"Some of the key findings of the study included:

    57 per cent had experienced racism
    62 per cent had experienced racism in the workplace or when seeking employment
    1 in 10 Sydney Muslims had "very high" rates of exposure to racism
    86 per cent believed relations between Australian Muslims and non-Muslims were friendly
    Unemployment was higher among those surveyed (8.5 per cent) than the general Sydney population (3.7 per cent)

"Professor Dunn said most Sydney Muslims had a high sense of religiosity, or were strongly committed to their faith.

"That religiosity is positively associated with a sense of belonging to the country, and a sense that Islamic ways align with Australian norms," he said.

"Those Muslims with stronger levels of religiosity have a stronger level of self-belonging in the country.

The majority of Australian Muslims in the study not only identified themselves as Australian but also felt a sense of belonging to Australia."

What utter nonsense.

"Western Sydney University Professor Kevin Dunn, the report's lead author, said the results were consistent with other studies that showed high rates of Islamophobia in Australia"

Islamo - what?

A readers comment ...

"zengard

11:38 AM on 30/11/2015

Hi, really wish people would stop using the word racism when describing what is actually a religious problem. Doesn't the Oxford dictionary state racism as " mass noun]

1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior:
'a programme to combat racism'"

The statement in your article "•86 per cent believed relations between Australian Muslims and non-Muslims were friendly" is not surprising considering they wish to settle here and have their children grow up in this country, they are not about to say otherwise.

I don't consider myself racist, however I do have an issue with a religion which specifically teaches violence against others. But then I am an uneducated person so possibly I just don't know any better. Lets be realistic here, the Asians don't come to western societies to kill and maim, nor do the Indians yet they have different religions. So what are we left to think, except Islam is not a religion for Australia.

Just my thoughts".

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:22pm:

The majority of Australian Muslims in the study not only identified themselves as Australian but also felt a sense of belonging to Australia."

That's been my experience, with every single Muslim I've met.

A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though.

double plus good wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though.

Did you get a knock back?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:32pm: A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though. Did you get a knock back?

What a total trolling prat you are, turd.

If you asked them why they feel they belong here, they'd fail a polygraph if they said anything other than its their duty to convert the infidels.

... wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

If you asked them why they feel they belong here, they'd fail a polygraph if they said anything other than its their duty to convert the infidels.

Polygraphs?

How does the bottom of that barrel look, Wes?

double plus good wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though.

It's so bloody obvious, isn't it?

What they mean is a sense of belonging to their own Muslim community in Australia.

A 'sense of belonging' - but meanwhile they've got their womenfolk and little girls born in Australia parading around in hijabs to put distance between themselves and the kuffars who are not genocidally anti-Israel.

Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:32pm: A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though. Did you get a knock back? What a total trolling prat you are, turd.

Incredible isn't it?

And then on another thread we've got a 'mod' threatening all sorts of dire consequences to myself and others if we continue behaving in a delinquent fashion ... and all the while this bot-fly 'gregg' is allowed to roam the board at will with his graffiti paint can in hand making a bugger*** nuisance of himself with tagging and one-liner interruptions to the flow of conversations.

... wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 8:38pm:

If you asked them why they feel they belong here, they'd fail a polygraph if they said anything other than its their duty to convert the infidels.

Good one!  ;D ;D ;D

Yes .. a lie-detector with the cables attached to their testicles with the sort of voltage that Saddam Hussein's Secret Police used to use at Abo Grab would soon sort out any 'taqiyya' porkies they tried to pull.

With all of these Muslims fleeing to the West is a case of 'chasing the money' and slipping into the dole queues ... ie 'Mammon before Mohammad'.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 5:28am:

What they mean is a sense of belonging to their own Muslim community in Australia.

Herbie speaking on behalf of all Australian Muslims.

What a guy!

Even Gandalf plays the race card, while also decrying the victimhood mentality of Muslims.

What percentage of Australian Muslims blame racism when they miss out on a job?

double plus good wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though.

I know a Lebanese muslim woman with 2 daughters, her husband blamed her for having girls and divorced her.

Leila arranged for her daughters to be married to good muslims from Lebanon, it helps the muslims to colonise Australia by bringing out 2 more men and their families under the family reunion program instead of having them marry local muslim men.

A muslim man can marry a non muslim woman, it's haram for a muslim woman to marry a non muslim.

Isn't banning your daughters from marrying non Muslims religious intolerance? :-?

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 12:30pm:

Even Gandalf plays the race card, while also decrying the victimhood mentality of Muslims. What percentage of Australian Muslims blame racism when they miss out on a job?

Gandalf is always finding himself on the back-foot trying to defend the moral delinquencies contained in the Koran.

School-children are now being morally blackmailed and threatened with ostracism if they should show any signs of 'racism' (sic) and 'Islamophobia' towards Muslims.

In the vast majority of our schools there are no teachers except Far Left luvvies who are wedded to political correctness, multiculturalism, Climate Change, the Greens or Labor Party, anti-Israeli rhetoric, anti-USA hate speech, etc etc.

And so the schoolkids hear this drivel without anybody giving them an alternative view. 

It's not 'racism' any more than criticising the Catholic Church is 'racism'.

And Islamophobia describes a 'morbid fear of' which is quite distinct from saying that Islam stinks because of some of the barbaric practices and attitudes that are uniquely defining of Muslims.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 1:30pm:

And Islamophobia describes a 'morbid fear of' ...

"The term "Islamophobia" was first introduced as a concept in a 1991 Runnymede Trust Report and defined as "unfounded hostility towards Muslims, and therefore fear or dislike of all or most Muslims." The term was coined in the context of Muslims in the UK in particular and Europe in general, and formulated based on the more common "xenophobia" framework."

"Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."

http://crg.berkeley.edu/content/islamophobia/defining-islamophobia

"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."

http://www.islamophobia.org/about.html

That's ignorant.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 1:37pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:30pm: And Islamophobia describes a 'morbid fear of' ... "The term "Islamophobia" was first introduced as a concept in a 1991 Runnymede Trust Report and defined as "unfounded hostility towards Muslims, and therefore fear or dislike of all or most Muslims." The term was coined in the context of Muslims in the UK in particular and Europe in general, and formulated based on the more common "xenophobia" framework." "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure." http://crg.berkeley.edu/content/islamophobia/defining-islamophobia "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." http://www.islamophobia.org/about.html

Ali Sina from Iran exposes the idiocy behind the technically and logically incoreect term used by dopey leftists to defend Islam called Islamophobia.

faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:30pm: And Islamophobia describes a 'morbid fear of' ... "The term "Islamophobia" was first introduced as a concept in a 1991 Runnymede Trust Report and defined as "unfounded hostility towards Muslims, and therefore fear or dislike of all or most Muslims." The term was coined in the context of Muslims in the UK in particular and Europe in general, and formulated based on the more common "xenophobia" framework." "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure." http://crg.berkeley.edu/content/islamophobia/defining-islamophobia "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." http://www.islamophobia.org/about.html Ali Sina from Iran exposes the idiocy behind the technically and logically incoreect term used by dopey leftists to defend Islam called Islamophobia. faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm

It's not used to defend Islam.

It's used to describe Islamophobes.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:30pm: And Islamophobia describes a 'morbid fear of' ... "The term "Islamophobia" was first introduced as a concept in a 1991 Runnymede Trust Report and defined as "unfounded hostility towards Muslims, and therefore fear or dislike of all or most Muslims." The term was coined in the context of Muslims in the UK in particular and Europe in general, and formulated based on the more common "xenophobia" framework." "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure." http://crg.berkeley.edu/content/islamophobia/defining-islamophobia "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." http://www.islamophobia.org/about.html Ali Sina from Iran exposes the idiocy behind the technically and logically incoreect term used by dopey leftists to defend Islam called Islamophobia. faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm It's used to defend Islam.

;D

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 1:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:48pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:30pm: And Islamophobia describes a 'morbid fear of' ... "The term "Islamophobia" was first introduced as a concept in a 1991 Runnymede Trust Report and defined as "unfounded hostility towards Muslims, and therefore fear or dislike of all or most Muslims." The term was coined in the context of Muslims in the UK in particular and Europe in general, and formulated based on the more common "xenophobia" framework." "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure." http://crg.berkeley.edu/content/islamophobia/defining-islamophobia "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." http://www.islamophobia.org/about.html Ali Sina from Iran exposes the idiocy behind the technically and logically incoreect term used by dopey leftists to defend Islam called Islamophobia. faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm It's not used to defend Islam. It's used to describe Islamophobes. 100% correct.

Yep.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1^st, 2015 at 1:37pm:

"Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."[/i]

;D  ;D ;D

Myself and millions of people from my generation do not accept neologisms that have been incorrectly cobbled together from Latin and Greek roots to describe meanings that are a confectionery dreamed up by Lefty w*ankers.

Translated correctly, 'Islamophobia' describes a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam.

It's the same as the neologism - 'greggophobia' - which describes a morbid and debilitating fear of unflushable floaters.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."[/i] ;D  ;D ;D Myself and millions of people from my generation do not accept neologisms that have been incorrectly cobbled together from Latin and Greek roots to describe meanings that are a confectionery dreamed up by Lefty w*ankers. Translated correctly, 'Islamophobia' describes a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. It's the same as the neologism - 'greggophobia' - which describes a morbid and debilitating fear of unflushable floaters.

The phobias are so 20th century, Herbie.

I prefer the 19th century philias. Gerophilia, necrophilia, faecophilia.

Miam miam, no?

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."[/i] ;D  ;D ;D Myself and millions of people from my generation do not accept neologisms

And that's why we treat you with contempt.

Karnal wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."[/i] ;D  ;D ;D Myself and millions of people from my generation do not accept neologisms that have been incorrectly cobbled together from Latin and Greek roots to describe meanings that are a confectionery dreamed up by Lefty w*ankers. Translated correctly, 'Islamophobia' describes a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. It's the same as the neologism - 'greggophobia' - which describes a morbid and debilitating fear of unflushable floaters. The phobias are so 20th century, Herbie. I prefer the 19th century philias. Autophilia, coptophilia, faecophilia. Miam miam, no?

Sovereignophobia ?? ;D ;D ;D

double plus good wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."[/i] ;D  ;D ;D Myself and millions of people from my generation do not accept neologisms that have been incorrectly cobbled together from Latin and Greek roots to describe meanings that are a confectionery dreamed up by Lefty w*ankers. Translated correctly, 'Islamophobia' describes a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. It's the same as the neologism - 'greggophobia' - which describes a morbid and debilitating fear of unflushable floaters. The phobias are so 20th century, Herbie. I prefer the 19th century philias. Autophilia, coptophilia, faecophilia. Miam miam, no? Sovereignophobia ?? ;D ;D ;D

Homophilia...

Karnal wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:38pm:

double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:59pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 1:37pm: "Islamophobia is a contrived fear or prejudice fomented by the existing Eurocentric and Orientalist global power structure."[/i] ;D  ;D ;D Myself and millions of people from my generation do not accept neologisms that have been incorrectly cobbled together from Latin and Greek roots to describe meanings that are a confectionery dreamed up by Lefty w*ankers. Translated correctly, 'Islamophobia' describes a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. It's the same as the neologism - 'greggophobia' - which describes a morbid and debilitating fear of unflushable floaters. The phobias are so 20th century, Herbie. I prefer the 19th century philias. Autophilia, coptophilia, faecophilia. Miam miam, no? Sovereignophobia ?? ;D ;D ;D Homophilia...

Smellyburquaophobia. No comment on the American jihadi attack post sugar muffin?? You've gone quiet. You had a lot to say on the abortion clinic attack.

double plus good wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:40pm:

Smellyburquaophobia. No comment on the American jihadi attack post sugar muffin?? You've gone quiet. You had a lot to say on the abortion clinic attack.

Shouldn't you be sharpening your box cutter, Homo?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:42pm:

double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:40pm: Smellyburquaophobia. No comment on the American jihadi attack post sugar muffin?? You've gone quiet. You had a lot to say on the abortion clinic attack. Shouldn't you be sharpening your box cutter, Homo?

Only after you get home from playing golf paid for by union proceeds.

double plus good wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:42pm: double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:40pm: Smellyburquaophobia. No comment on the American jihadi attack post sugar muffin?? You've gone quiet. You had a lot to say on the abortion clinic attack. Shouldn't you be sharpening your box cutter, Homo? Only after you get home from playing golf paid for by union proceeds.

Just got back from Joondalup - two under par.

I'm a smacking legend!

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:48pm:

double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:42pm: double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:40pm: Smellyburquaophobia. No comment on the American jihadi attack post sugar muffin?? You've gone quiet. You had a lot to say on the abortion clinic attack. Shouldn't you be sharpening your box cutter, Homo? Only after you get home from playing golf paid for by union proceeds. Just got back from Joondalup - two under par. I'm a smacking legend!

That's a little less money in the kitty to defend workers against unfair dismissal.

double plus good wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:48pm: double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:42pm: double plus good wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 8:40pm: Smellyburquaophobia. No comment on the American jihadi attack post sugar muffin?? You've gone quiet. You had a lot to say on the abortion clinic attack. Shouldn't you be sharpening your box cutter, Homo? Only after you get home from playing golf paid for by union proceeds. Just got back from Joondalup - two under par. I'm a smacking legend! That's a little less money in the kitty to defend workers against unfair dismissal.

If it's an unfair dismissal claim, I defend them for free.

($64 for the application)

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 12:20pm:

That's ignorant.

It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion.

It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam.

The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion.

What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings. 

"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."

muslims cause islamophobia

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia

That's true, but it's gregg who causes floaterphobia ... (a morbid and debilitating fear of unflushable floaters).

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia

Islamophobes cause Islamophobia.

"Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims.

"An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."


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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims."

So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia.

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia.

No. Any kind of prejudice is Islamophobia.

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia.

open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms.

And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia.

mothra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 4:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia. No. Any kind of prejudice is Islamophobia.

You should try using a dictionary.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 4:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia. open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms. And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia.

And who decides whether a criticism is 'informed'?

Muslims.

You are aliens, pal.


No criticism of Islam is 'Islamophobic'.  It's criticism. Being critical is not a symptom of phobia.



"Islamophobia" is criticism of Islam that Muslims do not like to hear and/or cannot refute. 'Islamophobia' is pertinent criticism of Islam - that's why you want to shut it down.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 4:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia. open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms. And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia.

The muslim way of thinking is exactly that. A contradiction. Every time someone with an open mind gets informed about islam, muslims cry prejudice by screaming islamophobia. How ironic.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:20pm: cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 4:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia. open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms. And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia. And who decides whether a criticism is 'informed'? Muslims. You are aliens, pal. No criticism of Islam is 'Islamophobic'.  It's criticism. Being critical is not a symptom of phobia. "Islamophobia" is criticism of Islam that Muslims do not like to hear and/or cannot refute. 'Islamophobia' is pertinent criticism of Islam - that's why you want to shut it down.

Well, sweeping the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group of intelectual retards is a pretty big clue.

Criticising actual beliefs is not prejudice or Islamophobic - I never said otherwise. But drawing sweeping conclusions about beliefs such as "muslims revere a man who I consider was a Pedophile - therefore all muslims are pedophiles" - is prejudice, and is, dare I say it, Islamophobia.

mothra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 4:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia. No. Any kind of prejudice is Islamophobia.

SO it is not permitted to widely consider an ideology and then completely reject it? You accept every conceivable ideology and religion??

What aspects of Scientology, Satanism, Voodoo do you accept and embrace?

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:11am:

freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:20pm: That's ignorant. It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion. It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion. What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.

Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism.



polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Soren wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:20pm: open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms. And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia. And who decides whether a criticism is 'informed'? Muslims. You are aliens, pal. No criticism of Islam is 'Islamophobic'.  It's criticism. Being critical is not a symptom of phobia. "Islamophobia" is criticism of Islam that Muslims do not like to hear and/or cannot refute. 'Islamophobia' is pertinent criticism of Islam - that's why you want to shut it down. Well, sweeping the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group of intelectual retards is a pretty big clue.

Let's play spot the contradiction.

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:03pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:18pm: cosanostra wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 4:31pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 9:19am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 7:49am: greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 6:21am: "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." muslims cause islamophobia Islamophobes cause Islamophobia. "Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. "An Islamophobe is an individual who holds a closed-minded view of Islam and promotes prejudice against or hatred of Muslims." So an open minded informed predudice against islam or muslims is NOT Islamophobia. No. Any kind of prejudice is Islamophobia. SO it is not permitted to widely consider an ideology and then completely reject it?

Oh, old boy, you are a silly. You don’t just reject Islam for yourself, you want it banned, killed, carpetbombed and nuked. You know what you are, old chap?

You’re a liberal.

You might not agree with what the Muselman has to say, but you’d fight to the death for his right to not be offended, no?

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:11am: freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:20pm: That's ignorant. It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion. It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion. What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.  Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism.

It is, FD.

But it is still a jolly world.

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 2:19pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:11am: freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:20pm: That's ignorant. It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion. It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion. What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.  Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism. It is, FD. But it is still a jolly world.

But give credit K - that statement's been revised from "someone once said all criticism of Islam is based on racism". FD won't admit to misquoting someone - but at least he will quietly correct the record when he's been exposed.

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:11am: freediver wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:20pm: That's ignorant. It's a lot worse than ignorant. It's a perversion of the original meaning of these words in order to suit a Leftwing agenda that aims to stifle and vilify anyone who criticises Muslims for reasons of culture and religion. It's a newly and arbitrarily created definition for an otherwise perfectly good composite word that means a morbid and debilitating fear of Islam. The Leftwing also butchered the word 'racism' to now include any criticism or dislike of someone's culture or religion. What's unfortunate is that even those professionals who make their living by trading with words, such as journalists, academics and politicians - have quickly adopted these new definitions to replace the original meanings.  Someone once claimed that all Islamophobia is based on racism. polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5th, 2015 at 8:21am: Soren wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 8:21pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4th, 2015 at 5:20pm: open minded informed prejudice is a contradiction in terms. And yes, informed criticism of Islam is not Islamophobia. And who decides whether a criticism is 'informed'? Muslims. You are aliens, pal. No criticism of Islam is 'Islamophobic'.  It's criticism. Being critical is not a symptom of phobia. "Islamophobia" is criticism of Islam that Muslims do not like to hear and/or cannot refute. 'Islamophobia' is pertinent criticism of Islam - that's why you want to shut it down. Well, sweeping the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group of intelectual retards is a pretty big clue. Let's play spot the contradiction.

Do you see anything racist in moses' argument FD? You still haven't said.

Not that I recall.

Me neither.  8-)

If you see something, say something.

Except - if it's Muslims.  Following the murder of 14 people by an Islamic couple in San Bernardino:
A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people.



If you see some Muslims behaving suspiciously, hug them., lest they accuse you of a backlash due to Paris, London, San Bernardino, etc.

Fear not S - the blonde beast will surely rise again. And rest assured people will be arrested for looking muslim - as it should be.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Fear not S - the blonde beast will surely rise again. And rest assured people will be arrested for looking muslim - as it should be.

Precisely.

You said that in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the Cronulla Riots, didn't you?

It stopped Our Girls getting harassed on the beaches by gangs of Muslim youths - something the police didn't do despite YEARS of receiving complaints.

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

If you see something, say something. Except - if it's Muslims.  Following the murder of 14 people by an Islamic couple in San Bernardino: A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people. If you see some Muslims behaving suspiciously, hug them., lest they accuse you of a backlash due to Paris, London, San Bernardino, etc.

How is "being in the area" suspicious?

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:32pm: A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though. Did you get a knock back?

And heeeeeere's Rick from the Young Ones.  That's Rick with a silent P. 
So you. Spot on.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/greggerypeccary.jpg

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:32pm: A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though. Did you get a knock back? And heeeeeere's Rick from the Young Ones.  That's Rick with a silent P.  So you. Spot on. http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/greggerypeccary.jpg

I knew you'd like that one, Soren.

I look forward to hearing more, when you send your next PM.

So, back to the question: how is "being in the area" suspicious?


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/8c/fe/cc8cfef92fcf0658510411cde0e1e58b.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:58am: greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:34pm: double plus good wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:32pm: A sense of belonging??? They won't let their daughters marry a non Muslim though. Did you get a knock back? And heeeeeere's Rick from the Young Ones.  That's Rick with a silent P.  So you. Spot on. http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/greggerypeccary.jpg I knew you'd like that one, Soren. I look forward to hearing more, when you send your next PM. So, back to the question: how is "being in the area" suspicious? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/8c/fe/cc8cfef92fcf0658510411cde0e1e58b.jpg

Just look like this - suspicious AND ridiculous.

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_49/1327961/151203-syed-farook-mn-1300_46229dfd8ea9ac8ea3e068817d38f874.nbcnews-ux-320-320.jpg

Or like this 'UK' (ie Paki) policeman who sued his fellow policemen for laffing at his beard. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/af/fb/7c/affb7ce71adbec7f5ebaa6696c819dee.jpg

Can you respect that beard? Can you regard that guy as 'just like you'??

Can you, Rick with a silent P??