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Message started by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:45pm

Title: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:45pm
[urlhttp://www.news.com.au/national/crime/queensland-police-investigate-suspected-murder-of-schoolgirl-tiahleigh-palmer/story-fns0kb1g-1227601302888][/url]

IT was fishermen who found her. The body of 12-year-old Tiahleigh Palmer was badly decomposed and confirmed the worst fears of her family.
Until the grim discovery of the little girl’s body on the banks of a Gold Coast river, police wondered if she had just run away from home. After all, Tiahleigh had done it before. But this time her family knew something was very wrong.
Her mother had scoured the streets, a Facebook page was setup calling for sightings and her grandmother called police and told them: “Do you want another Daniel Morcombe?”
With no word from Tia and no clue as to where she could be, the family hoped she could be hiding out somewhere, that she would be found and it would all be over.
But the discovery of her body last Thursday, on a remote stretch of the Pimpama River in northern Gold Coast ended that hope, and now a team of 50 detectives is working on what is being treated as a homicide inquiry.



this is what I mean about letting our kids down.....

some how this child was ignored because  she had run away in the past.... something a terrible lot of kids do my own son was one of them... grrrrr... another story...

I hate it when parents are ignored they do have hidden instincts its time we believed them no one will know if an instant search would have saved this child... but at least the family wouldnt be left wondering like they are now...

we cant have this attitude... a child comes to the attention  of DOCS then it stays there even until they reach 15 I dont care how much it costs....we have to do MORE...... does anyone else try to imagine the last moments of these terrified kids... I do....I cant help myself..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by John Smith on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm
who said she was ignored?

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:21pm
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30032272/vigil-for-lost-qld-schoolgirl/

"A child protection advocate says children in foster care are being left exposed by the legislation designed to protect them.

Bravehearts founder Hetty Johnston says the suspected murder of Brisbane schoolgirl Tiahleigh Palmer highlights the need for reform to the Child Protection Act.

Ms Johnston says the six-day delay between Tiahleigh's disappearance on October 30 and the police alert would have been due to laws restricting publicity about children in state care.

The 12-year-old's body was discovered on the banks of a Gold Coast river hours after police had issued their alert.

Ms Johnston says the restrictions on carers and parents when a foster child goes missing are actually making them targets for predators.

"They can target these particular kids because they are far more vulnerable than any other and response to their disappearance is less than adequate," she told AAP.

"If someone stole your child you'd be all over the place in 30 seconds and you'd be allowed to by law - but these parents, these families and these foster carers can't and these offenders know that. Make no mistake.

"We've got to change it."

Under the Child Protection Act, specific permissions have to be granted before anything which may identify a child in care is published.

However, Minister for Child Safety Shannon Fentiman said that shouldn't prevent a foster child from being named to media as missing.

"The Child Protection Act prevents people from naming children and disclosing they are in care, it does not prevent naming children who are missing, or taking every possible action to find them, including speaking in the media, or through social media," Ms Fentiman said.

Foster Carers Queensland chief executive Bryan Smith echoed Ms Johnston's frustrations.

"While we have to report (missing kids) to police straightaway ... our hands are tied then in terms of what the confidentiality provisions under the act tell us we're allowed to do," Mr Smith told AAP.

He said a carer could not contact the child's biological family even if they believed that was where the child may be.

"Essentially nothing. We can't do anything," he said.

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the government would look into such concerns and also requested a briefing from the child safety department.

"There's not a person throughout this state who is not touched by what has happened to this poor young girl," she said.

Detectives questioned pupils at Marsden State High School in south Brisbane as they returned for the first day back since Tiahleigh's body was identified.

"She was an enthusiastic and friendly student who will be greatly missed by all her friends and teachers," principal Andrew Peach said."


We need to wait on the findings.... you know how I hate to discuss these things....

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:23pm
I just hope that if there is another dirty deed here, Bobby gets his wish... sometimes I am sorely tried by some people and their actions.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:34pm
Ms Johnston says the six-day delay between Tiahleigh's disappearance on October 30 and the police alert would have been due to laws restricting publicity about children in state care.

The 12-year-old's body was discovered on the banks of a Gold Coast river hours after police had issued their alert.

Ms Johnston says the restrictions on carers and parents when a foster child goes missing are actually making them targets for predators.

"They can target these particular kids because they are far more vulnerable than any other and response to their disappearance is less than adequate," she told AAP.


precisely grap thanks for putting that up...

we need to make MORE NOISE>. I dont care if this kid was a runaway.. SHE needed even more protection if you like...


as Ms Johnston says these kids are being watched it isnt rocket science...these predators can smell them a smell them a mile away.... why cant we do more to protect out kids... why cant we make the penalty for doing them harm twice as much as any other penalty... I am all for throwing away the key... like we did with Milat. 

some people should never mix in society they abuse everything we stand for..

we spend more money caring for prisoners than we do for caring for our kids.....has anyone seena deprived prisoner???.. they can even have a sex change operation...they can even sue the system for being harsh not looking after them... omg....

can a child do that?????...have we seen abused or deprived children.. I am sure we all have  usually when its all too late..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Aussie on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:36pm

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


Your son (who ran away and is alive) is a classic example of why the Cops do not immediately react as parents would expect when their child 'runs away.'

I doubt that there would be a parent (or two or so) here whose young post ten year old did not threaten to or actually run away for a night....not far.  I know I threatened as an idiot, and when shown the door......thought better of it.

My eldest step daughter regularly did a bolt when she was a 12/13 year old idiot...to three houses down the street....and the neighbour always rang to confirm she was there.

Took the wind right out of her sails, that did.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:42pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:23pm:
I just hope that if there is another dirty deed here, Bobby gets his wish... sometimes I am sorely tried by some people and their actions.



well no that would be too easy...jail for life meaning life...the main jail not protected let them be  with the big brave arseholes they are when dealing with kids........

I am so over the protections these people get....

if we dont make the penalties harder then there isnt much to stop these types is there??>....

look at Kerobokan .. not many return do they??...

yet we almost make it look like a holiday camp...and some treat it like a revolving door.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:50pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


Your son (who ran away and is alive) is a classic example of why the Cops do not immediately react as parents would expect when their child 'runs away.'

I doubt that there would be a parent (or two or so) here whose young post ten year old did not threaten to or actually run away for a night....not far.  I know I threatened as an idiot, and when shown the door......thought better of it.

My eldest step daughter regularly did a bolt when she was a 12/13 year old idiot...to three houses down the street....and the neighbour always rang to confirm she was there.

Took the wind right out of her sails, that did.



I DONT CARE .... its the job of adults to CARE ABOUT KIDS....kids think its a joke they havent a clue about the dangers WE ADULTS are meant to have that the ABILITY to see DANGER...

when my son was doing it.. times were different...we never even reported him...

but to me if a parent reports the child missing they are doing so because they are concerned... yet to have the police ignore them must be shattering...

did you report your daughter???..no you didnt... theres the difference.. if I went to a police station I would want ACTION>..NOW............ not 6 days from now...

stop making allowances... we need action BE ANGRY stand up and say our kids are worth it...

so they look for a kid whos hiding out at their mates.. so bloody what...

sooner or later that kid will grow up and realise how stupid they were in the mean time this one is DEAD.... because we havent the money... cant be bothered... ok shes done it before do forget it???...

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Aussie on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:23pm
As usual cods, you post is a mad woman's breakfast, but I'll have a go.


Quote:
stop making allowances... we need action BE ANGRY stand up and say our kids are worth it...


Get as angry as you like....go blue in the face even after holding your breath......Cops deal with this crap every day of every week, and if the Nation went on alert every time some dumb arse kid idiot went missing for a few hours, you'd need to spend many more dollars on resources.....and that means money coming directly out of your pocket, cods.  Police do not exist cost free.


Quote:
so they look for a kid whos hiding out at their mates.. so bloody what...

sooner or later that kid will grow up and realise how stupid they were in the mean time this one is DEAD.... because we havent the money... cant be bothered... ok shes done it before do forget it???...


Maybe that's a lesson kids ought be taught at Home and at School.  That is ~  "Kid, every time you call wolf means that when a kid is in real danger, maybe even you, kid.....no-one will bother."

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Aussie on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:30pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:23pm:
As usual cods, you post is a mad woman's breakfast, but I'll have a go.


Quote:
stop making allowances... we need action BE ANGRY stand up and say our kids are worth it...


Get as angry as you like....go blue in the face even after holding your breath......Cops deal with this crap every day of every week, and if the Nation went on alert every time some dumb arse kid idiot went missing for a few hours, you'd need to spend many more dollars on resources.....and that means money coming directly out of your pocket, cods.  Police do not exist cost free.

[quote]so they look for a kid whos hiding out at their mates.. so bloody what...

sooner or later that kid will grow up and realise how stupid they were in the mean time this one is DEAD.... because we havent the money... cant be bothered... ok shes done it before do forget it???...


Maybe that's a lesson kids ought be taught at Home and at School.  That is ~  "Kid, every time you call wolf means that when a kid is in real danger, maybe even you, kid.....no-one will bother."[/quote]

In fact, cods.....that'd be a message I'd happily support Mum and Dad Morecomb (sp) giving to kids when they get all keen for more donations and make speeches at schools.

"Don't cry wolf, kid."

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:30pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:23pm:
As usual cods, you post is a mad woman's breakfast, but I'll have a go.


Quote:
stop making allowances... we need action BE ANGRY stand up and say our kids are worth it...


Get as angry as you like....go blue in the face even after holding your breath......Cops deal with this crap every day of every week, and if the Nation went on alert every time some dumb arse kid idiot went missing for a few hours, you'd need to spend many more dollars on resources.....and that means money coming directly out of your pocket, cods.  Police do not exist cost free.

[quote]so they look for a kid whos hiding out at their mates.. so bloody what...

sooner or later that kid will grow up and realise how stupid they were in the mean time this one is DEAD.... because we havent the money... cant be bothered... ok shes done it before do forget it???...


Maybe that's a lesson kids ought be taught at Home and at School.  That is ~  "Kid, every time you call wolf means that when a kid is in real danger, maybe even you, kid.....no-one will bother."[/quote]


dont bother aussie I have had enough of your deflections and stooopid answers if thats what they are.. mostly nasty crap about cods... for one day... you dont seem to be able to say anything without being abusive...

dont answer me aussie you have nothing to say  I want to read...go and wallow in relationships where you can control every post...and be as ignorant as you please..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:26pm
Don't be angry, cods - wait for the official reports.

Intro to Journalism first lesson is that every story is posed for a specific point of view - the one that generates most sales.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:37pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:26pm:
Don't be angry, cods - wait for the official reports.

Intro to Journalism first lesson is that every story is posed for a specific point of view - the one that generates most sales.


Yep even if they are made up, so true.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:46pm
At least with regard to journalism you are correct.... anything else you need evidence to show, but you also need to be putting some literature out there to show first - and that is not easy.

You should try it some time - He Man - Fearless Writer Hunter.... kinda sings...

Might fit well in amongst the thousands of genuine writers trying to get something out there....

Just look at the number of online books here, for example, and not a scammer among them,  just people trying to get published and noticed, and maybe even provide a little entertainment or even enlightenment:-

http://www.amazon.com.au/

You'd fit right in, if you ever told your story........ how you hunted down all those online book scammers....

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
At least with regard to journalism you are correct.... anything else you need evidence to show, but you also need to be putting some literature out there to show first - and that is not easy.

You should try it some time - He Man - Fearless Writer Hunter.... kinda sings...

Might fit well in amongst the thousands of genuine writers trying to get something out there....

Just look at the number of online books here, for example, and not a scammer among them,  just people trying to get published and noticed, and maybe even provide a little entertainment or even enlightenment:-

http://www.amazon.com.au/

You'd fit right in, if you ever told your story........ how you hunted down all those online book scammers....


Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.


I can take it up with you, have you ever been in the ASIO building in Canberra or the old building K at Russell Offices? 

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:17pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.


I can take it up with you, have you ever been in the ASIO building in Canberra or the old building K at Russell Offices? 


Have you read my book?  Then come back when you have what I've written in front of you. I'll make it easy for you - I said that I'd been asked in for interviews with ASIO, the AFP and some other government bodies - that's all you get.

I have zero intention of justifying to googlers what they think they know, especially when they are trying to make up things I never said in my books or elsewhere. All these phantom James Bonds out there who imagine they know it all - they know nothing and make it up out of thin air.

Facts first - then we'll talk.  Or go join He Man on the rubbish pile.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:18pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.


If you never alluded to it being secret why blot the name out that was plastered all over wiki pedia from the article you plagiarized. :D

I never PMed you to buddy up at all feel free to post all my PM's to you fool. I have nothing to hide. I stopped PMing you about the 4th day when you started the BS on PM with me. Too bad your social engineering of me never worked eh clown.

I'd like to know why you lie so much actually. Well I do know, you are a scammer. I know exactly how they work. You clearly don't. You should be more careful when you bullshit on public forums.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:21pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.


I can take it up with you, have you ever been in the ASIO building in Canberra or the old building K at Russell Offices? 


He wont take it up as he is a bullshit artist you watch.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:21pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:17pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.


I can take it up with you, have you ever been in the ASIO building in Canberra or the old building K at Russell Offices? 


Have you read my book?  Then come back when you have what I've written in front of you.

I have zero intention of justifying to googlers what they think they know, especially when they are trying to make up things I never said in my books or elsewhere.

Facts first - then we'll talk.  Or go join He man on the rubbish pile.


No I have not read your book, but I will be able to tell if you have ever been in the ASIO building or building K.  You up for some questions?  Easy one to start with, what is building K and what is on the ground floor? 

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:22pm
"a secret clan in NASA" - right here on this page.

YOUR words.  Owned again, troll.  You are a liar and a fantasist.

Now - have you anything of value to say on the subject of this thread?

I thought not.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:23pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:17pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:56pm:
Yep ones that can't prove the tales they tell and peddle it as truth and plagiarize wikipedia to try and make out they have a secret clan in NASA ;D yep there are lots of scammers out there alright alluding to asio and afp to peddle their wares..


You really are delusional - I never mentioned any secret clan - just a clan member well known in my family.  You also know not one thing about ASIO and AFP apart from what you've googled, and that is only their official line in recruitment etc - and my personal interaction is plain in my book, which you've never read.

Why do you have such a need to lie constantly?  You even said I tried to PM you - YOU PM'd me trying to buddy up, then started your insane obsession against me, for which the only reason is that you are insane.

Try sticking to the subject matter, and stop trolling.  You might learn something.


I can take it up with you, have you ever been in the ASIO building in Canberra or the old building K at Russell Offices? 


Have you read my book?  Then come back when you have what I've written in front of you. I'll make it easy for you - I said that I'd been asked in for interviews with ASIO, the AFP and some other government bodies - that's all you get.

I have zero intention of justifying to googlers what they think they know, especially when they are trying to make up things I never said in my books or elsewhere. All these phantom James Bonds out there who imagine they know it all - they know nothing and make it up out of thin air.

Facts first - then we'll talk.  Or go join He Man on the rubbish pile.


In other words let the grubby little scammer get his hands on your money.

Clown.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:24pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
"a secret clan in NASA" - right here on this page.

YOUR words.  Owned again, troll.  You are a liar and a fantasist.

Now - have you anything of value to say on the subject of this thread?

I thought not.


Read my response dipstick are you thick ?

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:25pm
For a proven liar you are doing very badly... now go take your pills...

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:26pm

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
"a secret clan in NASA" - right here on this page.

YOUR words.  Owned again, troll.  You are a liar and a fantasist.

Now - have you anything of value to say on the subject of this thread?

I thought not.


Read my response dipstick are you thick ?


Not me - I owned you... and I do not discuss anything I have not written about..... sorry Secret Wars.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:28pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:25pm:
For a proven liar you are doing very badly... now go take your pills...


You haven't proven me a liar yet please do I am asking you to do that.

I want to be proven a liar .  . . :D :D


Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:28pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:26pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
"a secret clan in NASA" - right here on this page.

YOUR words.  Owned again, troll.  You are a liar and a fantasist.

Now - have you anything of value to say on the subject of this thread?

I thought not.


Read my response dipstick are you thick ?


Not me - I owned you... and I do not discuss anything I have not written about..... sorry Secret Wars.



;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:33pm

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:25pm:
For a proven liar you are doing very badly... now go take your pills...


You haven't proven me a liar yet please do I am asking you to do that.

I want to be proven a liar .  . . :D :D


You said I referred to a secret clan within NASA - never said any such thing - those were your words, same as quite a few other things you've said - not mine at all.

Owned again, liar.

I've posted link to the NASA clan connection elsewhere and in the past here.... never said anything about it being secret.  It's just a clan thing - and we are proud of our high achievers.

Who else would you like to try to claim I'm not related to?

Doug Walters?  Sir Garfield Barwick? All true... now let me hear your comeback with nothing again.....

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:35pm
I just keep owning you because you have nothing but nasty troll comments to respond with.


Good night!  You've sidetracked this thread enough and I'm sure there will be repercussions later.  I did ask you to comment on the thread.... oh, well.  Not my problem.......

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:36pm
I am amazed this guy has been going off for almost a month now and doesn't even realize how silly he looks. Then there is the clandestine approach he takes on PM to peddle the wares that is just a pdf file he wrote. My goodness. ::)

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:38pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:35pm:
I just keep owning you because you have nothing but nasty troll comments to respond with.


Good night!  You've sidetracked this thread enough and I'm sure there will be repercussions later.  I did ask you to comment on the thread.... oh, well.  Not my problem.......


Actually you did not me, I fail to see how I was pwned when someone else asked you a simple question you could not answer as well just like mine. Its about time you took a bex and went and had a good sleep after you read some more comic books. Pwned again ::)

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:39pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:26pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:22pm:
"a secret clan in NASA" - right here on this page.

YOUR words.  Owned again, troll.  You are a liar and a fantasist.

Now - have you anything of value to say on the subject of this thread?

I thought not.


Read my response dipstick are you thick ?


Not me - I owned you... and I do not discuss anything I have not written about..... sorry Secret Wars.


ok, i will try another tack, on the ground floor of K, is there a canteen? 

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:39pm
This will be interesting I think he has done a runner...

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Amadd on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:46pm

Quote:
as Ms Johnston says these kids are being watched it isnt rocket science...these predators can smell them a smell them a mile away.... why cant we do more to protect out kids... why cant we make the penalty for doing them harm twice as much as any other penalty... I am all for throwing away the key... like we did with Milat. 

some people should never mix in society they abuse everything we stand for..


Really, I don't think that increasing penalties would make a lick of difference. These predators are sick vermin and they need to be eradicated.
If there is a tiger snake in your back yard, the correct thing to do IMO is to kill it, especially if there are children present or in the vicinity. 

If I were to be asked whether I could actually pull the trigger on these predators myself, then I would answer yes.
If I were to be asked whether I could pull the trigger due to my government's instruction against somebody with whom I have no quarrel, then I would answer no.

Of course, castration is also an option that I think should be a viable method of reducing or eradicating risks to society.
It's no secret that males are by far the most likely perpetrators of these types of crimes, and without their goulies, the crimes would not happen.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:46pm
He is trying to google the canteen ;D .

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:53pm

He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:46pm:
He is trying to google the canteen ;D .


That's cool, he might be able to, it is not a secret,  but I have plenty of other questions, everyday stuff that doesn't get onto Google.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:58pm
He wont be back, if he does he won't answer a damn thing. If there is one thing I loath its bullshit artists like him that take advantage of people even if it is for only $3 bucks a pop.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:29am
thank you HE MAN and GRAPPLER for ruining another thread

why you dont start your own hate thread I dont know!.. you have done this to so many threads its becoming the norm...immature childish behavior..

your both  pathetic

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:38am

He Man is a troll.

Grappler is a long time, respected poster.

When will He Man be banned forever?

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Gnads on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:45am
Steady up Cods

Grappler was ambushed in here by a trolling Sheman & his ASIO side kick Secret wars.

The Grap was actually participating in the context of this thread.

Now re: Tialeigh Palmer - there are comments about what her parents have said.....

I believe she was in foster care?

So are the "parents" comments from her foster parents or her real parents?

I believe 6 days before a Police alert goes out is too long.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 7:29am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:38am:
He Man is a troll.

Grappler is a long time, respected poster.

When will He Man be banned forever?




can you really see any difference in this pair????>. it goes on and on....a bit like me and aussie..


aussie has now added my last post to him to his ABUSE thread in relationships....I am not sure if I should laugh or cry.

its hard to tell who is the most childish around the place....

I would have hoped someone like grap would rise above a troll... instead they come down to their level...not good.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 7:32am

Gnads wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:45am:
Steady up Cods

Grappler was ambushed in here by a trolling Sheman & his ASIO side kick Secret wars.

The Grap was actually participating in the context of this thread.

Now re: Tialeigh Palmer - there are comments about what her parents have said.....

I believe she was in foster care?

So are the "parents" comments from her foster parents or her real parents?

I believe 6 days before a Police alert goes out is too long.



I think her real parents....I am sure this child had many problems.....but thats not the point I am making.. what I would like to see is immediate attention to anything that concerns a childs welfare...somehow this child was put in the too hard basket...if they new the police or whoever would right behind them whenever maybe some would get the message....they run away for a reason... not that we understand it but they do ....they just do not understand the danger....

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 7:37am

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:23pm:
As usual cods, you post is a mad woman's breakfast, but I'll have a go.


Quote:
stop making allowances... we need action BE ANGRY stand up and say our kids are worth it...


Get as angry as you like....go blue in the face even after holding your breath......Cops deal with this crap every day of every week, and if the Nation went on alert every time some dumb arse kid idiot went missing for a few hours, you'd need to spend many more dollars on resources.....and that means money coming directly out of your pocket, cods.  Police do not exist cost free.

[quote]so they look for a kid whos hiding out at their mates.. so bloody what...

sooner or later that kid will grow up and realise how stupid they were in the mean time this one is DEAD.... because we havent the money... cant be bothered... ok shes done it before do forget it???...


Maybe that's a lesson kids ought be taught at Home and at School.  That is ~  "Kid, every time you call wolf means that when a kid is in real danger, maybe even you, kid.....no-one will bother."



dont bother aussie I have had enough of your deflections and stooopid answers if thats what they are.. mostly nasty crap about cods... for one day... you dont seem to be able to say anything without being abusive...

dont answer me aussie you have nothing to say  I want to read...go and wallow in relationships where you can control every post...and be as ignorant as you please.. [/quote]




this is the post that has upset aussie.....he calls it abuse!!!......

check the highlights..

not abuse of course...

and his answers are always full of spit and aggression ..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by mariacostel on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:10am

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


As hard as it is to accept, police time is pressured. A girl with a record of running away is always going to be handled slower. It's not right. It's not fair, but it is what is and will in fact, remain.

A point not mentioned is that it appears she was murdered not long after she disappeared thereby making the delay of no consequence anyhow.

It is a deeply sad thing.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:27am

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 7:29am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:38am:
He Man is a troll.

Grappler is a long time, respected poster.

When will He Man be banned forever?




can you really see any difference in this pair????>. it goes on and on....a bit like me and aussie..


aussie has now added my last post to him to his ABUSE thread in relationships....I am not sure if I should laugh or cry.

its hard to tell who is the most childish around the place....

I would have hoped someone like grap would rise above a troll... instead they come down to their level...not good.


Clearly I was wrong about you , you are clearly a troll yourself. You sit here crapping on about me being a troll along with dame idiot.

Grap is a scammer I have proven that and you fools soak it up like the simpletons you are. How sad it is when you call a troll who has been here a long time a respected poster. Only an idiot would do that. Thats all I have to say to you trolls. I hope you pony up the bucks for the scammer I couldn't care less.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:43am
Stop fantasising.  You've proven nothing and are nothing but a ranting troll.  Now get with the subject or get off.  Secret Wars was offered the chance to PM me for as much as I'm prepared to say - he did not - but who would respond to anyone with a name like 'Secret Wars'?

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:00am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:43am:
Stop fantasising.  You've proven nothing and are nothing but a ranting troll.  Now get with the subject or get off.


Take your own advice troll, you have posted enough bullshit in this thread to last a year.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by He Man on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:06am
Back on topic : -


cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
[urlhttp://www.news.com.au/national/crime/queensland-police-investigate-suspected-murder-of-schoolgirl-tiahleigh-palmer/story-fns0kb1g-1227601302888][/url]

IT was fishermen who found her. The body of 12-year-old Tiahleigh Palmer was badly decomposed and confirmed the worst fears of her family.
Until the grim discovery of the little girl’s body on the banks of a Gold Coast river, police wondered if she had just run away from home. After all, Tiahleigh had done it before. But this time her family knew something was very wrong.
Her mother had scoured the streets, a Facebook page was setup calling for sightings and her grandmother called police and told them: “Do you want another Daniel Morcombe?”
With no word from Tia and no clue as to where she could be, the family hoped she could be hiding out somewhere, that she would be found and it would all be over.
But the discovery of her body last Thursday, on a remote stretch of the Pimpama River in northern Gold Coast ended that hope, and now a team of 50 detectives is working on what is being treated as a homicide inquiry.



this is what I mean about letting our kids down.....

some how this child was ignored because  she had run away in the past.... something a terrible lot of kids do my own son was one of them... grrrrr... another story...

I hate it when parents are ignored they do have hidden instincts its time we believed them no one will know if an instant search would have saved this child... but at least the family wouldnt be left wondering like they are now...

we cant have this attitude... a child comes to the attention  of DOCS then it stays there even until they reach 15 I dont care how much it costs....we have to do MORE...... does anyone else try to imagine the last moments of these terrified kids... I do....I cant help myself..


Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:07am
Nothing new today that I can see on the news.  Still waiting on official reports.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:03pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:10am:

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


As hard as it is to accept, police time is pressured. A girl with a record of running away is always going to be handled slower. It's not right. It's not fair, but it is what is and will in fact, remain.

A point not mentioned is that it appears she was murdered not long after she disappeared thereby making the delay of no consequence anyhow.

It is a deeply sad thing.


I dont think as a parent you would feel better do you????...

my point it.. we should not be concerned with the cost when it comes to our children.....I am sorry..

but we send god knows how many cops out to chase kids who steal cars....how much does that cost us.... why not let the insurance companies do that...we manage to find the cops and the money for that dont we???..

yet a child who is definitely in need of extra care is ignored.. because oh thats right it means MONEY and for what??...

I am sorry I know exactly what you are saying and I am saying its all wrong...the first thing parents do is check their friends.. then probably the school...and amusement arcades .. they dont usually go running to the police in the first 5 minutes...    I just thionk we can do better and its the same with DOCS it all comes down to MONEY....

yet we dont stop sending pollies overseas on so called educational trips... >:( >:( if we can find the money for them..

then we can for our kids..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:21pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:07am:
Nothing new today that I can see on the news.  Still waiting on official reports.



here is something good thats come out of evil grap... this in todays news..



the little girl in the suitcase..


Meanwhile, South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens has told an Adelaide radio station the high profile search for Khandalyce’s identity led directly to police intervention in four at-risk children’s lives.
Mr Stevens told ABC891 police uncovered cases where children were “in circumstances of concern” and authorities were able to take action.
“We’ve had three or four kids that we’ve been able to intervene in terms of their current circumstances because of the fact that we’ve been looking for this one individual child, so there’s offshoots of this investigation that have proved to be of benefit as well,” he said.
“We’ve been able to make sure that the right measures were put in place to ensure the safety of those children as well.”



Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by mariacostel on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:23pm

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:10am:

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


As hard as it is to accept, police time is pressured. A girl with a record of running away is always going to be handled slower. It's not right. It's not fair, but it is what is and will in fact, remain.

A point not mentioned is that it appears she was murdered not long after she disappeared thereby making the delay of no consequence anyhow.

It is a deeply sad thing.


I dont think as a parent you would feel better do you????...

my point it.. we should not be concerned with the cost when it comes to our children.....I am sorry..

but we send god knows how many cops out to chase kids who steal cars....how much does that cost us.... why not let the insurance companies do that...we manage to find the cops and the money for that dont we???..

yet a child who is definitely in need of extra care is ignored.. because oh thats right it means MONEY and for what??...

I am sorry I know exactly what you are saying and I am saying its all wrong...the first thing parents do is check their friends.. then probably the school...and amusement arcades .. they dont usually go running to the police in the first 5 minutes...    I just thionk we can do better and its the same with DOCS it all comes down to MONEY....

yet we dont stop sending pollies overseas on so called educational trips... >:( >:( if we can find the money for them..

then we can for our kids..


I am sure the parents will feel terrible no matter what. The point was that even if the police had searched for here an hour later, she was probably already dead. It is sad but true that police searches for abducted kids usually end up with finding a body, no matter how fast or effective they are. I don't even recall the last time an abducted child was rescued from a predator unharmed.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:36pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:10am:

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


As hard as it is to accept, police time is pressured. A girl with a record of running away is always going to be handled slower. It's not right. It's not fair, but it is what is and will in fact, remain.

A point not mentioned is that it appears she was murdered not long after she disappeared thereby making the delay of no consequence anyhow.

It is a deeply sad thing.


I dont think as a parent you would feel better do you????...

my point it.. we should not be concerned with the cost when it comes to our children.....I am sorry..

but we send god knows how many cops out to chase kids who steal cars....how much does that cost us.... why not let the insurance companies do that...we manage to find the cops and the money for that dont we???..

yet a child who is definitely in need of extra care is ignored.. because oh thats right it means MONEY and for what??...

I am sorry I know exactly what you are saying and I am saying its all wrong...the first thing parents do is check their friends.. then probably the school...and amusement arcades .. they dont usually go running to the police in the first 5 minutes...    I just thionk we can do better and its the same with DOCS it all comes down to MONEY....

yet we dont stop sending pollies overseas on so called educational trips... >:( >:( if we can find the money for them..

then we can for our kids..


I am sure the parents will feel terrible no matter what. The point was that even if the police had searched for here an hour later, she was probably already dead. It is sad but true that police searches for abducted kids usually end up with finding a body, no matter how fast or effective they are. I don't even recall the last time an abducted child was rescued from a predator unharmed.



yes I appreciate all that....little William is still missing.... but they hav ent stopped looking.....what I am saying is all children should have the same attention...

it isnt good enough to say this child has run away before.. so file it over there while I fine someone for speeding...if the child is almost certainly  dead does it mean oh well lets slack off.. ????   I am sorry NO IT DOESNT.....the point for these parents is... they will never know if she could have been found alive...thats whats so bad too many" if only" we can and should do better I dont care if its almost a lost cause that isnt the point......a ,lot of children disappear ask those who work Kings Cross.. yet somehow the bastards of the world manage to find them...

why cant the cops be first for once...just for a few extra dollars...it seems to me sometimes its more important we spend millions on Olympic Games.. and showing off..without so much as a quibble  than we do about our pride and joy our kids..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:42pm

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:07am:
Nothing new today that I can see on the news.  Still waiting on official reports.



here is something good thats come out of evil grap... this in todays news..



the little girl in the suitcase..


Meanwhile, South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens has told an Adelaide radio station the high profile search for Khandalyce’s identity led directly to police intervention in four at-risk children’s lives.
Mr Stevens told ABC891 police uncovered cases where children were “in circumstances of concern” and authorities were able to take action.
“We’ve had three or four kids that we’ve been able to intervene in terms of their current circumstances because of the fact that we’ve been looking for this one individual child, so there’s offshoots of this investigation that have proved to be of benefit as well,” he said.
“We’ve been able to make sure that the right measures were put in place to ensure the safety of those children as well.”


At least that's something, cods.  Definitely life without any possibility for these predator scum. Sad that it takes deaths to get things going, but with limited resources, governments can't handle everything, so perhaps it's up to the community more.  Another hazardous path to follow.

Unfortunately we live in a society in which everyone is, often by government decree, afraid to look outside their own front door.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by mariacostel on Nov 10th, 2015 at 3:36pm

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:10am:

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


As hard as it is to accept, police time is pressured. A girl with a record of running away is always going to be handled slower. It's not right. It's not fair, but it is what is and will in fact, remain.

A point not mentioned is that it appears she was murdered not long after she disappeared thereby making the delay of no consequence anyhow.

It is a deeply sad thing.


I dont think as a parent you would feel better do you????...

my point it.. we should not be concerned with the cost when it comes to our children.....I am sorry..

but we send god knows how many cops out to chase kids who steal cars....how much does that cost us.... why not let the insurance companies do that...we manage to find the cops and the money for that dont we???..

yet a child who is definitely in need of extra care is ignored.. because oh thats right it means MONEY and for what??...

I am sorry I know exactly what you are saying and I am saying its all wrong...the first thing parents do is check their friends.. then probably the school...and amusement arcades .. they dont usually go running to the police in the first 5 minutes...    I just thionk we can do better and its the same with DOCS it all comes down to MONEY....

yet we dont stop sending pollies overseas on so called educational trips... >:( >:( if we can find the money for them..

then we can for our kids..


I am sure the parents will feel terrible no matter what. The point was that even if the police had searched for here an hour later, she was probably already dead. It is sad but true that police searches for abducted kids usually end up with finding a body, no matter how fast or effective they are. I don't even recall the last time an abducted child was rescued from a predator unharmed.



yes I appreciate all that....little William is still missing.... but they hav ent stopped looking.....what I am saying is all children should have the same attention...

it isnt good enough to say this child has run away before.. so file it over there while I fine someone for speeding...if the child is almost certainly  dead does it mean oh well lets slack off.. ????   I am sorry NO IT DOESNT.....the point for these parents is... they will never know if she could have been found alive...thats whats so bad too many" if only" we can and should do better I dont care if its almost a lost cause that isnt the point......a ,lot of children disappear ask those who work Kings Cross.. yet somehow the bastards of the world manage to find them...

why cant the cops be first for once...just for a few extra dollars...it seems to me sometimes its more important we spend millions on Olympic Games.. and showing off..without so much as a quibble  than we do about our pride and joy our kids..


it should be pretty obvious that police have not the foggiest idea about Williams wherebouts or fate. They are casting the net far and wide and occasionally catching someone who may have, possibly, perhaps, maybe something to do with it... or not.

They have no clue.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 4:27pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 3:36pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:10am:

cods wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:57pm:
who said she was ignored?




the parents....she was a run away so they [police]  didnt bother too much ...

read it..


As hard as it is to accept, police time is pressured. A girl with a record of running away is always going to be handled slower. It's not right. It's not fair, but it is what is and will in fact, remain.

A point not mentioned is that it appears she was murdered not long after she disappeared thereby making the delay of no consequence anyhow.

It is a deeply sad thing.


I dont think as a parent you would feel better do you????...

my point it.. we should not be concerned with the cost when it comes to our children.....I am sorry..

but we send god knows how many cops out to chase kids who steal cars....how much does that cost us.... why not let the insurance companies do that...we manage to find the cops and the money for that dont we???..

yet a child who is definitely in need of extra care is ignored.. because oh thats right it means MONEY and for what??...

I am sorry I know exactly what you are saying and I am saying its all wrong...the first thing parents do is check their friends.. then probably the school...and amusement arcades .. they dont usually go running to the police in the first 5 minutes...    I just thionk we can do better and its the same with DOCS it all comes down to MONEY....

yet we dont stop sending pollies overseas on so called educational trips... >:( >:( if we can find the money for them..

then we can for our kids..


I am sure the parents will feel terrible no matter what. The point was that even if the police had searched for here an hour later, she was probably already dead. It is sad but true that police searches for abducted kids usually end up with finding a body, no matter how fast or effective they are. I don't even recall the last time an abducted child was rescued from a predator unharmed.



yes I appreciate all that....little William is still missing.... but they hav ent stopped looking.....what I am saying is all children should have the same attention...

it isnt good enough to say this child has run away before.. so file it over there while I fine someone for speeding...if the child is almost certainly  dead does it mean oh well lets slack off.. ????   I am sorry NO IT DOESNT.....the point for these parents is... they will never know if she could have been found alive...thats whats so bad too many" if only" we can and should do better I dont care if its almost a lost cause that isnt the point......a ,lot of children disappear ask those who work Kings Cross.. yet somehow the bastards of the world manage to find them...

why cant the cops be first for once...just for a few extra dollars...it seems to me sometimes its more important we spend millions on Olympic Games.. and showing off..without so much as a quibble  than we do about our pride and joy our kids..


it should be pretty obvious that police have not the foggiest idea about Williams wherebouts or fate. They are casting the net far and wide and occasionally catching someone who may have, possibly, perhaps, maybe something to do with it... or not.

They have no clue.



that is of course so true.. at least it appears to be however I do hope you dont want them to stop looking as SOMEONE knows something dont they.. and its not always easy to keep a secret which then means someone else knows it.. it is one of the most evil of crimes...an d I dont expect them to ever stop looking...

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 10th, 2015 at 4:30pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:42pm:

cods wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:07am:
Nothing new today that I can see on the news.  Still waiting on official reports.



here is something good thats come out of evil grap... this in todays news..



the little girl in the suitcase..


Meanwhile, South Australian Police Commissioner Grant Stevens has told an Adelaide radio station the high profile search for Khandalyce’s identity led directly to police intervention in four at-risk children’s lives.
Mr Stevens told ABC891 police uncovered cases where children were “in circumstances of concern” and authorities were able to take action.
“We’ve had three or four kids that we’ve been able to intervene in terms of their current circumstances because of the fact that we’ve been looking for this one individual child, so there’s offshoots of this investigation that have proved to be of benefit as well,” he said.
“We’ve been able to make sure that the right measures were put in place to ensure the safety of those children as well.”


At least that's something, cods.  Definitely life without any possibility for these predator scum. Sad that it takes deaths to get things going, but with limited resources, governments can't handle everything, so perhaps it's up to the community more.  Another hazardous path to follow.

Unfortunately we live in a society in which everyone is, often by government decree, afraid to look outside their own front door.



very true but I will never understand how the immediate family can not notice something going on...when it comes to a boy friend I would take an even closer look I am afraid...I dotn care what you say most mothers know if their daughter are not doing the right thing my their children..... bad attitude is always a good sign...changing boy friends another...its not healthy and I would dob them in.. sorry but I would. the children dont stand a chance..

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:39pm
For the Grappler.  I have not allied myself to anyone, I asked a simple question.  Your inability to answer speaks volumes. 

And don't PM me again, I have not responded to your PM, anything you want to say to me you can say in full view. 

What is it with this freaking forum and PM shenanigans? 

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:16pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:39pm:
For the Grappler.  I have not allied myself to anyone, I asked a simple question.  Your inability to answer speaks volumes. 

And don't PM me again, I have not responded to your PM, anything you want to say to me you can say in full view. 

What is it with this freaking forum and PM shenanigans? 


You were offered the chance to PM me - and were told what you would receive in advance.  Your choice.  I have no intention of playing games with the idiot He Man, so if you have no wish to continue this discussion - kindly do so.

You would be well advised to stay out of this insane nonsense, and BTW - your chosen name here does not inspire any confidence or trust.

Here is the text of my PM to you - for public viewing:-

" You may PM me personally and I will say what I have said in my e-book - nothing more.

We don't play that game here, and if you choose to ally yourself with He Man, that is your problem. "


I also don't play pissing games with people over what they think they know or think.  I know what I know, and nothing can change that.

I have no intention of offering to 'He Man' or his cronies so much as one look at the relevant content of my book.  They haven't earned the right.

Now kindly stay out of this psychopath's rantings or join the queue at the door.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:25pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:16pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:39pm:
For the Grappler.  I have not allied myself to anyone, I asked a simple question.  Your inability to answer speaks volumes. 

And don't PM me again, I have not responded to your PM, anything you want to say to me you can say in full view. 

What is it with this freaking forum and PM shenanigans? 


You were offered the chance to PM me - and were told what you would receive in advance.  Your choice.  I have no intention of playing games with the idiot He Man, so if you have no wish to continue this discussion - kindly do so.

You would be well advised to stay out of this insane nonsense, and BTW - your chosen name here does not inspire any confidence or trust.

Here is the text of my PM to you - for public viewing:-

" You may PM me personally and I will say what I have said in my e-book - nothing more.

We don't play that game here, and if you choose to ally yourself with He Man, that is your problem. "


I also don't play pissing games with people over what they think they know or think.  I know what I know, and nothing can change that.

I have no intention of offering to 'He Man' or his cronies so much as one look at the relevant content of my book.  They haven't earned the right.

Now kindly stay out of this psychopath's rantings or join the queue at the door.


No pissing game, a very simple question, is there a canteen on the ground floor? 

You have a 50:50 chance of guessing right.  Go on, have a guess.    8-)

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:28pm
You can read all I am prepared to discuss in my books.  I'm afraid you came in too late after weeks of that nutter's insane rantings, and I'm simply not prepared to say more..... love it or leave it, I have no obligation to you or anyone else online - and my open and honest approach has been blatantly abused here so that's it.

You accept what I say from my own personal knowledge and experience or you leave it, and have never once googled anything.

And I'm not going to discuss this all night with a bunch of wannabe's and psychopaths.

Oh - and you missed your one chance to chat with me privately by being prissy about PMs as if this somehow was some big conspiracy.  That kind of approach shows me you are not someone I would bother to talk with, especially online.


Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Secret Wars on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:40pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:28pm:
You can read all I am prepared to discuss in my books.  I'm afraid you came in too late after weeks of that nutter's insane rantings, and I'm simply not prepared to say more..... love it or leave it, I have no obligation to you or anyone else online - and my open and honest approach has been blatantly abused here so that's it.

You accept what I say from my own personal knowledge and experience or you leave it, and have never once googled anything.

And I'm not going to discuss this all night with a bunch of wannabe's and psychopaths.

Oh - and you missed your one chance to chat with me privately by being prissy about PMs as if this somehow was some big conspiracy.  That kind of approach shows me you are not someone I would bother to talk with, especially online.


After reading about the bullshit involved with PMs on this forum no thanks.  But are you trying to hint that youare able to tell me if there is a ground floor canteen via PM but you don't want to say if there is or not on forum? 

Serious?  That is the bullshit you are peddling? 

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:04pm

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:40pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:28pm:
You can read all I am prepared to discuss in my books.  I'm afraid you came in too late after weeks of that nutter's insane rantings, and I'm simply not prepared to say more..... love it or leave it, I have no obligation to you or anyone else online - and my open and honest approach has been blatantly abused here so that's it.

You accept what I say from my own personal knowledge and experience or you leave it, and have never once googled anything.

And I'm not going to discuss this all night with a bunch of wannabe's and psychopaths.

Oh - and you missed your one chance to chat with me privately by being prissy about PMs as if this somehow was some big conspiracy.  That kind of approach shows me you are not someone I would bother to talk with, especially online.


After reading about the bullshit involved with PMs on this forum no thanks.  But are you trying to hint that youare able to tell me if there is a ground floor canteen via PM but you don't want to say if there is or not on forum? 

Serious?  That is the bullshit you are peddling? 


What a weird response - bullshit about politicians - so people's views are bullshit and you know better?  You are not what you are purporting to be at all, but are another troll.

That sort of bullshit response and worse is what I've been putting up with for weeks now from that psychopath - and I am no longer prepared to discuss it.

You are advised to drop it and accept that you blew your chance.  I made no claims to anything to you - like Psycho Man YOU are the one making assertions, and you can think what you like and go your own way, but I've had enough of it.

Now I've told you I am no longer prepared to discuss anything related to my books with fools here, after the abuse I've received from Psycho Man and his insanities, and I am under no obligation to do so unless I choose - so go your own way and mind your own business.


AND:-  No amount of similar bullshit is ever going to make me change one thing that I've written - it is all truth - and you know what - I couldn't care less if you walked in the front door of ASIO to deliver a package or whatever the hell you may have done - you are not part of that organisation and never will be.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:06pm
Now back on the subject matter here of the girl missing then found dead - that psychopath and you have ruined that strand for all.

Now leave it alone and stick with the subject matter.

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by Gnads on Nov 11th, 2015 at 6:58am

Secret Wars wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:40pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 10:28pm:
You can read all I am prepared to discuss in my books.  I'm afraid you came in too late after weeks of that nutter's insane rantings, and I'm simply not prepared to say more..... love it or leave it, I have no obligation to you or anyone else online - and my open and honest approach has been blatantly abused here so that's it.

You accept what I say from my own personal knowledge and experience or you leave it, and have never once googled anything.

And I'm not going to discuss this all night with a bunch of wannabe's and psychopaths.

Oh - and you missed your one chance to chat with me privately by being prissy about PMs as if this somehow was some big conspiracy.  That kind of approach shows me you are not someone I would bother to talk with, especially online.


After reading about the bullshit involved with PMs on this forum no thanks.  But are you trying to hint that youare able to tell me if there is a ground floor canteen via PM but you don't want to say if there is or not on forum? 

Serious?  That is the bullshit you are peddling? 



I suggest you go to the canteen & have a cup of coffee & a think about just how like SheMan you are...

If coffee doesn't do it then try a large mug of STHU

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 7:29am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:06pm:
Now back on the subject matter here of the girl missing then found dead - that psychopath and you have ruined that strand for all.

Now leave it alone and stick with the subject matter.




its a struggle isnt it???>...you and I seem to attract the same type of person  doesnt matter what you say they come back with the same things they are right you..me and you thats is .... are always wrong...

they do not have the ability to see things from the other persons perspective they cannot get past their own... ::) ::)...

when you have a leach that latches on to just one tiny piece of your thoughts it gets very frustrating...

what I think we should try... is you and I for instance on this thread just try and keep it pon track.. ignore those who want to destroy it...


today the police are searching the waterways where she was found...its all a bit strange to me they are saying we may never know how she was killed.....they can tell that from someone who died 2000 years ago....why would this child be any different???>..anyway a few excuses coming down maybe abit of guilt on behalf of the police in action who knows.....

Title: Re: another one falls through the cracks.
Post by The Grappler on Nov 11th, 2015 at 7:44am

cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 7:29am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 11:06pm:
Now back on the subject matter here of the girl missing then found dead - that psychopath and you have ruined that strand for all.

Now leave it alone and stick with the subject matter.




its a struggle isnt it???>...you and I seem to attract the same type of person  doesnt matter what you say they come back with the same things they are right you..me and you thats is .... are always wrong...

they do not have the ability to see things from the other persons perspective they cannot get past their own... ::) ::)...

when you have a leach that latches on to just one tiny piece of your thoughts it gets very frustrating...

what I think we should try... is you and I for instance on this thread just try and keep it pon track.. ignore those who want to destroy it...


today the police are searching the waterways where she was found...its all a bit strange to me they are saying we may never know how she was killed.....they can tell that from someone who died 2000 years ago....why would this child be any different???>..anyway a few excuses coming down maybe abit of guilt on behalf of the police in action who knows.....


Don't want to clog things up any more about online ice addicts and their antics ....  yes - that does sound odd, but maybe they're playing it close to the chest to draw out a suspect when they finally get one and match story bits.  They want the right one.

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