he was rescued as a baby but that didnt prevent them ruining his life.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-12/bobby-veen-one-of-australias-longest-serving-prisoner/7115350

ian wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 12:25pm:

he was rescued as a baby but that didnt prevent them ruining his life. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-12/bobby-veen-one-of-australias-longest-serving-prisoner/7115350

Similar to denizen Ian's life story. Bobby should have joined the ADF where he would have got as much sex as he wanted and got paid for killing people.

This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's).
He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!!
Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???)

He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)...
I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by.
Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice.

To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas.
He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go.
Waiting for her to wake up and move on.

Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[

Wasn't he slaying pedos?, not a life entirely wasted  ;D

Sophia wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 1:33pm:

This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's). He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!! Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???) He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)... I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by. Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice. To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas. He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go. Waiting for her to wake up and move on. Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[

Druggies only have one use for other people and that is to use them for a means to an end to get more drugs, that is it, there is nothing else, if you have a druggie in your life cut them loose NOW otherwise they will take you down with them, a druggies family is drugs, a druggies only one true love is drugs, a druggies whole existence is drugs, there is no other purpose to their life except to do more drugs and they view their whole environment as just a means to get drugs. 

I'd love to see an in depth profile on his birth parents, for balance.

Sophia wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 1:33pm:

This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's). He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!! Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???) He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)... I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by. Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice. To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas. He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go. Waiting for her to wake up and move on. Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[

good rant.

he was raped  a couple of times as a kid and the first time he killed someone was when they were about to rape a couple of other kids.

Doesn't excuse what he did, but ultimately that's where his 'rescue' led him

GordyL wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

I'd love to see an in depth profile on his birth parents, for balance.

Gordy Loser never misses an opportunity for a racist hate rant.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 5:52pm:

GordyL wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 2:02pm: I'd love to see an in depth profile on his birth parents, for balance. Gordy Loser never misses an opportunity for a racist hate rant.

You just love thinking the worst in people eh. Sigh....
What if the birth family had health,mental issues, were abusive or any other issue that would raise the attention of the authorities? I was simply wondering what the family was like!!

In furturer, please read what I wrote, not what you'd like to think I wrote.

This lesson is free.

This man was not rescued at all but trafficked and perverted by closet poms.

You ought be trafficked

by a Bdouble semi

Sophia wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 1:33pm:

This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's). He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!! Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???) He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)... I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by. Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice. To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas. He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go. Waiting for her to wake up and move on. Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[

You don't have to mind your own business in your own home.

You have to tell him all this shyte because he is a drug fecked moron.

And your daughter hasn't put him on the straight and narrow whilst he is still freeloading in your home.

All she does is enable him to use her & you.

Tell her to tell him to ferk off .... or they can both hit the long shoe.

You don't need that shyte & your daughter shouldn't expect you to cop it.

Gnads wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 6:47pm:

You ought be trafficked by a Bdouble semi

Gnads darling, your apoplexy will be the end of you one day. Please seek help soonest.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Sophia wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 1:33pm: This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's). He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!! Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???) He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)... I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by. Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice. To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas. He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go. Waiting for her to wake up and move on. Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[ Druggies only have one use for other people and that is to use them for a means to an end to get more drugs, that is it, there is nothing else, if you have a druggie in your life cut them loose NOW otherwise they will take you down with them, a druggies family is drugs, a druggies only one true love is drugs, a druggies whole existence is drugs, there is no other purpose to their life except to do more drugs and they view their whole environment as just a means to get drugs.

in life there is always the right way to do something and the easy way.

the easy way to feel good is to take drugs .

the right way is to construct an awesome life.

the second way takes a lot longer and you have to say "is it worth it"?

the easy way to get big muscles is to take steroids
the right  way is to go to the gym

the easy way to get stimulation is to eat a pizza and some sprite
the right way is to climb a mountain.

the right way always involves self discipline, persistence, working really hard, never quiting and seeing the journey from the frame of

Not "what am i getting out of this "
But "what am i becoming by doing this"

Its why lefties hate my self help philosophy so much.
Because its dammed hard work  ;) ;) ;).

How to stop your kids using drugs?
Be a good leader and embody the principles of the "noble rightard"  ;) ;)

Aquascoot was abandoned in the wild and raised by horses which explains his affinity for horse sh it.

The stolen children policy was an abomination and a time bomb.

What everyone is missing is that adoptees have issues which affect them negatively:

http://adoptionvoicesmagazine.com/my-second-mama/do-adoptees-have-more-problems/#.Vr77QPJ974Y


Quote:

Common Psychological and Emotional Effects of Adoption Some common issues observed in adoptees are: Depression Anxiety Self-esteem issues Reactive attachment disorder (RAD) Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) Identity development General feelings of grief, loss, and rejection Statistics on Adopted Children and Adults Show Adoption Always Affects the Adoptee Many research studies have shown that adoptees and birth mothers suffer more from depression, and that there is a higher rate of suicide among these populations. Because adoption issues often show up during the teen years, unresolved issues can manifest themselves in dramatic and destructive ways that adoptive parents may not be prepared for. There are a handful of disciplinary correctional schools, residential treatment centers, and adoption ‘camps’ that are designed to deal with adopted teenagers whos parents have decided that they don’t know how to handle the behavioral problems of their adopted child. These adoptee camps take in adopted children with all kinds of issues: substance Adopted child syndrome; do adoptees have more problems? Common Psychological and Emotional Effects of Adoption and drug abuse, sexual misconduct, violence and anger towards parents, siblings, pets, or even themselves, the list can go on. There is even a camp referred to as “The Last Chance Ranch,” that specializes in teens from Russia. Sadly, some of these teens are actually re-relinquished to the camp by their adoptive parents. Despite the fact that adoptees make up less than 2% of the US population, they represent 25-35% of teens in these correctional camps and institutions - I find that statistic so incredibly sad and alarming.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Sophia wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 1:33pm: This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's). He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!! Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???) He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)... I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by. Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice. To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas. He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go. Waiting for her to wake up and move on. Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[ Druggies only have one use for other people and that is to use them for a means to an end to get more drugs, that is it, there is nothing else, if you have a druggie in your life cut them loose NOW otherwise they will take you down with them, a druggies family is drugs, a druggies only one true love is drugs, a druggies whole existence is drugs, there is no other purpose to their life except to do more drugs and they view their whole environment as just a means to get drugs.

Not that there's amything wrong with it.

Id rather prescribe it to them. Watch the crime rate drop. All the abos stoned out of their brains on free heroin all the time. Fantastic.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Aquascoot was abandoned in the wild and raised by horses which explains his affinity for horse sh it. The stolen children policy was an abomination and a time bomb. What everyone is missing is that adoptees have issues which affect them negatively: http://adoptionvoicesmagazine.com/my-second-mama/do-adoptees-have-more-problems/#.Vr77QPJ974Y Quote: Common Psychological and Emotional Effects of Adoption Some common issues observed in adoptees are: Depression Anxiety Self-esteem issues Reactive attachment disorder (RAD) Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) Identity development General feelings of grief, loss, and rejection Statistics on Adopted Children and Adults Show Adoption Always Affects the Adoptee Many research studies have shown that adoptees and birth mothers suffer more from depression, and that there is a higher rate of suicide among these populations. Because adoption issues often show up during the teen years, unresolved issues can manifest themselves in dramatic and destructive ways that adoptive parents may not be prepared for. There are a handful of disciplinary correctional schools, residential treatment centers, and adoption ‘camps’ that are designed to deal with adopted teenagers whos parents have decided that they don’t know how to handle the behavioral problems of their adopted child. These adoptee camps take in adopted children with all kinds of issues: substance Adopted child syndrome; do adoptees have more problems? Common Psychological and Emotional Effects of Adoption and drug abuse, sexual misconduct, violence and anger towards parents, siblings, pets, or even themselves, the list can go on. There is even a camp referred to as “The Last Chance Ranch,” that specializes in teens from Russia. Sadly, some of these teens are actually re-relinquished to the camp by their adoptive parents. Despite the fact that adoptees make up less than 2% of the US population, they represent 25-35% of teens in these correctional camps and institutions - I find that statistic so incredibly sad and alarming.

it is cruel to have children in an environment where there is no alpha to lead them.
if aboriginal parents are drunk all the time , this is the case.
again drinking is the easy option (and people who havent had rightard values infused will always choose the easy option)

life coaching, boot camps and work for the dole are essential for aboriginal communities.

Malcolm Fraser said "life wasnt meant to be easy" and left exploded with indignation.

The left think life should be as easy as possible....This will only lead to suffering.

The alpha takes on the responsibility and leads the herd from his sense of contribution  ;) ;)

Karnal wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 1:54pm: Sophia wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 1:33pm: This situation is not new, and we are in the midst of putting up with someone that was adopted as a little boy so he could have a better life that where he came from (he is of Indian origin), my daughter decided to bond with him a couple of years ago (she was 30 he is in his mid 40's). He has tattoos all over, no car, debts, has been on drugs for the last 10 years or so, said he aged his adoptive parents (they adopted 3 kids all up), and I don't for the life of me, understand why these adopted kids with a good chance and education at life, don't wake up to themselves with such a good life they could have had!! Daughter thinks she can help him, but he has lived with us for the last 2 years, much to my annoyance, does nothing around the house, leaves drity dishes in the sink for me to wash, and daughter is a taxi driver for him everywhere. Smokes and leaves ciggi buts everywhere, leaves lights on, leaves doors unlocked. I have to remind him to turn off lights, lock doors, (really, why should I be telling a 40 something year old this???) He got caught with ice and a glass pipe on 1st January, the police called me to alert me about it, (as if I know anything about ice or whatever!)... I think the cop was annoyed with me for having him in our care at our residence, like as if we are being done wrong by. Did I really need this, trying to just mind my own business, I am not his mother I told the cop, he has his adoptive parents not so far away from where we were having that conversation. I was warned to take care and be aware by that cop, about behavioural changes when someone goes on ice. To be honest, I am fed up with all these problems and the dramas. He is manipulative and seems to have sucked in the daughter with great sympathy. She has put him on the straight and narrow path with a job he loves and the people like him. Time to let go. Waiting for her to wake up and move on. Sorry, had to have a rant  :-[ Druggies only have one use for other people and that is to use them for a means to an end to get more drugs, that is it, there is nothing else, if you have a druggie in your life cut them loose NOW otherwise they will take you down with them, a druggies family is drugs, a druggies only one true love is drugs, a druggies whole existence is drugs, there is no other purpose to their life except to do more drugs and they view their whole environment as just a means to get drugs.  Not that there's amything wrong with it.

No, but theres something wrong with you.  :D

ian wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 7:56pm:

Id rather prescribe it to them. Watch the crime rate drop. All the abos stoned out of their brains on free heroin all the time. Fantastic.

Yes this is the logical answer but because we live in a society with so many people that don't do logic it will never happen.  :(

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

it is cruel to have children in an environment where there is no alpha to lead them.

not as cruel as taking them from their family and raping them.  :D :D :D

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 6:47pm: You ought be trafficked by a Bdouble semi Gnads darling, your apoplexy will be the end of you one day. Please seek help soonest.

Your over use of the word apoplexy will be the end of you sooner rather than later .... please allow it to happen.

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:20pm: it is cruel to have children in an environment where there is no alpha to lead them. not as cruel as taking them from their family and raping them.  :D :D :D

i would guess that child sexual abuse in communities which are not dry is much higher then in children removed and fostered by childrens services

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:34pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:20pm: it is cruel to have children in an environment where there is no alpha to lead them. not as cruel as taking them from their family and raping them.  :D :D :D i would guess that child sexual abuse in communities which are not dry is much higher then in children removed and fostered by childrens services

unless they are removed into the church system ..... which very many were

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:47pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:34pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:20pm: it is cruel to have children in an environment where there is no alpha to lead them. not as cruel as taking them from their family and raping them.  :D :D :D i would guess that child sexual abuse in communities which are not dry is much higher then in children removed and fostered by childrens services unless they are removed into the church system ..... which very many were

you got stats that prove the church system is worse then living in a dysfunctional alcoholic household.
I'd be genuinely interested

aquascoot wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 8:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:48pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:47pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:34pm: aquascoot wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 8:20pm: it is cruel to have children in an environment where there is no alpha to lead them. not as cruel as taking them from their family and raping them.  :D :D :D i would guess that child sexual abuse in communities which are not dry is much higher then in children removed and fostered by childrens services unless they are removed into the church system ..... which very many were you got stats that prove the church system is worse then living in a dysfunctional alcoholic household. I'd be genuinely interested

nope, sorry ... the church is still covering it up. Stats aren't available.

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

nope, sorry ... the church is still covering it up. Stats aren't available.

did find this for you .... if this is what the church admits, you can bet the numbers are much higher


3,400 sexual abuse cases

That’s how many credible cases of abuse had been referred to the Vatican from 2004 to 2014, according to the Vatican’s U.N. ambassador in Geneva, Archbishop Silvano Tomasi. There were an estimated 410,000 Catholic priests around the world in 2014, the Catholic News Service reported.
2,572 priests sentenced to a lifetime of penance

Another 848 over the last decade had been defrocked, according to Tomasi. The others were sentenced to penance and other mild religious sentences.
Pope Benedict XVI defrocked 384 priests in 2 years

The former Pope, who resigned in 2013, essentially fired 384 of those priests in the last two years of his pontificate.

http://www.vocativ.com/news/235015/by-the-numbers-the-catholic-churchs-sex-abuse-scandals/

by the way, yes I think being raped as a kid is worse than growing up with dysfunctional drunks.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

Aquascoot was abandoned in the wild and raised by horses which explains his affinity for horse sh it. The stolen children policy was an abomination and a time bomb. What everyone is missing is that adoptees have issues which affect them negatively: http://adoptionvoicesmagazine.com/my-second-mama/do-adoptees-have-more-problems/#.Vr77QPJ974Y Quote: Common Psychological and Emotional Effects of Adoption Some common issues observed in adoptees are: Depression Anxiety Self-esteem issues Reactive attachment disorder (RAD) Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) Identity development General feelings of grief, loss, and rejection Statistics on Adopted Children and Adults Show Adoption Always Affects the Adoptee Many research studies have shown that adoptees and birth mothers suffer more from depression, and that there is a higher rate of suicide among these populations. Because adoption issues often show up during the teen years, unresolved issues can manifest themselves in dramatic and destructive ways that adoptive parents may not be prepared for. There are a handful of disciplinary correctional schools, residential treatment centers, and adoption ‘camps’ that are designed to deal with adopted teenagers whos parents have decided that they don’t know how to handle the behavioral problems of their adopted child. These adoptee camps take in adopted children with all kinds of issues: substance Adopted child syndrome; do adoptees have more problems? Common Psychological and Emotional Effects of Adoption and drug abuse, sexual misconduct, violence and anger towards parents, siblings, pets, or even themselves, the list can go on. There is even a camp referred to as “The Last Chance Ranch,” that specializes in teens from Russia. Sadly, some of these teens are actually re-relinquished to the camp by their adoptive parents. Despite the fact that adoptees make up less than 2% of the US population, they represent 25-35% of teens in these correctional camps and institutions - I find that statistic so incredibly sad and alarming.

The guy I was referring to, he being adopted, I wonder how he could have turned to drugs, when he was very good at school, excelled in sport etc. And he has a younger adopted brother and sister (not blood related), they are both doing so well, and no drug problems. All from the same caring couple that adopted them.

The potential he has to do well in any field, seems diminished with the use of drugs.

One thing I have noticed, in many years of observation, that a certain type of 'me me me' and narcissism happens.

One of the daughters best friends since college, had gone onto drugs, and became very hard headed to deal with, very much the opinionated one, and that friendship has ended.

I can recall quite clearly, how my daughter had complained from very early on as a teen, she said "Everyone of my generation is drug fked".

She feels she can't find anyone not effected by drugs. Another ex BF seemed okay, was a security guard, wanted to be a policeman, but then he would snap into a different persona.
Found out he did drugs real big time when his best friend's sister was killed on the road (he had a crush on her)...so he and his friend went rampage on drugs, didn't care if they died type thing.
Now it has effected his personality, made it split.
Ended up going to the Magistrates court to get a restraining order I think it was.
It was settled before going into the court, so it came as a warning to him.
I thought he would have been okay, but that personality was the one that fooled me, I never saw the other type of personality he had.
I was asked, what my first impression of him was, and funny enough, I said "I feel as if he is holding back or hiding something".

To be honest, I am so grateful I missed out on all the social drug scene, and the worst I ever did was take panadol now and then, or prescribed anti-biotics.

I have often said, as we age, our best friend is a good, sound mind.

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

he was raped  a couple of times as a kid and the first time he killed someone was when they were about to rape a couple of other kids. Doesn't excuse what he did, but ultimately that's where his 'rescue' led him

I know I am going to sound like a sap, but, I do feel sorry for him.
I don't think he deserved jail.

Sometimes, a person like that, whom has suffered much, doesn't want others to suffer as he has, and he will do what he can to stop it, wishing someone could have helped or saved himself.

Honestly, so what if he killed a would-be-rapist-paedophile, he did society a big favour.

Psalms 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.



Should we tolerate wolves to live among us, when we need not do so ?

Who is at fault ?

The wolf [for being a wolf],     ....or ourselves [for purposely, recklessly, willingly,       ...putting the innocent at the mercy, of those who are merciless ? ] ?





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"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."
Karl Popper


"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Thomas Mann

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 1:28am:

Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. Should we tolerate wolves to live among us, when we need not do so ? Who is at fault ? The wolf [for being a wolf],     ....or ourselves [for purposely, recklessly, willingly,       ...putting the innocent at the mercy, of those who are merciless ? ] ? . "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." Karl Popper "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." Thomas Mann

All the good you create will be attacked

Unless
You
DEFEND IT.

one of scoots universal principles  ;) ;)

Sophia wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 12:59am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 5:08pm: he was raped  a couple of times as a kid and the first time he killed someone was when they were about to rape a couple of other kids. Doesn't excuse what he did, but ultimately that's where his 'rescue' led him I know I am going to sound like a sap, but, I do feel sorry for him. I don't think he deserved jail. Sometimes, a person like that, whom has suffered much, doesn't want others to suffer as he has, and he will do what he can to stop it, wishing someone could have helped or saved himself. Honestly, so what if he killed a would-be-rapist-paedophile, he did society a big favour.

He was very well spoken on the interview and he had nothing but praise for his adoptive family. Just a tragic set of circumstances.

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

he was raped  a couple of times as a kid and the first time he killed someone was when they were about to rape a couple of other kids. Doesn't excuse what he did, but ultimately that's where his 'rescue' led him

Sophia wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 12:59am:

I know I am going to sound like a sap, but, I do feel sorry for him. I don't think he deserved jail. Sometimes, a person like that, whom has suffered much, doesn't want others to suffer as he has, and he will do what he can to stop it, wishing someone could have helped or saved himself. Honestly, so what if he killed a would-be-rapist-paedophile, he did society a big favour.

NO!     ....he didn't.


The life and example of Bobby Veen.

Being exonerated, for murdering alleged child molesters/abusers, would have 'sent the wrong message' to the broader community.

i.e. '.....its OK to be judge, jury, and executioner, sometimes.'

.....and it is NOT OK!



The fault, our fault,         ...is in our having pity for a person like Bobby Veen, a convicted murderer.

But the much greater fault is with OUR, OUR, OUR dysfunctional justice system,       ....which operates with our authority, and on our behalf.

WE 'OWN', OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.

WE [ultimately], ARE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE, FOR HOW IT OPERATES, ON OUR AUTHORITY, AND ON OUR BEHALF.


We are witnesses, to a dysfunctional justice system, which allows and tolerates child molesters/abusers, AND OTHER LAWLESSNESS,     ....so as to appease the 'do gooders',       ....who want to acquit everyone, of wrongdoing!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/2#2



As individual citizens, we have no direct authority to regulate how our justice system operates.

Instead, we pay politicians and bureaucrats [very, very well!] to administer and to manage, how our justice system operates,       ....on our behalf.



But, we have a circumstance today, we have a political system today,       .....where those who DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY to seek much better outcomes [e.g. to secure justice for the victims, of violent criminals] refuse to be accountable for the appalling consequences of their mis-administration.

Those who we have appointed to administer and to manage our justice system, refuse to properly do so, they refuse to account justice, against those who live among us, and commit criminal acts [and sometimes very violent criminal acts] .

I would suggest, because of their own [political] cowardice, or [in some cases] because their own complicity in gross lawlessness.

only when you get some hairy old bloke stick his dick up your arse when you are 14yrs old, can you judge him

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2016 at 5:08pm: he was raped  a couple of times as a kid and the first time he killed someone was when they were about to rape a couple of other kids. Doesn't excuse what he did, but ultimately that's where his 'rescue' led him Sophia wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 12:59am: I know I am going to sound like a sap, but, I do feel sorry for him. I don't think he deserved jail. Sometimes, a person like that, whom has suffered much, doesn't want others to suffer as he has, and he will do what he can to stop it, wishing someone could have helped or saved himself. Honestly, so what if he killed a would-be-rapist-paedophile, he did society a big favour. NO!     ....he didn't. The life and example of Bobby Veen. Being exonerated, for murdering alleged child molesters/abusers, would have 'sent the wrong message' to the broader community. i.e. '.....its OK to be judge, jury, and executioner, sometimes.' .....and it is NOT OK! The fault, our fault,         ...is in our having pity for a person like Bobby Veen, a convicted murderer. But the much greater fault is with OUR, OUR, OUR dysfunctional justice system,       ....which operates with our authority, and on our behalf. WE 'OWN', OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. WE [ultimately], ARE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE, FOR HOW IT OPERATES, ON OUR AUTHORITY, AND ON OUR BEHALF. We are witnesses, to a dysfunctional justice system, which allows and tolerates child molesters/abusers, AND OTHER LAWLESSNESS,     ....so as to appease the 'do gooders',       ....who want to acquit everyone, of wrongdoing! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/2#2 As individual citizens, we have no direct authority to regulate how our justice system operates. Instead, we pay politicians and bureaucrats [very, very well!] to administer and to manage, how our justice system operates,       ....on our behalf. But, we have a circumstance today, we have a political system today,       .....where those who DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY to seek much better outcomes [e.g. to secure justice for the victims, of violent criminals] refuse to be accountable for the appalling consequences of their mis-administration. Those who we have appointed to administer and to manage our justice system, refuse to properly do so, they refuse to account justice, against those who live among us commit criminal acts [and sometimes very violent criminal acts] . I would suggest, because of their own [political] cowardice, or [in some cases] because their own complicity in gross lawlessness.

Yadda, it's not that he premeditated to kill, it was all on raw emotions, he wasn't being jury, judge and executioner, this reminds me much of when a woman, for instance, is in an abusive relationship, and then can't handle anymore and something snaps inside and she kills her husband, in some cases over the years, I have noted that some are not jailed and are excused. So why not this Bobby Veen also? Because he is not female? Because he is black? I can see the similarity in cases of the abused wife/female, but somehow, it's given Bobby a very severe jail term, and in fact, I am quite disgusted by the mere fact, that in 2011, he was not allowed to attend his father's funeral.

Where is the fair justice in all that?

Sophia wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:37am:

I am quite disgusted by the mere fact, that in 2011, he was not allowed to attend his father's funeral.

he didn't do himself any favours ....

didn't he try to escape jail via helicopter one year?

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:33am:

only when you get some hairy old bloke stick his dick up your arse when you are 14yrs old, can you judge him

Yeah, well...

My memory of my own childhood, is that when i started school, i was living in a children's home.

Later i lived with foster parents [who were kind to me].



I myself, am about Bobby Veen's vintage.....

I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands.

I didn't choose to murder anyone.

I have never been charged with any criminal offence.

I have never spent a day in goal.



I was just lucky i guess.

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:40am:

Sophia wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:37am: I am quite disgusted by the mere fact, that in 2011, he was not allowed to attend his father's funeral. he didn't do himself any favours .... didn't he try to escape jail via helicopter one year?

Very creative!
What is the reason you reckon, spent enough time on the inside, felt he was given a sentence too harsh, felt he would never get out unless he tries to get out himself? Heck I would feel that way too!

But I see what you mean about not allowing him to attend his father's funeral, in case he tries to escape, but on foot, with 2 guards with him, would have sufficed.

Just saying.

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:42am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:33am: only when you get some hairy old bloke stick his dick up your arse when you are 14yrs old, can you judge him Yeah, well... My memory of my own childhood, is that when i started school, i was living in a children's home. Later i lived with foster parents [who were kind to me]. I myself, am about Bobby Veen's vintage..... I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands. I didn't choose to murder anyone. I have never been charged with any criminal offence. I have never spent a day in goal. I was just lucky i guess.

So you weren't raped?

Like I said earlier, Veen had nothing but praise for his adoptive family. It wasn't the fact that he was adopted that made him snap, it was the rape (twice).

When he saw some guys about to do the same with other kids, he snapped. There was no planning, no premeditation.  I personally would have given him a medal ... the authorities decided to jail him ... probably had more to do with his skin colour.

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:42am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:33am: only when you get some hairy old bloke stick his dick up your arse when you are 14yrs old, can you judge him Yeah, well... My memory of my own childhood, is that when i started school, i was living in a children's home. Later i lived with foster parents [who were kind to me]. I myself, am about Bobby Veen's vintage..... I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands. I didn't choose to murder anyone. I have never been charged with any criminal offence. I have never spent a day in goal. I was just lucky i guess.

You have a stronger sense of worth and character Yadda, something that Bobby Veen didn't probably have much of.
I sense you get a lot of comfort with written scriptures which help to ease any ill feelings, and perhaps, even forgiving, but not forgetting, and the reason to forgive, not to make others that did you wrong feel better about it, but to set yourself free from jailing your mind with it affecting your life letting it go round and round inside your head.

It proves that we all have different ways of coping with the trials of life.

I will admit that I had a father that seemed to have a split personality, when he was sober, he was intelligent, funny, and so full of life's experiences, but when he drank, then the darkness fell upon our household. He died back in 1991, my mother is nearly 88 now but keeps recounting all the negatives and abuse she put up with (I lost count how many times I heard it all!)...I have to skilfully change the subject, and in fact, I have learnt how to humour her and make her laugh.
See, that is what I do, making someone feel lighter in their soul and making them laugh is something you can't put a price on.

She said there were times her mind went black and she could have killed him.
I would have understood that, (so too would have my brother)...but the courts and justice system may not have.
I am glad she didn't, but back then, I thought it would have been the outcome which, well, would have been the outcome should it have happened.

So excuse me if I do sound a bit soft and all that, but I do have a lot of sympathy for Bobby Veen, and instead of a harsh long sentence in jail, how about a different institution? Is there a middle of the road approach to all this, for those that suffered a horrible abused life which led to the outcome?

John Smith wrote on Feb 14^th, 2016 at 10:51am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:42am: John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:33am: only when you get some hairy old bloke stick his dick up your arse when you are 14yrs old, can you judge him Yeah, well... My memory of my own childhood, is that when i started school, i was living in a children's home. Later i lived with foster parents [who were kind to me]. I myself, am about Bobby Veen's vintage..... I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands. I didn't choose to murder anyone. I have never been charged with any criminal offence. I have never spent a day in goal. I was just lucky i guess. So you weren't raped?

John Smith,

I can tell you, that i had, and have, a number of grievances, from my early childhood,      ....against people from my own family, and against people who were strangers to me.

But as i said;

I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands.

I didn't choose to murder anyone.

I have never been charged with any criminal offence.

And i have never spent a day in goal.




Bobby Veen spent 40+ years in goal.

Why so ?

Principally because Bobby Veen clearly, made some very poor choices.





Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes.

John Smith said....

Quote:

I personally would have given him a medal

Clearly Lady Lols thinks that murder is OK, sometimes.

Lady Lols said....

Quote:

I don't think he deserved jail....... Honestly, so what if he killed a would-be-rapist-paedophile, he did society a big favour.

QUESTION;
Was Bobby Veen justified in the murders he committed ?

But more importantly, was the 'justification' for the murders [which Bobby Veen committed], that Bobby Veen gave, ever actually substantiated ?

Does anybody know ?

Dictionary;
substantiate = = provide evidence to support or prove the truth of.



The account that Bobby Veen gave, which partially, or wholly, 'justified' his future murders....

Quote:

The turning point But when he was 11 years old, Bobby was the victim of a crime that would upend his life. One afternoon, he was walking home from a football game, when he says he was abducted by three men in a car and molested. He never told anyone what happened.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-12/bobby-veen-one-of-australias-longest-serving-prisoner/7115350


Again, was the 'justification' for the murders [which Bobby Veen committed], that Bobby Veen gave, ever actually substantiated ?




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Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

Yadda wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:10am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:51am: Yadda wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:42am: John Smith wrote on Feb 14th, 2016 at 10:33am: only when you get some hairy old bloke stick his dick up your arse when you are 14yrs old, can you judge him Yeah, well... My memory of my own childhood, is that when i started school, i was living in a children's home. Later i lived with foster parents [who were kind to me]. I myself, am about Bobby Veen's vintage..... I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands. I didn't choose to murder anyone. I have never been charged with any criminal offence. I have never spent a day in goal. I was just lucky i guess. So you weren't raped? John Smith, I can tell you, that i had, and have, a number of grievances, from my early childhood,      ....against people from my own family, and against people who were strangers to me. But as i said; I didn't choose to take the law into my own hands. I didn't choose to murder anyone. I have never been charged with any criminal offence. And i have never spent a day in goal. Bobby Veen spent 40+ years in goal. Why so ? Principally because Bobby Veen clearly, made some very poor choices. Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. John Smith said.... Quote: I personally would have given him a medal Clearly Lady Lols thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. Lady Lols said.... [quote] I don't think he deserved jail....... Honestly, so what if he killed a would-be-rapist-paedophile, he did society a big favour.

QUESTION;
Was Bobby Veen justified in the murders he committed ?

But more importantly, was the 'justification' for the murders [which Bobby Veen committed], that Bobby Veen gave, ever actually substantiated ?

Does anybody know ?

Dictionary;
substantiate = = provide evidence to support or prove the truth of.



The account that Bobby Veen gave, which partially, or wholly, 'justified' his future murders....

Quote:

The turning point But when he was 11 years old, Bobby was the victim of a crime that would upend his life. One afternoon, he was walking home from a football game, when he says he was abducted by three men in a car and molested. He never told anyone what happened.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-12/bobby-veen-one-of-australias-longest-serving-prisoner/7115350


Again, was the 'justification' for the murders [which Bobby Veen committed], that Bobby Veen gave, ever actually substantiated ?




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Psalms 25:8
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9  The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
10  All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

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Yadda, it seems that the death penalty is to "murder" the wrong doers, what do you think about that situation, if say, myself or others search for the understanding of how, and why, and that it is done out of desperation to rid of an evil when this person feels none is protecting them?

The death penalty is to rid of evil doers, and isn't that doing society a favour?

What is your opinion of that situation?

If I remember correctly, isn't there some contradiction in the bible where God sets forth others to kill?

I recall something like that at bible studies once upon a time, and much to the speakers amazement.

In any case, I will ask a friend that is very bible knowledgeable to tell me where that section is.

So, how do you feel about God allowing such monstrosities to happen to innocent children, isn't that something like a 'bystander' or an 'accessory' to the fact?

Some tough testing there.
But as the bible says, God is that all forgiving and loving person, if a person has done wrong, but asks for redemption.

Yadda, you are obnoxious and you kill peoples brain cells with your toxic blather.

Yadda wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:10am:

Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes.

yes, especially if they rape innocent kids.

Gnads wrote on Feb 13^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

You don't have to mind your own business in your own home. You have to tell him all this shyte because he is a drug fecked nice person. And your daughter hasn't put him on the straight and narrow whilst he is still freeloading in your home. All she does is enable him to use her & you. Tell her to tell him to ferk off .... or they can both hit the long shoe. You don't need that shyte & your daughter shouldn't expect you to cop it.

Was meant to get back to you about what you wrote Gnads.
I had to think about all those years, when my kids were at the terrible teen years, and to whinge to anyone about it, the answer was always "kick them out"....now really, it's something I can't do, I couldn't do it then, and am unable to do it to my daughter now, I had always said the door is always open to them, but alas, we would like him to leave, and that is something that needs addressing.

He seems to be in a hopeless stage, and don't see him getting out of that rut anytime soon, hence, my worry is, if I kick someone out, and the ripple effect of something bad happening to them out in the jungle, I would feel bad about it, perhaps even guilty, because after all, I am the one with empathy, even if he is narcissistic, I am the one that's supposed to be understanding and accommodating  ::)

There I go again with yet another rant  ;D

I have hopes, that he will move on, and that she will too, but in the meantime, they are in this safe haven, protected, that is the only comfort I get from all that.

Yep, too soft is me  :-/ but, it does help to get stuff like this off my chest in here, as they say, a problem is halved when shared  :)

This whole string could actually have been about Yadda.

John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:10am: Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. yes, especially if they rape innocent kids.

Well if that is true, i have to assume that you would support making the lynching of alleged child molesters lawful too ?

I mean, if you believe that murder is OK [you know,   .....whenever it is 'justified'], then shouldn't we all just have a free for all, and be allowed [in law] to murder whomever we like ?

Just like Bobby Veen did ?



John Smith,

What you support is LAWLESSNESS.

Sophia wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 11:38am:

Yadda, it seems that the death penalty is to "murder" the wrong doers, what do you think about that situation, if say, myself or others search for the understanding of how, and why, and that it is done out of desperation to rid of an evil when this person feels none is protecting them? The death penalty is to rid of evil doers, and isn't that doing society a favour? What is your opinion of that situation?

I believe that convicted child molesters ought to be executed, by the state, on behalf of the community.





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Sophia wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 11:38am:

If I remember correctly, isn't there some contradiction in the bible where God sets forth others to kill? I recall something like that at bible studies once upon a time, and much to the speakers amazement. In any case, I will ask a friend that is very bible knowledgeable to tell me where that section is. So, how do you feel about God allowing such monstrosities to happen to innocent children, isn't that something like a 'bystander' or an 'accessory' to the fact? Some tough testing there. But as the bible says, God is that all forgiving and loving person, if a person has done wrong, but asks for redemption.

Lady Lols,

IMO, people like yourself only see inconsistency,        .....in the idea, of a 'loving' God, who would sanction the killing of wrongdoers.

But the only inconsistency, imo,       ....is in the morality [and in the hearts] of man.




Matthew 15:1
Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
2  Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
3  But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4  For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

n.b.
Jesus, rebuked the religious leaders of his time, for not following God's laws.



What laws ???

Exodus 20:12
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13  Thou shalt not kill.

Exodus 21:17
And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

Is it harsh, to put to death, rebellious children ?

Yes, it is harsh to us.

But that is not man's law, it is God's law.



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Never old.

IMAGE....
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gvXwPghPsU4/TiV9dY_RIKI/AAAAAAAAC-k/yA0crbVWgvA/s320/10commandments.jpg


We [in our 'modern', secular state] do not live by those laws.

But, imo, we should.



But, if you are a typical atheist [living in this 'modern', 'civilised' age], you will say God's law laws are wrong/inconsistent/unjust.


WHEREAS;
God's say's that his laws are right, and just,      ....and his word, declares that following his laws, will bring about a stable, peaceful, prosperous society,      .....for the people who implement and follow those laws.



Words that are found, repeated, again, and again, in Deuteronomy [in the bible]....

"So thou shalt put the evil away from among you."

"so shalt thou put the evil away from among you."

"so shalt thou put evil away from among you;"

"so shalt thou put evil away from among you."

"so thou shalt put away evil from among you."

"and thou shalt put evil away from among you."





Deuteronomy 4:5
Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
6  Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
7  For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
8  And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?




"...which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?"

But not Lady Lols.

And not John Smith.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

Yadda, you are obnoxious and you kill peoples brain cells with your toxic blather.

Yadda holds up mirror, to toxic Laugh till you cry persona.


Laugh till you cry = = the antithesis to everything decent in humanity.


Laugh till you cry = = illogical, unreasonable, a hatred of what is true.




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God bless Israel, and the Jewish people.


Numbers 22:12
And God said unto Balaam..... thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed.

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 1:33am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 1:14pm: Yadda, you are obnoxious and you kill peoples brain cells with your toxic blather. Yadda holds up mirror, to toxic Laugh till you cry persona. Laugh till you cry = = the antithesis to everything decent in humanity. Laugh till you cry = = illogical, unreasonable, a hatred of what is true. . God bless Israel, and the Jewish people. Numbers 22:12 And God said unto Balaam..... thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed.

pretty true yadda, I'm not a christian but the blatherings of jesus are very very helpful and the blatherings of LTYC are toxic

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 12:34am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm: Yadda wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:10am: Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. yes, especially if they rape innocent kids. Well if that is true, i have to assume that you would support making the lynching of alleged child molesters lawful too ? I mean, if you believe that murder is OK [you know,   .....whenever it is 'justified'], then shouldn't we all just have a free for all, and be allowed [in law] to murder whomever we like ? Just like Bobby Veen did ? John Smith, What you support is LAWLESSNESS.

no, I support the lawful execution of these animals.

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:27am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 12:34am: John Smith wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm: Yadda wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:10am: Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. yes, especially if they rape innocent kids. Well if that is true, i have to assume that you would support making the lynching of alleged child molesters lawful too ? I mean, if you believe that murder is OK [you know,   .....whenever it is 'justified'], then shouldn't we all just have a free for all, and be allowed [in law] to murder whomever we like ? Just like Bobby Veen did ? John Smith, What you support is LAWLESSNESS. no, I support the lawful execution of these animals.

John Smith,

Well thank you, at least,        ....for that concession.

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 10:50am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 7:27am: Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 12:34am: John Smith wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm: Yadda wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:10am: Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. yes, especially if they rape innocent kids. Well if that is true, i have to assume that you would support making the lynching of alleged child molesters lawful too ? I mean, if you believe that murder is OK [you know,   .....whenever it is 'justified'], then shouldn't we all just have a free for all, and be allowed [in law] to murder whomever we like ? Just like Bobby Veen did ? John Smith, What you support is LAWLESSNESS. no, I support the lawful execution of these animals. John Smith, Well thank you, at least,        ....for that concession.

nothing I haven't said before ... you should pay attention

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 11:16am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 7:27am: Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2016 at 12:34am: John Smith wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 1:53pm: Yadda wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:10am: Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. yes, especially if they rape innocent kids. Well if that is true, i have to assume that you would support making the lynching of alleged child molesters lawful too ? I mean, if you believe that murder is OK [you know,   .....whenever it is 'justified'], then shouldn't we all just have a free for all, and be allowed [in law] to murder whomever we like ? Just like Bobby Veen did ? John Smith, What you support is LAWLESSNESS. no, I support the lawful execution of these animals. John Smith, Well thank you, at least,        ....for that concession. nothing I haven't said before ... you should pay attention

I am not conversant with everything which you have posted, here on OzPol,
........but when i am engaged in a back-and-forth argument with someone like yourself,     .....i do try, to pay attention to what people have said.


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John Smith wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:10am: Clearly John Smith thinks that murder is OK, sometimes. yes

Yadda, you should file a legal action against the organization that managed your fostering and against your foster parents.

Instead of rescuing you, they turned you into a blatherskite.

You should apply to have the false rescue reversed.