The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says.

Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres.

The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island.

Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm.

Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account.

"We take all of that into consideration," he said.

"As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG.

"I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054


Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once?

Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie.

Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons.

They don't deserve to be dumped back in the Australian funded gulag.

'Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons'.

Can't help it ,it's in their genes. Just have a look at Morriscum!

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 7:49am:

Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account.

yeah and his rapist should hav e been on the streets of Australia..where he would have been harder to find.. >:( >:(


makes sense to some. ::)

macman wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:00am:

'Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons'. Can't help it ,it's in their genes. Just have a look at Morriscum!

I think the left hold the record for PAEDOS>. >:( >:(

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:03am:

macman wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:00am: 'Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons'. Can't help it ,it's in their genes. Just have a look at Morriscum! I think the left hold the record for PAEDOS>. >:( >:(

I wouldn't play that card if I were you, lest you find out about the systematic protection of pedophiles by the Liberals. You'll notice that the person who allegedly raped this child is not being punished for it. The Liberals aren't interested.

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:03am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. yeah and his rapist should hav e been on the streets of Australia..where he would have been harder to find.. >:( >:( makes sense to some. ::)

making excuses for rapists now cods?

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 7:49am:

The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie.

He won't be returned to the SAME place.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:24am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place.

The cell next to his old one

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:24am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place.

The cell next to his old one

Its time wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:46am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:24am: John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place. The cell next to his old one

No, not even the cell next to his old one.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:54am:

Its time wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:46am: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:24am: John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place. The cell next to his old one No, not even the cell next to his old one.

Ahhh next one down , rite o got it

Its time wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:57am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:54am: Its time wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:46am: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:24am: John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place. The cell next to his old one No, not even the cell next to his old one. Ahhh next one down , rite o got it

Stop it.

Dutton will be committing political suicide if he lets that 5yr old kid anywhere back there.

There are a lot of us who vote Liberal and who go to church.

As a group, we're very much against what's going on over there. And this politician knows it.

____ wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 7:55am:

Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons. They don't deserve to be dumped back in the Australian funded gulag.

You only accept Hamas using kids as weapons.

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:03am:

macman wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:00am: 'Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons'. Can't help it ,it's in their genes. Just have a look at Morriscum! I think the left hold the record for PAEDOS>. >:( >:(

Catholic Church.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:24am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place.

making stuff up now Lisa? ...


what am I talking about, this is Lisa I'm talking too!

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:04am:

Dutton will be committing political suicide if he lets that 5yr old kid anywhere back there. There are a lot of us who vote Liberal and who go to church. As a group, we're very much against what's going on over there. And this politician knows it.

that's why you've protested so much about the treatment of kids in detention .... face it Lisa, it doesn't matter how often you go to church, you'll still vote for this rabble, even if they go to Nauru and bugger the kids themselves ...

After all, the kids are tinted, who gives a sh1t as long as you don't have to see it, right?

I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:05am:

____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:55am: Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons. They don't deserve to be dumped back in the Australian funded gulag. You only accept Hamas using kids as weapons.

Hey one trick donkey, use the correct thread :

Hamas ~ Freedom Fighter Or Terrorist Organisation?


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449701604

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:17am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:04am: Dutton will be committing political suicide if he lets that 5yr old kid anywhere back there. There are a lot of us who vote Liberal and who go to church. As a group, we're very much against what's going on over there. And this politician knows it. that's why you've protested so much about the treatment of kids in detention .... face it Lisa, it doesn't matter how often you go to church, you'll still vote for this rabble, even if they go to Nauru and bugger the kids themselves ... After all, the kids are tinted, who gives a sh1t as long as you don't have to see it, right?

I couldn't give a fat rat's clacker what colour skin this 5 yr old raped child has.

He has the right to be safe.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:21am:

I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of.

A psychiatrist now?

I can't believe that people support this, there is nothing to consider on this one.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:51am:

I can't believe that people support this, there is nothing to consider on this one.

Exactly

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:49am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. A psychiatrist now?

He doesn't have to be.

He's right. It is strange.

The stats back up his claim.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:51am:

I can't believe that people support this, there is nothing to consider on this one.

Who is supporting this?

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:03am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. yeah and his rapist should hav e been on the streets of Australia..where he would have been harder to find.. >:( >:( makes sense to some. ::) Quote: "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise."

Looks like the bit at the end as an after thought may indicate that it wasn't another prisoner who had attacked the child ?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:54am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:51am: I can't believe that people support this, there is nothing to consider on this one. Who is supporting this?

Cods

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:49am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. A psychiatrist now?

No, I am studying psychology as part of my degree but come on. Think about it. How would a five year old have any ability to comprehend suicide? It's like asking a five year old what sex is. If they've never experienced or seen or heard about something, how are they going to know anything about it?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:53am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:49am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. A psychiatrist now? He doesn't have to be. He's right. It is strange. The stats back up his claim.

The stats of children in detention? Go check again.  The point is he finds it strange on what factual grounds?  His opinion is children arent able to conceptualise suicide. I ask, what is this opinion based on other than some mumbo jumbo uneducated guess of his own?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:49am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. A psychiatrist now? No, I am studying psychology as part of my degree but come on. Think about it. How would a five year old have any ability to comprehend suicide? It's like asking a five year old what sex is. If they've never experienced or seen or heard about something, how are they going to know anything about it?

Maybe they have seen. Maybe they have heard.  Maybe depression doesnt require comprehension as you see it.  Study more.  Then come back to us.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:54am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:51am: I can't believe that people support this, there is nothing to consider on this one. Who is supporting this?

There are about 5 posts inferring excuses and 6 diverting the topic out of about 28 posts.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:21am:

I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of.

Nobody mentioned suicide.

They said he "began to self-harm".

Many children self-harm, and in most cases it has nothing to do with suicide.

The rightards here are obviously happy for that 5yo to go back into indefinite detention as long as it isn’t in the same camp as his attacker.

Libs acted to make sure the murderer of that refugee on Manus Ia went unfound and unpunished by removing the guards who witnessed the incident to Australia. Obviously terrified conditions in the concentration camps become known. The rightards here seem OK with that.

The Greens have no real policy as regards refugees so they accept the conditions too.

Nice one jovial monk, trying to gain political points on a thread condemning Libs for using kids as political weapons.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:04am:

Its time wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:57am: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:54am: Its time wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:46am: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:24am: John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:49am: The Government will consider medical advice before deciding whether to deport a five-year-old boy allegedly raped on Nauru back to the Pacific island, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says. Doctors have detailed their concerns about the child to the ABC, along with worries about the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres. The boy could be returned to Nauru, where his alleged attacker remains, after a decision is handed down today by the High Court about the legality of detention on the island. Paediatrician Karen Zwi, speaking out despite the threat of jail, said the boy suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault and began to self-harm. Mr Dutton told Lateline the paediatricians' concerns for the boy would be taken into account. "We take all of that into consideration," he said. "As I say, if people need prolonged support they receive it and we've provided significant support for a number of people who have come to Australia because they can't get the requisite medical needs in Nauru or in PNG. "I won't tolerate any thought of people ... in particular children being abused by other refugees, by people otherwise." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/doctors-fears-alleged-nauru-5yo-rape-victim-considered-dutton/7135054 Seriously, What the bugger is there to consider? He's a 5 years old kid. He needs all the best care that can be provided. He doesn't need to be used as a political football. It's disgraceful that a 5 year old was ever put into this position, but to consider sending him back, back to his attacker,  AFTER he's already been raped once? Makes me ashamed to be an Aussie. He won't be returned to the SAME place. The cell next to his old one No, not even the cell next to his old one. Ahhh next one down , rite o got it Stop it. Dutton will be committing political suicide if he lets that 5yr old kid anywhere back there. There are a lot of us who vote Liberal and who go to church. As a group, we're very much against what's going on over there. And this politician knows it.

Hey Greens...in case you missed this.

Have a good one.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 10:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. Nobody mentioned suicide. They said he "began to self-harm". Many children self-harm, and in most cases it has nothing to do with suicide.

oh god I forget what an expert gewggy is on EVERYTHING>>

self harm at 5 yrs old..

yeah right?.. but only on the Libs wtahc

I get it..

all those drowning were hardly SELF HARM though were they?..

a case of.... us lefties never meant that to happen.........wait a minute .. "SORRY" that should make you feel a whole let better its usually does..... ::) ::) ::) ::)

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

self harm at 5 yrs old.. yeah right?..

Yes.


cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

.. but only on the Libs wtahc

I don't remember anyone saying that.


cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

I get it..

I seriously doubt it.


cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

all those drowning were hardly SELF HARM though were they?..

No.  Who suggested that they were?


cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

a case of.... us lefties never meant that to happen.........wait a minute .. "SORRY" that should make you feel a whole let better its usually does..... ::) ::) ::) ::)

Gibberish.

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

self harm at 5 yrs old.. yeah right?..

"Even 5-year-olds are at risk from self-harm, parents are warned"  Link

"self-harm has been witnessed in children as young as three years"  Link

"frightening new figures reveal that some young Australians are intentionally self-harming at just three years of age"  Link

"A mother has spoken of the shock she felt when her three-year-old daughter started self-harming."  Link

____ wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 7:55am:

Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons. They don't deserve to be dumped back in the Australian funded gulag.

the Labor/Greens government should have thought of this when they threw the gates open and enticed these people to get on leaky boats  ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:24am:

____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:55am: Come on Libs ...  stop using kids as weapons. They don't deserve to be dumped back in the Australian funded gulag. the Labor/Greens government should have thought of this when they threw the gates open and enticed these people to get on leaky boats  ::)

It was the Liberals who signed the 1951 UN convention on refugees and put Australia into the class of ethical.

Just because Liberals are no longer ethical, don't blame the Greens for that.

____ wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 10:52am:

Nice one jovial monk, trying to gain political points on a thread condemning Libs for using kids as political weapons.

sounds like the sort of thing you normally do

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 12:35pm:

____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:52am: Nice one jovial monk, trying to gain political points on a thread condemning Libs for using kids as political weapons. sounds like the sort of thing you normally do

Sounds like, is your fact free opinion.

____ wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 12:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 12:35pm: ____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:52am: Nice one jovial monk, trying to gain political points on a thread condemning Libs for using kids as political weapons. sounds like the sort of thing you normally do Sounds like, is your fact free opinion.

were you expecting me to give your opinion perhaps?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 9:59am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:49am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. A psychiatrist now? No, I am studying psychology as part of my degree but come on. Think about it. How would a five year old have any ability to comprehend suicide? It's like asking a five year old what sex is. If they've never experienced or seen or heard about something, how are they going to know anything about it?

And if what you say about your "Degree" is true you would know that abused children a extremely like to self harm as teenagers, commit suicide as young adults or become abusers themselves.

Exactly where does it say 5 year olds knew what self harm was & it was deliberate decision by the child?

Maybe the kid started banging his head against the wall, that's self harm.

Doesn't have to be your stereotypical razor cuts, but then TV & Telegraph are your only sources info.

I used to think you & Cods were just different to me on a political front, but from this thread you're on a totally different moral code as well.

John Smith wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 12:52pm:

____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 12:49pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 12:35pm: ____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:52am: Nice one jovial monk, trying to gain political points on a thread condemning Libs for using kids as political weapons. sounds like the sort of thing you normally do Sounds like, is your fact free opinion. were you expecting me to give your opinion perhaps?

Relative facts concerning the topic would be more desirable thanks.
Subjects like in this thread are more important the trying to boost one's ego via personal attacks on other posters.

Before reacting and pressing the reply button ... you asked.

cods wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 11:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:08am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. Nobody mentioned suicide. They said he "began to self-harm". Many children self-harm, and in most cases it has nothing to do with suicide. oh god I forget what an expert gewggy is on EVERYTHING>> self harm at 5 yrs old.. yeah right?.. but only on the Libs wtahc I get it.. all those drowning were hardly SELF HARM though were they?.. a case of.... us lefties never meant that to happen.........wait a minute .. "SORRY" that should make you feel a whole let better its usually does..... ::) ::) ::) ::)

Gewggy doesn't realise that when a five year old swallows Mummy's pills, they aren't doing it to self-harm. they're doing it because they think they're tic tac's or some other lolly.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 1:42pm:

cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 11:06am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:08am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. Nobody mentioned suicide. They said he "began to self-harm". Many children self-harm, and in most cases it has nothing to do with suicide. oh god I forget what an expert gewggy is on EVERYTHING>> self harm at 5 yrs old.. yeah right?.. but only on the Libs wtahc I get it.. all those drowning were hardly SELF HARM though were they?.. a case of.... us lefties never meant that to happen.........wait a minute .. "SORRY" that should make you feel a whole let better its usually does..... ::) ::) ::) ::) Gewggy doesn't realise that when a five year old swallows Mummy's pills, they aren't doing it to self-harm. they're doing it because they think they're tic tac's or some other lolly.

What on Earth are you talking about?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 1:42pm: cods wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 11:06am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 10:08am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:21am: I find this story odd. How does a five year-old gain any sense of "self harm". Suicide isn't a concept most five year-old's would have any understanding or knowledge of. Nobody mentioned suicide. They said he "began to self-harm". Many children self-harm, and in most cases it has nothing to do with suicide. oh god I forget what an expert gewggy is on EVERYTHING>> self harm at 5 yrs old.. yeah right?.. but only on the Libs wtahc I get it.. all those drowning were hardly SELF HARM though were they?.. a case of.... us lefties never meant that to happen.........wait a minute .. "SORRY" that should make you feel a whole let better its usually does..... ::) ::) ::) ::) Gewggy doesn't realise that when a five year old swallows Mummy's pills, they aren't doing it to self-harm. they're doing it because they think they're tic tac's or some other lolly. What on Earth are you talking about? (scroll back before you answer)

I don't believe either of them have the slightest clue.