We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel

If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime.

They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country

In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty

Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country?

So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!!

Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty?

OK........

You ever think it may be unwise to start new topics late at night.

You have been consistently creating topics that embarrass yourself at a time when peoples mental capabilities are typically diminished.

This could be avoided.

The last 3 days in a row you have created a late night topic which has been a viable contestant for the silliest topic of that day.

In kindgarden, where is cruelty? even it's there, it's only bullying.

beer wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 7:14am:

In kindgarden, where is cruelty? even it's there, it's only bullying.

CHEERS!

http://41.media.tumblr.com/cb004b03d4771bdb6df48a7e93c67d13/tumblr_mkfgecQLvM1qasthro1_500.jpg

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:40pm:

We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime. They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country? So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!!

You've been misinformed.

Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:50pm:

Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........

Let me get it right for you
(1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty
(2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home

Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

You've been misinformed.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 6:08am:

You ever think it may be unwise to start new topics late at night. You have been consistently creating topics that embarrass yourself at a time when peoples mental capabilities are typically diminished. This could be avoided. The last 3 days in a row you have created a late night topic which has been a viable contestant for the silliest topic of that day.

Where am I wrong in this thread?

If these illegals think we are cruel and they can get a better deal somewhere else then get the f#ck out of here

Cancel their application

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:36am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home Asylum seekers aren't illegals. You've been misinformed.

I've already referenced the UN Refugee Convention

If they think they can get a better deal somewhere else then go

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:36am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home Asylum seekers aren't illegals. You've been misinformed. I've already referenced the UN Refugee Convention If they think they can get a better deal somewhere else then go

First of all, the UN Refugee Convention is not a piece of legislation.

It has no say in what is or what isn't legal.

As I said, you have been misinformed.

Secondly, where do you think they would get a better deal?

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home

the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think?

John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:45am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? UN (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think?

Yes it is telling

Australia is not cruel

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:46am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:45am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? UN (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think? Yes it is telling Australia is not cruel

rubbish ... imagine how badly they must fear for their lives if they are willing to put up with being locked in concentration camps

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:46am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:45am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? UN (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think? Yes it is telling Australia is not cruel

Any idea how many Australian laws have been changed to prevent refugees from taking any type of action and to prevent anyone who knows anything from being able to report it ?

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:46am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:45am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? UN (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think? Yes it is telling Australia is not cruel

How about 'egregious'?

"'Cruel, inhumane, degrading': Amnesty slams Australia's asylum policy"

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/06/15/cruel-inhumane-degrading-amnesty-slams-australias-asylum-policy

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:46am: John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:45am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? UN (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think? Yes it is telling Australia is not cruel How about 'egregious'? "'Cruel, inhumane, degrading': Amnesty slams Australia's asylum policy" http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/06/15/cruel-inhumane-degrading-amnesty-slams-australias-asylum-policy

I wonder what Amnesty International thinks about the mess happening in Europe at the moment ??

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:46am: John Smith wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:45am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:35am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty by whom? UN (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home the fact that they don't is rather telling don't you think? Yes it is telling Australia is not cruel How about 'egregious'? "'Cruel, inhumane, degrading': Amnesty slams Australia's asylum policy" http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/06/15/cruel-inhumane-degrading-amnesty-slams-australias-asylum-policy

If the asylum applicants believe what Amnesty is saying then they are welcome to withdraw their application

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 12:31pm:

Any idea how many Australian laws have been changed to prevent refugees from taking any type of action and to prevent anyone who knows anything from being able to report it ?

Feel free to show us these laws

Once these illegals qualify as a refugee - it's still not too late to F#CK OFF

You seem to be excessively keen to keep embarrassing yourself with this silly topic.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:31pm: Any idea how many Australian laws have been changed to prevent refugees from taking any type of action and to prevent anyone who knows anything from being able to report it ? Feel free to show us these laws Once these illegals qualify as a refugee - it's still not too late to F#CK OFF

You've been misinformed.

Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

You seem to be excessively keen to keep embarrassing yourself with this silly topic.

And he's doing an extraordinarily good job.

The first thing he needs to do, is learn the difference between asylum seekers and illegals.

Otherwise, he's just going to keep making a dill of himself.

Can't remember the last time an asylum application was withdrawn by an applicant

If Australia is so cruel then they wouldn't want to come here

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:02pm:

Can't remember the last time an asylum application was withdrawn by an applicant If Australia is so cruel then they wouldn't want to come here

All that speaks to is how desperate they are to flee their home-land.

Own goal Maqqa.

mothra wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:20pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:02pm: Can't remember the last time an asylum application was withdrawn by an applicant If Australia is so cruel then they wouldn't want to come here All that speaks to is how desperate they are to flee their home-land. Own goal Maqqa.

Your admission is the own goal

We've seen accusations from the left about how Australia is causing them to self harm, suicide, rape concentration camp etc

But if these things are truly that bad to drive them to this point then we are treating them worser that where they come from

If we are treating them this bad then we should see 2 things
(1) Voluntary application for asylum to another country - permitted under Article 31 section 2 of the UN Refugee Convention
(2) Voluntary withdraw their application to go back to their own country

Clearly there's been no voluntary withdraw of application or a voluntary application to another country. This means the conditions in Australia is clearly to their liking

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:02pm:

If Australia is so cruel then they wouldn't want to come here

Australia is cruel, but not as bad as the places they have come from.

/thread.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 11:50pm: Let me get this right - if we treat asylum seekers like invading criminals we are being cruel under international law - so therefore if we are cruel we should not be extending asylum to anyone seeking it, since they should not be forced to accept our cruelty? OK........ Let me get it right for you (1) If we are cruel then we would have been prosecuted by now - therefore there's no cruelty (2) The illegals have a right to withdraw their application at any time and go home

(1) Under what law would Australia's government (as separate from its people - snuckle - now there's a rub) be prosecuted for cruel treatment of asylum seekers?

For Crimes Against Humanity?  That actually might wash if someone had the balls to put it up there... I'm sure Geoffrey Robertson would make a case at The Hague... hypothetically speaking.....

As Grigor said - a convention is not a Law and is not enforceable other than in conscience - and again - there's a rub with this government...

It seems gentlemen's agreements are anything but.. and once again - there's a rub in many ways and places here today....

(2) Ah, yes - but can we equally say that an asylum seeker is ENCOURAGED to continue his/her application when placed under the pressures that currently exist?  An application is, after all, only an application and is pending proof or acceptance of its genuine nature..... why then is so much effort expended in trying to get applicants to withdraw their application before the proof is put to the test?

If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim

A lot of people would say that it is better to fix the root of the problem.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:06am:

(1) Under what law would Australia's government (as separate from its people - snuckle - now there's a rub) be prosecuted for cruel treatment of asylum seekers? That would be the International Human Rights Law. UN Treaties. International Criminal Court oversea and enforce these laws For Crimes Against Humanity?  That actually might wash if someone had the balls to put it up there... I'm sure Geoffrey Robertson would make a case at The Hague... hypothetically speaking..... As Grigor said - a convention is not a Law and is not enforceable other than in conscience - and again - there's a rub with this government... It seems gentlemen's agreements are anything but.. and once again - there's a rub in many ways and places here today.... The Laws and Treaty I cited above are enforceable. Many have been prosecuted by it (2) Ah, yes - but can we equally say that an asylum seeker is ENCOURAGED to continue his/her application when placed under the pressures that currently exist?  An application is, after all, only an application and is pending proof or acceptance of its genuine nature..... why then is so much effort expended in trying to get applicants to withdraw their application before the proof is put to the test? So now there theory is they are co-erced into continuing with the application. Bogeyman under the bed. If so then they are no longer asylum seeking.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:40pm: We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime. They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country? So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!! You've been misinformed. Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

"Asylum" seekers may not be illegal

but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is

Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine....

they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means

if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane"

then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense....

then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey?

It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie.

I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished....

because you rise on the flimsiest of bait.

Gnads

Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:24am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:40pm: We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime. They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country? So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!! You've been misinformed. Asylum seekers aren't illegals. "Asylum" seekers may not be illegal but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine.... they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane" then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense.... then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey? It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie. I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished.... because you rise on the flimsiest of bait.

An interesting opinion.

Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion.

The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees.

You have opinions - I have facts.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:35am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 10:02pm: If Australia is so cruel then they wouldn't want to come here Australia is cruel, but not as bad as the places they have come from. /thread.

how do you KNOW THAT GWEG??..

a LUCKY guess maybe...

we know its a while since you were in SYRIA   especially one of the bigger camps.....

and we know none of those one boats being returned to Indonesia are from Syria.... ::) ::)... well let me say thats a lucky guess on my part... but the people smugglers dont seem to be sending them our way right now.....

so where are those on the boats from??????....

you  WHO know everything... ::) ::) ::)

how do you KNOW they are all living in danger..

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

n interesting opinion. Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion. The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees. You have opinions - I have fact

fantastic.... I have just asked that v ery thing...whew...

now for the FACTS...

cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

how do you KNOW they are all living in danger..

Fleeing persecution, dear.

You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you?

How do you know?

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you? How do you know?

The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are granted genuine refugee status.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:36pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you? How do you know? The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are granted genuine refugee status.

how do you know dear???

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you?

but how do YOU know???

monis was fleeing the LAW.. ::) ::)

just saying.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:57pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:24am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:40pm: We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime. They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country? So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!! You've been misinformed. Asylum seekers aren't illegals. "Asylum" seekers may not be illegal but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine.... they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane" then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense.... then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey? It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie. I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished.... because you rise on the flimsiest of bait. An interesting opinion. Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion. The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees. You have opinions - I have facts.

The very "fact" that you believe that

proves that that is just a popular opinion.

cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

monis was fleeing the LAW..

fleeing the law is not the same as fleeing persecution  :D :D :D :D :D

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:16pm: Gnads wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:57pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 8:24am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:40pm: We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime. They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country? So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!! You've been misinformed. Asylum seekers aren't illegals. "Asylum" seekers may not be illegal but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine.... they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane" then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense.... then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey? It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie. I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished.... because you rise on the flimsiest of bait. An interesting opinion. Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion. The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees. You have opinions - I have facts. The very "fact" that you believe that proves that that is just a popular opinion.

No, it's a fact.

Ask the government - they'll tell you.

The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat, are granted genuine refugee status. Indisputable fact.

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

cods wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:50pm: monis was fleeing the LAW.. fleeing the law is not the same as fleeing persecution  :D :D :D :D :D

cods doesn't understand the difference between two standard drinks, and twelve standard drinks.

Don't expect her to understand the difference between the law and persecution.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:14pm:

Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act

You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal.

In what way?

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal. In what way?

Do you think it clever to continually ask stupid questions when you obviously know the answer anyway.

The number of refugees that we have befouled for a start and look at supplying Sri Lanka with a ship to help them prevent refugees from escaping their persecution in the first place.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal. In what way? Do you think it clever to continually ask stupid questions when you obviously know the answer anyway. The number of refugees that we have befouled for a start and look at supplying Sri Lanka with a ship to help them prevent refugees from escaping their persecution in the first place.

This answer tells me you do not understand non-befoulment in context of the illegals and refugee debate

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:00pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal. In what way? Do you think it clever to continually ask stupid questions when you obviously know the answer anyway. The number of refugees that we have befouled for a start and look at supplying Sri Lanka with a ship to help them prevent refugees from escaping their persecution in the first place. This answer tells me you do not understand non-befoulment in context of the illegals and refugee debate

You have no idea what an illegal is.

Asylum seekers, for example, are not illegals.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

The number of refugees that we have befouled for a start and look at supplying Sri Lanka with a ship to help them prevent refugees from escaping their persecution in the first place.

Yes and lets examine that persecution shall we  ;D ...


Refugees go home for holidays

OTTAWA - A secret government survey reveals the majority of successful Tamil refugees travel back to Sri Lanka, raising questions about the legitimacy of their refugee status.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/08/21/15098766.html



Now we need to examine the real reason for the lefts head over heels love for the fake refugee and that reason is because the fake refugees are a pack of deceitful, scheming, kaniving cheats and liars and these are all qualities that the left love, admire and aspire too.

But that just throws up yet another question, why does the left have so much respect for cheats and liars?, well thats an easy answer too, the left are incapable of real success so they have a real contempt for others that are successful based on their own merit as these are characteristics no lefty possess, the left do not inhabit a level playing field.

So they feel that they must right natures wrong, the cruel blow that nature struck the left with, complete idiocy and its associated failure, has to be righted somehow, and it is righted by any means possible, anything go's, there are no rules, why would someone cursed with the idiocy that is leftism be at all concerned with rules.

So when that fake refugee sails over the horizon thereby avoiding all legal channels and it sneaks through the backdoor under false pretenses and it sets up shop on centrelink for life the left view that person as some sort of hero that has struck a blow against the winners system big time and that person should be worshiped by losers far and wide.

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 11:48pm:

Now we need to examine ...

... your butchering of the English language.

Did you graduate from year 10?  Seriously?

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:00pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal. In what way? Do you think it clever to continually ask stupid questions when you obviously know the answer anyway. The number of refugees that we have befouled for a start and look at supplying Sri Lanka with a ship to help them prevent refugees from escaping their persecution in the first place. This answer tells me you do not understand non-befoulment in context of the illegals and refugee debate

Yes that is right at your comprehension level understanding that our government directly befouling refugee claimants being relevant to non-befoulment is way beyond you.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 9:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:00pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:43pm: Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:24pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal. In what way? Do you think it clever to continually ask stupid questions when you obviously know the answer anyway. The number of refugees that we have befouled for a start and look at supplying Sri Lanka with a ship to help them prevent refugees from escaping their persecution in the first place. This answer tells me you do not understand non-befoulment in context of the illegals and refugee debate You have no idea what an illegal is. Asylum seekers, for example, are not illegals.

No but those claiming to be seeking asylum by deception certainly are .....

and when they hold no Visas, Passports or ID it is extremely difficult to determine genuine status

so that makes it TFH for our govt officials & they are given the benefit of the doubt.

The same strategies are being used by the hordes invading europe ...... except for the bits where they threaten countries who close their borders with death.

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Why aren't they rounding these cretins up and putting them on a chartered flight. I don't understand why the Europeans are acting like such wimps. Over civilised makes people spineless.

Well at least they have bought out their Military & put up razor wire.......

what do we do?

Just keep them coming.

Madness

Gnads wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:05am:

Well at least they have bought out their Military & put up razor wire....... what do we do? Just keep them coming. Madness

We don't let roaming gangs of illegal immigrants  run roughshot over our land. I've never seen anything like it.

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:05am: Well at least they have bought out their Military & put up razor wire....... what do we do? Just keep them coming. Madness We don't let roaming gangs of illegal immigrants  run roughshot over our land. I've never seen anything like it.

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Yet - you mean?....... what do you think the NSW Police Middle Eastern Crime Squad is about?

No other ethnic group has a specially dedicated Police Unit.

Gnads wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:07am: Gnads wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:05am: Well at least they have bought out their Military & put up razor wire....... what do we do? Just keep them coming. Madness We don't let roaming gangs of illegal immigrants  run roughshot over our land. I've never seen anything like it. e Yet - you mean?....... what do you think the NSW Police Middle Eastern Crime Squad is about? No other ethnic group has a specially dedicated Police Unit.

I suppose you are right.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:45am:

Yes that is right at your comprehension level understanding that our government directly befouling refugee claimants being relevant to non-befoulment is way beyond you.

You still don't have any understanding

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:16am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:45am: Yes that is right at your comprehension level understanding that our government directly befouling refugee claimants being relevant to non-befoulment is way beyond you. You still don't have any understanding

You are quite a glutton for punishment.

Do you have a sign to carry around.

But I'm sure you do

"Political correctness is about denial, usually in the weasel circumlocutory jargon which distorts and evades and seldom stands up to honest analysis."

Here's yours

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Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:16am: Dnarever wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:45am: Yes that is right at your comprehension level understanding that our government directly befouling refugee claimants being relevant to non-befoulment is way beyond you. You still don't have any understanding You are quite a glutton for punishment. Do you have a sign to carry around.

But you still don't understand and it's clear from the words you've used in this thread

So divert all you want - you still don't understand