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Title: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Kiron22 on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:09pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clC_vIlbtME

arguments against?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Swagman on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:09pm:

arguments against?

.....one or two

[list bull-blackball]

you must like the idea, so it must be a commie plot to bring down the capitalists and for world domination

[list bull-blackball]

Land owners (purchasers) already pay land rates. Which is just land tax.

[list bull-blackball]

Most already have progressive income tax extorted from their reward for risk and efforts. They are taxed enough already

[list bull-blackball]

Most have acquired their land using their hard earned which they have already paid friggin tax on

[list bull-blackball]

That guy was a full on drop kick and anything he thinks is a good idea has to be the total opposite :D

[list bull-blackball]

Property prices are inflated in the main because Boomers are investing their retirement savings into property because the share market is too volatile and the cash rate is too low. They can get both an income and a growth asset to fund their retirement. Not some stupid conspiracy theory from the student union brainwash sessions

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:10pm

https://www.prosper.org.au/

Excellent idea

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:15pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:09pm:

arguments against?

.....one or two

[list bull-blackball]

you must like the idea, so it must be a commie plot to bring down the capitalists and for world domination

Attacking the source of an argument does not refute the argument.

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

[list bull-blackball]

Land owners (purchasers) already pay land rates. Which is just land tax.

Council rates fund council services such as garbage collection and maintenance of local roads.

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

[list bull-blackball]

Most already have progressive income tax extorted from their reward for risk and efforts. They are taxed enough already

A counter-argument: people who buy property are taxed heavily on purchase with stamp duty, but pay nothing thereafter apart from council rates. Introducing land tax would allow stamp duty to be reduced to more sensible levels and provide a much-needed broadening of the tax base.

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

[list bull-blackball]

Most have acquired their land using their hard earned which they have already paid friggin tax on

That is how the GST works. Does that mean you are opposed to the GST? :-?

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

[list bull-blackball]

That guy was a full on drop kick and anything he thinks is a good idea has to be the total opposite :D

Attacking the source of an argument does not refute the argument.

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

[list bull-blackball]

Irrelevant.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

The current tax regime is inefficient and unbalanced. People often pay tens of thousands of dollars to change houses, which they often must do for work reasons. The punitive tax on moving house also causes people to hold on to houses they would be better off selling (eg: empty nesters) and it causes the housing stock to be inefficiently allocated. Meanwhile, other people who hold on to houses for decades pay no tax at all.

Introducing land tax and reducing stamp duty to a level that only covers the administration costs of the title transfer would broaden the tax base and allow housing stock to be allocated more efficiently.

See also: Chapter 6: Land and resource taxes (Henry Tax Review, December 2009)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by davo on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm

I cant see rents not skyrocketing, zero chance a landlord would absorb this cost.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:58pm

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

that's a very big IF .... the govt. is so dependent on stamp duty it would want to keep both. Look at NSW, they have a land tax and you still pay stamp duty

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by davo on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

that's a very big IF .... the govt. is so dependent on stamp duty it would want to keep both. Look at NSW, they have a land tax and you still pay stamp duty

JS I live in NSW whats this lands tax ?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:03pm

oh dear wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

that's a very big IF .... the govt. is so dependent on stamp duty it would want to keep both. Look at NSW, they have a land tax and you still pay stamp duty

JS I live in NSW whats this lands tax ?

payable on investment properties over a certain amount.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by davo on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:08pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:03pm:

oh dear wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

that's a very big IF .... the govt. is so dependent on stamp duty it would want to keep both. Look at NSW, they have a land tax and you still pay stamp duty

JS I live in NSW whats this lands tax ?

payable on investment properties over a certain amount.

So an extra tax on top of CGT?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:19pm

oh dear wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:03pm:

oh dear wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

that's a very big IF .... the govt. is so dependent on stamp duty it would want to keep both. Look at NSW, they have a land tax and you still pay stamp duty

JS I live in NSW whats this lands tax ?

payable on investment properties over a certain amount.

So an extra tax on top of CGT?

Yes ... I moved from NSW 8+ yrs ago, so not sure if it's changed in the meantime, but prior to that I was paying almost $1500 a year in land tax and I still had to pay the CGT when I sold the property. (I had paid the fall amount of stamp duty when I purchased it too).

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 7:31am

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

Implementing land tax would be a good idea if it replaced stamp duty.

that's a very big IF .... the govt. is so dependent on stamp duty it would want to keep both. Look at NSW, they have a land tax and you still pay stamp duty

NSW Stamp duty - inefficient narrow tax on people moving house
NSW land tax - narrow tax on investment properties

The land tax should be broadened to cover all properties and stamp duty on property transfers lowered to about $500 to $1000. If done correctly, the broadened land tax replaces stamp duty as a major source of revenue.

The Henry tax review recommended a tax-free threshold based on value per square metre for land tax so low-value land is exempt, such as land under primary production.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Swagman on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 7:31am

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:19pm:

Yes ... I moved from NSW 8+ yrs ago, so not sure if it's changed in the meantime

So it's your fault we can't win the origin any more?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by aquascoot on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 7:34am

This would be a disaster for the scooter.

but, then again, it may lead to selling pressure and buying opportunities.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:49am

Swagman wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 7:31am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 10:19pm:

Yes ... I moved from NSW 8+ yrs ago, so not sure if it's changed in the meantime

So it's your fault we can't win the origin any more?

you've no idea how hard it is living here at origin time :D :D :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Swagman on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:20am

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

...so you are becoming an anti-ochlocrat?

Good for you.... :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:22am

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

Huh?

Everyone I know (including us) who owns investment properties here in NSW pays land tax. It comes round once a yr...like a freaking fine with an official deadline and a warning for late/non payment :'(

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by aquascoot on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:30am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

In QLD you pay on investment land once you get over a threshold of land value of about 600,000.

thats unimproved land value. so most people with one investment property in qld would be exempt.

i have to turnover 20,000 dollars off my 2 properties or they are deemed as land being held for investment .
working agricultural land is also exempt.

thankfully i can juggles stock and get over this figure on both.

the land tax take would be 2.5 % otherwise which on a million dollars of rural land (not a place of residence) would be 25,000.
my rates are only 2000, so this is a lot. (ie land tax on a rural property would be 12 x the cost of rates)
in fact, you would be better off declaring stock sales of 20,000 and paying tax on that then you would not selling stock and having to front up the land tax.

if they alter these laws for agricultural land it will have a huge effect on peoples willingness to be primary producers

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:30am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

Owner occupiers are exempt.

The Henry tax review (2009) recommended that land taxes apply to all properties over a threshold value per square metre, in exchange for reducing stamp duty on property transfers to a more sensible level. This isn't a proposal just for NSW. It should apply in every state and territory.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:39am

Swagman wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

...so you are becoming an anti-ochlocrat?

Good for you.... :D

You're missing the big picture.

People who sell a house and buy another end up paying large taxes each time. Why tax people simply for moving house? That is crazy.

People who spend decades living in the same house are not paying tax. They need to be brought into the tax system.

Effective tax rate falls with occupancy duration

Increased tax rate on people who move

Source: Henry Tax Review, Chapter 6: Land and resource taxes

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:51am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

I see.

Killing incentive.

Not good for Australia.

Fair enough.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 10:54am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

If the proposals under the Henry tax review were implemented, this problem would be fixed. An alternative to the Henry proposals would be to exempt land under primary production but tax the farmhouse like any other residence. Farmers use community services too, so should be expected to make a fair contribution.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

only if not retrospective. we've already paid stamp duty an now u think we should pay land tax as well? find for new purchases or perhaps those who ahve not been sold for 30 years or more. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab and we know stamp durty will return anyhow.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

Longy is back - what happened to Maria?

Good to see you've got some trousers on. ;D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:07pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:09pm:

arguments against?

.....one or two

[list bull-blackball]

you must like the idea, so it must be a commie plot to bring down the capitalists and for world domination

[list bull-blackball]

Land owners (purchasers) already pay land rates. Which is just land tax.

[list bull-blackball]

Most already have progressive income tax extorted from their reward for risk and efforts. They are taxed enough already

[list bull-blackball]

Most have acquired their land using their hard earned which they have already paid friggin tax on

[list bull-blackball]

That guy was a full on drop kick and anything he thinks is a good idea has to be the total opposite :D

[list bull-blackball]

Not their second, third, forth.... properties due to generous negative gearing tax concessions. They offload their risk onto other tax payers :(

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:56pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

Longy is back - what happened to Maria?

Good to see you've got some trousers on. ;D

the same thing that happened to gold medal :D LOL

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

I see you are still avoiding answering the questions :D :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:31pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

I see you are still avoiding answering the questions :D :D

thats coz u ask off-topic questions twit. coz u dont know what is actually going on. you are too slow.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

I see you are still avoiding answering the questions :D :D

thats coz u ask off-topic questions twit. coz u dont know what is actually going on. you are too slow.

I know exactly what's going on, it wasn't proposed by the libs therefore it's no good. After the next election, when the libs propose the same thing, it'll be the answer to all our prayers and you'll be defending it to the hilt. :D :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 6:50pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

I see you are still avoiding answering the questions :D :D

thats coz u ask off-topic questions twit. coz u dont know what is actually going on. you are too slow.

it wasnt even poposed by labor, idiot.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 8:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 6:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

. otherwise it is just a merciless tax grab

as opposed to increasing the GST , right?

i see nothing has changed in your comprehensions skills, dopey

I see you are still avoiding answering the questions :D :D

thats coz u ask off-topic questions twit. coz u dont know what is actually going on. you are too slow.

it wasnt even poposed by labor, idiot.

I didn't say it was .... and you reckon you wrote two books. I don't see how, you have the comprehension skills of a gnat.

Here, I'll repeat what I said for you

John Smith wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 5:35pm:

it wasn't proposed by the libs therefore it's no good.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

There would need to be sensible transitional arrangements. I wouldn't support introducing land tax if its introduction meant someone could pay land tax at the full rate right after paying stamp duty at the full rate.

The ACT are phasing in land tax over 20 years by progressively reducing stamp duty and introducing land tax at the same time.

Another way to do it would be to treat stamp duty as a pre-payment of land tax so anyone who paid stamp duty recently was exempt from land tax until the accrued land tax since stamp duty was paid exceeded the stamp duty paid.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by cods on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:30am

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

Bam wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 9:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 24^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

We pay land tax here in NSW.

Lucky us :'(

Not everyone does. That is the problem.

land values go up and up every year....

and so would their land tax grab....

stamp duty because of the big prices is now an embarrassment.....

people are horrified at how much govt take its pure greed.. nothing else..

but as per usual the States cannot live without it..

so the Henry report used the good old smoke and mirrors...sleight of hand that we all used to fall for years ago...

and some still do .. by the sound of this..

when my land tax and rates increase its because of the price someone got for their hose down the street....

it has nothing to do with increased services... or quality of our way of life..

its just a means to Govts getting as much of our money as they can .. without us all screaming and trying to get our hands on them.....

its called now you see it now you dont..

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by cods on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:33am

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

you only pay stamp duty if you buy and sell..

if you never do either...

you still will pay land tax....FOR WHAT??????????..... really FOR WHAT?

its just another TAX with a fancy name

just call it what it is..

A TAX GRAB... because they can.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:37am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST

Is that not a merciless tax grab? :D :D :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:40am

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST

Is that not a merciless tax grab? :D :D :D

nope. everyone pays it equally.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:43am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST

Is that not a merciless tax grab? :D :D :D

nope. everyone pays it equally.

bullsh1t .... those with the money get around the GST the same way they do now.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:30am

cods wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:33am:

you only pay stamp duty if you buy and sell..

That is the problem with it. It's a great big tax on moving house. Why tax people hard when they move house but not at all if they don't?

cods wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:33am:

if you never do either [buy or sell]...

Then you're not contributing tax (though renters do end up contributing for the landlord's land tax if applicable).

cods wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:33am:

you still will pay land tax....FOR WHAT??????????..... really FOR WHAT?

The same services that are currently funded with stamp duty.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:39am

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST

Is that not a merciless tax grab? :D :D :D

nope. everyone pays it equally.

bullsh1t .... those with the money get around the GST the same way they do now.

why dont you enlighten us, stupid-one about how that takes place?

idiot.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 4:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:39am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST

Is that not a merciless tax grab? :D :D :D

nope. everyone pays it equally.

bullsh1t .... those with the money get around the GST the same way they do now.

why dont you enlighten us, stupid-one about how that takes place?

idiot.

you've never claimed back the gst for your home printer through your business longie? :D :D

you're so stupid you don't even know what you are doing! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

Do you seriously think landlords won't pass on their costs?

I also notice that you've not made any constructive contributions to this discussion, but just criticised other people's contributions laced with your usual personal abuse. I suggest you start acting like a grown-up and make some remarks on your views about land tax and stamp duty. Which do you think is better and why?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

and GST is? :D :D :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Swagman on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:02pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

and GST is? :D :D :D

...the Good and Services tax :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Now your arguments are getting quite silly. Let's fit 15 people into a one-bedroom flat, yeah right. ::)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:10pm

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

yes longloser never has an opinion himself but rather just bags everyone else's opinion he doesn't agree with. It was really peaceful without him ;)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:32pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

and GST is? :D :D :D

...the Good and Services tax :D

we have a farken genius in our midst folks. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Swagman on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal

Make it a Poll tax then.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:33pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 2:10pm:

rather just bags everyone else's opinion he doesn't agree with.

no, correction!

he just bags everyone else's opinions that the liberal party doesn't agree with

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:31pm

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Now your arguments are getting quite silly. Let's fit 15 people into a one-bedroom flat, yeah right. ::)

I am sure if you tried you could become more stupid and foolish. the above is an example of some of your better work to that end

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Now your arguments are getting quite silly. Let's fit 15 people into a one-bedroom flat, yeah right. ::)

I am sure if you tried you could become more stupid and foolish. the above is an example of some of your better work to that end

And as always you resort to personal attacks when being soundly beaten in a discussion. I accept your surrender. Let's discuss the terms of your surrender. You can start by posting some opinions of your own rather than bagging other people's, refraining from making any more personal attacks and start acting like an adult.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

I am sure if you tried you could become more stupid and foolish. the above is an example of some of your better work to that end

I agree ... with a bit of work he could look as stupid and as foolish as you!

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Now your arguments are getting quite silly. Let's fit 15 people into a one-bedroom flat, yeah right. ::)

I am sure if you tried you could become more stupid and foolish. the above is an example of some of your better work to that end

you engage in a ridiculous style of debate because you dont like being beaten or asked to explain yourself. maybe your fell-travellers are content with your drivel but I am not. you hate business, you hate business owners and are diabolically envious of rich people.

bad luck. I am both. and i can eat you alive in any debate and have.

must suck not to be able to ban me like in your old defunct forum you and your 5 other mates had.

idjit.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 8:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Now your arguments are getting quite silly. Let's fit 15 people into a one-bedroom flat, yeah right. ::)

I am sure if you tried you could become more stupid and foolish. the above is an example of some of your better work to that end

Do you really think personal attacks are a valid debating style?

Reported.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

bad luck. I am both. and i can eat you alive in any debate and have.

;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D

you should tell your doctor the dementia medication he gave you isn't working.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

yeh you got two dicks for christmas and you've got one hand on each one. :D LOL

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Setanta on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 11:30pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

yeh you got two dicks for christmas and you've got one hand on each one. :D LOL

Perhaps he got three 'cause that post sounds like he's gargling.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 1:27am

Thing about dear old Longy is that he/she never learns that personal abuse will not be tolerated.. so Andrei said... but then Andrei thinks that politicians actually receive their pay rises from an independent tribunal, even though the members of that tribunal get the same rise as the one they give politicians.... ;D ;D ;D

I still say a guy who can afford a multi-million dollar upgrade to his business could afford a laptop instead of using an iPhone and suffering the disadvantage of not holding his own in grammar etc..... ::)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:57am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

Renters already pay land tax. It is one of the landlords' costs that landlords pass on in their rent.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Bam on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 9:03am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

Discussing anything with you is like playing chess with a pigeon.

That image describes your debating style very well.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:03am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

People can't afford housing in this country because of all of the corporate welfare dished out to landlords under the guise of helping out renters. All it has done is just over-inflate house prices and rent :(

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:26am

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:03am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

Hear hear sir Nail,

get rid of negative gearing

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir Bobby on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 11:25am

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

So Longy is an Ebay seller not a university professor. ;D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

So Longy is an Ebay seller not a university professor. ;D

He's mentioned in several psychology works, and has published two books while working millions of upgrades into his company...... that first bit is a worry.....

I think he's Charles Manson on parole...

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:05pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

So Longy is an Ebay seller not a university professor. ;D

Yep batshit crazy that one :D

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:06pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:03am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

Besides, it's this conservative government that wants to tax the family home, especially in retirement via pension cuts for owning too much, and this after getting not a thing while paying off a mortgage for years .... this is quite distinct from investment properties that garner all the goodies and only ever inflate the price of housing so more and more people are forced into renting...

The issue of deeming a family home to be edible goods and thus reducing pension has been done to death.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:18pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

So Longy is an Ebay seller not a university professor. ;D

"Psychology works" but is totally delusional when it becomes to religion :D LOL

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Sir lastnail on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

So Longy is an Ebay seller not a university professor. ;D

It kind of makes sense the way he is totally dismissive of the NBN and peoples ability to easily download movies rather than buy them from him ;)

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Baronvonrort on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:24pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:03am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

The posters who want to bring in a new tax for home owners are green supporters and leftists.

Making homeowners pay land tax is a new tax.

Cutting government waste with spending is a better option to bringing in new taxes.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 4:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 11:25am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Bam wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

No you're not. You're a 57-year-old man from South Australia who sells DVDs on eBay.

Do tell us more ;)

So Longy is an Ebay seller not a university professor. ;D

I don't believe he ever claimed to be a uni lecturer ... he said he holds training seminars and advises on waterways etc ... occasionally he hires phd's etc to lecture at these seminars.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by John Smith on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 4:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:24pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 10:03am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

I see the renters who could never afford to buy a home want to tax those who could by putting a tax on the family home.

don't be such a drama queen .. the general gist of the conversation is that land tax replace stamp duty. Many places already have land tax ... it's not new at all.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by mariacostel on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 27^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:41am:

Bam wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 9:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Bam wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

Bam wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:34pm:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST. that way the load is shared by all.

The tax burden would also be shared by all if land tax was levied on all properties but it is a better solution because it's not a great big tax whack on low-income people like the GST is.

your iq has obviously taken a turn for the worse. how can it be 'shared by all' if it is only paid by landowners??

land tax is the same in a house of one as in a house with 15. it is NOT equal.

Now your arguments are getting quite silly. Let's fit 15 people into a one-bedroom flat, yeah right. ::)

I am sure if you tried you could become more stupid and foolish. the above is an example of some of your better work to that end

Do you really think personal attacks are a valid debating style?

Reported.

and the cry-baby whining continues....

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Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by The Grappler on Dec 28^th, 2015 at 6:17pm

As do the childish ripostes... oh, well - it was quiet and peaceful for a day or two.... now we've got Longy and mania back and matty lurking somewhere on the sidelines...

Should be a fun few days..

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 5:21pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 10:39am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 8:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

or do away with stamp duty and payroll tax entirely by widening the GST

Is that not a merciless tax grab? :D :D :D

nope. everyone pays it equally.

bullsh1t .... those with the money get around the GST the same way they do now.

why dont you enlighten us, stupid-one about how that takes place?

idiot.

you've never claimed back the gst for your home printer through your business longie? :D :D

you're so stupid you don't even know what you are doing! ;D ;D ;D

no. obviously you are a tax theif which surprises no one.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by mothra on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 5:39pm

*thief

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 7:25pm

mothra wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 5:39pm:

*thief

you finally found a response to match the depth of your thinking...

you are officially a mindless spell checker.

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by mothra on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 8:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 7:25pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 5:39pm:

*thief

you finally found a response to match the depth of your thinking...

you are officially a mindless spell checker.

No need to get hostile because you have trouble spelling, Longy.

Year 4 English, innit?

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by SupositoryofWisdom on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 10:14pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 7:25pm:

mothra wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 5:39pm:

*thief

you finally found a response to match the depth of your thinking...

you are officially a mindless spell checker.

Happens to the best of us mate :)

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/i-before-e-except-after-c

Title: Re: Universal Land Tax for Australia?
Post by Swagman on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 10:22pm

mothra wrote on Dec 31^st, 2015 at 5:39pm:

*thief

AKA ochlocrat......