Asylum seekers accused of smuggling millions of dollars worth of drugs into Australia

FOUR refugees who fled the Middle East for a safer life in Australia allegedly shipped millions of dollars of drugs into Sydney as part of a crime syndicate linked to an ex-Olympian.

Three of the former Iranian refugees now face indefinite detention if convicted and jailed for more than a year, because Iran will not take them back, meaning we have to keep them.

According to court documents, the plan was cooked up at the now-closed Malibu Lounge Cafe at Westfield Liverpool under the orders of the cafe’s chef and financier, Green Valley man Saeid Ghorbanpour, 34.

Former Australian Olympic boxer Anoushirvan Nourian, who was also to have represented Iran at the Sydney Olympics — only to be banned over steroids — has been charged along with Ghorbanpour over a second drug ­importation.

Three of the four refugees had moved to Liverpool after being ­accepted by Australia.

The fourth, who was living in Victoria on a protection visa, survived the December 2010 Christmas Island disaster in which 48 asylum seekers were killed when their boat smashed into rocks.

Despite the men originally fleeing the war-torn Middle East, the plan allegedly saw two of the refugees return there to organise a 90kg shipment of tea leaves laced with pseudoephedrine to be smuggled into Australia.

Arash Maleki and Omid Nourizad Eh Haris allegedly flew from Sydney to northern Iraq to arrange the shipment of drugs. Amin Maleki allegedly helped unpack the shipment at Storage King, Moorebank.

Authorities have requested the Christmas Island sinking survivor not be named for legal reasons and threats to his family in Iran.

He was allegedly ­recruited to put the shipment in his name and collect it from Port Botany.

Police allege the importation originated from “Iran, Iraq and Dubai” and was also “found to have links to the United Kingdom”, the court documents said.

The three refugees have been charged with ­numerous counts of supplying and possessing large commercial quantities of a prohibited drug.

However Arash Maleki fled Sydney on a flight to Dubai the day before police raided several Western Sydney addresses on August 15, 2014.

A warrant has been issued for his arrest.

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Peter Dutton said if the men were jailed for 12 months or more they would be deported under the government’s character test laws — but Iran does not accept deported people, meaning they would face indefinite detention.

In Central Local Court last Wednesday, former boxer Nourian pleaded guilty to conspiring to import a commercial quantity of pseudoephedrine into Australia between February 2014 and February 2015.

Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth.

He was set to box for Iran at the Sydney Olympics but was banned after testing positive for steroids.

Ghorbanpour was arrested on February 14, 2015. He was refused bail on November 5 and has pleaded not guilty to supplying a large commercial quantity of drugs.

He is facing charges in relation to a second importation of tea leaves laced with pseudoephedrine. He is listed to face Parramatta District Court on December 10 where he is expected to enter a plea to supplying a large commercial quantity of a border-controlled drug.

Police allege Ghorbanpour “was an active participant of an international criminal syndicate” that “not only imported a vast quantity” of ­illegal drugs, but also supplied them, according to documents tendered at his bail application.

He and the others were arrested following an investigation by the NSW Firearms and Organised Crime Squad known as Strike Force Crosswise.

Ghorbanpour allegedly gave Arash Maleki and Eh Haris $10,000 for their plane tickets to Iraq, the documents stated.

Police allege that at a meeting with Ghorbanpour at the Malibu Lounge in May 2014, one of the men had ­expressed fear about being searched at Sydney airport.

Ghorbanpour ­allegedly said “we have nothing to worry about because if we were under investigation we would have been ­arrested by now”, court documents stated.

The shipment arrived in Sydney in July 2014 disguised among 132 boxes containing 1.3 tonnes of tea.

THE PLAYERS

SAEID GHORBANPOUR

* Chef and had financial interest in Malibu Lounge at Westfield Liverpool

* Police allege he was a principal of the drug operation and a participant in an international crime syndicate that imported and then supplied the drug

* Police allege he was a chief in the operation that saw refugees to Australia mobilised in a pseudoephedrine smuggling syndicate

ANOUSHIRVAN NOURIAN

* Former Olympic boxer for Iran and then Australia.

* Thrown out of the Sydney 2000 Olympics when competing for Iran after testing positive to steroids prior to the opening of the Games

* Became a naturalised Australian in February 2004

* Competed for Australia in the 2004 Athens Olympics and was considered a medal prospect

* Knocked out in the second round of competition and finished 9th out of 27 competitors

AMIN MALEKI

* Came to Australia as a refugee from Iran

* Police allege he helped unpack jars containing pseudoephedrine laced tea leaves when they arrived in Sydney

Cont'd...

Cont'd...

ARASH MALEKI

* Brother of Amin

* Came to Australia as a refugee from Iran

* Police allege he flew to the Middle East to organise a shipment of pseudoephedrine laced tea leaves to be smuggled into Australia

* Fled Australia before police made arrests

* Still at large with a warrant out for his arrest

THIRD REFUGEE

* Police allege he was recruited to pick up the shipment of pseudo once it arrived in Sydney

* Came to Australia from Iran in 2010 as an asylum seeker and was placed on a protection visa and settled in Victoria.

* Was a survivor of the Christmas Island asylum seeker boat disaster where 48 people were killed

OMID NOURIZAD EH HARIS

* Allegedly organised the shipment

* Flew to Iraq

* Refugee from Iran

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/drug-mule-refugees-asylum-seekers-accused-of-smuggling-millions-of-dollars-worth-of-drugs-into-australia/story-fni0cx12-1227626880249

Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:09am:

Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you.

Aussie welterweight goes down in Athens
20 Aug 2004
Australian boxer Anoushirvan Nourian has lost his round of 16 bout of the welterweight (64kg) competition in Athens overnight.

The Iranian-born Nourian, who became an Australian citizen earlier this year, was beaten by Italian Michele di Rocco 33 points to 25.

He had been ranked fourth in the world going into the Olympic competition.

In other results, Willy Blain of France defeated Alexander Maletin of Russia (28-20), Ionut Gheorghe of Romania beat Turkey's Mustafa Karagollu (28-19) and Boris Georgiev of Bulgaria downed Rock Allen of the United States (30-10).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-08-20/aussie-welterweight-goes-down-in-athens/2029654

Re-writing history A.P?

____ wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you. Aussie welterweight goes down in Athens 20 Aug 2004 Australian boxer Anoushirvan Nourian has lost his round of 16 bout of the welterweight (64kg) competition in Athens overnight. The Iranian-born Nourian, who became an Australian citizen earlier this year, was beaten by Italian Michele di Rocco 33 points to 25. He had been ranked fourth in the world going into the Olympic competition. In other results, Willy Blain of France defeated Alexander Maletin of Russia (28-20), Ionut Gheorghe of Romania beat Turkey's Mustafa Karagollu (28-19) and Boris Georgiev of Bulgaria downed Rock Allen of the United States (30-10). http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-08-20/aussie-welterweight-goes-down-in-athens/2029654 Re-writing history A.P?

True. The Greens are just as much to blame as Labor - they did after all vote with Labor on dismantling the Pacific Solution.

So if one came in under Howard, did others?


And I thought conservatives here said refugees came in and sucked off welfare. These ones are showing entrepreneur skills, and A.P knocks them for it.

Now these people will likely be locked up forever at everyone's cost.

____ wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

So if one came in under Howard, did others? And I thought conservatives here said refugees came in and sucked off welfare. These ones are showing entrepreneur skills, and A.P knocks them for it. Now these people will likely be locked up forever at everyone's cost.

You call drug smuggling "entrepreneurial"? What is wrong with you?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

____ wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:39am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you. Aussie welterweight goes down in Athens 20 Aug 2004 Australian boxer Anoushirvan Nourian has lost his round of 16 bout of the welterweight (64kg) competition in Athens overnight. The Iranian-born Nourian, who became an Australian citizen earlier this year, was beaten by Italian Michele di Rocco 33 points to 25. He had been ranked fourth in the world going into the Olympic competition. In other results, Willy Blain of France defeated Alexander Maletin of Russia (28-20), Ionut Gheorghe of Romania beat Turkey's Mustafa Karagollu (28-19) and Boris Georgiev of Bulgaria downed Rock Allen of the United States (30-10). http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-08-20/aussie-welterweight-goes-down-in-athens/2029654 Re-writing history A.P? True. The Greens are just as much to blame as Labor - they did after all vote with Labor on dismantling the Pacific Solution.

So did the Libs.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 8:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:53am: ____ wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:39am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you. Aussie welterweight goes down in Athens 20 Aug 2004 Australian boxer Anoushirvan Nourian has lost his round of 16 bout of the welterweight (64kg) competition in Athens overnight. The Iranian-born Nourian, who became an Australian citizen earlier this year, was beaten by Italian Michele di Rocco 33 points to 25. He had been ranked fourth in the world going into the Olympic competition. In other results, Willy Blain of France defeated Alexander Maletin of Russia (28-20), Ionut Gheorghe of Romania beat Turkey's Mustafa Karagollu (28-19) and Boris Georgiev of Bulgaria downed Rock Allen of the United States (30-10). http://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-08-20/aussie-welterweight-goes-down-in-athens/2029654 Re-writing history A.P? True. The Greens are just as much to blame as Labor - they did after all vote with Labor on dismantling the Pacific Solution. So did the Libs.

BUZZ!!! Wrong again!!! The Coalition voted AGAINST dismantling the Pacific Solution.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:09am:

Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers.

Do they have previous convictions for drug smuggling?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. Do they have previous convictions for drug smuggling?

No one knows because they destroy anything that can identify them.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 8:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 8:47am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. Do they have previous convictions for drug smuggling? No one knows because they destroy anything that can identify them.

Do you have any evidence that proves these men destroyed anything that could identify them? No.

So, you can't honestly say that "Labor let in a bunch of drug smugglers".

They let in some refugees, who have now been accused of committing a crime.

Not much of a story here.

ap.. I refuse to JUDGE all by the few...I really do.. it is this type who give ev eryone a bad name..

we read where the Paris murderers took drugs before the event....so maybe that how ISIS bribes their bombers to do the despicable.....we dont get close enough to see their eyes do we??>.

did we cheer on the OLYMPIC boxer by any chance????...

was he one of our HEROs.. ::) ::)

how many ex OLYMPIANS have been charged the same AP....... all HEROS at one stage... >:( >:(

do we judge all OLYMPIANS the same?.

What a joke. Thanks for the scum do-gooders.

From article- Despite the men originally fleeing the war-torn Middle East, the plan allegedly saw two of the refugees return there to organise a 90kg shipment of tea leaves laced with pseudoephedrine to be smuggled into Australia.


They were so scared they returned???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You do-gooders are absolute suckers and chumps. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Iranian refugee drug smugglers


Quote:

Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you.

Armchair_Politician,

You are showing your Islamophobia.

You know very well, that you shouldn't confect, that where people come from, could or would have any bearing upon their criminal tendencies!

Moslems don't do crime.

.......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems.

Yadda wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:34am:

Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems.

gandalf will confirm this.

Moslems ?

Lovely people.

Purer than the driven snow!

And don't let anyone tell you anything different!


eh, Karnal, greg ?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:09am:

Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you.

most came in under howard you more on.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you. most came in under howard you more on.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

;D ;D ;D Fake reffos under Labor- 385 in 2008, 3,230 in 2009, 3,905 in 2010, 4,052 in 2011, 7,218 in 2012 and 8,332 in 2013. More under Howard. Stop sniffing ajax Smith.

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you. most came in under howard you more on.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Fake reffos under Labor- 385 in 2008, 3,230 in 2009, 3,905 in 2010, 4,052 in 2011, 7,218 in 2012 and 8,332 in 2013. More under Howard. Stop sniffing ajax Smith.

I'm talking about the drug smugglers in the OP you farrk witt

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:49am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:48am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:43am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:09am: Well done, Labor. You've let in a bunch of drug smugglers. How very "humanitarian" of you. most came in under howard you more on.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Fake reffos under Labor- 385 in 2008, 3,230 in 2009, 3,905 in 2010, 4,052 in 2011, 7,218 in 2012 and 8,332 in 2013. More under Howard. Stop sniffing ajax Smith. I'm talking about the drug smugglers in the OP you farrk witt

So you can prove that comment  spastic? :-?

More drug smugglers came in as refugees under John Howard?? What sort of dummy makes comments that are just rubbish and can't be proven?? Oh I know, John Smith. Derrrrrr!!!

QUESTION;
Can't we bring back public executions, for such heinous crimes ?

What is the heinous crime ?



THIS HEINOUS CRIME;
---------- >
The rank betrayal of the trust of the Australian people.

A trust, which was extended by the Australian community, to persons who presented themselves to us, as those claimed they had an affection for Australia [and its people], and who simply wanted a safe place to live,
"...i just want somewhere to be safe.".



I'm speaking of the public execution, of these rank betrayers,        ....not of Karnal and greg.          >:(

They made it to Australia and had it made for the rest of their lives. Now they are headed for a life sentence on Nauru. How stupid are these people??

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

They made it to Australia and had it made for the rest of their lives. Now they are headed for a life sentence on Nauru. How stupid are these people??

I want to see such people garrotted or hanged, publicly, in Australia.

For the reasons as per stated, in post #22.

Yadda wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:01am: They made it to Australia and had it made for the rest of their lives. Now they are headed for a life sentence on Nauru. How stupid are these people?? I want to see such people garrotted or hanged, publicly, in Australia. For the reasons as per stated, in post #22.

Don't worry Yadda , what's coming their way is worse. It's either mosquitos, heat and Nauru razor wire or back home. I'd rather be dead if I was in their shoes.

Yadda wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:34am: Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems. gandalf will confirm this. Moslems ? Lovely people. Purer than the driven snow! And don't let anyone tell you anything different! eh, Karnal, greg ?

Their religion is completely irrelevant.

Sounds like you're making excuses for these alleged criminals.

Are you an apologist?

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:09am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:06am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:01am: They made it to Australia and had it made for the rest of their lives. Now they are headed for a life sentence on Nauru. How stupid are these people?? I want to see such people garrotted or hanged, publicly, in Australia. For the reasons as per stated, in post #22. Don't worry Yadda , what's coming their way is worse. It's either mosquitos, heat and Nauru razor wire or back home. I'd rather be dead if I was in their shoes.

double plus good,

Yes, you are right,     .....you have convinced me.

A public execution, in Australia, would be much more merciful for such people.

Lets do it!



Yadda said......

Quote:

I want to see such people garrotted or hanged, publicly, in Australia. For the reasons as per stated, in post #22.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:42am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:34am: Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems. gandalf will confirm this. Moslems ? Lovely people. Purer than the driven snow! And don't let anyone tell you anything different! eh, Karnal, greg ? Their religion is completely irrelevant. Sounds like you're making excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist?

Yes, it is completely irrelevant.

Lets do it!



Yadda said......

Quote:

I want to see such people garrotted or hanged, publicly, in Australia. For the reasons as per stated, in post #22.

Yadda wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:10am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:42am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:34am: Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems. gandalf will confirm this. Moslems ? Lovely people. Purer than the driven snow! And don't let anyone tell you anything different! eh, Karnal, greg ? Their religion is completely irrelevant. Sounds like you're making excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? Yes, it is completely irrelevant.

Then why did you mention it?

Has your Islamophobia become an obsession?

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:07am:

Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth.

he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time??

If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:18am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:10am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:42am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:34am: Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems. gandalf will confirm this. Moslems ? Lovely people. Purer than the driven snow! And don't let anyone tell you anything different! eh, Karnal, greg ? Their religion is completely irrelevant. Sounds like you're making excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? Yes, it is completely irrelevant. Then why did you mention it? Has your Islamophobia become an obsession?

That's a rhetorical question, right?

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 9:55am:

More drug smugglers came in as refugees under John Howard?? What sort of dummy makes comments that are just rubbish and can't be proven?? Oh I know, John Smith. Derrrrrr!!!

are you hungover or something?  ::) ::) ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:18am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:10am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:42am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:34am: Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems. gandalf will confirm this. Moslems ? Lovely people. Purer than the driven snow! And don't let anyone tell you anything different! eh, Karnal, greg ? Their religion is completely irrelevant. Sounds like you're making excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? Yes, it is completely irrelevant. Then why did you mention it? Has your Islamophobia become an obsession?

Yes greggery.

In all of my waking moments, i find myself totally obsessed with my thoughts of Islamophobia.

Can't you tell ?

I wet myself, every time i bring to mind, the prospect of confronting gandalf, here on OzPol.       !!!!!!




I must not fear.
Fear is the mind killer.
The little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to passover me and through me.
And when it has gone passed, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
- DUNE

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:55am: More drug smugglers came in as refugees under John Howard?? What sort of dummy makes comments that are just rubbish and can't be proven?? Oh I know, John Smith. Derrrrrr!!! are you hungover or something?  ::) ::) ::)

All I want you to do is prove your comment.

Yadda wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:24am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:18am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:10am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:42am: Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:34am: Moslems don't do crime. .......such people are only moslem impersonators, not real moslems. gandalf will confirm this. Moslems ? Lovely people. Purer than the driven snow! And don't let anyone tell you anything different! eh, Karnal, greg ? Their religion is completely irrelevant. Sounds like you're making excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? Yes, it is completely irrelevant. Then why did you mention it? Has your Islamophobia become an obsession? Yes greggery. In all of my waking moments, i find myself totally obsessed with my thoughts of Islamophobia. Can't you tell ?

Yes, I can tell.

Bringing religion into this thread proves it beyond all doubt.

Yadda wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

I wet myself, every time i bring to mind, the prospect of confronting gandalf, here on OzPol.       !!!!!! I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. The little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to passover me and through me. And when it has gone passed, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - DUNE

I wet myself, every time i bring to mind, the prospect of confronting gandalf,      .....here on OzPol.       !!!!!!


I wet myself, every time i bring to mind, the prospect of being forced to confront gandalf,      .....here on OzPol.       !!!!!!

Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3  He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

Remember as at 2013 - the LIB was still cleaning up the 55,000 illegal mess that Labor left us.

We are still cleaning up their mess today but at least only 1 boat arrived under our shift

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out.

Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty????

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:28am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out. Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty????

Who cares?

It sounds to me like you're trying to make excuses for these alleged criminals.

Are you an apologist?

How about we blame these individuals for their alleged actions, and not some third party?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:49am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:28am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out. Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty???? Who cares? It sounds to me like you're trying to make excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? How about we blame these individuals for their alleged actions, and not some third party?

People like you should be apologising. They forced their way into our country on a flawed screening process and in return had no problem saturating our society with drugs. Is that the thanks we get? How many more  cretins have come into our country this way?? I'd hate to imagine. Dumb do-gooding leftards.

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:53am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:49am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:28am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out. Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty???? Who cares? It sounds to me like you're trying to make excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? How about we blame these individuals for their alleged actions, and not some third party? People like you should be apologising. They forced their way into our country on a flawed screening process and in return had no problem saturating our society with drugs. Is that the thanks we get? How many more  cretins have come into our country this way?? I'd hate to imagine. Dumb do-gooding leftards.

I'm not making excuses or apologising for anyone.

It's you, and others on the right, who always try to lay the blame somewhere else.

You never blame the individual.

"It's Islam's fault".

"It's Labor's fault".

"It's the do-gooder's fault".

Always excuses.  Every single time.

You're all apologists, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

If these men are eventually convicted of a crime, I blame them 100% for their actions.

I'm sure you and your ilk will try to find another scapegoat, though.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:53am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:49am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:28am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out. Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty???? Who cares? It sounds to me like you're trying to make excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? How about we blame these individuals for their alleged actions, and not some third party? People like you should be apologising. They forced their way into our country on a flawed screening process and in return had no problem saturating our society with drugs. Is that the thanks we get? How many more  cretins have come into our country this way?? I'd hate to imagine. Dumb do-gooding leftards. I'm not making excuses or apologising for anyone. It's you, and others on the right, who always try to lay the blame somewhere else. You never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Always excuses.  Every single time. You're all apologists, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. If these men are eventually convicted of a crime, I blame them 100% for their actions. I'm sure you and your ilk will try to find another scapegoat, though.

Mate the whole people smuggling fiasco is a fa rking mess. What do you expect??

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:03am:

Mate the whole people smuggling fiasco is a fa rking mess. What do you expect??

There we go.

Now it's "the people smugglers' fault".

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:53am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:49am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:28am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out. Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty???? Who cares? It sounds to me like you're trying to make excuses for these alleged criminals. Are you an apologist? How about we blame these individuals for their alleged actions, and not some third party? People like you should be apologising. They forced their way into our country on a flawed screening process and in return had no problem saturating our society with drugs. Is that the thanks we get? How many more  cretins have come into our country this way?? I'd hate to imagine. Dumb do-gooding leftards. I'm not making excuses or apologising for anyone. It's you, and others on the right, who always try to lay the blame somewhere else. You never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Always excuses.  Every single time. You're all apologists, and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. If these men are eventually convicted of a crime, I blame them 100% for their actions. I'm sure you and your ilk will try to find another scapegoat, though.

Howard stopped people smuggling. Rudd backed by a bunch of retarded leftards started it up again and as a result we've had drownings, crime, terrorism, diplomatic crisis, riots, protests, Navy people injured plus billions upon billions of dollars down the drain etc etc. Who else do you want me to blame??? :-? 

..

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:09am:

Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?

The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes.

I'm sorry but I have real issues with Labor's screening processes. They let anybody in without knowing who they were or their basic character.

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:12am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes. I'm sorry but I have real issues with Labor's screening processes. They let anybody in without knowing who they were or their basic character.

Can't bring yourself to blame the individuals, can you?

You'll go on forever and a day being their apologist.

So be it.

So then, do the men accused of these crimes have prior convictions?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:17am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:12am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes. I'm sorry but I have real issues with Labor's screening processes. They let anybody in without knowing who they were or their basic character. Can't bring yourself to blame the individuals, can you? You'll go on forever and a day being their apologist. So be it. So then, do the men accused of these crimes have prior convictions?

I'll blame individual then. The idiots in the Labor Party and Greens who were instrumental in creating this ongoing mess.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:12am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes.

Who are Islamic
Who are Iranians

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:12am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes. Who are Islamic Who are Iranians

How is that relevant?

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:19am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:17am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:12am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes. I'm sorry but I have real issues with Labor's screening processes. They let anybody in without knowing who they were or their basic character. Can't bring yourself to blame the individuals, can you? You'll go on forever and a day being their apologist. So be it. So then, do the men accused of these crimes have prior convictions? I'll blame individual then. The idiots in the Labor Party and Greens who were instrumental in creating this ongoing mess.

You'll be an apologist for criminals (and alleged criminals) until the day you die.

I don't know how you live with yourself.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:31am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:12am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes. Who are Islamic Who are Iranians How is that relevant?

To paraphrase you "It's irrelevant"

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:31am: Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:12am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:09am: Who else do you want me to blame??? :-?  The individuals accused of the alleged drug smuggling crimes. Who are Islamic Who are Iranians How is that relevant? To paraphrase you "It's irrelevant"

Why did you mention it?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault".

Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals, it's just like when a lone loon went crazy and shot up taswegia. Every single gun own was held to account for the actions of one individual. And it has worked out excellently according to you socialists.

Now this is how Australia operates. Find one, blame the lot. Welcome to the brave new world.  :) :) :)

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals ...

Criminals come from all walks of life.

Using your "logic", we'll need to start targeting the following groups:

- whites
- blacks
- Hispanics
- Christians
- Muslims
- Buddhists
- bipeds
- people with blue eyes
- Liberal Party members
- Labor Party members
- women
- men
- transsexuals
- horse owners
- old people
- young people
- etc.

You'd better get onto it, quick smart.

double plus good wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 10:28am: double plus good wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 9:51am: So you can prove that comment  spastic? Huh Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:07am: Nourian, 43, of Guildford, was a medal hope for Australia at the 2004 Athens Olympics in the light welterweight division. He came ninth. he can't represent Australia if he's not a citizen dopey ... and since he tried to represent Iran in the 2000 olympics, he became a citizen between 2000 and 2004 . Who was in govt. during that time?? If you get stuck looking for an answer, ask and I'll help you out. Now you've changed the question. Doesn't matter, I'll go with it. One is a survivor from the Christmas island tragedy ( when the boat smashed on rocks). Do you know what government that happened under numpty????

I didn't change any question .. my original comment was in response to armpits comment that they (in the OP) were  granted asylum by labor ... if you are going to jump in on a comment, it might be a good idea to read what I am replying to.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals ... Criminals come from all walks of life. Using your "logic", we'll need to start targeting the following groups: - whites - blacks - Hispanics - Christians - Muslims - Buddhists - bipeds - people with blue eyes - Liberal Party members - Labor Party members - women - men - transsexuals - horse owners - old people - young people - etc. You'd better get onto it, quick smart.

It is the australian way, find an individual who commits a crime, target an an entire group; a process that has worked well for the anti - gun hysterics. And a process that has your endorsement I believe.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals ... Criminals come from all walks of life. Using your "logic", we'll need to start targeting the following groups: - whites - blacks - Hispanics - Christians - Muslims - Buddhists - bipeds - people with blue eyes - Liberal Party members - Labor Party members - women - men - transsexuals - horse owners - old people - young people - etc. You'd better get onto it, quick smart. It is the australian way, find an individual who commits a crime, target an an entire group; a process that has worked well for the anti - gun hysterics. And a process that has your endorsement I believe.

Nope.

It doesn't have my endorsement.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

Criminals come from all walks of life.

And the last 20 suicide bombers - what's the common link?

Muslims

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:58am: Criminals come from all walks of life. And the last 20 suicide bombers - what's the common link?

Bipeds.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

what's the common link?

drugs
social outcasts
revenge
psychotic



take your pick

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 6:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals ... Criminals come from all walks of life. Using your "logic", we'll need to start targeting the following groups: - whites - blacks - Hispanics - Christians - Muslims - Buddhists - bipeds - people with blue eyes - Liberal Party members - Labor Party members - women - men - transsexuals - horse owners - old people - young people - etc. You'd better get onto it, quick smart. It is the australian way, find an individual who commits a crime, target an an entire group; a process that has worked well for the anti - gun hysterics. And a process that has your endorsement I believe. Nope. It doesn't have my endorsement.

Good to see that you are anti-gun control, if only when it suits your current argument.

Hypocrite

John Smith wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:03pm: what's the common link? drugs social outcasts revenge psychotic take your pick

Maybe the fact that they scream 'allah akbar' just before committing their atrocities might be the answer you are looking for. That is what binds this little group of adventurers. And many like them.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 5:15am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:07pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:03pm: what's the common link? drugs social outcasts revenge psychotic take your pick Maybe the fact that they scream 'allah akbar' just before committing their atrocities might be the answer you are looking for. That is what binds this little group of adventurers. And many like them.

My wife screams 'oh god' during sex too .... and she's not religious.

Armpits fallacy: refugees must all be drug smugglers.  Australian drug smugglers exist too. Let's just deport all Australians.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 5:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 6:01pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 5:55pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals ... Criminals come from all walks of life. Using your "logic", we'll need to start targeting the following groups: - whites - blacks - Hispanics - Christians - Muslims - Buddhists - bipeds - people with blue eyes - Liberal Party members - Labor Party members - women - men - transsexuals - horse owners - old people - young people - etc. You'd better get onto it, quick smart. It is the australian way, find an individual who commits a crime, target an an entire group; a process that has worked well for the anti - gun hysterics. And a process that has your endorsement I believe. Nope. It doesn't have my endorsement. Good to see that you are anti-gun control, if only when it suits your current argument.

I'm pro gun control.

Very strict gun control.

John Smith wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:36am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 5:15am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:07pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:03pm: what's the common link? drugs social outcasts revenge psychotic take your pick Maybe the fact that they scream 'allah akbar' just before committing their atrocities might be the answer you are looking for. That is what binds this little group of adventurers. And many like them. My wife screams 'oh god' during sex too .... and she's not religious.

' oh god'  have you finshed already "AGAIN"  little boy

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

aussie100percent wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 9:05am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:36am: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 5:15am: John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:07pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:03pm: what's the common link? drugs social outcasts revenge psychotic take your pick Maybe the fact that they scream 'allah akbar' just before committing their atrocities might be the answer you are looking for. That is what binds this little group of adventurers. And many like them. My wife screams 'oh god' during sex too .... and she's not religious. ' oh god'  have you finshed already "AGAIN"  little boy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

no, that's what you wife said to me.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:46am:

I'm pro gun control. Very strict gun control.

Yeah, me too.




And my question is, that;

If firearms are so dangerous [AND THEY ARE!], then,     ....why are so many firearms seen on the hips of so many people who are walking on our streets ?

My argument is, that because firearms are very dangerous, all of these people, are a danger to themselves, and to other citizens.

And for the sake of public safety, these firearms should be removed from our community.





IMAGE...
http://www.qoledge.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/australian-police.jpg

These people must be disarmed!!! Firearms are just too dangerous, to be so readily accessible to potential criminals [which each one of these people are!].



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IMAGE...
http://www.novinite.com/media/images/2009-08/photo_verybig_106471.jpg

These people must be disarmed!!! Firearms are just too dangerous, to be so readily accessible to potential criminals [which each one of these people are!].



.



IMAGE...
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/04/08/1226877/813354-ce3dcd8a-beca-11e3-ae1a-c0e605d906a7.jpg

These people must be disarmed!!! Firearms are just too dangerous, to be so readily accessible to potential criminals [which each one of these people are!].



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IMAGE...
http://images.enca.com/enca/Australia%20police.jpg

These people must be disarmed!!! Firearms are just too dangerous, to be so readily accessible to potential criminals [which each one of these people are!].





ARGUMENT;
Going by the criminal charges that have frequently been brought against many people who wear these uniforms, it is reasonable to conclude that many of these persons [who wear these uniforms] are,     .....potential rapists, child molesters, and wana-be-drug barons.

Should our government be allowing people like these [potential criminals], to have access to very dangerous firearms, willy-nilly ?

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals, it's just like when a lone loon went crazy and shot up taswegia. Every single gun own was held to account for the actions of one individual. And it has worked out excellently according to you socialists. Now this is how Australia operates. Find one, blame the lot. Welcome to the brave new world.  :) :) :)

Peccahead is happy to treat every licensed firearm owner who has passed background checks for criminal record and mental health as a potential terrorist despite the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety.

Like most leftards in this forum he is an unemployable hypocrite.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:02am:

... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety.

What an absolutely ridiculous statement.

There's no way anybody can know that for sure.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:13am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement.

You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license.

What is ridiculous  is your irrational fear of firearms, you should seek psychiatric help for your hoplophobia

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:58am: Criminals come from all walks of life. And the last 20 suicide bombers - what's the common link? Bipeds.

Yea, Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license.

There is no way of knowing if the person will be a danger to society after they're granted a firearm licence.

No way at all.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:27am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. There is no way of knowing if the person will be a danger to society after they're granted a firearm licence. No way at all.

Is that why you think it's ok to vilify licensed firearm owners?

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:02am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals, it's just like when a lone loon went crazy and shot up taswegia. Every single gun own was held to account for the actions of one individual. And it has worked out excellently according to you socialists. Now this is how Australia operates. Find one, blame the lot. Welcome to the brave new world.  :) :) :) Peccahead is happy to treat every licensed firearm owner who has passed background checks for criminal record and mental health as a potential terrorist despite the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. Like most leftards in this forum he is an unemployable hypocrite.

Is that the same as pekker being a fugwit  ;) ;) ;)

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:27am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. There is no way of knowing if the person will be a danger to society after they're granted a firearm licence. No way at all. Is that why you think it's ok to vilify licensed firearm owners?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:30am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:29am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:27am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. There is no way of knowing if the person will be a danger to society after they're granted a firearm licence. No way at all. Is that why you think it's ok to vilify licensed firearm owners? Have you stopped beating your wife?

Peccahead sticks up for muslims who bash their wives.

Allah says wife bashing is halal right here-
www.quran.com/4/34

Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:05pm: Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:03pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:58am: Criminals come from all walks of life. And the last 20 suicide bombers - what's the common link? Bipeds. Yea, Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

You're the only person saying that, Sore End.

Islam is certainly a motivator, however, it's no excuse for their behaviour.

Some people are apologists for murderers, and some people are not.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:27am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. There is no way of knowing if the person will be a danger to society after they're granted a firearm licence. No way at all.

Just like there is no way of knowing if some muslim posing as a reffo will turn out to be a terrorist. But you love one and hate the other. Why is that?

Stop being a hypocrite you embrace embrace individual innocence or group guilt, you can't have it both ways.


Since group guilt is well entrenched with the leftards, Im more than hay to spread the 'love' to the mussie scum.  :) :)

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:13am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. There's no way anybody can know that for sure.

Same with every single muslim and their potential for terrorism.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:27am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. There is no way of knowing if the person will be a danger to society after they're granted a firearm licence. No way at all. Just like there is no way of knowing if some muslim posing as a reffo will turn out to be a terrorist.

Correct.

Just as there is no way of knowing if someone who flies in as a migrant, and isn't a Muslim, will turn out to be a terrorist in the future.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. There's no way anybody can know that for sure. Same with every single muslim and their potential for terrorism.

Same with every single non-Muslim, and their potential for terrorism.

aussie100percent wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:30am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:47am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 11:02am: Never blame the individual. "It's Islam's fault". "It's Labor's fault". "It's the do-gooder's fault". Now you're understanding the situation, target the groups to weed out the individuals, it's just like when a lone loon went crazy and shot up taswegia. Every single gun own was held to account for the actions of one individual. And it has worked out excellently according to you socialists. Now this is how Australia operates. Find one, blame the lot. Welcome to the brave new world.  :) :) :) Peccahead is happy to treat every licensed firearm owner who has passed background checks for criminal record and mental health as a potential terrorist despite the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. Like most leftards in this forum he is an unemployable hypocrite. Is that the same as pekker being a fugwit  ;) ;) ;)

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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. What is ridiculous  is your irrational fear of firearms, you should seek psychiatric help for your hoplophobia

oh I dont like guns either....not much chance with a gun I am told.. and all they do is blow a hole in something...I wouldnt trust that law thats for sure..

people lose things baron get them stolen  even sell them without care....guns are a no no as far as I am concerned.. unless you need them for protection like a farmer....who need to protect his animals and crops..

otherwise....live like all those who do not have a need to won a gun... it isnt that hard.

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. What is ridiculous  is your irrational fear of firearms, you should seek psychiatric help for your hoplophobia oh I dont like guns either....not much chance with a gun I am told.. and all they do is blow a hole in something...I wouldnt trust that law thats for sure.. people lose things baron get them stolen  even sell them without care....guns are a no no as far as I am concerned.. unless you need them for protection like a farmer....who need to protect his animals and crops.. otherwise....live like all those who do not have a need to won a gun... it isnt that hard.

An excellent post from cods.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:20pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. There's no way anybody can know that for sure. Same with every single muslim and their potential for terrorism. Same with every single non-Muslim, and their potential for terrorism.

Absolutely, that is what have embraced in this country. We started with gun owners, and now we are on mussies.

It is the Australian way, blame everyone associated within a recognised group.


So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person, don't be the hypocrite that you have always been. Embrace the new world order, this is what you and johnny howard always wanted.


All gun owners are potential murderers and all mussies are potential terrorists. Legislate against mussies just like we did with gun owners.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:20pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. There's no way anybody can know that for sure. Same with every single muslim and their potential for terrorism. Same with every single non-Muslim, and their potential for terrorism. Absolutely, that is what have embraced in this country. We started with gun owners, and now we are on mussies. It is the Australian way, blame everyone associated within a recognised group. So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person, don't be the hypocrite that you have always been. Embrace the new world order, this is what you and johnny howard always wanted. All gun owners are potential murderers and all mussies are potential terrorists. Legislate against mussies just like we did with gun owners.

That logic doesn't even come close to following.

There is only one purpose for a gun. There are many factors in being a Muslim.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ...

What?

mothra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:47pm:

That logic doesn't even come close to following.

"logic"?

I missed that bit.

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:20am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:13am: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:02am: ... the Commissioner of Police saying licensed firearm owners are no danger to public safety. What an absolutely ridiculous statement. You should read the firearms act peccahead it mentions the police commissioner has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before granting a firearm license. What is ridiculous  is your irrational fear of firearms, you should seek psychiatric help for your hoplophobia oh I dont like guns either....not much chance with a gun I am told.. and all they do is blow a hole in something...I wouldnt trust that law thats for sure.. people lose things baron get them stolen  even sell them without care....guns are a no no as far as I am concerned.. unless you need them for protection like a farmer....who need to protect his animals and crops.. otherwise....live like all those who do not have a need to won a gun... it isnt that hard.

A good behaviour bond even with no conviction recorded for any offence results in loss of firearms licence Cods, all my gun owning friends and family are very well behaved

If you lose a gun or it's stolen you can be charged with fail to prevent the loss or theft of a firearm which is a serious offence, a Victorian MP nearly brought down that government when a minister had semi auto rimfire stolen from a farm.

According to the firearms act you need a genuine reason to own a gun, self defence is not a genuine reason to own firearms.

Target shooting is an Olympic sport, the Oceania shooting championships are on,how many grey haired women have guns in this website Cods
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greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:48pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What?

One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime.

It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:51pm:

... all my gun owning friends and family are very well behaved

I'm sure they are.

However, there's no guarantee that they will remain that way.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What? One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime. It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D

And?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:51pm: ... all my gun owning friends and family are very well behaved I'm sure they are. However, there's no guarantee that they will remain that way.

What do they want guns for anyway?

mothra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:51pm: ... all my gun owning friends and family are very well behaved I'm sure they are. However, there's no guarantee that they will remain that way. What do they want guns for anyway?

To protect themselves from Baronvonrort?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:51pm: ... all my gun owning friends and family are very well behaved I'm sure they are. However, there's no guarantee that they will remain that way. What do they want guns for anyway? To protect themselves from Baronvonrort?

This is how wars start,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXEI3AzI-es

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What? One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime. It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D And?

You surely think that is the greatest legislation ever, having the government target a specific group for no other reason that a single person committed a crime. One that was not even considered part of that group. Just some retard with money and an attitude.

We have done it once and every soft cock lefty loved it, why can't we do this for all groups that may pose a risk to anyone or not. lets's start with the group that poses the most risk based on the actions of a few.

Come on it is the best way of doing things in this country. No need to commit a crime, to be treated like a criminal, just need to be art of the target group. It's perfect

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What? One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime. It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D And? You surely think that is the greatest legislation ever, having the government target a specific group for no other reason that a single person committed a crime. One that was not even considered part of that group. Just some retard with money and an attitude. We have done it once and every soft cock lefty loved it, why can't we do this for all groups that may pose a risk to anyone or not. lets's start with the group that poses the most risk based on the actions of a few. Come on it is the best way of doing things in this country. No need to commit a crime, to be treated like a criminal, just need to be art of the target group. It's perfect

You are equating a person's loss of an unnecessary gun with a person's rights not to be persecuted.

It's preposterous logic.

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What? One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime. It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D And? You surely think that is the greatest legislation ever, having the government target a specific group for no other reason that a single person committed a crime. One that was not even considered part of that group. Just some retard with money and an attitude. We have done it once and every soft cock lefty loved it, why can't we do this for all groups that may pose a risk to anyone or not. lets's start with the group that poses the most risk based on the actions of a few. Come on it is the best way of doing things in this country. No need to commit a crime, to be treated like a criminal, just need to be art of the target group. It's perfect

Less guns in the hands of people like you and Baronvonrort.

This is a good thing.

mothra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What? One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime. It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D And? You surely think that is the greatest legislation ever, having the government target a specific group for no other reason that a single person committed a crime. One that was not even considered part of that group. Just some retard with money and an attitude. We have done it once and every soft cock lefty loved it, why can't we do this for all groups that may pose a risk to anyone or not. lets's start with the group that poses the most risk based on the actions of a few. Come on it is the best way of doing things in this country. No need to commit a crime, to be treated like a criminal, just need to be art of the target group. It's perfect You are equating a person's loss of an unnecessary gun with a person's rights not to be persecuted. It's preposterous logic.

No we target innocent people for no other reason that we don't agree with their lifestyle.

We need to spread the love to include every potential threat, muslims are a potential threat and need to legislated against just like we do gun owners, who have committed no crime


BTW backward religions are unnecessary, time to target other groups for no reason other than we can.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:28pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 6:44pm: So you embraced it when we attacked gun owners for that action of one person ... What? One person (bryant) committed a crime (murder) specific draconian legislation was imposed on all gun owner based on that crime. It was in all the papers, I thought you may have been aware of it, sorry about that.  ;D ;D And? You surely think that is the greatest legislation ever, having the government target a specific group for no other reason that a single person committed a crime. One that was not even considered part of that group. Just some retard with money and an attitude. We have done it once and every soft cock lefty loved it, why can't we do this for all groups that may pose a risk to anyone or not. lets's start with the group that poses the most risk based on the actions of a few. Come on it is the best way of doing things in this country. No need to commit a crime, to be treated like a criminal, just need to be art of the target group. It's perfect Less guns in the hands of people like you and Baronvonrort. This is a good thing.

Not a gun owner genius, just want the new world order spread evenly to other groups.  :) :)


We need to target specific groups that may pose a threat to the rest of us and as a non-gun owner I want the government to target these groups with the same vigour as they did gun owners. You know for our safety.

mothra wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

You are equating a person's loss of an unnecessary gun with a person's rights not to be persecuted. It's preposterous logic.

I have to disagree with you.

It's not logic at all.

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

Islam is certainly a motivator, however, it's no excuse for their behaviour.

Explain the difference.



Let's see if you can.

Soren wrote on Dec 29^th, 2015 at 8:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 10:40am: Islam is certainly a motivator, however, it's no excuse for their behaviour. Explain the difference. Let's see if you can.

Apologist.

Why do you defend terrorism, rape, paedophilia, and murder?