct opinion... |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:54pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 7:30pm:
.....it's doing both snapper-head: the balance is what people are investigating! You know what balance is doodle-head? It implies complexity :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:56pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:14am:
No mathematician would name a function IFF as it would cause confusion with the operator IFF. You don’t really know any maths, do you Longy? The way you avoid answering the material in the MTM thread shows you are wrong there as well. Those 48mm copper coax cables? They are so heavy new power poles will be needed. Be easier and better just to roll out FTTH, eh? |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:58pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:54pm:
It's doing neither, crack-head...and everyone, other than idiots like you, knows it |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:56pm:
(....and there i was thinking the function went inside the brackets :o :o :o :o :o :o :o) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:03pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:58pm:
snow lines are changing.... wind patterns are changing and therefore so is rainfall!! It's all precipitation!! Your kids still love you but 'iff' you've got the cashola ready to hand over like a good tryhard upper middle class mcdaddykins :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:09pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:03pm:
And you haven't shown a link to AGW. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:17pm lee wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:09pm:
And there is almost no chance that he/she ever will... |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 6th, 2015 at 4:42pm lee wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:09pm:
I have produced the product ;) ;) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 6th, 2015 at 4:44pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 2:17pm:
you are innocent of all charges the forum screams in unison ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 6th, 2015 at 5:07pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 4:44pm:
[color=#999999]you are innocent of all charges the forum screams in unison ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)/quote] Yep and you are so stupid that you believe the poo that warmists say.. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 6th, 2015 at 5:28pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 5:07pm:
do you sit around smoking harvey norman brosephs all day?? please, tell me/the forum :"... why is crack so tolerable??" boats are bugger* all you know broseph: people die and poo in pleasure craft you tryhards spend your life trying to own... it's all be done under th esun proseph and you are c&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 8-) 8-) 8-) |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 7th, 2015 at 2:25am
From the article linked in the OP:
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So as I said, more and more ice (glaciers thinning at an increasing rate) are losing ice to iceshelves around the coast. This ice will melt causing sea level increases when the shelves let go. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by LifeOrDeath on Nov 7th, 2015 at 2:57am
LOL :D :D :D
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Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by lee on Nov 7th, 2015 at 11:42am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 2:25am:
Only if there is a net ice mass loss. An ice mass gain will logically reduce sea level, all other thing being equal. |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by progressiveslol on Nov 8th, 2015 at 12:30am lee wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 11:42am:
That would seem a little hard to understand for most AGW nutters |
Title: Re: NASA suggests an increase in Antarctic ice Post by Mal_whatuploadspeed_Turnbull on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:42pm |
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