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Message started by jmjcare on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:21pm

Title: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by jmjcare on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:21pm
Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California; 3 suspects at large

Published on 2 Dec 2015

A dozen people have been reported killed at a San Bernardino, California facility for people with disabilities. Police are looking for up to three active shooter suspects, and possible explosive devices. RT's Manuel Rapalo reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0sJDCyu2NM

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.


If it was a white non muslim who did this everyone would be demonising all white American gun owners.



Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:57pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.


If it was a white non muslim who did this everyone would be demonising all white American gun owners.


Nope.

I feel for those poor people who have been killed, and also for their grieving families.

You, however, seem to be focused on finding an excuse for the murderer.

Apologist much?


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mortdooley on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:01pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.


If it was a white non muslim who did this everyone would be demonising all white American gun owners.


Obama has already blamed loose gun laws rather than another target rich gun free zone and fanatics!

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:09pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.


If it was a white non muslim who did this everyone would be demonising all white American gun owners.


Sooooo you're argument is that you're just as irrational as other people who are quick to tar an entire group of people with the same brush? Interesting.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by issuevoter on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


The intelligencia will avoid calling it anything, with "the motive remains unclear."

Muslims will say "while they regret all violence, it is payback for American foreign policy."

The government will assure citizens that they stand united against terrorism.

Take your pick.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:13pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:11pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


The intelligencia will avoid calling it anything, with "the motive remains unclear."

Muslims will say "while they regret all violence, it is payback for American foreign policy."

The government will assure citizens that they stand united against terrorism.

Take your pick.




I don't think most Muslims would call it payback. That's a bit strong. Cause and effect maybe, but not payback.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:13pm

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:01pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.


If it was a white non muslim who did this everyone would be demonising all white American gun owners.


Obama has already blamed loose gun laws rather than another target rich gun free zone and fanatics!


How can he blame loose gun laws when California has some of the toughest gun laws in the USA?

We allow professional shooters to have semi auto centrefire in Australia, we allow recreational shooters to have 50BMG , these types of guns are outlawed in California.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:16pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 1:01pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.

I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron, but whats critically important now is that we jump to conclusions as quickly as possible to ensure muslims are demonised as quickly and as much as humanly possible.


If it was a white non muslim who did this everyone would be demonising all white American gun owners.


Obama has already blamed loose gun laws rather than another target rich gun free zone and fanatics!


How can he blame loose gun laws when California has some of the toughest gun laws in the USA?


Quite easily.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm
This is an odd one. Suspected three shooters and their target was a "facility" that caters to child and adults who mild to severe forms of autism. You can rule out this being a political and/or governmental attack. I'm willing to bet this was the work of disgruntled parents since one shooter is suspected to be female.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:37pm

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm:
This is an odd one. Suspected three shooters and their target was a "facility" that caters to child and adults who mild to severe forms of autism. You can rule out this being a political and/or governmental attack. I'm willing to bet this was the work of disgruntled parents since one shooter is suspected to be female.


Farooq's father has said he was a devout muslim.

The Beslan massacre killed a few hundred kids, it's not unprecedented for devout muslims to kill kids.

ISIS supporters are praising this.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by gandalf on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:44pm

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm:
This is an odd one. Suspected three shooters and their target was a "facility" that caters to child and adults who mild to severe forms of autism. You can rule out this being a political and/or governmental attack. I'm willing to bet this was the work of disgruntled parents since one shooter is suspected to be female.


Nothing but lilly-livered spineless apologetics that.

You heard Issue and Baron - its been proven beyond any scrap of doubt these were ISIS loving fanatics - don't you dare suggest anything else.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:25pm
Well, show me a Muslim that likes weed and pussy and I'll show you one who isn't another god damn fanatic.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:34pm

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:25pm:
Well, show me a Muslim that likes weed and pussy and I'll show you one who isn't another god damn fanatic.



Well that is a rather interesting bench mark. Does that go for all people or just Muslims?

Do you like weed and pussy Marla?

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Marla on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:37pm
Let's just say I'll take weed and pussy over fanatical Islam any day.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by lee on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:41pm
I like Abyssinians myself. ;)

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mothra on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:45pm

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Let's just say I'll take weed and pussy over fanatical Islam any day.



So a different bench mark for you.

You only have to opt for weed and pussy instead of fanaticism while a Muslim has to actually like weed and pussy?

Hardly fair is it?


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Honky on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:18pm
They hate us for our weed and pussy.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by John Smith on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:20pm

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Let's just say I'll take weed and pussy over fanatical Islam any day.


who wouldn't?

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by double plus good on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 7:38pm
No comment Karnal Knowledge. The jihadists just knocked the Sovereigns of the FBIs number 1 position. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Mass shooting in Calif. was Islamic Terrorism
Post by Panther on Dec 5th, 2015 at 6:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 12:36pm:
The Ft Hood terror attack was called workplace violence.
I wonder what this attack by Farooq Saeed will be called.


Time will tell Baron..........




F.B.I. Treating San Bernardino Attack as Terrorism



Source:   The New York Times 
Quote:
WASHINGTON — On the day she and her husband killed 14 people and wounded 21 others in San Bernardino, Calif., a woman pledged allegiance to the Islamic State in a Facebook post, officials said Friday, as the F.B.I. announced that it was treating the massacre as an act of terrorism.

“The investigation so far has developed indications of radicalization by the killers, and of potential inspiration by foreign terrorist organizations,” the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said at a news conference here. But he said that investigators had not found evidence that the killers were part of a larger group or terrorist cell. The couple died in a shootout with the police on Wednesday.

“There’s no indication that they are part of a network,” he said.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyvPR0YnePc



Quote:
The woman, Tashfeen Malik, declared allegiance to the Islamic State on Facebook at roughly the time of the shooting on Wednesday, according to a Facebook spokesman. At a news conference in San Bernardino, David Bowdich, the F.B.I. assistant director in charge of the Los Angeles office, said he was aware of the post, which was taken down by Facebook on Wednesday, but he would not elaborate.


The F.B.I.'s Professional findings   ~ vs ~  the personal emotional opinions of throngs of Islamic Apologists ....... 

............... The F.B.I. gets the nod hands down for credibility.   ;)




Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by freediver on Dec 5th, 2015 at 7:37pm
What do you think Gandalf? Was it another case of Islamic terrorism?


Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:25pm:
Well, show me a Muslim that likes weed and pussy and I'll show you one who isn't another god damn fanatic.


Apparently the Paris terrorists lead a fairly loose lifestyle, but that may have been taqiyya.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Setanta on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:07pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Let's just say I'll take weed and pussy over fanatical Islam any day.


who wouldn't?


Amen.

Sit on my face and call me Harley, I'll burble away

Edit: That was aimed at pussy, not you John.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mortdooley on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:43pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2015 at 5:37pm:
Let's just say I'll take weed and pussy over fanatical Islam any day.


who wouldn't?


Amen.

Sit on my face and call me Harley, I'll burble away

Edit: That was aimed at pussy, not you John.


It seems you and Marla like the same thing!  (I still suspect she is really a middle aged fat guy)

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mortdooley on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:50pm
If You See Something...

by Mark Steyn  •  Dec 3, 2015 at 4:24 pm

...shut up, racist.

That's Kate McMillan's headline summation of the Big Security State in an age of political correctness.

On the one hand, the Department of Homeland Security enjoins us: "If you see something, say something." It's an expensive, focus-grouped official government slogan.

On the other hand, when it's happening in your street, it's all a bit more complicated:

    A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people......

http://www.steynonline.com/7334/if-you-see-something

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by Marla on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:59am

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
It seems you and Marla like the same thing!  (I still suspect she is really a middle aged fat guy)



Neither fat, middle -aged or male. But I suspect you are old, on welfare (like most Texans), and possibly still live with your mother.

Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernardino, California;
Post by mortdooley on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:29am

Marla wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:59am:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 6th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
It seems you and Marla like the same thing!  (I still suspect she is really a middle aged fat guy)



Neither fat, middle -aged or male. But I suspect you are old, on welfare (like most Texans), and possibly still live with your mother.


Am I old, that is a matter of perspective. The men in my family live independent lives well in to their nineties and my dad is still around so I must be middle aged. My dad has been a widower for about thirty-five years so I guess I can't live with my mother. I don't think I qualify for welfare, I made more money on Stock today then you will probably make in wages in the next six months!

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