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The Grand Mufti has visited and publicly supports a Middle Eastern sheik who has been banned from the US, Britain and France

get rid of him and his kind

Deport him, kill his children.

Karnal wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 8:13am:

Deport him, kill his children.

Calm down Karnal, go and read your Koran on love thy neighbour.

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 8:13am: Deport him, kill his children. Calm down Karnal, go and read your Koran on love thy neighbour.

Love thy neighbour is from the bible innit?

I think the closest in the Koran is "rape thy neighbour, his wife and his pets, burn their house to the ground and salt the earth where it once stood".

Daily Telegraph- The Grand Mufti’s views were also laid bare yesterday with the release of details of a book he wrote saying non-Muslims wanted their women to walk around “exposed as a piece of sweet pastry ... ­devoured by the eyes of men”.



Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed. Picture: Mr Pickwick

In his 1993 book An Invitation To Contemplate, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed wrote modern society wanted women “with legs and arms ­exposed, filling the shopping malls and the streets, competing for the glimpses of men” — according to the book’s ­translator Keysar Trad.

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 8:13am: Deport him, kill his children. Calm down Karnal, go and read your Koran on love thy neighbour.

We’re Christians.

Nuke them.

... wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 9:07am: Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 8:13am: Deport him, kill his children. Calm down Karnal, go and read your Koran on love thy neighbour. Love thy neighbour is from the bible innit? I think the closest in the Koran is "rape thy neighbour, his wife and his pets, burn their house to the ground and salt the earth where it once stood".

Hate them.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/grand-muftis-links-to-banned-egyptian-sheik-stir-up-tensions/news-story/30dcb1f1fac4f128f9441ffe809be3b7

In all seriousness, this is a disturbing report - and if true, this association by the Mufti should be condemned by muslims. I would like to see the mufti distance himself from this petition and distance himself from this hate-monger.

That's ignorant.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 10:13am:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/grand-muftis-links-to-banned-egyptian-sheik-stir-up-tensions/news-story/30dcb1f1fac4f128f9441ffe809be3b7 In all seriousness, this is a disturbing report - and if true, this association by the Mufti should be condemned by muslims. I would like to see the mufti distance himself from this petition and distance himself from this hate-monger.

I'ld like to see the mufti live in Iraq or iran or any other Islamic place far away .
I'ld like to see him take every muslim now in aust over there too.

It's pretty alarming what the Mufti wrote about western women in his book. Apparently the mufti believes that the girls and women in our families are having their bodies devoured by men with their eyes because of what they wear.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 10:13am:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/grand-muftis-links-to-banned-egyptian-sheik-stir-up-tensions/news-story/30dcb1f1fac4f128f9441ffe809be3b7 In all seriousness, this is a disturbing report - and if true, this association by the Mufti should be condemned by muslims. I would like to see the mufti distance himself from this petition and distance himself from this hate-monger.

So, as a member of the faith, what steps will you be taking to let your views be known?

dunno boges - I'm torn between suicide bombing the mufti's residence and shooting up his mosque - what do you suggest?

Well, I'm assuming you will do something. It would be offensive for we non-muslims to interfere presumably.

But at least you might write a letter in Arabic or something expressing your disappointment. I'm guessing he doesn't speak English too well.

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 1:39pm:

But at least you might write a letter

ah 'slactivism' you mean? Sure, why not - I'll start a hashtag and make a strongly worded update on my facebook page - and ask people to like.

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Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed. Picture: Mr Pickwick In his 1993 book An Invitation To Contemplate, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed wrote modern society wanted women “with legs and arms ­exposed, filling the shopping malls and the streets, competing for the glimpses of men” — according to the book’s ­translator Keysar Trad.

they hate our society of freedom.

I hate islam and all it spawns.
I hate every muslim for still belonging to that cult.
It defines you.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:

Quote:        Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed. Picture: Mr Pickwick In his 1993 book An Invitation To Contemplate, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed wrote modern society wanted women “with legs and arms ­exposed, filling the shopping malls and the streets, competing for the glimpses of men” — according to the book’s ­translator Keysar Trad. they hate our society of freedom.

Ban them.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:

Quote:        Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed. Picture: Mr Pickwick In his 1993 book An Invitation To Contemplate, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed wrote modern society wanted women “with legs and arms ­exposed, filling the shopping malls and the streets, competing for the glimpses of men” — according to the book’s ­translator Keysar Trad. they hate our society of freedom. I hate islam and all it spawns. I hate every muslim for still belonging to that cult. It defines you.

No Sprint. But your hate defines you.

Don't you think this dude has a warped view of Australian society Mothra?

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 7:49pm:

Don't you think this dude has a warped view of Australian society Mothra?

people are allowed a warped view of our society.
If that is the case, they are saying they don't like it here.
They should leave.

If I lived in pakistan and did not like it there, I should leave

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 7:49pm: Don't you think this dude has a warped view of Australian society Mothra? people are allowed a warped view of our society. If that is the case, they are saying they don't like it here. They should leave. If I lived in pakistan and did not like it there, I should leave

You left New Zealand, Sprint. You did not like it there.

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 7:49pm:

Don't you think this dude has a warped view of Australian society Mothra?

I think Sprint has a warped view of Australian society.

I think you do too.

mothra wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 10:32pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 7:49pm: Don't you think this dude has a warped view of Australian society Mothra? I think Sprint has a warped view of Australian society. I think you do too.

Clearly this [a warped view of Australian society], is coz Sprint and the_good_ole_boys are NOT moslems, AND, they are expressing an opinion.


Whereas, it is so, so unlikely, that a group of moslems would ever have a warped view of the world/Australia.

Coz, they are,          .....moslems.

Right ?            :)



And everyone knows.....


easel said...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1444209868/6#6

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There is nothing wrong with Muslims or Islam.

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IMAGE...
http://pickeringpost.com/kyola/resources/articles/Ninevah_ISIS_Gay_Execution-1200x700_c.jpg

Don't ever suggest to mothra, that anything could be wrong with the moslem worldview !       LOL      

Yadda wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 10:32pm: the good ole boys wrote on Dec 16th, 2015 at 7:49pm: Don't you think this dude has a warped view of Australian society Mothra? I think Sprint has a warped view of Australian society. I think you do too. Clearly this [a warped view of Australian society], is coz Sprint and the_good_ole_boys are NOT moslems, AND, they are expressing an opinion.

No. They are expressing hatred.

Don't you have a problem with hatred Yadda?

I don't have a problem with hatred.
I see it as a perfectly normal part of life.

Unless everything is perfect in this world, you must expect some unpleasantness.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:33pm:

I don't have a problem with hatred. I see it as a perfectly normal part of life. Unless everything is perfect in this world, you must expect some unpleasantness.

Not particularly Christian of you Sprint.

Although i've asked you many times, you never did tell me. What particular branch of Christianity are you an adherent of?

*crickets chirping*

Actually I have to say, I really don't think Muslims should live in Australia either.

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:48am:

Actually I have to say, I really don't think Muslims should live in Australia either.

For what reason/s, exactly?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:58am:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 9:48am: Actually I have to say, I really don't think Muslims should live in Australia either. For what reason/s, exactly?

Err........, coz every moslem is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac.



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Evidence in support of my contention.

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IMAGE...
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam2.jpg



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"



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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A20EQ4TCYAAod7h.jpg

Street protest in Sydney, 2012,      .....by Mohammedans.




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The best evidence i can find for a counter-argument is this.              :)

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


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YT KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE "...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems." "....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God." "...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God." "...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM." "...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does." "...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]" "...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 9:58am:

For what reason/s, exactly?

Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. They won't see any migrant group as being Australian unless that migrant group abandons their culture and adopts Anglo European cultural practices. Australians also demonize migrant groups and use them as political pawns to further bigoted policies.

Also, you lack freedom in Australia.

Furthermore, to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England and I'm not sure how a Muslim can honestly swear an oath to a monarch like that.

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 9:58am: For what reason/s, exactly? Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. They won't see any migrant group as being Australian unless that migrant group abandons their culture and adopts Anglo European cultural practices. Australians also demonize migrant groups and use them as political pawns to further bigoted policies. Also, you lack freedom in Australia. Furthermore, to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England and I'm not sure how a Muslim can honestly swear an oath to a monarch like that.

Your knowledge of the subject is formidable.

Officially called the "Pledge of Commitment":
From this time forward, (under God),I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey.
All new citizens have the choice of making the pledge with or without the words 'under God'.

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

... to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England ...

If that were true, it would be an oath to the Queen of Australia.

However, it's not true.

"From this time forward
I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,
whose democratic beliefs I share,
whose rights and liberties I respect, and
whose laws I will uphold and obey."

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Citi/Australian-citizenship-pledge

issuevoter wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Your knowledge of the subject is formidable. Officially called the "Pledge of Commitment": From this time forward, (under God),I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey. All new citizens have the choice of making the pledge with or without the words 'under God'.

Oh great lol, so they don't have to swear an oath to the system of government or a Constitution.. Just the idea of 'Australia'.

Well why the hell would they expect Muslims that migrate to Australia to not want to bring their own beliefs about a system of government with them?

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:42am: ... to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England ... If that were true, it would be an oath to the Queen of Australia. However, it's not true. "From this time forward I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey." https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Citi/Australian-citizenship-pledge

"Australia" and it's "people"

So what is "Australia" peccary ? Australia Corp, Independent Australia, Crown Australia, Bank of England Australia, Rule of Law Australia ... or maybe it's just plain ol' Peccary Australia. God help us

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 1:49pm: Lafayette wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:42am: ... to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England ... If that were true, it would be an oath to the Queen of Australia. However, it's not true. "From this time forward I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey." https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Citi/Citi/Australian-citizenship-pledge "Australia" and it's "people"

That's correct.

Commonwealth Consolidated Acts
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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 1
Legislative power

                   The legislative power of the Commonwealth shall be vested in a Federal Parliament, which shall consist of the Queen, a Senate, and a House of Representatives, and which is hereinafter called The Parliament , or The Parliament of the Commonwealth .


The Oath is sworn to the Queen by default. No need to display your ignorance any further peccary

Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:49pm:

Commonwealth Consolidated Acts [Index] [Table] [Search] [Search this Act] [Notes] [Noteup] [Previous] [Download] [Help] COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 1 Legislative power                    The legislative power of the Commonwealth shall be vested in a Federal Parliament, which shall consist of the Queen, a Senate, and a House of Representatives, and which is hereinafter called The Parliament , or The Parliament of the Commonwealth . The Oath is sworn to the Queen by default. No need to display your ignorance any further peccary

"to become an Australian you have to swear an oath to the Queen of England"

No, you do not swear an oath to ANY Queen at all.

Indirectly, however, you are pledging loyalty to the Queen of Australia.

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 10:42am:

Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap.

What else would a muslim say about aussies

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Well why the hell would they expect Muslims that migrate to Australia to not want to bring their own beliefs about a system of government with them?

Are you saying all muslims prefer a caliphate with sharia law?

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:01pm:

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:42am: Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. What else would a muslim say about aussies

Own goal    ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:01pm: Lafayette wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:42am: Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. What else would a muslim say about aussies Own goal    ;D

We're not just racists we are super racists according to this muslim, does he/she know muslims are not a race?

Super racists? If Australians are so faulty and bad then why does everybody want to live in the country they built?

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:11pm:

Super racists? If Australians are so faulty and bad then why does everybody want to live in the country they built?

Centrelink?

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:13pm:

the good ole boys wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:11pm: Super racists? If Australians are so faulty and bad then why does everybody want to live in the country they built? Centrelink?

Definitely one of the things. Also peace, wealth opportunity , healthcare, education etc etc. Not bad for a bunch of super racists hey?

Lafayette wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 1:49pm:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 1:41pm: Your knowledge of the subject is formidable. Officially called the "Pledge of Commitment": From this time forward, (under God),I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people,whose democratic beliefs I share,whose rights and liberties I respect, andwhose laws I will uphold and obey. All new citizens have the choice of making the pledge with or without the words 'under God'. Oh great lol, so they don't have to swear an oath to the system of government or a Constitution.. Just the idea of 'Australia'. Well why the hell would they expect Muslims that migrate to Australia to not want to bring their own beliefs about a system of government with them?

That is not the point. You said they have to swear an oath to the Queen of England. You were not just wrong, you didn't do your homework before making a statement of fact. Don't expect anyone to cut you any slack around here.

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:02pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:01pm: Lafayette wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:42am: Because Australians in general are super racist and treats migrants like crap. What else would a muslim say about aussies Own goal    ;D We're not just racists we are super racists according to this muslim, does he/she know muslims are not a race?

Own goal   ;D