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Message started by Maqqa on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:01pm

Title: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Maqqa on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:01pm
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s1878217.htm

MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: Kevin Rudd today announced a bold plan to invest $4.7 billion in a joint public/private partnership to build a broadband network that would double the speed in five years and bring broadband within reach of 98 per cent of the population.

MICHAEL BRISSENDEN: All the big telcos agree there needs to be a major investment, and they've been pushing their own schemes for some time. Telstra, though, wants to name its own price for what it charges rivals for use of its fibre rollout. The ACCC is resisting; Optus also has a plan. Labor's proposal would give open access to all. A Labor Government would maintain 50 per cent equity, funded by $2 billion of money already allocated in the communications fund and the remainder by using the Government's 17 per cent of Telstra shares that are still in the Future Fund. And there's the rub; the Government says Labor's plan is not so much a pathway to the future, but a raid on future prosperity. The Future Fund was established from surplus budgets and designed to pay for Commonwealth superannuation liabilities in the years ahead.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:02pm
No sh1t Sherlock...

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Maqqa on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:04pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:02pm:
No sh1t Sherlock...


lol

Just a friendly reminder

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Kytro on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:08pm
Duped how? Maintaining equity?

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by cods on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:10pm
was the $4.7 bil... the cost of turning the first sod???>. ;D ;D

just askin

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:51pm
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Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:52pm

cods wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:10pm:
was the $4.7 bil... the cost of turning the first sod???>. ;D ;D

just askin

cods loves mal-net  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We know you don't ..

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We know you don't ..

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We know you don't ..

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Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7th, 2015 at 5:17pm
I think Malcolm duped Lib supporters about Fraudband:

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Feature/412733,analysis-the-destruction-of-the-nbn.aspx

Not sooner, not faster, definitely not cheaper or more affordable and having no return on investment.

I call it treason.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7th, 2015 at 5:48pm
the libs have no legacy: stop the boats- that's it  :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by mariacostel on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Dnarever on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:14pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
the libs have no legacy: stop the boats- that's it  :D :D :D :D :D


To be fair they also ditched the witch and axed the tax.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:15pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

No one ever said FTTP was going to cost 4.7 B  ;) ;)

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by John Smith on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:33pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.


From the sounds of it her husband does all the thinking  ... lucky for her.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7th, 2015 at 10:20pm
Why the hell doesn’t Longy remember basic things that happened only a few years ago? Brain damage?

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Dnarever on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:26am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 10:20pm:
Why the hell doesn’t Longy remember basic things that happened only a few years ago? Brain damage?


Longy has a fine memory for the things that she wants to remember.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Dnarever on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:29am
It is no surprise that the NBN talked about by people like Rudd and Howard in 2007 is vastly different from the same thing today. Back then FTTN was a viable option to investigate.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by sir prince duke alevine on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:34am

John Smith wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.


From the sounds of it her husband does all the thinking  ... lucky for her.

I hear he does all the posting here too, under her name. 

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Dnarever on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:37am
Rudd duped you with the NBN

It's a big call from anyone supporting the broadband vandalism perpetrated by Turnbull and Abbott.

You guys should be hiding in the corner with both your heads and tails between your legs hoping that nobody notices you on this topic.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Kat on Dec 8th, 2015 at 6:39am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:37am:
Rudd duped you with the NBN

It's a big call from anyone supporting the broadband vandalism perpetrated by Turnbull and Abbott.

You guys should be hiding in the corner with both your heads and tails between your legs hoping that nobody notices you on this topic.


Mmmm.

On MOST topics, actually.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by mariacostel on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:51am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.



No one beleives anything you say. You lie about every figure and make up the rest.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by John Smith on Dec 8th, 2015 at 8:07am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:51am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.



No one beleives anything you say. You lie about every figure and make up the rest.



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hilarious ....  Maria's projecting again

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 8th, 2015 at 8:28am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:51am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.



No one beleives anything you say. You lie about every figure and make up the rest.

It is ‘i’ before ‘e’ dear or did I just make that up too?

If you start abusing your lenders, staff and customers as much as you do people here when things aren’t quite to your liking you will have a VERY short business life!

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Dnarever on Dec 8th, 2015 at 9:04am

mariacostel wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 7:51am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 9:29pm:

mariacostel wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
The Future Fund was Costello’s desperate attempt to put some money out of Howard’s reach.

A $4.7Bn investment in productive infrastructure would have been good use of the FF funds.


So RUDD was going to build NBN for 4.7B?  That even crazier than your usual psychotic fantasy scenarios.

CHRIST you are stupid! $4.7Bn was to be the govt contribution.

That business you are talking about? Forget it, you will lose all your money and your house, you need smarts to run a business.



No one beleives anything you say. You lie about every figure and make up the rest.


However he is right ?

Are you really trying to argue that $4.7B wasn't meant to be the governments contribution ?

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 8th, 2015 at 11:22am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 5:29am:
It is no surprise that the NBN talked about by people like Rudd and Howard in 2007 is vastly different from the same thing today. Back then FTTN was a viable option to investigate.

Does anyone know what Howards opinion on mal-net is?

What about Costello?

What about Hewson?

What about Keating ?

;) ;) ;)

Hey guys: let's all hop together and say the word innovation 3 times in the mirror and all have a merry life  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Kat on Dec 8th, 2015 at 12:38pm
The only 'duping' has been done by Abbott and Talksbull.

They have deliberately and wantonly nobbled this country in respect of IT.

And they should BOTH be in prison for it.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:08pm
Howard {sigh} all that boom time revenue we could already have FTTH. But Howard didn’t care one whit for infrastructure. The weasel just cared about using the boomtime revenue to buy elections. Costello, a numpty.

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:09pm
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Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by Fit of absent mindedness on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:23pm
If 4.7 billion is a stuff up, what's doubling the cost then?

The LNP have doubled the cost and then some.


Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:28pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:08pm:
Howard {sigh} all that boom time revenue we could already have FTTH. But Howard didn’t care one whit for infrastructure. The weasel just cared about using the boomtime revenue to buy elections. Costello, a numpty.

The history of the Liberal Party has, as it's centre-piece: COPPER FRIGGIN' INTERNET SOLD TO US BY A BLOKE REGULARLY CALLED 'EARL'

THIS IS A FRIGGIN' TRUE STORY

PEOPLE DIED FOR THIS  :o :o :o :o

:-[

Title: Re: Rudd duped you with the NBN
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 8th, 2015 at 3:30pm
WE DEMAND A ROYAL COMMISSION  ::)

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