Last week was the 40 years anniversary of the sacking of the Whitlam government by the Governor-General Kerr.

In 3 short years the Whitlam was in power this is what his government achived


Apart from Medibank?

and the Trade Practices Act 1974?

cutting tariff protections?

and no-fault divorce and the Family Law Act 1975?

the Australia Council?

the Federal Court?

the Order of Australia?

federal legal aid?

the Racial Discrimination Act 1975?

needs-based schools funding?

the recognition of China?

the Law Reform Commission?

the abolition of conscription?

student financial assistance?

FM radio and the Heritage Commission?

non-discriminatory immigration rules?

community health clinics?

Aboriginal land rights?

paid maternity leave for public servants?

lowering the minimum voting age to 18 years?

fair electoral boundaries and Senate representation for the Territories?


Since 1975 we have had 22 years of Fraser, Howard and Abbott Liberal governments, I have left out the Turnbull government as he hasn't been in power that long.

So my question is what has any of the liberal government achieve for all Australians over the 22 years that they have been in power? Can you look back in 40 years time and remember anything they have done?

This is not a thread about I hate Whitlam it is a thread on what a liberal government has done in 22 years while they were in power.

The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years.

Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years. Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction.

PAID MATERNITY LEAVE FOR PUBLIC SERVANTS..

NO DISCRIMINATION THERE.. ::) ::) ::)

the rest mostly stoke of the pen stuff..

not forgetting all the dickheads we have thanks to FREE Uni...

a 10 year  masters degree in pottery just what we needed.. ;D ;D

Whitlam was one of our best-ever PMs.

He did more in his time to benefit this country than ALL successive Lib governments put together.

Their ideology of tearing-down everything he created is just one reason why decent people despise them.

Australia NEEDS another Whitlam. And soon.

The libs sold our 167 tonne gold reserves cheap, which the Chinese swooped on.


The RBA revealed in July 1997 that over a six-month period, it had sold 167 tonnes, reducing Australia's reserves to just 80 tonnes. At this time, the value of its gold assets fell from $3.6bn to about $1.1bn.
The RBA's sales pushed the world gold price down to an 11-year low, returning just $2.4bn for the gold that was sold via a single broker engaged without a tender.

The same amount of gold would be worth about $7.4bn today.


http://ausbullion.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/australias-reserve-banks-gold-sale-cost.html

How Australia squandered the mining boom

Why Australia is ending its historic mining boom little better off than when it started.


Australia failed to capitalise on a once-in-a-lifetime mining boom because politicians put short-term vote-winning policies ahead of the long-term interest of the nation, economists say.

The private interests of the powerful mining lobby were equally to blame for the squandering of a golden opportunity to strengthen Australia’s economic future.


An unprecedented boom in demand for commodities – mainly from China – saw Australian exports of iron ore and coal skyrocket in the early 2000s.

But rather than use the associated tax revenue to strengthen the non-mining sectors in preparation for the inevitable end of the boom, the Howard government passed the savings straight to households in the form of income tax and superannuation tax concessions, a move which Labor supported.

“I’ve never seen something so squandered in my life,” says Mr Richard Robinson, associate director of economics at BIS Shrapnel.

“What happened in the 2000s [when the mining boom began] is that corporate tax revenue increased. Instead of putting that into a future fund, their first response was to recycle those increases into personal tax cuts. The household sector was therefore the main beneficiary of the mining boom.”

This, he says, translated into increased investment in property and rising house prices.

http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/2015/01/15/australia-squandered-mining-boom/

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 6:52am: The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years. Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction. PAID MATERNITY LEAVE FOR PUBLIC SERVANTS.. NO DISCRIMINATION THERE.. ::) ::) ::) the rest mostly stoke of the pen stuff.. not forgetting all the dickheads we have thanks to FREE Uni... a 10 year  masters degree in pottery just what we needed..

When government made changes like this and the move to the 36 hr week the idea was that it was meant to flow through all employment, it was never meant to be exclusive to the PS. The problem was that the Libs and Business were successful in preventing the natural flow of these things.

The Howard govt created. . .wealthfare and a huge structural Budget deficit. And fanned and fuelled a credit driven real estate boom and pissed $350Bn boom time revenue up against the wall.

What a waste of 12 years—and the damage the little pillock did still lives 9 years after he got the Double Order of the Boot, second PM in 100 years to do so.

Privatised Telstra, deliberately, as a wholesale and retail monopoly to get more money to spend on pork and buying elections. THAT stupidity is still causing problems now too, the next stupid Lib govt had to buy the copper and HFC back to run obsolete technology. That will have to be fixed soon to get high speed broadband.

Here is a start!!!


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Introduced to G.S.T. Introduced tougher gun regulation. Increased funding to Private Schools. Privatised the employment service. Introduced Chaplains in Schools. Introduced work for the dole. Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria). Introduced rebates for private health care. Built the Guan railway. Sold off Telstra. Introduced Work Choices. Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement.

There could be more so feel free to add to the list!!!

:) :) :)

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Introduced to G.S.T.

It's a thing. Not exactly earth-shattering.


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Introduced tougher gun regulation.

A lot of people are happy with this, I'm not sure it was necessary, but I'm also not opposed to it. It may have helped prevent mass shootings.


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Increased funding to Private Schools.

Rather they funded public ones better, to be honest.


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Privatised the employment service.

Not sure how well this has worked out. They seem to be scam artists trying to do a little as possible and collect government money.


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Introduced Chaplains in Schools.

Totally unnecessary.


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Introduced work for the dole.

Which doesn't work. It's a punitive program that appeases taxpayers by exploiting the unemployed and undercuts the minimum wage.


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Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria).

Thanks for that.


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Introduced rebates for private health care.

Once again, prefer an improvement to the public system.


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Built the Guan railway.

Good job.


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Sold off Telstra.

Still unsure about this.


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Introduced Work Choices.

Which didn't last all that long.


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Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement.

Mostly good, but some downsides, too.

If the “Guan” railway is the Alice Springs to Darwin railway the Howard govt provided a tiny amount of the money.

Heh, that railway line gave me a nice little profit. Bought a few thousand OneSteel shares at 99¢, sold them not that much later at $1.66  :)

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:29am:

Here is a start!!! Quote: Introduced to G.S.T. Introduced tougher gun regulation. Increased funding to Private Schools. Privatised the employment service. Introduced Chaplains in Schools. Introduced work for the dole. Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria). Introduced rebates for private health care. Built the Guan railway. Sold off Telstra. Introduced Work Choices. Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement. There could be more so feel free to add to the list!!! :) :) :)

Phil there is only 2 things there that Howard didn't do Abbott done them.

The second or third I should say Iraq, Syria war. Hawke sent the troops to the first Iraq war in 1990

Hawke sent one frigate.

Maybe the question that should be asked is that if Labor is 'so good' why is the Coalition in government a lot more. If Whitlam was so great then why was he defeated not once, but twice by a record majority.

I am sure you have your conspiracy theories, but the fact is the people hate whitlam.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:29am:

Here is a start!!! Quote: Introduced to G.S.T. Introduced tougher gun regulation. Increased funding to Private Schools. Privatised the employment service. Introduced Chaplains in Schools. Introduced work for the dole. Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria). Introduced rebates for private health care. Built the Guan railway. Sold off Telstra. Introduced Work Choices. Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement. There could be more so feel free to add to the list!!! :) :) :)

Brought us a series of The World's Greatest Treasurers and Employment Ministers:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30124390/wages-growth-missing-link-in-buoyant-mood/

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/videos/2013/12/rosetta_s_journey_b-roll/solar_system_animation_showing_rosetta_trajectory/13444486-1-eng-GB/Solar_system_animation_showing_Rosetta_trajectory_video_production_full.jpg

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30127427/budget-on-trajectory-to-balance-morrison/

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mariacostel wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

Maybe the question that should be asked is that if Labor is 'so good' why is the Coalition in government a lot more. If Whitlam was so great then why was he defeated not once, but twice by a record majority. I am sure you have your conspiracy theories, but the fact is the people hate whitlam.

No more than they hate any other politician........ actually hardly anyone outside of here discusses Whitlam.... but they sure have the knives out for the current lot.....

Kat wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:11am:

Whitlam was one of our best-ever PMs. He did more in his time to benefit this country than ALL successive Lib governments put together. Their ideology of tearing-down everything he created is just one reason why decent people despise them. Australia NEEDS another Whitlam. And soon.

Whitlam was indeed an intelligent, charismatic, witty politician who truly may have thought he was doing the right thing, but most of his 'reforms' were completely unaffordable and unsustainable then, and even more so, now.

The welfare state mentality he fostered and the coddling of rampant unionism has crippled this country's industry competitiveness.

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mariacostel wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

Maybe the question that should be asked is that if Labor is 'so good' why is the Coalition in government a lot more. If Whitlam was so great then why was he defeated not once, but twice by a record majority. I am sure you have your conspiracy theories, but the fact is the people hate whitlam.

Howard lost two elections also and he was so hated he lost his seat too. Oh Mcgoo you've done it again.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Hawke sent one frigate.

PLUS THESE MEN

This table contains the Gulf War Nominal Roll for Army personnel. It lists the surname, initials, and service number of each person as well as unit, ship or squadron details - where known.
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Initials
Service Number
Unit/Ship/Squadron
Almeida      AA      325411      USNS Comfort - 11FD AMB
Amin      A      317444      HMAS Brisbane - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Atkinson      RN      4722100      USNS Comfort - 3 FWD GEN HOSP
Baker      JR      4401345      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Broad      SJ      556139      HMAS Success - 111 AD BTY (LT)
Cantwell      J      1205014      Dragoon U - 1 ARMD REGT (TANK)
Chidgey      CD      212264      
Corke      K      318606      5 Innis - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Craig      DA      221033      US Int Te - ADSO (AASW)
Cromack      CJ      221671      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Drew      G      224625      UK Army - SASR
Eggins      RL      235604      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Franklin      NJ      4401254      HMAS Success - 111 AD BTY (LT)
Garden      HA      17291      HMAS Darwin - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Gillian      DC      323715      US Int Te - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Goold      AG      453999      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Hampton      BD      228131      
Hodkinson      A      2800864      MODUK UK - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Hogan      GP      225734      US INTEL TE - ADS OVERSEAS
Hyde      M      313876      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Inglis      PA      554688      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Irwin      AJ      228412      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Joy      RA      1206173      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Joyce      H      F229007      USNS Comfort - 1 FD HOSP
Khalil      A      231286      HMAS Sydney - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Kumnick      DL      F556989      USNS Comfort - 1 FD HOSP
Lewis      ED      1905002      USNS Comfort - PERS DIV, AHQ
Mackay      AJ      147868      USNS Comfort - 1 MIL HOSP
Masotti      N      2802682      USNS Comfort - 2 FD AMB
McGarry      KJ      48393      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
McWatters      AJ      226570      FRG 4 (UK) Armd Bde - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Moriarty      G      5100470      US Int Te - 2 DIV INT COY
Newboult      GW      F264815      USNS Comfort - 1 FD HOSP
Overstead      PL      1202466      Observer - ADS OVERSEAS
Parker      GL      325839      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Reynolds      GJ      182683      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Robertson      AT      455168      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Robinson      JA      230800      HMAS Sydney - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Scanlan      PJ      442194      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Schofield      PT      185090      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Sheppard      G      552048      US Int Te - ADSO (AASW)
Sims      PG      48999      39ER UK - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Sonogan      RK      329160      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Teh      JY      860697      USNS Comfort - 1 MIL HOSP
Thannhauser      L      325504      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Toohill      SW      236486      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Vagi      CL      314438      
Walters      JCN      227615      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Watkins      WP      321958      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Williams      D      319637      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Wrobel      J      436044      USNS Comfort - DCSC - SA
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Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:40am:

Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.

And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am: Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus. And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.

It doesn't matter that much. We don't need a surplus. As long as year to year deficits are smaller than the nominal economic growth from year to year it is never a problem.

The only commentators that view Whitlam's government in high regard are shrill, brainless leftards. In fact, he was an irresponsible socialist vandal intent on destroying Australia's economy. Sound familiar?

Labor voter wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

Last week was the 40 years anniversary of the sacking of the Whitlam government by the Governor-General Kerr. In 3 short years the Whitlam was in power this is what his government achived

You forgot the Lima Declaration.

Its effects on manufacturing are still being felt. What a legacy.

double plus good wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

The only commentators that view Whitlam's government in high regard are shrill, brainless leftards. In fact, he was an irresponsible socialist vandal intent on destroying Australia's economy. Sound familiar?

The only people that thought he was of any value was the assisted migrants fee loaders  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

lee wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

Labor voter wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 6:21am: Last week was the 40 years anniversary of the sacking of the Whitlam government by the Governor-General Kerr. In 3 short years the Whitlam was in power this is what his government achived You forgot the Lima Declaration. Its effects on manufacturing are still being felt. What a legacy.

DEPARTMENT OF
FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND TRADE

THE LIMA DECLARATION

The Lima Declaration and Plan of Action on Industrial Development and Cooperation was adopted in 1975 at a Conference sponsored by the United Nations Industrial Development Organisation (UNIDO). It has, in legal terms, exhortatory force only; that is, it sets out recommendations on assistance to developing countries. The Declaration does not have treaty status and therefore does not require signature or ratification. It is not, and never was, binding on the Australian Government under international law. The Australian Government formulates its policy on developing countries on the basis of what it judges to be the national interest.

At the time of its adoption, Australia gave only qualified support to the declaration. Since then the Lima Declaration has been superseded by the more recent International Development Strategy for the Fourth United Nations Development Decade (IDS IV) which is based on the view that responsibility for the promotion of economic and social development rests primarily with the governments of developing countries. Like the Lima Declaration, IDS IV is not binding on the Australian government. That said, an important point in both the Lima Declaration and the International Development Strategy, with which the Australian Government wholeheartedly agrees, is that it is appropriate, in trading with developing countries, to accord them differential and favourable treatment. Indeed, in 1966, long before the Lima Declaration, Australia led the world in conferring concessional tariffs to imports to Australia from developing countries under the Australian System of Tariff Preferences (ASTP).

Under ASTP, tariff concessions are granted to developing countries to facilitate their economic development by helping them to compete with developed countries in the Australian market. The current scheme extends a uniform preference margin of five percentage points on most dutiable imports of developing country origin. This means that developing countries face a tariff on dutiable goods which is five percentage points less than the tariff applicable to the same goods from an industrialised country. The ASTP does not contain any country or product specific quota restrictions or similar mechanisms to limit the automatic threshold provisions which would trigger the removal of products or countries from the scheme.

Accordingly, the ASTP offers developing countries predictable and stable benefits, and its administrative simplicity ensures that it is easily understood and readily used by all beneficiaries. In 1992, almost 96% of Australia’s dutiable imports from developing countries entered at a preferential rate under the ASTP.

Some adjustments to developing country preference arrangements have been made recently to take into account concerns of domestic industry about the effect of preference margins to Australian industry. From 1st July 1993, developing country preferences extended to Singapore, Hong Kong, the Republic of Korea and Taiwan will commence to phase out because the strength of these economies and the capacity of their exports to compete in the Australian market without the assistance of a concessional tariff. The Government also decided that preferences for textiles, clothing and footwear, chemicals, fruit juice and certain foods will begin phasing out from 1st July 1993 for all beneficiaries except the Least Developed Countries and the South Pacific Island Territories. These industries in Australia are facing substantially improved competition from developing countries at the same time as they are undergoing structural adjustment under tariff reduction and other programs. Tariff preferences are no longer required for developing countries to compete in the Australian market in these industries.

Labor voter wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

Since 1975 we have had 22 years of Fraser, Howard and Abbott Liberal governments, I have left out the Turnbull government as he hasn't been in power that long.

Comparing the above quote and the headline of this thread - hhmmm

3 years of Labor???!!!

1975 to 2015 is 40 years

22 of the 40 years is LIBs
18 of the 40 years is ALP

So how does this reconcile with the heading of this thread?

mariacostel wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am: Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus. And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.

Poor Longy, so little understanding.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am: Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am: Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus. And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong. Poor Longy, so little understanding.

I agree

We should go with the Bernie Sanders tax solution "it will be less than 90% but more than 70%

Maqqa wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 11:00am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:58am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am: Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am: Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus. And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong. Poor Longy, so little understanding. I agree We should go with the Bernie Sanders tax solution "it will be less than 90% but more than 70%

And zero production

crocodile wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Tariff preferences are no longer required for developing countries to compete in the Australian market in these industries.

Yep, we now have free trade agreements, which enshrines past practices.

FTAs have not been to our benefit.

The welfare culture that Whitlam started works a treat though, eh?
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

That Howard started you mean!

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years. Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction.

Sorry, many people got off the boring farm during those years and brought money into the city as a consequence.

You know nothing about how economies work. Efficiency and logic are put together to constantly improve processes.

They want farmers off the land as only big business can put up with the potentially long and arduous downturns. Especially in a country like Australia....

double plus good wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 12:13pm:

The welfare culture that Whitlam started works a treat though, eh? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

You mean getting time-wasters off the farm and bringing them and their resourcefulness into the city where it wasn't wasted out in boring droughts that come and go in an uncertain rythym?

You know nothing of how economies are put together.

Free-markets don't work: booms and busts cause triple-murder suicides remember!!

double plus good wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

The only commentators that view Whitlam's government in high regard are shrill, brainless leftards. In fact, he was an irresponsible socialist vandal intent on destroying Australia's economy. Sound familiar?

You'd prefer everyone still wasting their talents on the farmstead twiddling their thumbs during random droughts??

Bob Ellis strikes again.

What have the LNP given Australia over those 22 years?

Not much!

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

What have the LNP given Australia over those 22 years? Not much!

a structural deficit, a bad reputation and possibly the biggest idiot ever as Pm (abbott)

John Smith wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 1:14pm: What have the LNP given Australia over those 22 years? Not much! a structural deficit, a bad reputation and possibly the biggest idiot ever as Pm (abbott)

His legacy: copper internet for the clever country in the Asian century we built! Wow, I don't think the world is going to stop laughing at us for the best part of this century!

double plus good wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

The only commentators that view Whitlam's government in high regard are shrill, brainless leftards. Wrong - most unbiased commentators would disagree, and many of them are far from being 'lefties'. In fact, he was an irresponsible socialist vandal Wrong again - quite the opposite. intent on destroying Australia's economy. He wasn't, and he didn't. Sound familiar? Yep, sounds like all the other bullshit propaganda the right come out with.

Whitlam’s reputation is safe. Howard’s has copped a beating, deservedly, over the years. Most profligate PM.

The 95% of the population that DON'T read Fauxfacts or watch the ABC would disagree.

double plus good wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

The 95% of the population that DON'T read Fauxfacts or watch the ABC would disagree.

No, they wouldn't, and no they don't.

double plus good wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

The 95% of the population that DON'T read Fauxfacts or watch the ABC would disagree.

Howard was a nobody: forever and ever. Who was that bloke the lib voters all reckoned had a cosmic relationship with interest rates again:... oh, that's right....EVERYONE FORGOT HIM TOO!!!!!!!!!!!

FACE IT: ABBOTTS LEGACY IS COPPER INTERNET AND SO IS MALCOLMS AND BEFORE THOSE TWO YOU HAD HOWARD WHO WAS WELL KNOWN FOR WINNING HIS LAST TWO ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE 9-11 TERROR ATTACKS WHEN EVEN I VOTED FOR HIM TWICE AND I HAVE BEEN ON THIS FORUM SAYING IT FOR MILLENIA!

:D :D :D :D

THE LIBS ARE A GLOBAL JOKE.............yay, go copper internet: because you deserve it son,... of ocurse you can live here forever- just stay down the other end of the mcmansion like i had to on the farm  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


well done free-market liars...................... most wealth is inherited and now ever you are starting to suspect the truth of the matter thatnks to worldwide jihad caused by your exponential carbon emmissions  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

WTF, that post was understandable.

double plus good wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 3:41am:

WTF, that post was understandable.

wtf, copper internet was your only claim to fame  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov

The amount of economic damage Labour did to Australia in 3 short years was truly astounding Labor Voter.

Just look at Medibank / Medicare, it's just been a big defacto annual tax increase that never goes away.  :D

Swagman wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:15am:

Quote: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov The amount of economic damage Labour did to Australia in 3 short years was truly astounding Labor Voter. Just look at Medibank / Medicare, it's just been a big defacto annual tax increase that never goes away.  :D

Disease in the community is a governments biggest problem!

You know shite from shite buddy: go and talk about free-markets with-in a diseased population... go on buddy let's hear it  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D If the disease goes global, in the context of a global market, then you have wild economic swings giving zero market certainty ----------> indeed less average life span in which potential consumers can purchase goods and services if nothing else.

YOU ARE A JUNIOR: GO ASK DADDY FOR MORE INSTRUCTIONS BUDDY  ;)

- on so many levels you are just wrong jana wrongggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg  :o :o :o