I have a request to make of FD.

The member–run boards should be re-ordered in descending order of number of posts.

Why should Fermentations with over 2000 posts be much harder to find then Real Estate with 200 posts and no activity at all for five months?

A new Mod for Real Estate seems a good idea too  ;D

Goodness me!    I have a reply button in Feedback.  I guess that general ban on many Members here is over!

So you going to use that there button for something useful?

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 5:31pm:

So you going to use that there button for something useful?

Do you have anything particular in mind?

Aussie wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 5:13pm:

Goodness me!    I have a reply button in Feedback.  I guess that general ban on many Members here is over!

Just you. ;D

:D What thread is this?

You think my idea is a good one?

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 5:38pm:

:D What thread is this? You think my idea is a good one?

Yeas, I do, but that won't count for much more than nought.

Oh well, see what happens.

When the vast majority of posts on a board are made by one person it renders the post count kind of pointless.

You haven’t had a look lately.

Thanks for confirming your bias tho.

Just a cursory glance at the fermentations board.
Of the 20 threads on the first page. 19 have been started by the same bloke.
Of those threads, 17 of them have the last post by that same bloke.

See my prior post about the count being kinda pointless.

:)

Yeah, very cursory.

Have a read of those threads.

At least I try, and am succeeding, in getting interest and posts from the membership. Hell, from Soren to GreggaryPeccary they post in my board.  :D

Not that it is any of your business.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 5:04pm:

I have a request to make of FD. The member–run boards should be re-ordered in descending order of number of posts. Why should Fermentations with over 2000 posts be much harder to find then Real Estate with 200 posts and no activity at all for five months? A new Mod for Real Estate seems a good idea too  ;D

I don't really have a view either way what you say does seem reasonable but then I wonder how you would find some new topics or low use topics in this case. I don't know if it is possible but the ideal would be to be able to order the posts how you like - most recent / highest number / alphabetically. Probably not possible in the system.

Admittedly I have no real issue with how it currently works though I agree it isn't always ideal.

Well, yeah. There is a bit of work involved in the re-ordering the boards. Not that much.

I just thought it might be a nice idea. Might help FD earn a bit more advertising income if active boards aren’t buried?

Maybe all those HUGE boards dealing with Islam could be moved to the bottom?

I don't think it matters if the idea is good or bad to be honest.

The index is not all that hard to find things in. In my opinion (which is probably not worth much) this is more of a perceived status issue than anything else...

For my money, if any re arranging where to take place (and let's be perfectly clear here, I do not think it does) then surely the smart money would be listing things alphabetically - that's how most things are listed. Well, except for popularity contests I suppose.

I believe it was The Mechanic suggested re-ordering the Member–run boards originally. I think it is a good idea: if you show a bit of energy why not be rewarded for that?

Wouldn't increased participation by a range of members be rewarding?

It would.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:06am:

Well, yeah. There is a bit of work involved in the re-ordering the boards. Not that much. I just thought it might be a nice idea. Might help FD earn a bit more advertising income if active boards aren’t buried? Maybe all those HUGE boards dealing with Islam could be moved to the bottom?

Make up your mind JM. Islam would go to the top if I acted on your initial request, with extremism second.

Just giving some alternatives, reorder the boards in descending post count order and/or put the bigger boards on the bottom of the index.

Real Estate has had no effort put in for nearly 6 months so why is that higher up the index than Food or Fermentations that are active and have active Board Mods?

One other question/suggestion: YABB offers the possibility of hiding a post in a thread, but it does not work here, only threads can be hidden. Can that be fixed?

We can delete specific posts if necessary.
Rarely is that needed.

If it was re-ordered on a descending vote count, it would look like this:

Islam (Modded) 61351
Extremism (No Mod.)  43348
Relationships (Modded) 31328
Environment (No Mod.)  27031
Spirituality (Modded) 21846
Multiculturalism etc (No Mod.) 14904
Hunting & Fishing (No Mod.)  7606
The Tavern (Modded) 7116
Sport (Modded)  5171
Finance/Economics (Modded) 5153
Atheism (No Mod.)  4470
Fringe (No Mod.)  4408
Film, TV, Radio (No Mod.) 3473
Drug Policy (No Mod.)  2955
Philosopy (No Mod.) 2892
Cats/critters  (Modded)  2828
Defence (No Mod.)  2428
Fermentations (Modded) 2091
Womens' Issues (Modded)  1795
Food (Modded)  1674
Health/Welfare (Modded)  1470
Travel (No Mod.) 946
Books  (Modded)  887
Real Estate  (Modded) 833
Games (Modded) 373
The Tool Shed (Modded)  312.

E&OE

                                                         

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 12:59pm:

We can delete specific posts if necessary. Rarely is that needed.

But there is a button to hide a post, just it does not work (in the Member–run boards anyway.) Just asking if that was done for a reason or just happened or could it be made to work etc/

Hah, maybe we could have another division of the Index so

General
Member run boards
Party boards
Religious boards

Under religion put Spirituality, Islam, Extremism, Fringe, Atheism, Multicuture. Religion could go just above Party boards (or below, who cares?)

Aussie wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 1:37pm:

If it was re-ordered on a descending vote count, it would look like this: Islam (Modded) 61351 Extremism (No Mod.)  43348 Relationships (Modded) 31328 Environment (No Mod.)  27031 Spirituality (Modded) 21846 Multiculturalism etc (No Mod.) 14904 Hunting & Fishing (No Mod.)  7606 The Tavern (Modded) 7116 Sport (Modded)  5171 Finance/Economics (Modded) 5153 Atheism (No Mod.)  4470 Fringe (No Mod.)  4408 Film, TV, Radio (No Mod.) 3473 Drug Policy (No Mod.)  2955 Philosopy (No Mod.) 2892 Cats/critters  (Modded)  2828 Defence (No Mod.)  2428 Fermentations (Modded) 2091 Womens' Issues (Modded)  1795 Food (Modded)  1674 Health/Welfare (Modded)  1470 Travel (No Mod.) 946 Books  (Modded)  887 Real Estate  (Modded) 833 Games (Modded) 373 The Tool Shed (Modded)  312. E&OE

So Fermentations would move up a notch or two? Real Estate has 833 posts not 200 as the OP stated. 

Not just about Fermentations dear Neferti.

Relationships would drop one spot, but I have no issue with that.

The suggestion makes sense, but some little effort will be required to get it done.

Anyone locked out of Feedback can comment in Relationships and Agnes has started another one in Fermentations. I will copy useful and relevant posts to here (no, I don’t mean just posts supporting my suggestion  :) )


There seem to be a lot of boards with no Mod in your list, Aussie?

It seems Redneck is not impressed?

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 3:57pm:

It seems Redneck is not impressed?

Redneck should get FD to make The Shed available to ALL ...... then he would get more posts. Even us girls want to ask a "mechanical" question from time to time.  ;D

What about it Red? ;)

Interesting. JM can post here, poor old George not.

Not a prob, since I use JM all the time. A datum for FD?

Nobody seems totally opposed to my idea.

Will you do it, FD?

.

8-)

I would leave things as they are freediver.

Sounds like a member that creates most of the topics on his own board blowing his own trumpet!

Besides we are all used to the order, why create confusion.

Remember its Saul Goodman

Yes, the rotund monk here seems almost frenetic in his desire for change.

I would agree with the previous poster.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

Yes, the rotund monk here seems almost frenetic in his desire for change. I would agree with the previous poster.

Or, perhaps a request for a bit of token recognition from FD for the effort he has put in. He started it from scratch.

Aussie wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 11:16am:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:54am: Yes, the rotund monk here seems almost frenetic in his desire for change. I would agree with the previous poster. Or, perhaps a request for a bit of token recognition from FD for the effort he has put in. He started it from scratch.

In between leaving it unattended after several flounces and spectacular non-leaves lol

Saul Goodman wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 5:37pm:

I would leave things as they are freediver. Sounds like a member that creates most of the topics on his own board blowing his own trumpet! Besides we are all used to the order, why create confusion. Remember its Saul Goodman

Agree with that. No reason at all to change it.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

Saul Goodman wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 5:37pm: I would leave things as they are freediver. Sounds like a member that creates most of the topics on his own board blowing his own trumpet! Besides we are all used to the order, why create confusion. Remember its Saul Goodman Agree with that. No reason at all to change it.

You are wrong.  There is reason.  The Moderator has asked for it.  There is no reason to ignore (or deny) such a simple request from the person responsible for building it.

This is not a democracy Aussie, this is a business.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:

This is not a democracy Aussie, this is a business.

Well......sort of.  But even a 'sort of' business requires good management, and that includes management of its supporters.  I mean  ~ fair dinkum, what skin is it off FD's nose to meet this ever so simple request  from a supporter?

10–20 minutes of work, a few minutes more if he takes all the religious/hate crap and puts it in a separate section. That estimate is based on how it would go in phpBB3, not YABB, of course, can’t be too dissimilar?

How easy would it be to allow board Mods to ban members temporarily, a week say?

And can Mods be allowed to hide crappy, abusive posts?

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:

10–20 minutes of work, a few minutes more if he takes all the religious/hate crap and puts it in a separate section. That estimate is based on how it would go in phpBB3, not YABB, of course, can’t be too dissimilar? How easy would it be to allow board Mods to ban members temporarily, a week say? And can Mods be allowed to hide crappy, abusive posts?

Are you attempting to tell Freediver how to manage HIS Forum?

You, Jovial Monk (George, Maxine, et al) have your own, exclusive, PA Forum and last time I looked it was only HBS Guy (you)  and Left of Centre (Lefty) who posts there, regularly.

What makes you think that IF Freediver rearranged the order of "member run boards" it would add benefit to the OzPol site?

PS to Arsie. Butt out.

Neferti wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 1:07pm: 10–20 minutes of work, a few minutes more if he takes all the religious/hate crap and puts it in a separate section. That estimate is based on how it would go in phpBB3, not YABB, of course, can’t be too dissimilar? How easy would it be to allow board Mods to ban members temporarily, a week say? And can Mods be allowed to hide crappy, abusive posts? Are you attempting to tell Freediver how to manage HIS Forum? You, Jovial Monk (George, Maxine, et al) have your own, exclusive, PA Forum and last time I looked it was only HBS Guy (you)  and Left of Centre (Lefty) who posts there, regularly. What makes you think that IF Freediver rearranged the order of "member run boards" it would add benefit to the OzPol site?

I reckon there is an obvious reason, which is, that it would encourage the Mods of Member run Boards to generate interest, and the more traffic here, the better it is for FD and the Forum.

Aussie wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:20pm:

I reckon there is an obvious reason, which is, that it would encourage the Mods of Member run Boards to generate interest, and the more traffic here, the better it is for FD and the Forum.

What you "reckon" means stuff all.

Member Run Board MODS have limited "power" for a very good reason.

This is FREEDIVER's Forum.

You already have a Political Forum that you "own" arsie ...

http://littleozzybloke.com/lobdc1/index.php

Pop off over there and GENERATE SOME TRAFFIC ... last I looked it was D.E.A.D.  ;D ;D ;D

I just see an estimate and two questions.

Seems the PA cesspit dwellers are very insecure, desperate even.

FD gets revenue from the ads to pay the cost of hosting this board. Maybe a bit of effort might increase the ad revenue.

’Sup, Naffy?

If FD can’t get more ad revenue maybe he could reduce the bandwidth needed by removing the excrescence attached to this forum like a diseased poultice hanging out a hospital window. That is Frank Hardy quote too.

Neferti wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 4:20pm: I reckon there is an obvious reason, which is, that it would encourage the Mods of Member run Boards to generate interest, and the more traffic here, the better it is for FD and the Forum. What you "reckon" means stuff all. Member Run Board MODS have limited "power" for a very good reason. This is FREEDIVER's Forum. You already have a Political Forum that you "own" arsie ... http://littleozzybloke.com/lobdc1/index.php Pop off over there and GENERATE SOME TRAFFIC ... last I looked it was D.E.A.D.  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the free plug!!

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:35pm:

I just see an estimate and two questions. Seems the PA cesspit dwellers are very insecure, desperate even. FD gets revenue from the ads to pay the cost of hosting this board. Maybe a bit of effort might increase the ad revenue. ’Sup, Naffy? If FD can’t get more ad revenue maybe he could reduce the bandwidth needed by removing the excrescence attached to this forum like a diseased poultice hanging out a hospital window. That is Frank Hardy quote too.

IF Freediver gets compensated for "traffic" on an Australian Political Forum such as this one ... he has done extremely well and is obviously a better and smarter operator than you or arsie.

That is another desperate–sounding post.

’sup Naffy?

Aussie wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Thanks for the free plug!!

No problem. You might be better there than here, hassling Nef. ;)

I am in favour of reordering all the boards so that they're alphabetical...

That just seems like the most practical reordering, if indeed reodering is possible, worthwhile and desired.

Why would people NOT want to have it alphabetical?

Nothing wrong with leaving it as it is.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 8:31am:

Nothing wrong with leaving it as it is.

Other than  ignoring a not unreasonable request from a loyal and active supporter.

Why should Food and Fermentations, active boards with active Mods be way below a board like Real Estate with no activity for 6 months?

I still don't buy a board being active when it's the same bloke writing all the posts.

On the first page of fermentations there are 20 threads.
17 have been started by one bloke.
The same bloke is either the last or only person to comment on 18 of the 20.

I could go down and just spam real estate. Would it make it "active" discussion?
No of course it wouldn't.

The whole issue is a non event in my view.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:39am:

I still don't buy a board being active when it's the same bloke writing all the posts. On the first page of fermentations there are 20 threads. 17 have been started by one bloke. The same bloke is either the last or only person to comment on 18 of the 20. I could go down and just spam real estate. Would it make it "active" discussion? No of course it wouldn't. The whole issue is a non event in my view.

So you keep repeating.

You’d think he has skin in the game. He doesn’t have a Member–run board so he does not have skin in the game.

Why does he keep talking about my board when there are other boards? For example, Food is more active than Real Estate.

I can see no reason why boards that are moribund should push more active but newer boards down the index. Not one person has given an reason why that should be, not one!

These boards are all bigger and have more recent activity than moribund Real Estate but are below it in the Index:

Health and Welfare
Cats and Critters
Books (Not that much bigger but more active than REst.)
Defence
Food
Women's Issues
Fermentations

They deserve to be higher up than dead boards like Real Estate IMHO.

Stop sooking, Monk.  The "it's not fair on me" went out when we were pre-schoolers.

I shall make an effort to INCREASE the post-rate in Real Estate by posting new Sales Information of Properties across Australia, because I can.  I might even find a few properties in Europe.  ;D

I think that you are just having a go at LisaJones.  Cease and desist. It won't give you leverage.  ;)

Would agree.
This subject has run its course.

Neferti wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:29pm:

Stop sooking, Monk.  The "it's not fair on me" went out when we were pre-schoolers. I shall make an effort to INCREASE the post-rate in Real Estate by posting new Sales Information of Properties across Australia, because I can.  I might even find a few properties in Europe.  ;D I think that you are just having a go at LisaJones.  Cease and desist. It won't give you leverage.  ;)

You always get everything wrong, don’t you?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Would agree. This subject has run its course.

That is up to FD, of course.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

This subject has run its course.

Not according to a combined membership of one. . .lol

I believe Sport should be at the top because it is the most important topic and has a fantastic moderator!!!

[smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif]

;D

Have you noticed, Monk?

Just 'shows to go' you how observant people here really are.  Amazing!

Ha! Have now!

Thanks FD!

Now, if . . .   ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's not alphabetical...