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Title: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:29pm
How Saudi Wahhabism Is the Fountainhead of Islamist Terrorism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-yousaf-butt-/saudi-wahhabism-islam-terrorism_b_6501916.html?ir=Australia Global Terror is majority funded out of Saudi Arabia. By trading with the Saudis, Australia is funding terror attacks across the globe. Time to break the terror cycle by demanding Turnbull call a trade boycott on Saudi Arabia. Are the Liberal Party pro or anti global terror. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:31pm
poll.
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Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by The Mechanic on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:46pm
You f###wit...
Its apologist like you and the rest of your ultra socialism brow beating luvvies that have caused this.. Go Hang yourself in shame you dole bludging worthless sack of sheet.. >:( |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:47pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:46pm:
Another apologist trying to shift the blame away from the terrorists. Disgraceful. Why do you make excuses for murderers? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:52pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:46pm:
Logic is missing in your post. The Liberal and Labor Parties are happy to finance terror via trade with the Saudis. Cutting trade cuts finance and new recruits into terrorism. Surely you can comprehend this if you try really hard. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Redneck on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:53pm
THEY ARE WINNING THE WAR DOPES!
THEY ARE CAUSING DIVISION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY! STOP ATACKING EACH OTHER, ATTACK THE PERPETRATORS. WE ARE ALL AUSTRALIANS AND ARE ALL HORRIFIED WITH THIS! |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:07pm Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:53pm:
The perpetrators begin with the financing. In this, Australia is complicit. Cutting the financing is the first step of anyone serious of ending the funding consequence. Time for the lib and lab parties to state a position. Will they end financing terror. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:34pm ____ wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:29pm:
Iran finances hamas and Hezbollah, the shia fund Islamic terror as well. Quote:
The sunnis say the shia militias are just as bad as the Islamic state, check out the comments in that article. Choosing between sunni or shia terrorists is like having to choose between Charles Manson or Jeffrey Dahmer. Lets not forget the greens want to import millions of these welfare bludgers to carry on with their 1400 year long battles between sunni and shia in Australia. Once upon a time before leftist idiocy infected Australia we were called the Lucky Country. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by mariacostel on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:38pm ____ wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:29pm:
Please fly to Syria. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:42pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:34pm:
Wahhabism to ISIS: how Saudi Arabia exported the main source of global terrorism Although IS is certainly an Islamic movement, it is neither typical nor mired in the distant past, because its roots are in Wahhabism, a form of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia that developed only in the 18th century. http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/11/wahhabism-isis-how-saudi-arabia-exported-main-source-global-terrorism And spreading it globally. With the financial assistance of Liberal and Labor parties. Time for Australia to stop funding global terrorism. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:43pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:38pm:
Please read your quote at the bottom of my post. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:47pm ____ wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:42pm:
Iran also finances terror greenswine. You should do some homework on the Islamic scholar Muhammad Wahhab, did Wahhab preach the exact same Islam as $Profit Mo? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:56pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 3:47pm:
So you agree, Australia is funding global terrorism. That's a step, Time for Turnbull to boycott Saudi Arabia. Otherwise he is pro terrorist. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Redneck on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:10pm
Much as I dislike him, I think old Greenie has a point here!
Saudi Arabia is well known as the funder of most terrorist organisations in the world. Maybe the west should buy their oil elsewhere until they see the light! Or BOMB THE poo OUT OF THEM! :o |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Maqqa on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:12pm
This is Greens solution to eliminating terrorism - boycott Saudi Arabia
His source? A newspaper article |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:13pm Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:10pm:
Qatar-UAE and Iran also finance Islamic terror. The poor muslim countries like Afghanistan rely on opium to fund terror. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Maqqa on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:16pm
You guys are engaging in a no win argument - its psychology 101
The lefties will make a motherhood statement or use a motherhood concept i.e. things you can't disagree with Eg Everyone deserve freedom or terrorism Once they establish that - they've got you. Eg - if you want to stop terrorism then you have to do..... It's bit like a car salesman he'll say is the safety of your children important to you? Once you say Yes - he's got you to buy the car In this case if you say no - Greens will accuse you of supporting terrorism If you say Yes - then he will tell you you have to distend on your head. It's the same way the argued about Climate Change They might use phrases like (1) Do you want to leave your children with a brighter future (2) Do you want to breathe clean air. If you say Yes then they will tell you Australia must cut carbon emissions by 50%. But this is ridiculous because it will not decrease global temperature If you say no - they will call you a climate change denier |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Karnal on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:23pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:46pm:
Apologists, eh? For a regime that amputates the hands of thieves and dismembers the bodies of protesters. For a regime that has no age of consent, where girls as young as 9 are legally married. And if they stray, they're stoned to death. When the Twin Towers were bombed and the planes were grounded, one private jet was given the go-ahead to return to Saudi Arabia: Osama bin Laden's brothers. Who, exactly, are the apologists here? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by issuevoter on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:32pm
The House of Saud are some of slimiest bastards that ever said one thing and did another. On 10 - 11, they should have been bombed out of existence.
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Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Redneck on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:36pm
Greenhead has a point!
NUKE THE BASTARDS! Just kidding... dont buy their oil would be a good start! |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:49pm Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:13pm:
The opium trade in Afghanistan stems from the USA's intervention. The Americans built the Helmand Dam and this caused the water table to rise and so created an environment suitable for the poppies. The US President then meet the King of Saudi Arabia there and agreed on oil for the US, and in return, the protection of Wahhabism. This global terrorism is ingrained within the US's and so Australia's foreign policy. The only serious longterm plan to end global terrorism is to fix up our previous mistakes. Step one, a trade boycott. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:51pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:16pm:
The left desire a longterm solution. Ending financing of terrorism. The right wants terrorism so to use it to remove democratic rights. The right refuses to forward a winning longterm plan. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by mariacostel on Nov 14th, 2015 at 7:24pm Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:10pm:
They are funding ISIS so much that they are literally building an armed wall to keep them out. Your information needs some correction. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Maqqa on Nov 14th, 2015 at 8:08pm ____ wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 4:51pm:
And when asked about your plans - all you have to offer is name calling Give us a comprehensive plan Desiring a comprehensive solution is like standing infront of a sex shop - desire all you want |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 14th, 2015 at 8:23pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 8:08pm:
You are a poster who continually avoids answering basic questions, meanwhile demanding others jump through your hoops. You don't deserve anything until you change your ways. Australia is supporting Wahhabism through trade with Saudi Arabia and a US Saudi 1951 agreement to keep Wahhabism protected for oil. Australia has french blood on it's hands tonight. Time for Libs and Labs to stop supporting terror ~ stop supporting trade with Saudi Arabia. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15th, 2015 at 9:46am
Oh F F S, it has been pointed out boycotting Saudi won’t achieve anything! Typical Green empty gesture.
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Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Dnarever on Nov 15th, 2015 at 9:54am Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:53pm:
X2 But I think we may disagree about who they are and how to do it. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 9:58am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15th, 2015 at 9:46am:
Australia has made other methods of funding of terror illegal. Have these actions been unsuccessful? Cutting the money trail is the most efficient way of changing behaviour. i.e raising taxes on bad behaviour like smoking. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15th, 2015 at 10:51am
Saudi is a country, a country with oil, with financial tentacles and networks.
Come up with some thing real, not a shallow gesture. There are ways it can be hurt but a stupid boycott is not one of them. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 10:56am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15th, 2015 at 10:51am:
Sort peak oil, make inroads with tackling human caused climate change, bring stability to the world economy, lift more people out of poverty, work towards stabilising war zones ... by shifting away from fossil fuel to sustainable green energy. This will shift power from current fossil fuel centres like Saudi Arabia. It's not rocket science. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:19am
So we should go nuclear.
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Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:21am
Depends. Do you think Indonesia should have nukes all along their fault lines.
If it's not good enough for everyone else, it's not good enough for us. Other point, we are talking about a fast shift from oil. Uranium is not a replacement source for oil. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:27am
Uranium, ummm, not the only fuel.
I suggest we site ours carefully, away from fault lines and above possible tsunamis etc. Maybe build another one north somewhere, sell power to Indo & PNG? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:30am
How does uranium replace Saudi Oil.
Or are you just trying to highjack the thread? Saudi oil must be replaced across the globe. By a cheaper and more accessible source. If you can't support nukes on fault lines in Indonesia then it's not the solution. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Muttley on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:34am
I wish the bent bastard would boycott this forum.
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Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:52am
We can make all the biodiesel we need, desalinate water, power industry.
If you don’t want to buy oil we have to make our own! Nuclear is a cleaner, safer and better option than CSG and coal mining and coal to petrol conversion. What do you want Green? Choices are involved and choices involve consequences. As always, we chose the best path. I say nuclear is cleaner than the alternatives. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:52am Muttley wrote on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:34am:
Not up to the debate? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:55am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:52am:
So it's only a selection of (bad) choices that you decide. Radioactive Uranium is not a replacement for Saudi Oil. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 15th, 2015 at 12:16pm
Why not? Modern plants are breeders, the waste is fed back into them.
You seem very stuck on uranium (and Gen 1 plants) ever heard of thorium? Yes, nuclear has its risks but so have many others. Hundreds die every year mining coal, tens of thousands die of respiratory diseases caused by emissions from coal plants. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 15th, 2015 at 12:20pm
Saudi Arabia isn't supplying us electricity, it supplies oil.
Replacing Saudi oil globally should be a major target so to cut funding of Wahhabism and so global terror. Repeat. Saudi Oil. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Ex Dame Pansi on Nov 16th, 2015 at 6:53am Hollande admits arming Syrian rebels in breach of embargo https://www.rt.com/news/256085-hollande-arms-syrian-rebels/ President Hollande admitted he supported the Syrian rebels lol! If ISIS was not backed by the west, they would fold up and crawl back to where they came from. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Jovial Monk on Nov 16th, 2015 at 9:14am
I don’t think it was ISIS Hollande armed. More than one rebel group in Syria.
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Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 16th, 2015 at 9:52am ____ wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:29pm:
What is Wahhabism how does it differ from Islam? Muhammad Wahhab is a well know Islamic scholar |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 16th, 2015 at 9:57am Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 16th, 2015 at 9:52am:
It is islamic as is exclusive brethren is christian. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 16th, 2015 at 10:21am ____ wrote on Nov 16th, 2015 at 9:57am:
One of the 5 pillars of Islam is hajj, where do you go for that Greenswine? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 16th, 2015 at 10:27am Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 16th, 2015 at 10:21am:
Not being islamic slash or religious, no idea what you are talking about or how it's connected to the thread. |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Baronvonrort on Nov 16th, 2015 at 11:23am ____ wrote on Nov 16th, 2015 at 10:27am:
Do muslims have to go to the homeland of Islam which is Saudi Arabia for Hajj which is one of the 5 pillars of Islam? |
Title: Re: Should Australia Stop Funding Terrorism? Post by Greens_Win on Nov 16th, 2015 at 11:28am Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 16th, 2015 at 11:23am:
I see now. Once in there lifetime unless exempted. Now would a boycott of Saudi Arabia, until they relinquish their links with global terror, last a lifetime? |
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