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Title: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Maqqa on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:29pm

Rudd vs Howard
The 2007 election was held on 4th November 2007. Nine months out from the election - Rudd overtakes Howard as preferred PM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-02-20/rudd-overtakes-howard-as-preferred-pm/2198484

A month out from the election Rudd was on 47% and Howard on 43%

Fast forward to 2015 - 9 months out from an election where is Shorten?

Does he even have 9 months left?

Title: Re: Maqqa is running out of time
Post by Greens_Win on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:34pm

Desperate !

As bad as shorten is, and yes he's bad, to try and use a poll 18 years as evidence to support this thread is downright stupid.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by cods on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm

I am not sure why you are worried about it macca...

a donkey could beat shortarse...

just a thought if he did win.. ::) ::) ::)

imagine him meeting all those VIPs on our behalf...OMG...this is the PM of Australia.... :D :D

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

what a nightmare.

Title: Re: Maqqa is running out of time
Post by Maqqa on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:

Desperate !

As bad as shorten is, and yes he's bad, to try and use a poll 18 years as evidence to support this thread ago is downright stupid.

It's best to stay quiet and have people think you are stupid rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt

I was not aware the time difference between 2007 and 2015 was 18 years

Howard was a very popular PM. It took a Herculean effort from the ALP to dislodge him. From a milestone point of view - Rudd overtook this popular PM 9 months out from an election.

Malcolm is now a very popular PM at 65%. The gap is even wider between Malcolm and Bill

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Maqqa on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:39pm

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Not worried cods

Just drawing comparisons ::) ::)

Title: Re: Maqqa is running out of time
Post by Greens_Win on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:48pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

____ wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:

Desperate !

As bad as shorten is, and yes he's bad, to try and use a poll 18 years as evidence to support this thread ago is downright stupid.

Shame you don't take your own advice.

8 rather than 18 ~ typing rather than math error.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:52pm

Yup, Libs really, desperately want the ALP to swap Leaders. In a month or two, when the polls start again and with Malcolm’s honeymoon well and truly over we will see how the Parties fare.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:55pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Shorten would win tomorrow: who's voting for copper internet?

:D :D

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:58pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Not worried cods

Just drawing comparisons ::) ::)

maqqa knows the young libs hate copper internet and he also knows many middle aged libs hate it too

:D :D :D :D

let's all get innovative and vote for copper internet again: good one malcolm ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hey, let's not forget to add in the hop for confidence ::) ::)

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:00pm

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

cods still loves copper internet apparently ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

bye bye malcom ;)

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:01pm

And the HFC areas will LOVE the 48mm diameter cables running between power poles ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by gandalf on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:09pm

The lack of any hint of leadership instability in the labor party seems to be really grating the libtards.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by lee on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:12pm

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

a donkey could beat shortarse...

Is Plibersek the next leader?

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by macman on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:16pm

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Cods, you must be joking! After tony......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Bias_2012 on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:21pm

The Labor party is finished, it's just a race to the bottom now between the Libs and Labs. Their demise will probably lead to a Republic, but God help us if the obsolete Libs and Labs have anything to do with it

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Merlin on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:29pm

Anyone could do a better job than shorten but why??? why??? why??? hasn't he been replaced already ?
What the hell is going on in the labor party ?

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:45pm

macman wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Cods, you must be joking! After tony......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She fell in love with him after this interview ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9E-bTgFN4

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Dnarever on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:04pm

Its time wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

macman wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Cods, you must be joking! After tony......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She fell in love with him after this interview ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9E-bTgFN4

It is easy to forget what an idiot he was.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Dnarever on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:07pm

Shorten is running out of time

Probably is the equation in place.

Is there enough time for the electorate to wake up to Turnbull before an election - or not ?

It isn't really about Shorten at this stage.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

The lack of any hint of leadership instability in the labor party seems to be really grating the libtards.

They know copper internet killed malcolm long ago: now he's talking about 'innovation' and shorten is just rolling his eyes at the mess in concert with costello and howard and every single living liberal voter!

All they have is STOP THE BOATS... literally this country is a joke :-[

** Yay, go turnbull :o :o

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:33pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:04pm:

Its time wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

macman wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Cods, you must be joking! After tony......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She fell in love with him after this interview ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9E-bTgFN4

It is easy to forget what an idiot he was.

Abbott was miles ahead of Turnbull: wait,.. no,.. no he wasn't but the media said he was ::) ::) ::) ::)

Who remembers Judith Sloane:... ay, let's get her back ay ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

go foxtel and stuff ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by malcolmISthetumbleweed on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:37pm

Merlin wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:29pm:

Anyone could do a better job than shorten but why??? why??? why??? hasn't he been replaced already ?
What the hell is going on in the labor party ?

coopper internet killed malcolm a long time ago: wake up buddy... everyone knows libs hate the copper internet and the laughing stock it made this country - ya see... lib voters had family that went to war :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o and died for this joke of a foreign vested interests, ahem, I mean investment tap party.

yay, go the investment tap and jew copper internet :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

ya front bottom*********s

8-)

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Maqqa on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:03am

As I said - 9 months out from the 2007 election Rudd overtakes Howard as preferred PM

Shorten is heading South. He's gone from 15% to 14%

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Jovial Monk on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:19am

A one point change is within margin of error.

The change in Malcolm’s rating is well above MoE. That is the significant development in this poll.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by miketrees on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:22am

a donkey could beat shortarse...

Is Plibersek the next leader?

I know the sort of internet sites you have been on Lee

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by cods on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:26am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

Yup, Libs really, desperately want the ALP to swap Leaders. In a month or two, when the polls start again and with Malcolm’s honeymoon well and truly over we will see how the Parties fare.

where did you get the idea.. US LIBS WANT HIM GONE>> ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

are you kidding...Mr 14%... NO WAY we love im..

I got a laugh today Ray Hadley doesnt mince words either... he said he is amazed he is still getting double figures..

HILARIOUS...
no Mr Monk you have got hold of the wrong end of the stick once again..

sorry dear I know you mean well but its time to get your head out of the sand and take a look at reality...

if you think Malc will crash and therefor get shortarse over the line.. you are bonkers..

watching shortarse is like watching a zombie in a sci fi movie.... as boring as watching wet paint dry..

.I cant even be bothered to dislike him... :( :(

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by cods on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:28am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

what the???... someone hoping for that miracle.... ;D ;D

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:30am

heheheeheh - another thread to highlight the righties obsession with Shorten!
Shorten is in opposition, the Labor party can change leaders daily if they want.
Remember the turmoil with Nelson, Turnbull,Abbott? Just be absolutely grateful that Shorten - as unpopular is he is - got rid of the most incompetent Coalition PM ever. Try to contain your admiration for him.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Kat on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:31am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:04pm:

Its time wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

macman wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:38pm:

Cods, you must be joking! After tony......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

She fell in love with him after this interview ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9E-bTgFN4

It is easy to forget what an idiot he was.

Not really.

His policies are still there.

As are the neo-fascists and/or terminally-ignorant who continue to support him.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Kat on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:33am

cods wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:26am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:52pm:

Yup, Libs really, desperately want the ALP to swap Leaders. In a month or two, when the polls start again and with Malcolm’s honeymoon well and truly over we will see how the Parties fare.

Any wonder you're so ignorant, if you listen to that loud-mouthed, bigoted fool.

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by cods on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:34am

miketrees wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:22am:

a donkey could beat shortarse...

Is Plibersek the next leader?

I know the sort of internet sites you have been on Lee

not another Kenealy /Laurence/Kirner..

where they are thrown to the wolves..off appalling State govt issues

surely that lot have learned their lessons..

then again the Left are well known for how far they will go for personal ambitions arent they?

.. so she would probably jump at it..

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by lee on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 10:24am

miketrees wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:22am:

a donkey could beat shortarse...

Is Plibersek the next leader?

I know the sort of internet sites you have been on Lee

No you don't

Title: Re: Shorten is running out of time
Post by Armchair_Politician on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 10:55am

Shorten won't be replaced. Rudd made it virtually impossible and the ALP also have no one to run against Turnbull at this time. Shorten is caretaker Opposition Leader until the looming election defeat at the hands of Turnbull in 2016, after which Shorten will stand down in order to let the party "regenerate" and plan ahead for the next election.