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Title: Honour killings
Post by GordyL on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 10:43pm

Many years ago when I first heard about honour killings I read a subject line about rapes and honour killings and drew the conclusion it was the family of the victims taking their own justice into their own hands, which made me feel uncomfortable as I'm a bit of a fan of due process, but I understood how emotion would evoke vigilantism.

When I read it was the families who actually killed the victim to preserve family honour I had to reread the article several times because I thought I must have lost my compression abilities.

Here's an idea, let's import 1000s of people from a part of the world with the most vile culture. What could possibly go wrong.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/a-powerful-documentary-about-pakistans-honor-killings?intcid=mod-latest

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 12:59pm

Pakistan has quite a few honour killings every year, the number is increasing.

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by |dev|null on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:34pm

It's funny how everybody forgets the southern European honour killings which only ceased in the 1980s.

It's funny how everybody ignores the Hindu honour killings in India and amongst the diaspora.

It's funny how everybody just singles out Muslims for special attention simply because they are Muslims. Keep it up, Islamophobes, everytime you post, you damn yourselves in the eyes of reasonable people.

Any killing is dishonourable, no matter the reason. Time to stop picking on Muslims and holding them accountable for something that predates Islam culturally and is not unique to Islamic societies. Time to stop hiding your Islamophobia. ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by GordyL on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:43pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Time to stop being an enabler.

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by Karnal on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 5:57pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Pakistan has quite a few honour killings every year, the number is increasing.

It certainly does. So does India. Apparently, throwing acid in the face of a girl who rejected a young man’s advances has taken off there.

Most of these girls later commit suicide.The men are rarely charged, but so what if they are? Imagine watching your daugher or sister’s face mutilated and blinded, go through multiple surgeries, lose the family house in medical bills, and then find her body hanging? That’s a whole family ruined.

There are more of these kind of "honour" crimes committed in India than the rest of the world put together. It was Not too long ago that women threw themselves onto their husband’s funeral pyres.

You can understand this, perhaps, but what’s hard to grasp is that their children and relatives let them burn.

As a champion of women’s rights, FD should have a lot to say about this.

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by Karnal on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:52am

FD, what do you think about this issue?

As an advocate for women's rights, I mean.

Your take would be really inspirational here, I think.

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by |dev|null on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:48pm

GordyL wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:43pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

Time to stop being an enabler.

Time to stop being an Islamophobe... ;D ;D

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by 0ktema on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

I take you point to a degree.

However it would be interesting to know the exact correlation between the Ottoman Empire's expansion into southern Europe and the honour killings there having lasted until the 1980's. Indeed I suspect this might be quite telling.

Title: Re: Honour killings
Post by Karnal on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:55pm

0ktema wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

There’s a PhD in that, Oktema, but strangely our resident advocate for women’s rights remains silent on the issue.

FD advocated invading Afghanistan and Iraq to support women’s rights. He must have something to say on the status of Indian women, shurely.