MORE than 1200 children have been freed from detention centres since Operation Sovereign Borders was established, reducing, by 95 per cent, the number of juveniles locked up.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal there were 1342 children in detention when the Coalition government launched the controversial operation — but that the vast majority have now been released with just 79 remaining under lock and key.

The number of children in detention peaked at 1992 under Labor’s soft boats policy in July 2013, as more than 800 illegal boats arrived with 50,000 asylum seekers on board.

Seventy-two of the remaining children will be moved to Nauru within weeks where the centre is now an open facility and access is granted to the entire island.

The remaining seven are still awaiting their parents to receive security clearances.

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton said reducing the number of children in detention had been among the government’s core goals.

“It has been the main priority of this government and my personal priority to remove as many children from detention as possible,’’ he said.

Mr Dutton said the government would continue to work towards freeing all children from detention.

“The majority of remaining children in detention are due to return to Nauru and the other few remaining cases are the most difficult where there may be a security issue with the parent for example,’’ he said.

Operation Sovereign Borders and the government’s turnback policy has stopped the flow of illegal arrivals into Australia. In recent weeks, the immigration minister has been slammed by refugee groups and Labor over slow processing times for asylum seekers.

People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor.

Mr Dutton said the government was left to deal with a whopping legacy caseload left over from the previous government.

“Labor likes to forget that they ­allowed 8000 children to be smuggled on leaky boats under their watch,’’ he said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/operation-sovereign-borders-most-of-labors-asylum-children-are-set-free/news-story/7e973ddd50cd5965ebefa32ff2e3d3bb

the clamoring and cheering from the left is deafening isnt it..  ;D ;D ;D

well done libs..

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 7:49am:

the clamoring and cheering from the left is deafening isnt it..  ;D ;D ;D well done libs..

Gillian Triggs, how do you like that egg on your face? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Twiggy will undoubtedly be supporting the coalition's successful border policy coming up to the election.
:D :D :D :D :D

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

Disgusting.

1342 children in detention under Labor.
Disgusting.

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

Typical.

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

1342 children in detention under Labor. Disgusting.

dont forget the DEAD... :( :(

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor." Typical.

better off than DEAD

When will those on Naru & Manus be set free?

Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards.

"Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years"

New tourism slogan >:(

so 5% of children are still in detention after all this time? I wonder if they would take so long if it were their kids.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:22am:

When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:(

OMG what evidence is there of that???????..

put up a link please..

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

1342 children in detention under Labor. Disgusting.

Yep.  Absolutely disgusting.

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

Also disgusting.

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:22am: When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:( OMG what evidence is there of that???????.. put up a link please..

This ones not even on Naru or Manus but Xmas Island & in Australia


Quote:

Allegations of 33 cases of sexual abuse involving children in detention centres in Australia have emerged. Immigration department figures obtained by Fairfax Media show that there were 33 cases of alleged sexual assault involving children in Australian detention centres and Christmas Island between January 2013 and March 2014. The figures do not extend to Nauru or Manus.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex-abuse-claims-number-in-dozens-20140930-10o7pv.html


And here's the one dealing with Naru & Manus


Quote:

An independent review into sexual abuse inside Australia's detention centre on Nauru has found evidence of rape, sexual assault of minors and guards trading marijuana for sexual favours from female detainees.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rapes-sexual-assault-drugs-for-favours-in-australias-detention-centre-on-nauru-independent-moss-review-20150320-1m46za.html

You really think I make stuff up Cods?

I now look forward to you shooting the messenger instead of addressing the issue.

Oh & BTW - Here's our former PM's response


Quote:

Australian prime minister tells radio interviewer ‘occasionally ... things happen’ when asked about Moss review of immigration detainee safety on Nauru

At least he didn't say s.h.i.t this time I suppose.

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:22am: When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:( OMG what evidence is there of that???????.. put up a link please..

"child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres"

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm

"Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens"

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex-abuse-claims-number-in-dozens-20140930-10o7pv.html

I am glad to see these figures.  Shame after all the blustering it took nearly 3 years of Conalition rule.  And shame on both parties for letting it happen.

And please, no more harking about deaths under Labor.  So many died under the previous Liberal government that they built a monument in Canberra. (SIEV10 and others)   It looks like about even amount of poor soles lost under both governments.

more excellent work by the libs

well done...

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

more excellent work by the libs well done...

Nothing excellent about this:

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."


"Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens"

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

The kids should've asked to be deported to Syria , the Libs seem to be streamlining their applications  :(

Great, Pecker! We're in agreement; children in detention is terrible.  Therefore, under no circumstance can one vote Labor. 1342 to 79; numbers don't lie.

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

Great, Pecker! We're in agreement; children in detention is terrible.  Therefore, under n circumstance can one vote Labor. 1342 to 72; numbers don't lie.

Numbers don't lie.

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:22pm: Great, Pecker! We're in agreement; children in detention is terrible.  Therefore, under n circumstance can one vote Labor. 1342 to 72; numbers don't lie. Numbers don't lie. "People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to.

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:26pm:

They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to.

yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg

Basic deductive reasoning achievable by a 5 year old. Don't let Labor f#$k it up again. The mess Labor made has taken a long time to clean up. Don't let Labor  f#$ k it up again. Simple, really.

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Basic deductive reasoning achievable by a 5 year old. Don't let Labor f#$k it up again. The mess Labor made has taken a long time to clean up. Don't let Labor  f#$ k it up again. Simple, really.

it wasn't labor that sent our bombers to blow up their homes  :D :D

Basic deductive reasoning obviously isn't someone's strong suit.

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg

Actually, that does look a bit like Jocko's neighbourhood.

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Basic deductive reasoning achievable by a 5 year old. Don't let Labor f#$k it up again. The mess Labor made has taken a long time to clean up. Don't let Labor  f#$ k it up again. Simple, really.

The mess was created by the Libs.

You have a very short memory.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:36pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg Actually, that does look a bit like Jocko's neighbourhood.

If Jocko says he'd live there ...do you wanna split his airfare?

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:36pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg Actually, that does look a bit like Jocko's neighbourhood. If Jocko says he'd live there ...do you wanna split his airfare?

He'll need a passport too.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:41pm:

He'll need a passport too.

to fly to syria? he can wear a burka

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

Great, Pecker! We're in agreement; children in detention is terrible.  Therefore, under no circumstance can one vote Labor. 1342 to 79; numbers don't lie.

Oh YES they do.

Kat wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 4:49pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:22pm: Great, Pecker! We're in agreement; children in detention is terrible.  Therefore, under no circumstance can one vote Labor. 1342 to 79; numbers don't lie. Oh YES they do.

As do Liberal Party members.

Often.

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg

That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria.

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria.

yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 4:55pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria. yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D

Why post up a picture of Syria when an overwhelming majority of country shoppers in Australian detention aren't from there?? :-?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 8:25am:

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor." Disgusting.

They wouldn't be in detention if Labor hadn't rolled out the welcome mat.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:22am:

When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:(

Shows how uninformed you are. They are free - free to leave and go back home any time they wish to do so. Also, on Nauru they're allowed to come and go from the detention centre at will.

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

Disturbing.

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

so 5% of children are still in detention after all this time? I wonder if they would take so long if it were their kids.

That 5% you refer to are children whose parents are raising red flags with their background checks. Should we release these kids away from their family and separate families now? This government didn't make these people come here with their kids. The former Labor government under Rudd did.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 11:54am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 11:35am: more excellent work by the libs well done... Nothing excellent about this: "People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor." "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

Just six people were in detention when Rudd came to office and the boats had stopped.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:22pm: Great, Pecker! We're in agreement; children in detention is terrible.  Therefore, under n circumstance can one vote Labor. 1342 to 72; numbers don't lie. Numbers don't lie. "People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

That's simply because Labor was buckling under the pressure of their own incompetence. Boats were coming at a rate of two and sometimes three boats a day. Detention centres were overcrowded and Gillard botched a deal with East Timor to house them there. They were desperate, and so they lowered the bar so far it's a wonder Bin Laden didn't have a crack at it too. They lowered the bar so as to enable faster processing of detainees to create more room in detention centres for the influx of people arriving by boat each week by the thousands. This isn't my opinion - this is FACT. It is cold, hard reality.

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:30pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: Basic deductive reasoning achievable by a 5 year old. Don't let Labor f#$k it up again. The mess Labor made has taken a long time to clean up. Don't let Labor  f#$ k it up again. Simple, really. it wasn't labor that sent our bombers to blow up their homes  :D :D

When did we start bombing Sri Lanka and Pakistan? Australia wasn't even in Syria until after Abbott became PM, long after the boats stopped coming!!!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 1:37pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: Basic deductive reasoning achievable by a 5 year old. Don't let Labor f#$k it up again. The mess Labor made has taken a long time to clean up. Don't let Labor  f#$ k it up again. Simple, really. The mess was created by the Libs. You have a very short memory.

You clearly have NO memory. Six people in detention when Rudd became PM. No boats were coming anymore. Rudd abolished the Pacific Solution and then we had 1,000-2,500 people arriving each week for a grand total of more than 55,000 people on over 770 boats, while at least 1,200 people died at sea. This mess was created by the Libs? No, petal. Not even close. This mess is entirely Rudd's doing. Gillard played a part and in the end just made it worse. This is solely a Labor mess, and a colossal one.

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 5:03pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 4:55pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria. yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D

How many Syrian refugees came here by boat because of us bombing their country? NONE. Not a single person. Australian forces didn't even enter Syria until well into Abbott's term as PM - long after Morrison stopped the boats. You've got no idea what you're talking about, so STFU. :)

double plus good wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:03pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 4:55pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria. yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D Why post up a picture of Syria when an overwhelming majority of country shoppers in Australian detention aren't from there?? :-?

are you saying we let in asylum seekers from Syria?

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:43am:

double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:05pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:03pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 4:55pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria. yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D Why post up a picture of Syria when an overwhelming majority of country shoppers in Australian detention aren't from there?? :-? are you saying we let in asylum seekers from Syria?

Yes, we're taking in 12,000 Syrians who have been waiting in refugee camps (i.e. not those traipsing across Europe).

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:17am:

This mess was created by the Libs?

Yes.  That's 100% correct.

The mess was created by the Libs.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 7:17am: This mess was created by the Libs? Yes.  That's 100% correct. The mess was created by the Libs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 7:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:03pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 4:55pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria. yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D How many Syrian refugees came here by boat because of us bombing their country? NONE. Not a single person. Australian forces didn't even enter Syria until well into Abbott's term as PM - long after Morrison stopped the boats. You've got no idea what you're talking about, so be quiet. :)

don't start pretending you care where the asylum seekers come from. The rightards on here don't care where. or why, as long as they are stopped.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 8:43am: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:05pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 5:03pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 4:55pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:29pm: double plus good wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 1:26pm: They could have went home with payment anytime they wanted to. yeah, I suppose they could. Would you if this was your home? http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140515175210-34-week-in-photos-0515-restricted-horizontal-gallery.jpg That's not Sri Lanka . That's Syria. yes, cause you're all for Syrian refugees aren't you!  :D :D :D :D Why post up a picture of Syria when an overwhelming majority of country shoppers in Australian detention aren't from there?? :-? are you saying we let in asylum seekers from Syria? Yes, we're taking in 12,000 Syrians who have been waiting in refugee camps (i.e. not those traipsing across Europe).

we're talking about those coming by boat .... do we let them in if they come from Syria?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

cods wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:28am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:22am: When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:( OMG what evidence is there of that???????.. put up a link please.. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex-abuse-claims-number-in-dozens-20140930-10o7pv.html

Can you show what convictions have been recorded for child sexual abuse thanks. This is a very serious accusation and under the circumstances you need to provide proof other than media 'allegations".

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2016 at 10:33am:

cods wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:28am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:22am: When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:( OMG what evidence is there of that???????.. put up a link please.. This ones not even on Naru or Manus but Xmas Island & in Australia Quote: Allegations of 33 cases of sexual abuse involving children in detention centres in Australia have emerged. Immigration department figures obtained by Fairfax Media show that there were 33 cases of alleged sexual assault involving children in Australian detention centres and Christmas Island between January 2013 and March 2014. The figures do not extend to Nauru or Manus. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex-abuse-claims-number-in-dozens-20140930-10o7pv.html And here's the one dealing with Naru & Manus [quote]An independent review into sexual abuse inside Australia's detention centre on Nauru has found evidence of rape, sexual assault of minors and guards trading marijuana for sexual favours from female detainees.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rapes-sexual-assault-drugs-for-favours-in-australias-detention-centre-on-nauru-independent-moss-review-20150320-1m46za.html

You really think I make stuff up Cods?

I now look forward to you shooting the messenger instead of addressing the issue.

Oh & BTW - Here's our former PM's response


Quote:

Australian prime minister tells radio interviewer ‘occasionally ... things happen’ when asked about Moss review of immigration detainee safety on Nauru

At least he didn't say s.h.i.t this time I suppose.[/quote]Well that shut Gregary up. What about you Smithy, any actual evidence of this accusation? Any charges laid? Any convictions? Fairly serious allegations here by yourself, how about some actual proof.

A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see.

"child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres"

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm

"Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens"

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

What about you Smithy, any actual evidence of this accusation?

Senate committee finds conditions are 'not adequate, appropriate or safe'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-31/senate-inquiry-calls-for-children-to-be-removed-from-nauru/6738644

alternatively, you could click on the link on this story titled  'the forgotten children' and read that. I'd attach the actual report but it's a PDF.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/hundreds-of-children-abused-in-detention-report-20150210-13b10a.html

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 10:33am: cods wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:28am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 18th, 2016 at 9:22am: When will those on Naru & Manus be set free? Probably when they get too old for the Peado guards. "Australia supplying sex slaves to Peado's for the last 5 years" New tourism slogan >:( OMG what evidence is there of that???????.. put up a link please.. This ones not even on Naru or Manus but Xmas Island & in Australia Quote: Allegations of 33 cases of sexual abuse involving children in detention centres in Australia have emerged. Immigration department figures obtained by Fairfax Media show that there were 33 cases of alleged sexual assault involving children in Australian detention centres and Christmas Island between January 2013 and March 2014. The figures do not extend to Nauru or Manus. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex-abuse-claims-number-in-dozens-20140930-10o7pv.html And here's the one dealing with Naru & Manus [quote]An independent review into sexual abuse inside Australia's detention centre on Nauru has found evidence of rape, sexual assault of minors and guards trading marijuana for sexual favours from female detainees. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rapes-sexual-assault-drugs-for-favours-in-australias-detention-centre-on-nauru-independent-moss-review-20150320-1m46za.html You really think I make stuff up Cods? I now look forward to you shooting the messenger instead of addressing the issue. Oh & BTW - Here's our former PM's response [quote]Australian prime minister tells radio interviewer ‘occasionally ... things happen’ when asked about Moss review of immigration detainee safety on Nauru

At least he didn't say s.h.i.t this time I suppose.[/quote]Well that shut Gregary up. What about you Smithy, any actual evidence of this accusation? Any charges laid? Any convictions? Fairly serious allegations here by yourself, how about some actual proof.
[/quote]

Ian that Gregory wanker does it live on the board,must have a boring life ,  35000 post OMFG  ;) ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

what charges and convctions have been recorded for child abuse Greggary? what legal decisions or verdicts have been made in response to the allegations? You hounded,stalked and abused Cods for days on this forum because she had an opinion contrary to a legal verdict, now its your turn. Pedophilia, serious allegations. Show proof.

A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see.

"child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres"

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm

"Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens"

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:23am:

A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

Well, Labor and the Greens put them there.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:23am: A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex... Well, Labor and the Greens put them there.

So that makes it alright?

I see.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:46am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:23am: A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex... Well, Labor and the Greens put them there. So that makes it alright? I see.

Of course it does, much like the 500+ that died on the SEIV X (that being THEIR fault for getting on a boat) yet those that drown under Labor are Labors responsibility.

Get it Greg, Lib GOOD, Labor BAD is about as intelligent as any debate gets with these cretins.

If Sarah  Hanson-Young says it, it must be true.
:D :D :D

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:47am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:46am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:23am: A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex... Well, Labor and the Greens put them there. So that makes it alright? I see. Of course it does, much like the 500+ that died on the SEIV X (that being THEIR fault for getting on a boat) yet those that drown under Labor are Labors responsibility. Get it Greg, Lib GOOD, Labor BAD is about as intelligent as any debate gets with these cretins.

Ain't that the truth!

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:23am: A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex... what charges and convctions have been recorded for child abuse Greggary? what legal decisions or verdicts have been made in response to the allegations? You hounded,stalked and abused Cods for days on this forum because she had an opinion contrary to a legal verdict, now its your turn. Pedophilia, serious allegations. Show proof.

You would never expect greggy to back up with any sort of evidence, not his style. He's more of your argue in pure semantics sort of person.


Like most socialist, no substance, no backbone.

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor."

Semantics.

Meh!

After keeping these children in detention as hostages held to ransom to the senate the conservatives have a hide to make any comment at all.

The conservatives should apologise for their despicable behaviour towards these children.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

"People in onshore immigration detention centres had been locked up for 445 days on average — double the 200-day wait under Labor." Semantics. Meh!

Once in 34000+ posts a non-semantic argument just to provide a single counter-point, yeah you're fkken cured of your genetic cretinism.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dnarever wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

After keeping these children in detention as hostages held to ransom to the senate the conservatives have a hide to make any comment at all. The conservatives should apologise for their despicable behaviour towards these children.

They should, but they never will.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex...

what charges and convctions have been recorded for child abuse Greggary?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:47am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:46am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:23am: A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex... Well, Labor and the Greens put them there. So that makes it alright? I see. Of course it does, much like the 500+ that died on the SEIV X (that being THEIR fault for getting on a boat) yet those that drown under Labor are Labors responsibility. Get it Greg, Lib GOOD, Labor BAD is about as intelligent as any debate gets with these cretins.

what charges and convctions have been recorded for child abuse Smithy? Is it ok to allege pedophilia as you have without any actual proof? Does that mean i can allege you and Greggary are a pedophiles?

" ... standing by and watching sub-standard and harmful care, child abuse and gross violations of human rights is not ethically justifiable.”

Too true.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/01/detention-centre-staff-speak-out-in-defiance-of-new-asylum-secrecy-laws

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

" ... standing by and watching sub-standard and harmful care, child abuse and gross violations of human rights is not ethically justifiable.” Too true. http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/01/detention-centre-staff-speak-out-in-defiance-of-new-asylum-secrecy-laws

what child abuse Greggary/ there is no proof. Why do you keep repeating something which isnt true/? Are you a pedophile Greggary?

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

what child abuse Greggary/ there is no proof. Why do you keep repeating something which isnt true/?

are you claiming that the governments own report is lying?

Good old Phillip Ruddock (back in 2000).

"However, amidst allegations of abuse, sexual and physical of young children, the Minister for Immigration Phillip Ruddock holds firmly to his view that the camps are an appropriate way to deal with those who arrive illegally on our shores."

"DALE WEST: I have no doubt in my mind that child sex abuse has happened. And I think that if we look at the environment that has been established there, where you are putting people of different ethnic backgrounds, you're putting people who might be criminals or those genuinely seeking asylum here in our country, and you put children into that mix as well, then the imbalance of power means that there's going to be abuses occur."

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm

Disgraceful.

There were only 4 boat people in detention when Rudd dismantled the pacific solution,none of them were children.

It was labor and the greens who locked these kids up,Tony inherited the problem the leftards created.

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:37pm:

ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:35pm: what child abuse Greggary/ there is no proof. Why do you keep repeating something which isnt true/? are you claiming that the governments own report is lying?

Im holding Greggary and yourself to the same standard you hold others too. Allegations are allegations, thats why we have a court of law to decide guilt or innocence and not trial by media. Do you agree that the justice system should decide guilt or innocence or not? Or do you agree that its ok to call someone a pedophile as is being done here without guilt or innocence established legally?

"The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system."

What was Tony trying to hide?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

its ok to call someone a pedophile as is being done here

Link?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

"The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086

What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch?

Nope.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:57pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch? Nope.

There were no kids in detention when Rudd became PM, it was labor and the Greens who put these kids in detention.

How many kids did labor and the greens lock up?

Keating gave us mandatory detention for asylum seekers

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

ts ok to call someone a pedophile as is being done here

Quote:

Attorney-General George Brandis has defended the Government's plan to amend a key part of the nation's racial discrimination laws, saying people have "a right to be bigots".

What's your problem Ian, George says it's OK and so does Tim


Quote:

Tim Wilson was appointed Australia's Human Rights Commissioner in February 2014.[1][13] He has argued for changes to Section 18C of the 1975 Racial Discrimination Act, calling the prosecution of broadcaster Andrew Bolt for vilification of indigenous Australians an infringement on Bolt's right to freedom of speech.[14]

We are just expressing our rights to bigotry and freedom of speech

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:57pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch? Nope. There were no kids in detention when Rudd became PM, it was labor and the Greens who put these kids in detention. How many kids did labor and the greens lock up? Keating gave us mandatory detention for asylum seekers

Labor has nothing to be proud of, when it comes to asylum seeker policies.

Was there a point you were trying to make?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:57pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch? Nope. There were no kids in detention when Rudd became PM, it was labor and the Greens who put these kids in detention. How many kids did labor and the greens lock up? Keating gave us mandatory detention for asylum seekers Labor has nothing to be proud of, when it comes to asylum seeker policies. Was there a point you were trying to make?

How many kids did labor and the greens lock up peccahead, why are you avoiding this question?

There were no kids in detention when Rudd was elected, how many kids were in detention when Tony inherited labor-greens problem.

Howard closed Anus Island, labor and the greens reopened it.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:04pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:57pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch? Nope. There were no kids in detention when Rudd became PM, it was labor and the Greens who put these kids in detention. How many kids did labor and the greens lock up? Keating gave us mandatory detention for asylum seekers Labor has nothing to be proud of, when it comes to asylum seeker policies. Was there a point you were trying to make? How many kids did labor and the greens lock up ... ?

I don't know the exact number.

Why don't you tell me.

And then, get to your point.

Deal?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Howard closed Anus Island, labor and the greens reopened it.

Absolutely disgraceful.

Are we getting any closer to the point you're trying to make?

ian wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:37pm: ian wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:35pm: what child abuse Greggary/ there is no proof. Why do you keep repeating something which isnt true/? are you claiming that the governments own report is lying? Im holding Greggary and yourself to the same standard you hold others too. Allegations are allegations, thats why we have a court of law to decide guilt or innocence and not trial by media. Do you agree that the justice system should decide guilt or innocence or not? Or do you agree that its ok to call someone a pedophile as is being done here without guilt or innocence established legally?

Allegations? It was a government report that found the claims of child abuse stand ... and you can't even cite the poli's are lying since it was a liberal govt. report. :D :D :D

According to the standards you are trying to claim, you are saying that Jihadi John is innocent of any extremism claims because he was never found guilty in a court of law? your argument is preposterous. You're attempting to make Greg look bad but only succeeding in making an ass of yourself ..... again.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:46am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:23am: A lot of people supporting child abuse, I see. "child abuse is rife in Australian detention centres" http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s212618.htm "Detention centre child sex abuse claims number in dozens" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/detention-centre-child-sex... Well, Labor and the Greens put them there. So that makes it alright? I see.

It's the Coalition who is releasing the Children, doofus, not the ALP. Labor are the ones who locked them up!

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

There were only 4 boat people in detention when Rudd dismantled the pacific solution,none of them were children. It was labor and the greens who locked these kids up,Tony inherited the problem the leftards created.

Shhh, don't tell Little_Pecker!!!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:09pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:04pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:57pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch? Nope. There were no kids in detention when Rudd became PM, it was labor and the Greens who put these kids in detention. How many kids did labor and the greens lock up? Keating gave us mandatory detention for asylum seekers Labor has nothing to be proud of, when it comes to asylum seeker policies. Was there a point you were trying to make? How many kids did labor and the greens lock up ... ? I don't know the exact number. Why don't you tell me. And then, get to your point. Deal?

It's around 2000, and please stop defending the Labor cretins who put them there because of Rudd's policy incompetence.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:09pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:04pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:57pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20th, 2016 at 1:48pm: "The Abbott Government is erecting an iron curtain of secrecy over what is happening and what has happened in Australia's immigration detention system." What was Tony trying to hide? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-28/barns-newhouse-detention-centre-secrecy-just-got-even-worse/6501086 What were Rudd and Gillard trying to hide, does peccahead claim no abuse of kids happened under their watch? Nope. There were no kids in detention when Rudd became PM, it was labor and the Greens who put these kids in detention. How many kids did labor and the greens lock up? Keating gave us mandatory detention for asylum seekers Labor has nothing to be proud of, when it comes to asylum seeker policies. Was there a point you were trying to make? How many kids did labor and the greens lock up ... ? I don't know the exact number. Why don't you tell me. And then, get to your point. Deal? It's around 2000, and please stop defending the Labor cretins who put them there because of Rudd's policy incompetence.

I would never attempt to defend the ALP's policies on asylum seekers - they should all be ashamed of themselves.

It appears that you have mistaken me for someone else.

Labor has nothing to be proud of, when it comes to asylum seeker policies.