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Title: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 8:00am
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/business/companies/grandmother-tries-to-spite-heirs-by-shredding-11-million-fortune-prosecutors-say/story-fnkjj31g-1227600080521
AN AUSTRIAN woman, 85, cut up almost a million euros (A$1.1million) into tiny pieces in an apparent attempt to spite her heirs, authorities said on Thursday. After the woman died in a retirement home, the 950,000 euros as well as savings accounts books were found shredded on her bed, prosecutors said Kurier reported however that the woman’s surviving family will have the last laugh, with Austria’s central bank (OeNB) saying it will replace all the cash. one can only presume the heirs didnt deserve the money in her mind anyway.........bugger....her wishes count for nothing.. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 11th, 2015 at 9:08am
She could have donated it to a worthy cause, then she would have been sure the family didn't get it.
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by bogarde73 on Nov 11th, 2015 at 11:29am
Or she could have washed it down with a bottle of Spumante and taken it with her.
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 12:00pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 9:08am:
no they fight it and some stranger a judge says hey its yours.... not sure what the purpose of writing a will is...just to give some greedy bloody solicitor money for old rope ..I have a friend whos 90 now well off one son who is very sick and could die before his mum.. two grandchildren and an ex daughter in law... who hate her... the other son died about 25years ago...and his family turned on my friend when she stopped handing out money....then they accused her of keeping and spending a few hundred thousand she had given the son many years ago...[ my friend didnt know what she was talking about]anyway they havent had any contact now for a few years....she has a great grand daughter shes never seen...but she knows these people will come out of the woodwork when she goes...... her solicitor told her it is bound to happen as long as she has something to leave.....at this stage of her life she still has a few beans left....but it isnt fair that her will is made out to the son she now lives with and has done for about 10 years..and people who have had more than a fair share out of her over the years could end up with even more...without her blessing.... she shouldnt have to lkeave it to charity just to stall off the greedy...well I dont think so anyway. maybe this lady was just making a point and making them work for it...lololol....she could have tossed it off the roof of a high building...hahaha |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 11th, 2015 at 12:58pm cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I reckon it is hilarious that a spiteful bitter old woman was thwarted in her last act of malice. The last laugh was on her, and always will be in the case of such people. As for your friend cods, what stops her given (formally...through a Deed of Gift) her son the money while she is alive. That solves the problem as the Estate will then be bare ~ no-one will fight for zero. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 11th, 2015 at 1:04pm Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 12:58pm:
She should. I wouldn't leave it another day if I was her. I would want to put my mind at ease if I was 90 years old, then she can die in peace, knowing her stuff is in order. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Agnes on Nov 11th, 2015 at 1:52pm Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 12:58pm:
I think it typical of your one track mind that you think she was bitter and it was her "last act of malice", you think all women are bitter and twisted because you don't like women. You don't know the woman or her family, they may have been neglectful and cruel ( why did this story reach the media, no doubt one of her "loving " family members 's) in which case you couldn't blame her one bit- But as Pansi said giving it charity would have been much better way to go. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:18pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 1:04pm:
she has she gave him over $600.000 but needs to live as well???... she pays a lot of TAX each year she has that much... there comes a time when you have the right to do with your money that which you choose not what you are driven too..... she is a lovely lovely lady... who has been treated very badly the living son has no children.. so her only family are estranged....but just to make it awkward they dont live all that far away from her...not that theres much chance of them meeting but you know how news travels..the grand daughter even rang her up and abused her over the phone because she wouldnt sign a legal document that would have been a lie... thats when she was told you will never see.. so and so....the baby and she never has... this is about 5 years ago...when my friend was waking up to how she was being manipulated and whenever she said NO out came the claws... she worries about losing her son and this mob if she goes first and he will be left to fight them off.... if we are going to give people the right to die..surely the right to leave their money to whom they choose should also be taken into account.. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:20pm Agnes wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 1:52pm:
well said agnes... those who are now going to get the benefit may have been atrocious who knows...unless they can prove she was away with the pixies.. its her money she can do what she likes with it.......until shes dead of course. >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:43pm cods wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:18pm:
cods....if she gives the son the money via Deed of Gift, (using Lawyers) then there are practical mechanisms available to her that would still allow (with the son's co-operation) her access to the funds whenever she needed it. It is simple, and it solves the problem you say she has. (Of course, part of the deal would include the son executing a Will leaving her his Estate should he go before she does.) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:49pm Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:43pm:
shes a proud lady like myself has been alone for a long time has always been independent until moving in with son and his missus she is old school and in my opinion entitled to do with her own money what she choose.. this is not estate money she and her husband had a business.. she worked as hard as he did.... I am saying this is what I think anyone should be ENTITLED TO DO.. we know all about the law and rules and so forth... but they will always outwit you... and when you are gone... thats it... I am just saying it isnt right.. you do not have to agree with me.... |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:54pm Quote:
And I am offering you/her a simple solution which meets all her needs and keeps the grubs at bay, but you are hell bent on ignoring it, just to continue stating the bleeding obvious. Be part of the solution cods, not part of the problem! |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:33pm Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:54pm:
--------------------- shaking head... :o :o AUSSIE I KNOW ALL THAT you are telling me nothing I dont know already dont you think a lady of her means has done all the enquiries..???? why do you treat everyone like they are stupid... there are all sorts of laws on gifting and duration....if she gifts the the money and dies the next day... it takes on a whole different accent... she also likes her independence even though they live in the same house ..which she has by receiving her own money into her bank account from stocks and shares....as well as cash in the bank...it isnt that sim ple.. and the govt will be there with bells on... I am not ignoring your advice I am just saying it isnt fool proof and why should she give her money over to her son and daughter in law????? ..... we dont know who will go first...personally I think her son is swinging the lead... but I say nothing.. she hands him over money all the time and he spends it.. on the pair of them they go overseas about 4 times a year...but hes all shes got and I can understand that but she still want her own money doing what its always done looking after her without her having to ask anyone or an swer to anyone....if she didnt have the greedy sneaks in the back ground life for her would be rosy... does that help explain things. all I am saying is people should be able to make a will and that be that unless hardship can be proved.. why should a strange judge be the one to dish your money out...the way he sees fit????? thats all I am saying.. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:41pm
Well, she can keep whingeing then, and the jackals will have their day when she is gone. She wants to eat the cake and still have it. She ought to shut up, or do the obvious. That she has chosen not to solve the problem so easily suggests to me she wants the drama, loves to bleat..poor me etc etc etc. I'm over these people who bitch about stuff they can so readily solve.
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 12th, 2015 at 7:31am She should transfer most of her money into her son's bank account today.....problem solved. It's her money, she is allowed to do it. Fixed in five minutes. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by aussie100percent on Nov 12th, 2015 at 7:49am Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:41pm:
LiKe whining about UBA ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:29am Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:41pm:
why dont you read the OP aussie this isnt a my firend thread its about some poor lady who couldnt leave her money to the people she chose too.... you turn turn everything I say into a get cods thread... she is not whingeing.. I am whingeing about the system if thats what you wish to call is.. I am just making a comment...not trying to save the world.. you are so rude I would rather you didnt try to offer help or advice because if someone doesnt take it you get even more insulting.........if thats possible. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:33am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 7:31am:
like aussie if only life was THAT SIMPLE this lady wouldnt have chopped all her paper money up..... pansi would you like to put all your money into your sons bank account.......... because you didnt want a nasty rellie dipping in after you leave??? well would you pansi?..... ::) ::) ::) I know i wouldnt my son would go through it like a hot knife through butter....lolol... and why should they pay TAX or even be penalised for money in the bank when it isnt theirs???.....dont forget everyone is being watched today... |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:40am cods wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:33am:
Because it will not be hers then. It will be the son's, you know the very son she wants to leave it all to in her Will. All she needs is to be authorised to draw on the account. So simple. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:49am Aussie wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:40am:
I know it all looks so simple.. what I am saying is.. WHY SHOULD SHE...WHY SHOULD ANYONE BE FORCED TO DO THAT...IF YOU WISH TO LEAVE SOMEONE OUT OF A WILL.......WHY SHOULDNT YOU BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT???.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:51am
You are allowed to do that, and others are allowed to do stuff as well.
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:54am Aussie wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:51am:
what the?? aussie I cant deal with you anymore its like driving nails into my brain... I have asked you not to help me anymore and I have to check out from you.....sorry we have nothing in common...you drive me mad and I presume I drive you mad... lets leave it at that.... comment on the topic for sure but dont direct anything at me.. we will get along fine that way. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Amadd on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:07am
I suppose that in the end it's a bit ironic that everyone is happy. The old dear goes to her grave thinking that she has thwarted the leeches (I'm assuming), and the heirs get their hands on her cash.
It's a bit sad that she wouldn't want to leave something significant to her heirs, but then again I know of a few people who think that their parent's money is already theirs. If the children don't genuinely want their parents to enjoy their money then they don't deserve it ..well, at least some of the money anyway ;D |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Agnes on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:31am Aussie wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 9:51am:
I don't think you are really married Aussie- no woman in her right mind would be able to live with you . Leave cods alone, because what you do is harrass and hound her- I will be reporting your crap from now on. You think you have constant free hit's on cods and that makes you a gutless abuser. I won't watch you get away with it anymore-. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:33am Amadd wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:07am:
I have also heard of children KILLING mum and dad because they wont pop off when they need money most... shame.... its what I call freedom of choice.. having the right to do with YOUR money as you see fit.... if its estate money different thing entirely... I heard of a farmer years ago that left one of 4 sons out of his will....and his comment was something like this.. I leave and the list went on to each son...[ he was wealthy in those days] and at the end he said something like... and I leave John $100 to have a drink on his old dad.. I consider he has had his share of the farm as over the years he has stolen cattle from his dear old dad and didnt think his dad noticed...I have calculated he has stolen .. such and such a number this would more than take care of what would have been his fair share [at my death]of my beloved farm... now the son didnt as far as I know take the will to court.....but today he could do so and probably win...because he could make all sorts of claims about his dead father... |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:36am Agnes wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:31am:
now now agnes he will start on you....at least he is leaving others alone whilst cods is around.... its my fault for engaging.. I know I know...I will learn....at least I dont use his forum anymore.. thats gotta be a start....its a shame because all the threads get taken over by two people disagreeing and I hate that |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Aussie on Nov 12th, 2015 at 11:24am Agnes wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:31am:
Feel free Agnes. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 12th, 2015 at 6:34pm
LOL watch it agnes you could appear in the ABUSE thread where just about everyone aussie has a run in with is making an appearance ... ;D ;D
goodness me aussie whatever do they do with FDs rules as from what I can see no one on the list has been banned????....... .so wheres andrei who is very hot on people who abuse???.... I was banned for daring to say "mum"..oh dear I do hope andrei doesnt see that... it is a quote! just sayin.. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Agnes on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:04pm
Oh dear cods, I might make my way into that stupid thread ? he can knock himself out for all I care, getting a life would be a really good idea Aussie!!!! ;D :D ;D
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:40am
I can't believe the rubbish posted in here.
What a revolting stalker troll you are Aussie. Get help....and fast. Oh and leave Cods alone you gutless wonder! |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:41am Agnes wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:31am:
It's taken you THIS LONG to understand this???? ::) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:45am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:41am:
No not really, I have known for a long time I think- you have been absent Lisa- or have you? ;) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:48am
Insane in the membrane AND slow eh?
Nothing changes with you. Not even your decade long online games. I pity you. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:51am aussie100percent wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 7:49am:
Ha! You're right...Aussie has in fact described himself. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:52am
You don't know me Lisa, and certainly not longer than a year- so try to speak about something you actually know for once and isn't it wonderful how you have accused everyone around here of having multi nicks and yet.... you have been so very busy of late.
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:57am Agnes wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:52am:
1. I do know you.....10 yrs of your online games have shown me a lot about you. 2. I have been extremely busy lately. Why? 2 teenagers and myself have been going through uni exams. 2 little ones have been sick with the flu. It's called real life. You should try it some time. Night Stupid. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by mothra on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:05am Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:57am:
Just how many people do you have 10 year long online histories with Lisa? Seems i can't turn around without you accusing someone else of playing online games with you for 10 years. Did you ever consider you're wasting your online time with all of these games you keep getting caught up in? Don't you get bored of it? |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Agnes on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:18am
Where has Lisa been, the last 2 weeks ?..Uni exams ? pfft rubbish, and now trotting out the same old crappola as usual.
He man mmm... just a thought. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by mothra on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:21am Agnes wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:18am:
I'm sure of it Agnes. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by bogarde73 on Nov 13th, 2015 at 6:47am
This started out as an innocent fun thread & look where it's got.
Women eh! ( tosses head) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by The Heartless Felon on Nov 13th, 2015 at 7:31am bogarde73 wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 6:47am:
Thinks, "Hmmm, might need that later.' Retrieves head... |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 13th, 2015 at 7:51am The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 7:31am:
ok guys..... this is sad really but sh!t happens.. the thread is was intended to be DEEP THOUGHT... all about not having your WILL changed by an anonymous judge who decides how your "will" will be executed..... NOT YOU.... a lady chopped all her cash up... so her miserable rellies wouldnt get it... but they will....because they bloody can... I just think a WILL should be the persons last word.. not a judges thats all... unless its estate money which is fair enoug.. but if its money earnt why shoudl a judge decide who gets it... and what the purpose of a WILL in that case...??? I thought it was a reasonable question...... instead it all got very personal ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Phemanderac on Nov 13th, 2015 at 7:53am
Wow, I never realised that chopping up money was the same as having a will...
We live and learn...iiiiiiiii we live at any rate |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:01am Phemanderac wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 7:53am:
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Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:15am
come on Mr Phem you have had time to think of a good smack response
was this lady making confetti or trying to send a message???.... I see as per usual when it comes to cods you do not respond to the topic.... ::) ::)... |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Phemanderac on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:27am cods wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:15am:
How was my comment not on topic... The topic is after all about this lady ripping up her money and then the family getting the money anyway.... I simply pointed out I did not realise that her actions constituted a will... cods wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:15am:
I could only guess I am not as |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:39am Amadd wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:07am:
Exactly. My kids want me to have a good time and if there's any left for them, they'll gladly accept it. |
Title: Re: Oh Damn! Post by cods on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:05am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 8:39am:
hey pansi yesterday you said she should put the money in her sons bank as he would end up with it anyway.. I asked you if you would put your money in your sons bank account... ::) ::).. you didnt answer.. I said I would never put my money in my sons bank as he would go through it like a hot knife through butter... pansi as we all know.. you do not write a WILL on the presumption you wont die for years.... you write it as what if you die tomorrow...what you would like to happen.... and that freedom of choice is being taken away from us...I dont have enough to worry about but in my friends case she does and they will fight the WILL thats for sure...her living son has no children only a partner...I have no idea who he will leave it all too...its a weird set up...but the fact that the grandchildren whom she hasnt seen for years will get her money does bother her....and thats sad ... well to me anyway.. shes now in her 90s she is not in a position to spend it all..she can give it away... to whom???... ::)... and I keep saying.. why should she have too??... if she did spend it all... there would be no problem....but if she doesnt spend it all.... there is a problem...WHY?. I wonder if the op lady had burnt all the money??????....would they still replace it?.... ::) |
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