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Message started by freediver on Jan 8th, 2016 at 3:13pm

Title: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by freediver on Jan 8th, 2016 at 3:13pm




Melbourne man faces stiff opposition to penis signature

http://www.theage.com.au/national/melbourne-man-faces-stiff-opposition-to-penis-signature-20160106-gm0sx6.html

Jared Hyams' signature started as a joke.

Suspecting that no one at the Australian Electoral Commission would scrutinise the application to change his address, he scribbled a caricature of a penis in the box that asked for a signature.

"I thought it would be a laugh; they would approve it and next year I would sign something different," the 33-year-old said.

"But when I did this signature all of a sudden the poo hit the fan. I was receiving letters and phone calls telling me I couldn't have it. I thought, that's interesting, why not?"

And so began a five year battle with state and federal government agencies over the question of what constitutes a legitimate signature. The phallic symbol Mr Hyams illustrated with the finesse of a bored schoolboy was also the catalyst for starting the law degree he is due to complete this year.

"It sparked something in me," he said. "I didn't understand if these people were offended or had taken it personally."

Mr Hyams decided to officially adopt the penis-shaped signature as his own and set about applying for a passport, drivers' licence and proof of age card. But the Blackburn South man soon found that bureaucrats did not share his amusement for his little doodle.

The AEC refused Mr Hyams' enrolment at the new address and his appeal to overturn that decision was dismissed for being "frivolous, vexatious" and a waste of taxpayer's money.
The AEC, which eventually processed the form without any signature, would later use its annual report to refer to its victory in the "rather novel" case.

VicRoads initially rejected what it called an offensive "diagram" that was capable of being copied and might "create uncertainty and confusion". Mr Hyams fought that decision in court, but it was twice thrown out by a magistrate. He was told his behaviour bordered on contempt and was lectured about wasting the court's time.

The Department of Trade and Foreign Affairs, which refused to process his application for a passport, warned that including images of a sexual nature on official paperwork "could constitute sexual harassment" of government staff.

The Department of Justice also knocked back his application for a Working with Children Check, although Mr Hyams said he "has some sensitivity to that position".

But the self-described "sceptic of everything" said the refusal by other government departments to allow him to choose how he signs official documents only stirred him on further.

"What a signature is comes down to the function, not the actual form," he said. "Generally, it's a person putting a mark on a piece of paper by their own hand. As soon as you start defining what a signature is you run into problems - if it's meant to be someone's name how do we define that because most signatures are just illegible scribble."

Eventually, Mr Hyams slipped the John Hancock past Victorian government officials. His old VicRoads driver's licence, and the new one issued by the agency two weeks ago, both bear the masculine symbol.

The Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation also dropped the ball: the male genitalia rests above the crest of the state government logo on his proof of age card.

Mr Hyams has used it to sign his federal government-issued health care card, open a bank account, become a member of a library and apply for various student identity cards.

It has caused some confusion during his studies, when exam invigilators have inquired if it's genuine. And a tutor once refused to mark an assessment because the plagiarism declaration form was signed with the caricature.

Mr Hyams said he's not quite sure why he chose this signature and said on reflection he would have picked a different symbol.

But he said he will now only change it when it no longer served its purpose. That is, when federal government departments withdraw their stiff opposition to the signature.

"It's been an interesting journey," Mr Hyams said. "But none of it is resolved. Everything is just left hanging."

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by miketrees on Jan 8th, 2016 at 6:40pm
Isn't John Hancock a synonym for a signature.

He should be allowed to put whatever he likes as a signature

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by boxy on Jan 8th, 2016 at 11:31pm
In the end, the bureaucrats will win.

Trolling is much less fun in real life, when you've got to queue for hours, just to be told your sig isn't acceptable, and to come back later, to have the same discussion with a someone else... multiple times.

And then having to do it again, for every department you need to interact with.

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by mothra on Jan 8th, 2016 at 11:32pm
Pretty easy to forge signature.

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by boxy on Jan 8th, 2016 at 11:41pm
Signatures are a joke anyway. They only get a cursory glance most of the time.

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by cods on Jan 9th, 2016 at 6:51am
5 years in the making.... I love it..


why is a [picture] of a penis offensive???...

if it was boobs or bums it wouldnt be!..

now we have the Chris Gayle saga...

I worry about this country more and more...

weve gone barking mad...


Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 9th, 2016 at 7:12am
I'm glad the law forbids this kind of pornographic signature.

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 9th, 2016 at 8:20am

cods wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 6:51am:
why is a [picture] of a penis offensive???...


In this case, it could be anti-Semitism.


Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by The_Barnacle on Jan 9th, 2016 at 9:49am

Quote:
The Department of Justice also knocked back his application for a Working with Children Check, although Mr Hyams said he "has some sensitivity to that position".


That one made me laugh
To submit an application for a working with children check..........and then sign it with a cock and balls. Very inappropriate.

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by gandalf on Jan 9th, 2016 at 10:00am
What a dick

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by cods on Jan 9th, 2016 at 10:35am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 9:49am:

Quote:
The Department of Justice also knocked back his application for a Working with Children Check, although Mr Hyams said he "has some sensitivity to that position".


That one made me laugh
To submit an application for a working with children check..........and then sign it with a cock and balls. Very inappropriate.



I would expect it to have quite a few disadvantages......

I have to smile  about this though...

he has won his battle...

and yet we are getting all agitated and high and mighty about Chris Gayle....


we cant be prudes.......yet we are???? ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by Sun Tzu on Jan 9th, 2016 at 10:40am
The guy is a publicity-seeking clown with evident mental health issues and a death wish in regard to employability.

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by cods on Jan 9th, 2016 at 10:46am

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 10:40am:
The guy is a publicity-seeking clown with evident mental health issues and a death wish in regard to employability.



hadnt thought of that... now he could be starting a trend......oh dear!

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by miketrees on Jan 9th, 2016 at 12:03pm
There is a vast difference between having a penis as a signature and signing your signature with a penis.

Perhaps people got confused?

Title: Re: Man faces stiff opposition to penis signature
Post by Maqqa on Jan 9th, 2016 at 2:12pm
he'll get creamed for that


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