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Title: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 12:54pm

How they 'do business', on the left - exposing the very public tactics being used by political leftists.

Exposing and identifying, today's 'humanists' and political leftists, and political progressives for what they are.....

AMERICAN FASCISTS          goto 3m 30s             7 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEPSjOBzRA

Yadda gives this YT, 'AMERICAN FASCISTS', 5/5 stars.

Please!!    .....do view it!

The public and political tactics of today's 'humanists' and political leftists, and political progressives = = suppression, physical assault, coercion, intimidation.

And to what purpose ???

To deny others the right to debate, and to deny others the right to publicly express their political opinions.    !!!!!!!

Fascism ???

Look up the meaning of that word, in a dictionary!!!

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm

Insanity ???

Look up the meaning of that word, in a dictionary!!!

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by bogarde73 on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:19pm

No, what he's referring to is true Greg.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:21pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

No, what he's referring to is true Greg.

I wan't referring to what he was referring to.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Dnarever on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 2:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:21pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

No, what he's referring to is true Greg.

I wan't referring to what he was referring to.

Not sure what he is referring to in all those hieroglyphics .

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Dnarever on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 2:14pm

Hey Yadda did you go to the ditch the witch rallies or some of the anti independents rallies, maybe the truck rally to Canberra ?

You could have helped to put our then PM into a chaff bag ?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 2:22pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 2:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:21pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

No, what he's referring to is true Greg.

I wan't referring to what he was referring to.

Not sure what he is referring to in all those hieroglyphics .

I'm not sure he's sure any more.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Frank on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 7:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

Insanity ???

Look up the meaning of that word, in a dictionary!!!

It will have you as an example.

Apologist.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 7:47pm

Frank wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 7:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

Insanity ???

Look up the meaning of that word, in a dictionary!!!

It will have you as an example.

Apologist.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 9:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

Insanity ???

Look up the meaning of that word, in a dictionary!!!

greggery,

Your posts do not contribute anything,    ....imo.

Many of your posts are clearly made, simply to attack, destroy and to disrupt debate,    ....imo.

You are an unreasonable, and [ultimately] irrational person,    ....imo.

You are prone to encouraging lawlessness [in others],       .....though i'm sure you would couch your temper and character, as that of a person who champions the freedoms and rights of all men.    ::)

In reality;
You are simply a person who cannot tolerate anyone publicly expressing any political view/opinion which does not align with your own political view/opinion,
......without feeling a need to seek to disrupt and attack their attempt at public expression.

greggery,

You have the nature and the personal character of a fascist [i.e. an intemperate oppressor],    ....imo.

Dictionary;
sanity = = the condition of being sane.    reasonable and rational behaviour.

Dictionary;
disrupt = =
1 disturb or interrupt.
2 drastically alter or destroy the structure of.

Quote:

A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY.

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

As the bloody French Revolution progressed, Edmund Burke wrote in "A Letter to a Member of the National Assembly," 1791:

"What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue?

It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without restraint.

Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites;

in proportion as they are disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good in preference to the flattery of knaves..."

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 9:50pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

Insanity ???

Look up the meaning of that word, in a dictionary!!!

LAWLESSNESS - is where unrestrained freedom, would lead each of us to.

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1458861531/0#0
[quote]

As the bloody French Revolution progressed, Edmund Burke wrote in "A Letter to a Member of the National Assembly," 1791:

"What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue?

It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without restraint.

Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites;

in proportion as they are disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good in preference to the flattery of knaves..."

[/quote]

Lucky I don't value your opinion, hey?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Frank on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 9:50pm:

Lucky I don't value your opinion, hey?

Apologist.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:28pm

Frank. Do you have a point you are trying to make?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by John Smith on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:29pm

for that matter, does Yadda? I gave up trying to decipher his gibberish ages ago

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:42pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:29pm:

for that matter, does Yadda? I gave up trying to decipher his gibberish ages ago

You tried in the first place? My eyes just glaze over when he posts.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by John Smith on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:44pm

mothra wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:29pm:

for that matter, does Yadda? I gave up trying to decipher his gibberish ages ago

You tried in the first place? My eyes just glaze over when he posts.

a few years ago .... I wonder, does he talk like that in real life? Is he really unable to string two coherent sentences together?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Frank on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:44pm

mothra wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Frank. Do you have a point you are trying to make?

Of course.

Greggorrypeccary is calling everyone an apologist who dares to identify Islam as the motivation for Islamic terrorism.

This is clearly an idiotic and mindless thing to do. I have asked him a few times to explain how the identification of motivation is an apology but he is unable to explain himself.

So now I am ridiculing him the same way - whatever he says is an apologist BS. The guy is a moron and so I am treating him like a moron - like he is treating everyone who disagrees with him.

Everyone else should join in and label all his utterances 'Apologist". He is an idiot who should be paid by his own coin. He cannot explain his position, he trolls everyone - the guy is a total menace. He posts gifs when you ask him to explain his point.

He is not honest or genuine. He is simply a pain who enjoys being a pain. He is a mindless guy whose only purpose is to be irritating. People here should drown him in his own stupidity.

So I propose that all his posts be responded to by a reply of "Apologist".

Civil disobedience in response to a moronic troll.

Can we do it? Yes we can.i

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by John Smith on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:46pm

just a hint

doesn't quite work if you call him an apologist and he's not making apologies for anyone ...

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:49pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

just a hint

doesn't quite work if you call him an apologist and he's not making apologies for anyone ...

What he said.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by The Grappler on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 4:23am

I believe Greg is regularly drowned in a vat of good vino...

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Dnarever on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:07am

John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

just a hint

doesn't quite work if you call him an apologist and he's not making apologies for anyone ...

I thought it was Franks signature.

I was wondering why he kept apologising with every post.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Dnarever on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:09am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 4:23am:

I believe Greg is regularly drowned in a vat of good vino...

Good vino does not come by the vat, it is even difficult to get in a cask.

I imagine it would likely be very ordinary vino.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Gnads on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:30am

Dnarever wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 4:23am:

I believe Greg is regularly drowned in a vat of good vino...

Good vino does not come by the vat, it is even difficult to get in a cask.

I imagine it would likely be very ordinary vino.

Actually all good vino comes from a vat ... originally.

It's not matured in a bottle with an expensive label.

And just because it comes with the "trendy brand name" & a $100 price tag doesn't mean it actually
tastes good.

I find all the carry on with wine buffs to be a complete
social climbing w/ank.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 4:59pm

Frank wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:44pm:

Greggorrypeccary.......

He is not honest or genuine.

He is simply a pain who enjoys being a pain.

He is a mindless guy whose only purpose is to be irritating.

Frank,

Thank you for your efforts.

But experience has taught me that it isn't possible to reason with, and that it is futile, to expect to influence, an unreasonable person. .....and the world today is full of such people!

'an unreasonable person' = = includes someone who won't respond honestly, to an argument based in truth.

And, you can't shame them.

Like moslems too, they are people without any shame.

Frank, a few quotes for you;

The best way to convince a fool he is wrong is to let him have his way.
- Josh Billings

!!!!!!

and.....

"When truth cannot make itself known in words, it will make itself known in deeds."
- Roger Scruton

i.e.
He who would disable the safety valve on a steam boiler, ...simply, so that he won't be annoyed by the hissing of excess steam, is a very silly person!

.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
Frederic Bastiat
[leftists, humanists, progressives, communists and moslems! ....they all belong in the same camp. - Yadda]

"...populism is always the handmaiden of fascism."
- Hard Little Machine

"There are only two races in the world, the decent and the indecent."
Victor Frankl - Nazi Holocaust survivor

1 Peter 2:16
As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

EVIL IN OUR MIDST;
In refusing to confront evil, in ignoring or denying what is true, we will not alleviate nor diminish what a threatening, evil menace always brings.
In denying the truth [of its presence and influence], we merely delay the inevitable evil day, of having to confront that evil.
And as night follows day, that day will come.
- Yadda

Proverbs 12:17
He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness...

We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
- Aristotle

Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by John Smith on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 5:03pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:

But experience has taught me that it isn't possible to reason with, and that it is futile, to expect to influence, an unreasonable person

which is exactly why I gave up asking you to write properly ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Frank on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 9:28pm

mothra wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Frank. Do you have a point you are trying to make?

Well, one of my points is that you, john, greg and a few others are simply operating with double standards. No matter how valid a criticism may be, you will always look for a onscure angle that will allow you to say that 'it's not about that AT ALL'.

It is simply not possible to have an intelligent disagreement with any of you because you all seem to be operating in accordance with some invisible code of 'must not make an honest point lest they show us we are wrong'.

So you all just make empty and stupid posts that go nowhere.

It's like you are all part of some fraternity of 'must not be honest about anything'.

Every topic of importance quickly deteriorates into some banal non-sequiturs when someone doesn't toe the 'current truth' of progressive pieties.

It is twisted and bizarre and pathetic.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 9:32pm

Frank wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Frank. Do you have a point you are trying to make?

Have you considered that we don't, in fact. think you speak "truth"?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Frank on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm

mothra wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 27^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Frank. Do you have a point you are trying to make?

Have you considered that we don't, in fact. think you speak "truth"?

Of course.

But beyond that - "Have you considered that we don't, in fact. think you speak "truth"?" - you have never once made a positive alternative proposal of what you do in fact think is truth. You don't because you know that you would open yourselves to critical appraisal and you simply do not have the mental heft to defend what you think you stand for.
The reason is that you are wholly negative, like all shrill PC monkeys. All you know is what you are against. You have no idea what you are for, let alone be able to articulate it.

So all you have is 'it's not that, it's not that either'.

You do not say what you are standing for.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by John Smith on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:22pm

Frank wrote on Apr 6^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Well, one of my points is that you, john, greg and a few others are simply operating with double standards.

why? because we don't agree with you?

you really felt that crying 'apologist' with every comment, irrespective of whether he is apologising for anyone or not was the way to go? Seriously?

That's what my 6 yr old does except he has an excuse in that he often doesn't know the meaning of the word he keeps repeating :D :D

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

[

Of course.

But beyond that - "Have you considered that we don't, in fact. think you speak "truth"?" - you have never once made a positive alternative proposal of what you do in fact think is truth. You don't because you know that you would open yourselves to critical appraisal and you simply do not have the mental heft to defend what you think you stand for.
The reason is that you are wholly negative, like all shrill PC monkeys. All you know is what you are against. You have no idea what you are for, let alone be able to articulate it.

So all you have is 'it's not that, it's not that either'.

You do not say what you are standing for.

No, i;'m very clear on what i stand for Frank. All people to be treated with decency, dignity and respect. Regardless of their race, religion, age, socio-economic status or political persuasion.

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

Have i not made that clear?

Simply because you do not understand such cncepts does not make then hollow or without merit.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by ian on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:30pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

But pro gay bullying.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by GordyL on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm

ian wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

But pro gay bullying.

Nope. I'm pro-Gay rights. And lesbian. And transgender. And intersex.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Yes. I'm thoroughly opposed to the politicising of religion.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by GordyL on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:37pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Yes. I'm thoroughly opposed to the politicising of religion.

Seeing as you can hardly get a Tally-Ho paper between conservative muslims and Islamists must get confusing at times

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:40pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Yes. I'm thoroughly opposed to the politicising of religion.

Seeing as you can hardly get a Tally-Ho paper between conservative muslims and Islamists must get confusing at times

I'm no fan of any organised religion. But i respect people's right to follow whatever faith they feel drawn to.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:00pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Yes. I'm thoroughly opposed to the politicising of religion.

Seeing as you can hardly get a Tally-Ho paper between conservative muslims and Islamists must get confusing at times

I'm no fan of any organised religion. But i respect people's right to follow whatever faith they feel drawn to.

Respecting people's rights?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by GordyL on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:13pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Yes. I'm thoroughly opposed to the politicising of religion.

Seeing as you can hardly get a Tally-Ho paper between conservative muslims and Islamists must get confusing at times

I'm no fan of any organised religion. But i respect people's right to follow whatever faith they feel drawn to.

I also respect the right but I can despise the religion itself

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:24pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Are you anti-islamist too?

Yes. I'm thoroughly opposed to the politicising of religion.

Seeing as you can hardly get a Tally-Ho paper between conservative muslims and Islamists must get confusing at times

I'm no fan of any organised religion. But i respect people's right to follow whatever faith they feel drawn to.

I also respect the right but I can despise the religion itself

Despise is a strong word. How can you not despise the adherents if you despise the religion?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by John Smith on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:26pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Of course.

All people to be treated with decency, dignity and respect. Regardless of their race, religion, age, socio-economic status or political persuasion.

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

Have i not made that clear?

Sorry Mothra, but you lost them with that ... all they can read is blah blah blah

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:28pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Sorry Mothra, but you lost them with that ... all they can read is blah blah blah

Indeed.

A statement like that would just blow their minds:

"All people to be treated with decency, dignity and respect. Regardless of their race, religion, age, socio-economic status or political persuasion."

That's the exact opposite of what conservatives/rightards believe.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Sorry Mothra, but you lost them with that ... all they can read is blah blah blah

It's because they're so filled with fear. They believe everything Rupert Murdoch has been telling them for decades.

One of the funniest things i read on here is how the media is supposed to be left leaning. The opposite is palpably true.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:02pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

But mothra, i would suggest, that you OPPOSE peaceful free speech,       ....whenever others want to express a political opinion which does not align with your own political opinion.

!!!!!

And that is what is seriously wrong with political leftists, and political progressives today, imo.

QUESTION;
Are political leftists, and political progressives today [in traditionally democratic nations, like Australia], trying to set themselves up as an actual defacto new political elite,    .....whose political opinions and political views must not be allowed to be publicly contradicted ???

I think that they are.

You only have to view the public tactics which the political leftists, and political progressives are using,    ......at public meetings/gatherings which have actually been organised by persons [by other citizens!], who wish to publicly express a differing point of view, to them [i.e. a point of view differing from the political leftists, and political progressives] !!!

These people, who are political leftists, and political progressives, have been seen on our TV screens to be frequently using actual public violence and actual public intimidation, so as to prevent others from voicing a political opinion.

PROPOSITION;
People who are willing to employ such political tactics [which is verging on open political violence!!!], are not upholding or respecting other peoples democratic rights and freedoms !!

They are in fact, trying to prevent what should be a basic right in a free and democratic nation, and that is the right to peacefully express your own opinion [on social and political issues].

And that tactic is, historically, what political fascists have always done [i.e. sought to prevent political expression by persons who did not support the fascists agenda] !!!

Again, i repeat, it can be seen that political leftists, and political progressives [in nations like Australia], want to be our new political overlords !!

And they want to be able to silence public political debate, when they disagree with the opinions which are being expressed.

Political leftists, and political progressives are portraying themselves as 'anti-fascists', when they attend public meeting being held by anti-ISLAM protesters.

But the fact is, that the political leftists, and political progressives are using the exact same political tactics which fascists have always employed !!!

e.g.
WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO CITED IN THE O.P. OF THIS THREAD.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:06pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

But mothra, i would suggest, that you OPPOSE peaceful free speech, ....whenever others want to express a political opinion which does not align with your own political opinion.

I do no oppose peaceful free speech at all. I debate ideas and thoughts.

I condemn hate speech.

I may not agree with you but i'd die for your right to express yourself peacefully.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:07pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

But mothra, i would suggest, that you OPPOSE peaceful free speech, ....whenever others want to express a political opinion which does not align with your own political opinion.

What would you base that lie on?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:18pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

.......i would suggest, that you OPPOSE peaceful free speech, ....whenever others want to express a political opinion which does not align with your own political opinion.

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

I do no oppose peaceful free speech at all. I debate ideas and thoughts.

I condemn hate speech.

I may not agree with you but i'd die for your right to express yourself peacefully.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

What would you base that lie on?

AMERICAN FASCISTS goto 52s 7 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEPSjOBzRA

again......
goto 52s

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:23pm

Yeah well, that didn't really answer the question, now did it?

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:28pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

Yeah well, that didn't really answer the question, now did it?

Yadda, answer a question.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:45pm

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

QUESTION;
Are political leftists, and political progressives today [in traditionally democratic nations, like Australia], trying to set themselves up as an actual defacto new political elite, .....whose political opinions and political views must not be allowed to be publicly contradicted ???

I think that they are.

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Political leftists, and political progressives are portraying themselves as 'anti-fascists', when they attend public meetings being held by anti-ISLAM protesters.

But the fact is, that the political leftists, and political progressives are using the exact same political tactics which fascists have always employed !!!

e.g.
WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO CITED IN THE O.P. OF THIS THREAD.

AMERICAN FASCISTS goto 52s 7 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEPSjOBzRA

again......
goto 52s

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:48pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:45pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

Yadda wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

AMERICAN FASCISTS goto 52s 7 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEPSjOBzRA

again......
goto 52s

Get some help.

Please

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:56pm

Yadda, you still haven't explained how i "oppose free speech".

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by innocentbystander. on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:21am

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

No, i;'m very clear on what i stand for Frank. All people to be treated with decency, dignity and respect. Regardless of their race, religion, age, socio-economic status or political persuasion.

Well thats absolutely fabulous and now that you have got your endorphine rush from being the most morally righteous person in the history of planet Earth what are you going to do with all those people that have come here under false pretenses that view your altruism as a profound weakness.

No its OK, allow me, you are not going to do anything, you are going to let evil walk all over yourself and all those around you because you are not the sort of person that offers up resistance, you have no self respect and you feel that you are not even worthy of responding to the threat.

Your only answer is to kowtow, this is the one true path that every leftard takes.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by mothra on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:40am

innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 1:21am:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

No, i;'m very clear on what i stand for Frank. All people to be treated with decency, dignity and respect. Regardless of their race, religion, age, socio-economic status or political persuasion.

What evil are you referring to Bystander?

Racism? Xenophobia? Violence?

How does anything i say suggest i hold no resistance to what i consider unpalatable. Clearly i do. Who am i "kowtowing" to?

I'm just not a paranoid, racist, wing-nut is all. If people break the law, and the law includes mandates against racial vilification, then they should be dealt with accordingly.

But they should still be treated with decency, dignity and in keeping with a higher ethical standard than they have displayed.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 7:47am

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 11:56pm:

Yadda, you still haven't explained how i "oppose free speech".

mothra,

This is what you declared.

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mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

I'm anti-racist, anti-Islamophobia, anti-prejudice and anti-discrimination.

mothra,

You declare that you are 'anti-racist'.

I have been [falsely] declared to be a 'racist' here on OzPol, because i oppose what ISLAM teaches and promotes.

You declare that you are 'anti-Islamophobia'.

I have been declared to be a Islamophobe here on OzPol, because i oppose what ISLAM teaches and promotes.

You declare that you are 'anti-discrimination'.

Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another. good judgement or taste.

AND;

Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.

mothra,

You declare that you oppose discrimination, and are 'anti-discrimination'.

Why so ?

To declare that you oppose discrimination, and are 'anti-discrimination' is a broad and 'catch-all' statement, imo!

e.g.
Are you declaring that putting murderers and violent criminals in goal, is somehow wrong, and that, in doing so, society is wrongly 'discriminating' against murderers and violent criminals ???

Where is YOUR distinction between good and evil, in declaring that you are 'anti-discrimination' ?

And, imo, it is the exact same issue with my 'discrimination' against ISLAM.

Mainstream ISLAM is a philosophy which [within its doctrines, and tenets, and laws] teaches every moslem,       .....that a moslem who murders an enemy of Allah, is a good and virtuous person.

mothra,

I choose, to 'discriminate' against those who defend ISLAM, and those who want to see the unrestrained spread of ISLAM.

mothra,

ISLAM is a philosophy which exists to encourage political violence [terrorism] against disbelieving non-moslems.

Mainstream ISLAM teaches and promotes religious bigotry and religious violence against those who don't believe, as moslems believe.
[e.g. Koran 9.29 Koran 2.216 Koran 9.123 Koran 9.111 ]

So in opposing those who oppose the unrestrained spread of ISLAM,       .....you are supporting those who promote religious bigotry and religious violence,       .....and you are supporting the suppression of the rights and freedoms of those who want to publicly declare their opposition to the unrestrained spread of ISLAM [and what it promotes].

.

mothra,

IMO, you are a willing and knowing supporter of religious bigotry and religious violence, of religious and political fascism,       .....and of the suppression of the peaceful rights and freedoms of persons, who are seeking to peacefully declare their opposition to the unrestrained spread of ISLAM [and what it promotes].

WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO CITED IN THE O.P. OF THIS THREAD.

AMERICAN FASCISTS          goto 52s             7 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeEPSjOBzRA

again......
goto 52s

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 8:30am

Yadda wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 7:47am:

mothra,

IMO, you are a willing and knowing supporter of religious bigotry and religious violence, of religious and political fascism,

.....and of the suppression of the peaceful rights and freedoms of persons, who are seeking to peacefully declare their opposition to the unrestrained spread of ISLAM [and what it promotes].

HOW CREDIBLE ARE THE CLAIMS BEING MADE BY APOLOGISTS FOR ISLAM ?

It is very difficult, today, in this digital age, and the 24/7 news cycle, and with our almost universal and ready www access to information, ....for people, apologists for ISLAM/moslems, to keep insisting that the atrocities we see being committed in the name of ISLAM, have actually nothing to do with ISLAM.

Such claims [of 'innocence'], being made on behalf of moslems/ISLAM, are simply barefaced lies!!

what mothra said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1459918493/11#11

what Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1456814775/3#3

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:27am

Yadda, if you can't afford your medication I'm willing to chip in.

All you have to do is ask.

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Yadda on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 2:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

Yadda, if you can't afford your medication I'm willing to chip in.

All you have to do is ask.

greggery,

You denigrate me because i try to expose ISLAM for what it is,

......and yet, political leftists, and political progressives like yourself, will uncritically defend moslems and moslems communities !!

And you do that, even when moslems declare themselves to be followers of ISLAM !!

And when ISLAM is a philosophy which within its doctrines, and tenets, and laws, 'religiously' sanctions hatred of non-moslems, and deceit, barefaced lying and intimidation and political violence [including murder of those whose oppose its violent agenda], in the pursuit of ISLAM's political supremacism and political tyranny !!

e.g.
"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

And political leftists, and political progressives like yourself, will uncritically defend the right of moslems and moslems communities [to live among us!!], .....even when it is exposed that mainstream ISLAM is a philosophy which [within its doctrines, and tenets, and laws] teaches every moslem,

.....that a moslem who murders an enemy of Allah, is a good and virtuous person.

Watch the words coming out of their own mouths.

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Quote:

"What makes Allah happy?

Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

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Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

Title: Re: How they 'do business', on the left - exposing th
Post by Frank on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:44am

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

ian wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

But pro gay bullying.

Nope. I'm pro-Gay rights. And lesbian. And transgender. And intersex.

You are only intolerant of people who are not as tolerant as you are?