It just gets worse and worse. If it wasn't bad enough that they are in the process of gutting and then flogging off the fisherman benz factory to property developers we now find out they are developing an electric car for Detroit but not here. Why didn't they do that here for all of the billions we payed them ?? :(

What a bunch of deceitful crooks. Give us all of that money back you front bottoms :(

http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/the-30000-electric-car-designed-by-holden-in-australia-that-will-never-be-sold-here/news-story/c3c305c411c938fe4393b22543bd3362


Quote:

The $30,000 electric car designed by Holden in Australia that will never be sold here HOLDEN has designed an electric car for its parent company General Motors in Detroit — but the space-age vehicle may never be sold in Australia even though the concept car was built in Port Melbourne. The Chevrolet Bolt can travel 320km on battery power alone and is expected to cost just $30,000 when it eventually goes on sale — about the same price as a top-line Toyota Corolla — once US government tax incentives are taken into account. In a major coup for Holden’s team of 140 designers, the 2015 Detroit motor show is the first time the company has unveiled two concept cars at one international event, following yesterday’s unveiling of a new Buick luxury car likely to be made in China. To cap it off, the vehicle was unveiled by former Holden boss Alan Batey, a Briton who is now in charge of the Chevrolet brand globally. When asked if this was General Motors’ rival to the Tesla electric car, Mr Batey said: “Tesla’s average transaction price is $100,000. They’re for the rich and famous, this is for the people. I haven’t seen Tesla with anything like this in the market with this (price).” Mr Batey would not say when the Chevrolet Bolt (a play on words with its plug-in hybrid stablemate, the Volt) would go into production but indications are that its showroom arrival in a few years is a formality. “We’re going to gauge the reaction from today ... but we’re pretty convinced this is the right vehicle at the right time,” said Mr Batey. “We would not have today come here and talked about 200 miles (range) and $30,000 if we didn’t really didn’t know how to make that happen.” Chief Holden designer Richard Ferlazzo, who also designed the Efijy concept, said it was a proud moment for the Holden styling team. “We’ve never had two concept cars at an international motor show before,” said Mr Ferlazzo. “It’s a very big deal for us, a great compliment for Holden.” About 50 of Holden’s 140 designers worked on the vehicle in conjunction with GM’s studios in South Korea and the US. But Holden added the finishing touches and built the concept car in an anonymous industrial complex adjacent to Holden’s head office in Port Melbourne. The photos distributed to media were taken on the rooftop of Holden’s staff car park. However, Mr Batey stopped short of saying whether the vehicle would be made in both left- and right-hand-drive, meaning that Australia may miss out on the car it had a hand in creating. Just 132 electric cars were sold in Australia last year and the Holden is unlikely to take the second generation Volt plug-in hybrid, also unveiled at the Detroit show, because of slow sales. General Motors made the first mass produced electric car in the modern era, the EV1, between 1996 and 1999. At first the EV1 was made with heavy and inefficient Lead Acid batteries, initially with a range of 97km and then following an update 161km. Later models were equipped with Nickel Metal Hydride batteries which increased maximum driving range in ideal conditions to 257km. GM made 2234 of the bubble-shaped two-seat, two-door vehicles which were leased rather than sold to customers outright. That’s why they were able to be seized and destroyed when the company shut down the program, as depicted in the movie Who Killed The Electric Car? However, about 40 EV1s were donated to museums, minus much of their technology and battery systems.

longie will cry  ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:

longie will cry  ;D ;D ;D

It's just more proof that longprong69 has lost the plot !!

And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team.  Funny that. at some point in time the renter-nail might get a handle on 'economies of scale'.  Or not.  not that it matters, the liar-nail will never buy an EV anyhow.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team

why would they longstupidone? according to you EV's are a pipe dream for the very rich.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team.  Funny that. at some point in time the renter-nail might get a handle on 'economies of scale'.  Or not.  not that it matters, the liar-nail will never buy an EV anyhow.

Somehow as soon as it's got an electric motor in it Holden deems it's not suitable for Australia even though it will be made in economies of scale in Detroit :D LOL

bugger Holden and their games. They can jam it up their arse. At least Tesla is not hamstrung by the oil industry and will be producing a low cost EV which will be sold here as well. None of these bullshit games from detroit whilst scamming billions from the tax payers !! Holden and Ford are a total disgrace. I hope people stop buying their made in china cars !!

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 5:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:06pm: And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team.  Funny that. at some point in time the renter-nail might get a handle on 'economies of scale'.  Or not.  not that it matters, the liar-nail will never buy an EV anyhow. Somehow as soon as it's got an electric motor in it Holden deems it's not suitable for Australia even though it will be made in economies of scale in Detroit :D LOL bugger Holden and their games. They can jam it up their arse. At least Tesla is not hamstrung by the oil industry and will be producing a low cost EV which will be sold here as well. None of these bullshit games from detroit whilst scamming billions from the tax payers !! Holden and Ford are a total disgrace. I hope people stop buying their made in china cars !!

australia... 1M car sales
USA 18M car sales


now which part of 'economies of scale' do you actually undersand?  anything?

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 8:42am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:46pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:06pm: And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team.  Funny that. at some point in time the renter-nail might get a handle on 'economies of scale'.  Or not.  not that it matters, the liar-nail will never buy an EV anyhow. Somehow as soon as it's got an electric motor in it Holden deems it's not suitable for Australia even though it will be made in economies of scale in Detroit :D LOL bugger Holden and their games. They can jam it up their arse. At least Tesla is not hamstrung by the oil industry and will be producing a low cost EV which will be sold here as well. None of these bullshit games from detroit whilst scamming billions from the tax payers !! Holden and Ford are a total disgrace. I hope people stop buying their made in china cars !! australia... 1M car sales USA 18M car sales now which part of 'economies of scale' do you actually undersand?  anything?

well if you only make a small number and put a ridiculous price tag on the thing then of course you automatically kill off your own product right from the start which seems to be the pattern with fossil fool car manufacturers making electric or hybrid cars. Although toyota is trying to buck that trend.

Why does Holden put a 20K price tag on a Holden Cruze but then put a ridiculous 60K price tag on the hybrid version of the Cruze aka Volt ? It's total bullshit and you know it. Holden's agenda has always been to make old substandard junk whilst grabbing as much tax payers money as it could get away with :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 9:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:42am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:46pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:06pm: And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team.  Funny that. at some point in time the renter-nail might get a handle on 'economies of scale'.  Or not.  not that it matters, the liar-nail will never buy an EV anyhow. Somehow as soon as it's got an electric motor in it Holden deems it's not suitable for Australia even though it will be made in economies of scale in Detroit :D LOL bugger Holden and their games. They can jam it up their arse. At least Tesla is not hamstrung by the oil industry and will be producing a low cost EV which will be sold here as well. None of these bullshit games from detroit whilst scamming billions from the tax payers !! Holden and Ford are a total disgrace. I hope people stop buying their made in china cars !! australia... 1M car sales USA 18M car sales now which part of 'economies of scale' do you actually undersand?  anything? well if you only make a small number and put a ridiculous price tag on the thing then of course you automatically kill off your own product right from the start which seems to be the pattern with fossil fool car manufacturers making electric or hybrid cars. Although toyota is trying to buck that trend. Why does Holden put a 20K price tag on a Holden Cruze but then put a ridiculous 60K price tag on the hybrid version of the Cruze aka Volt ? It's total bullshit and you know it. Holden's agenda has always been to make old substandard junk whilst grabbing as much tax payers money as it could get away with :(

when YOU buy an EV, we will take you seriously. at the moment you are just a whiny tyre-kicker with NO EXCUSE for not owning and EV yourself.


WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE, BENT_NAIL?

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

It just gets worse and worse. What a bunch of deceitful crooks. Give us all of that money back you front bottoms :( http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/the-30000-electric-car-designed-by-holden-in-australia-that-will-never-be-sold-here/news-story/c3c305c411c938fe4393b22543bd3362 Quote: Just 132 electric cars were sold in Australia last year and the Holden is unlikely to take the second generation Volt plug-in hybrid, also unveiled at the Detroit show, because of slow sales.

Four times as many Maseratis were sold in Australia last year compared to electric cars with a pathetic 132 sold.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm: It just gets worse and worse. What a bunch of deceitful crooks. Give us all of that money back you front bottoms :( http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/the-30000-electric-car-designed-by-holden-in-australia-that-will-never-be-sold-here/news-story/c3c305c411c938fe4393b22543bd3362 Quote: Just 132 electric cars were sold in Australia last year and the Holden is unlikely to take the second generation Volt plug-in hybrid, also unveiled at the Detroit show, because of slow sales. Four times as many Maseratis were sold in Australia last year compared to electric cars with a pathetic 132 sold.

Australians have no money and are slow on the uptake. Probably would have exceeded 100,000 sales if a free case of cold beer was offered with each car.

Sun Tzu wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 12:38pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:35pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm: It just gets worse and worse. What a bunch of deceitful crooks. Give us all of that money back you front bottoms :( http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/the-30000-electric-car-designed-by-holden-in-australia-that-will-never-be-sold-here/news-story/c3c305c411c938fe4393b22543bd3362 Quote: Just 132 electric cars were sold in Australia last year and the Holden is unlikely to take the second generation Volt plug-in hybrid, also unveiled at the Detroit show, because of slow sales. Four times as many Maseratis were sold in Australia last year compared to electric cars with a pathetic 132 sold. Australians have no money and are slow on the uptake. Probably would have exceeded 100,000 sales if a free case of cold beer was offered with each car.

How many electric cars could a Maserati owner afford to buy?

Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

How many electric cars could a Maserati owner afford to buy?

Depends on how thirsty he is and whether he is prepared to shout his bank manager.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 9:11am: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15th, 2016 at 8:42am: Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:46pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:06pm: And in neews just to hand (at least to electric-nail) the world-regarded holden design team is being retained for just this purposes as is the Ford team.  Funny that. at some point in time the renter-nail might get a handle on 'economies of scale'.  Or not.  not that it matters, the liar-nail will never buy an EV anyhow. Somehow as soon as it's got an electric motor in it Holden deems it's not suitable for Australia even though it will be made in economies of scale in Detroit :D LOL bugger Holden and their games. They can jam it up their arse. At least Tesla is not hamstrung by the oil industry and will be producing a low cost EV which will be sold here as well. None of these bullshit games from detroit whilst scamming billions from the tax payers !! Holden and Ford are a total disgrace. I hope people stop buying their made in china cars !! australia... 1M car sales USA 18M car sales now which part of 'economies of scale' do you actually undersand?  anything? well if you only make a small number and put a ridiculous price tag on the thing then of course you automatically kill off your own product right from the start which seems to be the pattern with fossil fool car manufacturers making electric or hybrid cars. Although toyota is trying to buck that trend. Why does Holden put a 20K price tag on a Holden Cruze but then put a ridiculous 60K price tag on the hybrid version of the Cruze aka Volt ? It's total bullshit and you know it. Holden's agenda has always been to make old substandard junk whilst grabbing as much tax payers money as it could get away with :( when YOU buy an EV, we will take you seriously. at the moment you are just a whiny tyre-kicker with NO EXCUSE for not owning and EV yourself. WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE, BENT_NAIL?

and you are a transvestite waiting to save up for that operation ;)