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Message started by GordyL on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 2:52pm

Title: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 2:52pm
I fully understand honour killings are cross cultural and probably existed in all cultures in some time throughout history.
see link http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/fv-vf/hk-ch/p3.html

But lets talk 2016, this is a bit of a worry eh?

In February, Punjab, the country's largest province, passed a landmark law criminalising all forms of violence against women.

However, more than 30 religious groups, including all the mainstream Islamic political parties, have threatened to launch protests if the law is not repealed.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35943732

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 3:35pm
perhaps it'ld be better of all the muslim men killed all the muslim women?

you know, to really show how honourable that really are

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by freediver on Apr 4th, 2016 at 6:43pm
These are the 'mainstream' Muslims who are not trying to kill us. Hooray.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by issuevoter on Apr 4th, 2016 at 8:57pm
And to think these bastards have nuclear weapons.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Valkie on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:53pm
There is nothing honorable in killing or beating someone weaker than yourself.

But the fact that this is seen as honorable by a religious group is abhorrent.

Sad, Sick religion.

But, if one removes the deluded sociopath rantings of Mohamed, its really not all that different from the christian and Jewish religions.

God must be crying that so many have twisted his words to create such a sad pathetic world.


Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by freediver on Apr 8th, 2016 at 10:18pm

Quote:
But, if one removes the deluded sociopath rantings of Mohamed, its really not all that different from the christian and Jewish religions.


You should tell Gandalf. He is all about reform.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by gandalf on Apr 8th, 2016 at 11:15pm
"reform" = stop being muslim

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 11:15pm:
"reform" = stop being muslim


I'd never tell someone to stop being Muslim.
I think the answer is to be less Muslim.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:33pm
How do you stop them being pakistani though?

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Karnal on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:34pm

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
How do you stop them being pakistani though?


Good point.

Gordy?

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by gandalf on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:44pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 11:15pm:
"reform" = stop being muslim


I'd never tell someone to stop being Muslim.
I think the answer is to be less Muslim.


Funny - the evidence seem to suggest that being more muslim is a good solution:


Quote:
In fact, the authors note that frequent mosque attendance “is linked with higher levels of civic engagement. Muslims who regularly attend mosques are more likely to work with their neighbors to solve community problems” as well as to vote.

According to the survey, “Muslims who say their faith is important to their identity are more likely to say being American is important to how they think of themselves than those who express a weak religious identity.”

It turns out that attending a mosque in the United States, like attending a church, actually seems to have a moderating influence on people’s behavior.


http://nypost.com/2016/03/27/how-us-mosques-genuinely-help-fight-extremism/

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:45pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
How do you stop them being pakistani though?


Good point.

Gordy?


Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.


Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:53pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
How do you stop them being pakistani though?


Good point.

Gordy?


Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.


That pakistani culture you ask them to leave behind has shaped their very being.  How can they be expected to leave their selves behind?


Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:21pm

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
How do you stop them being pakistani though?


Good point.

Gordy?


Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.


That pakistani culture you ask them to leave behind has shaped their very being.  How can they be expected to leave their selves behind?


I just can't imagine where you'd even start with attitudes like this.

A gang rape case in Pakistan has been allegedly settled for 30 maunds of wheat by local elders, highlighting the grave travesty of justice in the country.

If you refuse it, you are banished

The man said that after he refused to accept the compensation he was forced to leave the area with his family. He alleged that since local media highlighted the issue, local elites have been threatening him to keep mum and withdraw the case, the report said.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/in-pakistan-gang-rape-case-closed-with-wheat-as-compensation/article8426537.ece


Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:25pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:21pm:

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

GordyL wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
How do you stop them being pakistani though?


Good point.

Gordy?


Oh gosh what a silly question.
Short of some pretty major medical procedures asking them to stop being Pakistani would be difficult.

I would however ask them to perhaps leave behind the worst aspects of Pakistani culture.


That pakistani culture you ask them to leave behind has shaped their very being.  How can they be expected to leave their selves behind?


I just can't imagine where you'd even start with attitudes like this.

A gang rape case in Pakistan has been allegedly settled for 30 maunds of wheat by local elders, highlighting the grave travesty of justice in the country.

If you refuse it, you are banished

The man said that after he refused to accept the compensation he was forced to leave the area with his family. He alleged that since local media highlighted the issue, local elites have been threatening him to keep mum and withdraw the case, the report said.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/in-pakistan-gang-rape-case-closed-with-wheat-as-compensation/article8426537.ece



This system wasn't implemented by aliens you know.

Pakistani culture is a manifestation of pakistanis. 


Or, to put it another way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5nGjBf2pCg

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:31pm
How much exactly is 30 maunds of wheat?
When ever I google is I just get news about rape in Pakistan.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:36pm
1 maund is a unit of weight equal to about 38kgs.

They hate us for our metric system.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:41pm

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:36pm:
1 maund is a unit of weight equal to about 38kgs.

They hate us for our metric system.


It would be so much easier to know how many children you could afford to rape by listing the fee in KGs of wheat.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:52pm
It was a gang rape, so I wonder how much they all chipped in. 

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:55pm

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:52pm:
It was a gang rape, so I wonder how much they all chipped in. 


Ah yeah.
I thought a ton of wheat was a bit hefty for a rape in Pakistan for just one person.

I wonder when they sow their crops if they plan out how much will be saved for food, how much goes to market and how much pays for rapes.


Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 2:30pm
And how much western "food aid" is actually "rape aid".

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by GordyL on Apr 9th, 2016 at 2:34pm

... wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 2:30pm:
And how much western "food aid" is actually "rape aid".


They seem to be pretty self sufficient in rape currency production.

Pakistan's largest food crop is wheat. In 2005, Pakistan produced 21,591,400 metric rapes of wheat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Pakistan

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Honky on Apr 9th, 2016 at 3:38pm
I wonder how much rapeseed they produce.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Valkie on Apr 10th, 2016 at 5:08pm
Now I know what the Burks is for.....

Its to hide the foreplay bruises.

Now I get it

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by James on Apr 10th, 2016 at 11:59pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
Now I know what the Burks is for.....

Its to hide the foreplay bruises.

Now I get it


and the muslim LGBTI's and children.

Title: Re: Pakistan honour killings on the rise
Post by Valkie on Apr 11th, 2016 at 10:09am
Oh you will get into twowble for that one..... :o :o :o :o

LGBTI's hidden under tents, what an idea?

Lesbian - Seriously punished by Muzzos
Gay - Very seriously punished by Muzzos
Bi - As above.
Trans - they all practice that anyway with their dresses they wear. That's why they have beards, its the only way of telling them apart.
Intersex - I have no idea what this is, but you can bet the muzzos don't like it.

Remember the first reaction to anything by a muzzo is    HATRED, followed by PROTESTS and ending in BLOWING THEMSELVES AND EVERYONE ELSE UP.

Great religion, why isn't it called a CULT like all the other devil worshiping cults.

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