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Title: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am
He is now the expert on all things internet apparently. Probably thousands of hours on twitter gives him the quals as a guru.
Turnbull was setting up OzEmail when he was I'm diapers. What he is is a token Muslim on a token program on a token channel. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Leftwinger on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:44am
He nailed it
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:45am
He makes his wife wear a head covering to appease his sky daddy. I can't take anyone serious who'd do that.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Fireball on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:49am
Just like the white boongs, once they get a bit of an education they become an expert on all matters. Just another self-opinionated Muslim a/hole.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Leftwinger on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:56am
Straight to the personal attacks , why , because he is dead right, fancy talking about a 21st century economy and giving us a 60th in the place connection thats slower , will take longer amd is more expensive , epic failure from team rightard , once again ::)
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:02am Its time wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:56am:
I agree with him about the NBN, but why does he need to make his wife wear a bag on her head to make his little sky friend happy? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by cods on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:18am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am:
he is a Muslim he is allowed to say and think what he likes....... his dislike of anyone from the right is so obvious I cringe.... |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Leftwinger on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:02am:
Who gives a chit what she wears, I certainly don't |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:02am:
probably because she is ugly now stick to the issue of our 2nd generation dial up internet :( |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:33am Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23am:
So he supports modernity when it comes to the NBN yet for his wife he's happy to make her wear bronze age attire. A bit contradictory? I wonder if he's only attacking the NBN as it's a suitable and justifiable platform for yet another attack against the right |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:35am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am:
A token Muslim on two channels - Aly also does a program on Radio National. And a columnist - Walkley award winning columnist for 2015. And a lecturer at a prestigious Melbourne university. And... I won’t go on. He’s a token Muslim, no? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:36am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:33am:
Moving onto his wife, now are we? You’re not racist, Gordy. Waleed Aly’s wife is one of us. It’s Waleed who’s the snippy little brown bastard. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:40am
If you watch the project, you deserve to be subjected to sanctimonious posturing from a bobble-headed boy in a suit.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:43am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:36am:
Where have I mentioned his tint ? I've only questioned his judgement about believing so firmly in a pretend sky friend that he makes his wife wear a Haloween costume. Why do you always mention people's skin colour? Are you in fact an agent provocateur working for the KKK? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Leftwinger on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:44am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:36am:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:44am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:40am:
Listen to his radio program - Aly and a philosopher discuss the big ideas. I recommend it. You’re free in the mornings, yes? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:44am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am:
"WALEED Aly is one of the few Australian media personalities you’ll come across who refuses to interact on social media." "Aly, who joined Carrie Bickmore and Pete Helliar as a permanent presenter on The Project in January, is the only member of the team without a social media presence. The 37-year-old maintains he’s always been “quite passionate about not being on it”. “I think if you’re not careful, it can infect your work,” he told news.com.au. “If I were to go on air and in the back of my mind is something churning about what Twitter is going to say then all I will do is betray my job, basically." Link Do you ever get tired of being wrong? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:46am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:43am:
You go first, Gordy. Why are you discussing his wife? I’ll then happily answer your question. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:49am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:44am:
Maybe. What's it called? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:51am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:49am:
The Minefield. Podcasts are available. His SMH political columns are worth reading too. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:54am |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by cods on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:55am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:40am:
I avoid the days hes on....I just dont like him...his manner not sure but never have...as for a Gold Logie... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D whats the betting he wins.. the only muslim nominated I am sure. ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:57am cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:55am:
I'll watch The Project on days that Waleed is on, and Bickmore is not. Otherwise, I try to avoid it. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Leftwinger on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:00am cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:55am:
I hope he wins , the rightards will go in to meltdown :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:00am
Waleed Aly is as far from a token Muslim as you can get. He’s established a formidable media presence in spite of being a Muslim. Aly is probably the only TV presenter who made a transition from academia. He’s one of the youngest lecturers to get tenure.
Waleed Aly is an aberration. He’s got to where is is because he’s smart. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:02am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:45am:
source? and I don't mean that she wears a head covering, I mean that he makes her. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:02am Its time wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:00am:
No true rightard would care. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:07am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:33am:
I always listen to someone who believes in bullsh1t sky fairy and abides by book written by a violent peadophile back in the 12th century, because they have the most rational and valid things to say. ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:09am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:51am:
Ah so you can open podcasts of Muslim apologists yet you can't manage when it's an ex HuT whistle blower. How bizarre |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:10am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:02am:
It was just another lie from the Islamophobes. Lies and irrational fear: that's all they have. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:17am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:00am:
No even close and he's not even a very smart or entertaining one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Kruszelnicki City wankers fawn of over him precisely because he is a mussie and they want to look modern and progressive and when you are a token, it's not because you are good at what you do, but because you are there. BTW, who gives a fkk about a friggin logie, talk to me when he is good enough for a Nobel or Stevenson Prize. ;D ;D ;D ;D ![]() |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:21am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:02am:
Has he come up with anything yet, John? ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:23am A tinted Muslim, 100 times smarter than any rightard. Man, that's gotta hurt! ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by tickleandrose on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:28am
I cant believe there are still adults here, thinking that they are so great, that they pick on someone's skin tone, name, and religion, rather than attacking the issue with reasoned argument. It is shameful, absolutely shameful.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:37am BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:17am:
Spot on. Hes the perfect leftie. Brown, emotionally driven, physically atrocious, pushes all the right buttons. So flawless in fact, im not 100% convinced hes not an android. This is thr first ive heard of logies, but id be surprised if he didnt win. Why wouldnt the media pick their guy, the embodiment of what theyd like us all to be? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:54am GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:09am:
I haven’t listened to any podcasts, Gordy. I hear Aly’s show on the car radio. Are you interested in any particular quote by Waleed Aly? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:59am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:37am:
Sounds like you’ve seen his picture in a publicity shot, Honky. Have you ever actually read or heard anything Aly’s said? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:10am
I dont disagree with a lot of what he says. Still, he is brown, emotionally driven and physically inept - the perfect storm of leftism, which explains his success at least as much as his intelligence does.
Do you disagree? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Yadda on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:20am Clearly Waleed Aly presents on our TV screens as an intelligent, articulate person, and an intellectual type [i.e. he is educated and 'well read' ]. And yet even though reputedly Waleed Aly is an intellectual giant among men, .....i have never once heard Waleed Aly articulate any criticism of what the principle tenets of mainstream ISLAM authorise, and would establish, if brought to their full fruition, ? ......i.e. a society which would be governed by a political and theological tyranny. Waleed Aly, .....the intellectual giant, apparently, has found no fault with ISLAM's doctrines, and tenets, and laws, .....which do promote moslem supremacism [and a supremacist moslem mono-culture, Koran 9.29], ....and a governance system which also promotes and encourages moslem/ISLAMIC political violence as a legitimate means to 1/ achieve and 2/ maintain that [moslem] political supremacism [Koran 2.216 Koran 9.123 Koran 9.111 Koran 33. 60,61 Koran 5.33]. QUESTION; Why is that ? . WHAT ARE THE PUNISHMENTS WHICH ISLAM SANCTIONS FOR THOSE WHO ARE GUILTY OF POLITICAL DISSENT ???? "The punishment of those who......strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world..." Koran 5.33 In ISLAM 'mischief' is commonly used as a euphemism for un-ISLAMIC behaviour. "Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City....whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)." Koran 33.60,61 Google; staggering political execution toll, iran QUESTION; Where is the intellectual Waleed Aly, ....on ISLAM's stated murderous laws and murderous cultural [i.e. religious] tenets ? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:36am
Thanks to Karnal for pointing this out. I've left out one of his other quals - he's a token Muslim academic too.
Onya Waleed, or should that be Onya Aly . . .oh what the hell, who cares. (Onya Aly Waleed?) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by tickleandrose on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:39am
Evil lies within human mind, and not on the scriptures. To believe otherwise, is the fallacy of religions. The base cause of near most if not all of the suffering and evil are due to greed, and cruelty of human mind. Unfortunately, it is also part of the basic survival mechanism that made our race successful in the past. However, the future is different. Its different because science have advanced, and our methods of killing had become more cruel and destructive .
If we keep on mire in the past, dwell ourselves on scriptures, then you will never find the solution or the pathway to peace. Instead, you will find even more endless cycles of hatred and destruction. Surely, if a benevolent entity really exist, then it would not want the vicious cycle to continue. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:42am
this is just typical of rightards
as soon as someone speaks out against or says something about rightards or their polices (or lack thereoff), the numb nuts from the right all come out and attack the person. Why don't you argue against his arguments instead of acting like a bunch of knobs? Is it because you can't? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:46am
Sounds like you revere this boy johnsmith.
Just as jesus was the perfect man to christians, waleed aly is the perfect man to those who follow the leftard religion. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:46am
I'd like to see Waleed win the GOld Logie if only to see the frothing that will result.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:46am
I am more interested in what Satyajit Das has to say than the token guru of Channel 10.
Don't know what Das is, don't care. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:48am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Now there's an intellectual qual we can all respect. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:48am
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:49am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Revere? not at all ... I don't normally watch him although I have seen him while channel surfing. Why don't you try dispute his argument instead of worrying about his religion or lefties in general? Is it because you can't? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:55am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:49am:
Because I dont disagree with it. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Yadda on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:59am tickleandrose wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:39am:
I don't blame God, ....for MY choices, here. tickleandrose, This place isn't real. This place is a 'construct'. .....imo. This place is only a 'shakedown' and proving ground, You have a conscience. And so do i. And so does every other human being. Deuteronomy 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no. Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. We all choose our own path here. And that is our purpose here. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:04am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:55am:
so you thought you'd use the opportunity to highlight your racism just for the sake of it? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:08am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:04am:
No racism here, just an observation about marketing. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:09am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:08am:
what's he marketing? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:10am:
I agree that you’re free to disagree with Aly and say why if you’re critiquing him. I don’t agree that he’s an android. You’ve already contradicted this by saying he’s emotionally driven (for a lecturer in political studies at Monash Uni). But how is he pysically inept? And would you say that Piers Ackerman, Alan.Jones, Ray Hadley and Andrew Bolt are emotionally driven too? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:12am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:09am:
Telstra? The banks? Channel 10 reality shows? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:12am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11am:
they're christians, the sun shines out of their arse |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:12am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11am:
I'm not qualified to comment, as I have never listened to or read any of their stuff. I expect they probably would be, otherwise they wouldn't be so polarising. I know people like to say they're all about "logic and reason" but that's rarely true. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by tickleandrose on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:12am
re Yadda
I do not think we should blame god for the suffering of the world. For it is the collective evils inside individuals that is the root cause of suffering. Whether or not this world is 'real', or a proving ground, it does not matter. What it matter is - what we do in it. I believe, religion are neither good or evil by itself. The scriptures can be there, but if there is no one to read it, then it would not have be able to do any evil or good. Rather, its the mortal men and women that bring with them evil and suffering of this world. Just say, Yadda, the God is almighty, and by some work of miracle, ALL of the Islam scriptures had disappeared from not only the material present, but also the illusional past and future. Do you think all the wars and suffering will stop? The answer is NO. There will be other people to hate, there will be other scripture to criticize just as you do now. And all this, because, we are all different to each other. And the cycle of suffering will continue. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:14am Yadda wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:59am:
You’re off Bible quotes, Y. You’ve been demoted. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:19am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:12am:
That’s strange. Bolt’s columns are posted here regularly. You’ve even commented on them. But fair enough. Do you think Pickering is emotionally driven? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:21am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:12am:
Jones, and I think Bolt and Ackerman, are atheists, JS. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:21am
Ackerman & Bolt are good opinion journos.
Jones & Hadley are what they are and they do it well. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:22am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:19am:
Pickering that other wanker who used to be on the project? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:23am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:21am:
Did they win the Walkley for best columnist, Bogie? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:24am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:22am:
Sorry, I meant Herbie’s favourite columnist. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:25am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:24am:
Never read him. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:29am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:21am:
they're not even journalists. At best they are columnists |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:30am
DENIED.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:30am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:21am:
irrelevant. They're not muslim. That's all that matters |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:31am ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:25am:
Strange. You’ve commented on Pickering plenty of times too. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:31am John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:30am:
Good point. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:32am
I never click on herbs links. I've asked him nicely to paste at least some text, but he just won't do it.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:36am
You’ve certainly added to the discussion, Honky. Strange how you’re only an expert on Aly, wouldn’t you say?
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:40am Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:23am:
I don't know. Does that actually prove anything? How many journos do we have left? It's a declining population but there must still be 1500? 2000? Whether they win an award, they are still very successful. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:41am
No, not strange at all. I think you'll find I comment on others reactions and comments. These mainstream talking heads aren't exactly bringing revolutionary ideas that've never been heard before.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:23am:
I agree he's smart, very smart and as a left wing racist I agree with many things he says and disagree with others. One thing disturbs me is despite his intelligence he's been unable to cast free the shackles of his medieval cult and encourage others to free themselves of the dogmatic doctrine which kills their critical thinking and enslaves their minds. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:33pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:46am:
You place a lot of importance on that Gold Logie don't you? ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:34pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
Not overly just looking to the shitfight that will ensue. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:37pm
I cant see why a shitfight would ensue over the winner of a logie.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:38pm ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:37pm:
Yeah, right. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:39pm
Insert some form of "How dare that award go to an uppity Muslim/leftie" etc etc etc
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:40pm ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:37pm:
It won't |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:44pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
It'd a fkkken Logie you dolt, not the Nobel Prize for Light Comedy |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:44pm
Yeah, i think thats a bit of projection. The main groups who care about who wins a logie and other showbiz gossip are women and homosexuals, and both of these are overwhelmingly leftist.
Just like whenever a member of a protected victim group does something terrible, the leftist hive starts fretting about a "backlash" that never materializes, youre going to be disappointed when (not if) aly wins, and nothing happens. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:46pm
IN my view they are all winners
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:10am:
I think we established in another thread there is in fact no such thing as Islamophobia. But you're an accommodationist. I bet you think Heavens Gate were a bit of all right because they were neat and had nice sneakers. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:52pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
no, you started a thread where you claimed there was no such thing ... you've yet to establish it. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:01pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:52pm:
No because any time anything is introduced as evidence on side jumps up and down and says 'you're islamophobic you're islamophibic' so it was won by default. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:06pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:01pm:
so you completely disregard the fact that they could be right and declare yourself the winner? not sure that's how it works in the real world Gordy ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Dsmithy70 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:09pm
So 6 pages of rubbish where the only place the internet/NBN is mentioned is the OP.
Lots of discussion of religion & apparently the size of one's testicles in relation to political leanings. Face it, our apparent saviours from dysfunctional government are in fact EVEN WORSE, but they have been lead by men rather than a women so they get a pass on most things & hollow defence from the fan boys. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:40pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:06pm:
Ok, so answer this please. Is Islam perfect? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:57pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
no ... far from it. I can also say the same about ANY of the organised religions |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:02pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Cool, we're making progress. When ever any actual critique of Islam is made, the points are never addressed, just shouts of Islamophobia. Pretty cheap way to debate, don't you think? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:08pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:02pm:
No. I disagree ... claims of Islamaphobia are usually made whenever you make a topic that is completely unrelated to Islam, about Islam. Take this thread for example. Not one person (yourself included) has addressed his comments. Your only concerns appears to be his religion and that his wife, who is not a public figure and has nothing to do with the topic, wears a hijab . It's this irrational fear of everything Islamic that makes you an Islamaphobe. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:09pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:08pm:
He's a member of a batsh!t crazy cult, it's on topic. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:12pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:09pm:
thanks for proving my point. for you, any time someone Islamic is mentioned, or someone Islamic comments on something in the public domain, all you think is ' batsh!t crazy cult' :D :D :D :D that's the very definition of an Islamaphobe |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:19pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:12pm:
No, I think the things they believe are batsh!t crazy. I have the exact same opinion of fundamentalist Christians and Scientologists. IMHO believing in Xenu makes you as batsh!t crazy as believing in Allah as it does if you're a fundamentalist snake handler. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:36pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:19pm:
I think anyone who believe in religion is mad, but that doesn't mean their opinions on other things are any less valid .. it has nothing to do with his comment on the NBN. That you can't differentiate between the two makes you an islamaphobe. When Turnbull made one of his many comments on the NBN, how many times did you bring his Christianity into it? Or Abbott? or anyone else that wasn't Islamic? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:43pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Well it does for me. IMHO, Turnby is a small c Christian. (See text below) He doesn't base his political decisions in strict accordance of his faith. Abbott on the other hand, anyone who kisses Pells ring ;) I find unfit for office. I'm an avowed Abbott hater. Mrs Ali wears a bag on her head because obviously Mrs Ali is deeply religious, so they both go into my nutjob pile. Raised Presbyterian, Turnbull converted to Roman Catholicism in 2002.[96] However, he has found himself at odds with the church's teaching on abortion, stem cell research and same-sex marriage.[97][98] Turnbull supported legislation relaxing restrictions on abortion pill RU486 and he also voted for the legalisation of somatic cell nuclear transfer.[99][100][101] He did so despite the vocal public opposition to both proposals by Cardinal George Pell, the then-Archbishop of Sydney. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:54pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Religious nutters are just that and yes their opinions on other matters are just as invalid, you can't believe in a sky fairy and expect to be taken seriously on anything else. I don't know much about turnbulls religious beliefs but I do know that abbott has be kicked from pillar to post about his and it has tainted his standing among many because of it and rightly so. You can have absolute belief in a magical sky fairy or you can believe in the scientific method but not both, they are mutually exclusive. So waleed or abbotts or the popes opinions on pretty much everything that is science based is irrelevant. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:28pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:54pm:
that explains why you used to hang onto Abbotts every word :D :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:29pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:52pm:
Gordy also claimed he had evidence of Australian Muslims trying to establish a Muslim theocracy. He's yet to establish that too, but he did try to sell me a book. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:33pm
Karnal would love a face a couple of balls from Waleed. miam miam.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:34pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
Think again. Islamophobia is real. This forum proves it beyond all reasonable doubt. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:35pm Its time wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23am:
He certainly does. Part of his career achievements has been the acquisition of a beautiful, white, converted, Token Wife who wears his brand on her in the form of a hijab. She is part of his display of male peacock feathers. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BigOl64 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:43pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:28pm:
You're an idiot Just because I know to an absolute certainty the socialists are inbred cretins, doesn't mean Im and abbott supporter. Mostly because of statements like yours, greggy, and greens. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Dsmithy70 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:45pm Quote:
As opposed to your beautiful resourceful missus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSNHfAX_vZA |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:47pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
Grown men who feel threatened by a piece of women's clothing. Is there anything funnier (or more cowardly)? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:00pm bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am:
Other than a little dribble about nothing at all, can you dispute anything that Waleed said. He was spot-on with every point he made. You, on the other hand, have NO counter argument. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:03pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:29pm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir Hizb ut-Tahrir (Arabic: حزب التحرير Ḥizb at-Taḥrīr; Party of Liberation) is a radical,[1] international, pan-Islamic political organisation, which describes its "ideology as Islam", and its aim as the re-establishment of "the Islamic Khilafah (Caliphate)" or Islamic state. The new caliphate would unify the Muslim community (Ummah)[2] in a unitary (not federal)[3] "superstate" of unified Muslim-majority countries[4] spanning from Morocco in West Africa to the southern Philippines in East Asia. The proposed state would enforce Islamic Shariah law,[5] return to its "rightful place as the first state in the world",[5] and carry "the Da'wah of Islam" to the rest of the world.[6] |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:07pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Grown men who feel threatened by a piece of women's clothing are much funnier (and more cowardly). |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:09pm cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:55am:
WTF has being a Muslim got to do with it? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:15pm Lobo wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:09pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:07pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Aussie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm Quote:
I suppose many women don't like seeing women running around in virtually nothing either. So what? You don't like the way I dress? Stiff sheet. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:28pm:
How did you get from me saying I'm an avowed Abbott hater to me hanging on his every word? Did you open one of your old paint cans today and get high? I did more than any person here to get Abbott removed from PM. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm
So, other than the OP, who still hasn't given any reason, what did Waleed say about the NBN, Abbott and Turnbull that was wrong?
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:19pm Lobo wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
I have no idea, I don't watch commercial TV. It's garbage. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:25pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
So your comments, thus far, on Waleed's segment about the NBN, Abbott and Turnbull are totally irrelevant. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:26pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:15pm:
Well, that's their problem. People are free to wear whatever they like. I'm sure there are plenty of people who object to your AC/DC t-shirt and flanno too. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:32pm Lobo wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:25pm:
Oh please try to keep up. I wed about wut Mr Ali said in da newz-pay-pa and I said I a-gwee wif him on dis top-ic. I stand by my comments to belittle anyone who believe mindless medieval gobshyte fairy tales like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvxiQbQ37I |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:26pm:
Are they "threatened" by it too? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:26pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:41pm
666
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Dsmithy70 on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:43pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:15pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:52pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:32pm:
Why do you find it so necessary to put sh!t on Waleed's religion and the way his wife is dressed, rather than Waleed's comments about the NBN, Abbott and Turnbull? After all, isn't that what the opening post is all about? I think you are the one who is having trouble keeping up. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:54pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
The older brothers of the whackers here today used to put sh!t on these ladies, as well. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:07pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:24pm Lobo wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
I agree with what he says about the NBN, lots of people say the same thing. I pretty much only watch ABC,SBS and listen to ABC radio. Everyone bags the Libs NBN and I agree. I'm being objective about Mr Ali as it seems most of the regressive left believe every single one of his utterances are pearls of divine unquestionable wisdom. Yes, I agree he's a smart bloke, I just wish he was smart enough to free himself from his regressive medieval mind enslaving cult. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:24pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:33pm:
Sorry, Homo, do you mean testicles? Can I ask - why the fake Italian accent, dear? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:25pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Miam miam. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Aussie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:27pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:24pm:
Bugger......I thought it was French! |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:29pm Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:27pm:
It most certainly is French, Aussie. Asking about a couple of a balls a iz a rather Itai, no? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Aussie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:36pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:29pm:
Ah! |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:40pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 3:43pm:
You might have a point if I was wrong, but I'm not. How many threads have you commented on about Abbott and mentioned his religion? Waleed gets one thread, and all you knob jobs can do is go on about is his religion. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:42pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:18pm:
Are you Bigol? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:45pm ... wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:37pm:
some men feel threatened by intelligent women?\ do we ban intelligent women too? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:48pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
No I'm Gordy. Are you turning into Aussie thinking I'm somebody else? And I actually had a pivotal role in getting Abbott bumped. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:49pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:48pm:
then why are you claiming I'm referring to you, when my comment was clearly in response to bigols comment? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:50pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
what are you talking about? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by cods on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:50pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
at least we can see their faces I think thats what its mostly about... not being able to tell what a person is thinking....the face is the story to the soul..its hard to hide your feelings. completely..... and a covered face doesnt look good in a pic lets 'face' it.. ouch! |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:53pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Paint fumes again ;) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:56pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
didn't know you painted |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 6:02pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:56pm:
What's your opinion on Aqua enamel? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 6:07pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 6:02pm:
depends, if you're wanting enamel, it's sh1t ... if you want a high gloss acrylic, then it's great i don't think they should be allowed to call it aqua enamel. It's deceptive advertising |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Team Froggie on Apr 7th, 2016 at 6:48pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:40pm
Waleed is a "counterfeit" alpha male.
I have a good eye for these things and when you look at Waleed closely and watch his body langauge , he is very unsure of himself, very lacking in core confidence, not grounded at all. Waleed is a "flakey guy" he needs to spend some time in the company of real men . People like those beta males and mixed up feminists at the ABC and on "the project" must be doing his psyche some serious damage. Hopefully we, of the alpha right, can "re-school" him. I like a challenge. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:42pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Islamophobia. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Accomodationist |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:46pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Apologist. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:47pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
I bet if he walked in with a saddle on his head you'd be calling him the new messiah :D :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Leftwinger on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:49pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:07am:
I actually dont mind you after your contribution to country and giving us the liberties we enjoy now but if you want to read some non fiction ( lets get our stories straight 'christains ')about how to treat a female or non jebus believer look no further than the bs the bible pushes, you have some preconcieved notion the bible is different to koran , it isnt , its interpretation |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:01pm bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am:
What you are is a token Australian ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:03pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
"Where's aquas tv gig?", the whole internet shouts at once ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (bugger* did you hear that? :o :o :o) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:04pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
We’ll send him over to.Alan, dear. That could work. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:04pm
Ban him.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:06pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:48pm:
What was it? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:06pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:01pm:
Bogie’s a token Nazi, Death. Herbie barely tolerates him. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:09pm
I blame Islam.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:10pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
The only people I've met in RL who say 'dear' excessively and out of context turned out to be pedophiles. If you feel any odd compulsions please self report to your nearest police station. This is a community service announcement |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:12pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:10pm:
If I may quote Lord Herbert here: "Dear O dear O dear". |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:13pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:24pm:
Leftys all think waleed is a whining front bottom trying to sell right wing steve price via lame comedy like a tryhard America that we obviously have become. His attack on the NBN is channel 10 trying to claw back some credibility after years of naked PURE nonsense suppoting rw planet accountant foregin investors. Call me out on that buddy: you can't because you're shite :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:15pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:06pm:
Being an esteemed Wentworth resident I often see Mal out and about. I passed him on my morning walk about a week before the day and shouted to him 'time for a tilt at the big job I reckon'. The rest is history. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:15pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:06pm:
Gotta love those token Nazis: all trying to hide behind each other but they can't find each other and when they do they can't stand each other :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:12pm:
Yes, but that’s in context, Greggery. Herbie says that about the usual subjects, those hideous tinted races and their heinous apologists. Gordy’s fine with that - not that he’s a racist or anything. Gordy hates the tinted races and their traitorous supporters equally. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
ahhh ... so that's why he challenged when he did. I was wondering what he was waiting for ... it turns out he was waiting for your permission all along :D :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
They can’t even agree on a strategy to float a referendum, change the constitution.and ban Islam. Parliamentary democracy - how ridiculous is that? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:29pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:23pm:
I wouldn't say it was about permission, more about giving him the confidence that if even random Wentworth residents are encouraging him it must be time |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:32pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:29pm:
maybe ... if you ignore the fact that people had been telling him to challenge for eons |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:33pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
Come on, I even uploaded a colour chart matching tints I've had intercourse with. How many times do I need to say I don't judge by the colour of the container. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:34pm John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
Well why can I say. I was the straw that stirred the drink |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:39pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:33pm:
Oh, I know. You’ve inseminated mulattos, half-castes, quadoroons, the lot. You’re not racist, Gordy. Some of your biggest bitches were coloured containers. Any Muslims? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:43pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
An atheist Persian and an Indonesian. I nearly married the Persian container, imagine that |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:46pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
I had to Google mulattos. Did they teach you that in the KKK? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:49pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:57pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
I’m not racist, Gordy. Some of my best friends are crackers. You? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:00pm Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Sao? I prefer biscuits, gollywogs are nice. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:06pm
You did say you inseminated containers of something, dear.
Saos.with Vegemite, was it? Ladies, bring a plate. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by innocentbystander. on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:33pm
Soooo, have we worked out who walleyed thinks he is yet?
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:36pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:45am:
He doesn't make her wear it at all. She has been very vocal about her choice to wear the hijab. It is her interpretation of her religion. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:44pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
Gordly wouldn't lie, would he? I mean, he wouldn't make things up about people in order to justify his Islamophobia? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Hard to tell whether it's Islamophobia or sexism. Like, does he just assume women do what they're told without having any conscious input into their actions? Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:50pm innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:33pm:
Yeah .. he thinks he's Waleed Aly. Can you imagine that? Just crazy! |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:54pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Well spotted. I concur. He's a complex character, that Gordy. He seems to dislike anyone who isn't a white, Australian, Christian male. He's certainly not alone in this forum, that's for sure. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:54pm:
You conveniently forgot about the German girl whose mouth I spat |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:28pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Yeah.. ![]() |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:31pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
I think you might have been drunk, and it was in fact an Australian man doing a Marlene Dietrich impersonation. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:32pm
Most women in AUstrali that cover themselves do so of their own free will.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:34pm
Straight from her own mouth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4y2kFBnnH4 |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:45pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:34pm:
So it's true: Gordy lied. He actually does make things up about other people in order to justify his Islamophobia. That's a little sad. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by The Grappler on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:54pm
Who cares what Waleed Ali thinks he is? Not a zit on the nose of the Universe to me.....
Does he have any views of substance to offer.. or is he just another media hack? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:55pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:32pm:
Yeah good for them. But in many Islamic countries it's not optional and the more conservative and observant the country the less optional and more oppressive the garment becomes. Mrs Ali is very lucky to have freedoms her muslim sistas don't Mrs Ali has a choice |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:57pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
Ah. You admit you lied. That's admirable. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:58pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
This is true. What's your point exactly? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:02pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
Any reason you refer to her as Mrs. Ali? She has a name. Susan Carland. Her own name. I would say it is repressive of you to refer to her only as "Mrs. Ali", as though her identity is bestowed on her by her husband. It's the same sickness, GOrdy, that had you stating that she wears the Hijab because she is told to. Women are more than that Gordy. You have little right speaking about the sovereignty of women if you can't even get that right. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:06pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:58pm:
Point. She has freedom of choice to wear a muslim garment of oppression ONLY because she's in a secular country. Her husband may not demand it but his religion does. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:07pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:06pm:
No. It doesn;t. Plenty of Muslim countries do not enforce head coverings. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:07pm
And it;s not a garment of oppression if it is freely worn.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:09pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Nope. You don't really know much about Islam, do you? Apart from what the "news" tells you to be frightened of, that is. Read the Koran, then come back with your Islamophobia. Until then, you're going to be treated like the ignorant fool you are. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:10pm mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
As I said...the more conservative and islamic the country the less optional |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:09pm:
What do women wear in Saudi Arabia? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:14pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11pm:
You've been exposed as a liar. You've displayed your astounding ignorance. Changing the subject isn't going to make things any better for you. Sorry. If you want to debate a subject, you need to do two things: 1) learn something about the subject 2) don't lie Get back to me when you've achieved at least on of these goals. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:14pm:
Please tell me how Saudi Arabia is un-islamic in 100 words or less. What do women wear in Saudi Arabia? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:17pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11pm:
What do men wear in Saudi Arabia? Are they free to go around in a pair of stubbies and a wife beater? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by The Grappler on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:17pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:11pm:
Whatever the powers that be slap them with...... |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:25pm GordyL wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:16pm:
Begging will get you nowhere. I don't tolerate liars. And, you've been exposed as a liar. You've also displayed your astounding ignorance. Changing the subject is still not going to make things any better for you. Sorry. If you want to debate a subject with me, you need to do two things: 1) learn something about the subject 2) don't lie Get back to me when you've achieved at least on of these goals. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:29pm
DENIED.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by James on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:13am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:39am:
Yep the token Muslim for the media. You just have to roll your eyes at the silly fellow. A few days in a full blown muslim country his wife would be told to cover up or charged and his mouth would get him bashed, locked up or killed. I find it funny how he is always quiet proud of himself and his silly uninformed rants. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:19am mothra wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:07pm:
Do you wear one Mothra? Can you speak for others, not of your own culture. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:42am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:19am:
I have listened to what they have to say for themselves, Setanta. I base my comments upon what the women themselves say. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:43am Sir James wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:13am:
He is an Australian Muslim. He is free ... and his wife is free, He's not a token anything. He is where he is because of hard work and extraordinary talent. Why is the fact that he is a Muslim even relevant? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:09am
Why I love wearing hijab
Mainstream media is fixated by the idea of the hijab as a symbol of oppression, but for me it opened up a gateway to freedom. As more young women in the Western world self-identify as feminists and the dialogue on women’s social issues continues to grow, I can’t help but notice that Muslim women are repeatedly and deliberately excluded from the conversation. It seems that Western feminists are so used to seeing Muslim women as victims of internalised misogyny that our input is automatically deemed void of any real value. The hijab is a constant fixation across mainstream media, something largely seen as the ultimate symbol of patriarchal oppression. Most people seem to form their opinion of the hijab through articles written by political analysts that seem to veer more towards cultural shaming rather than balanced reporting. Rarely does anyone seem to actually speak to any women who wear it. This is incredibly frustrating to many Muslim women, including myself, who not only feel committed to upholding women’s rights, but also see our hijab as a means to liberate ourselves from some of the hyper-sexualisation and degradation that women are exposed to across the world. It is far too simplistic to make generalisations about nearly a billion Muslim women all being submissive victims of manipulation at the hands of men. The reality is that the highest demographic of Muslim converts today are young, educated women. Perhaps it is time to acknowledge at the very least that Islam and indeed the hijab may have something to offer women. I can’t speak for all Muslim women, only for myself, in reference to my own spiritual journey and how I went from being a typically vain teenage girl craving all the wrong types of attention, to a hijab-wearing, practicing Muslim woman. I grew up in a fairly relaxed Muslim household, in a pretty much all-white suburb of North London. Like a lot of diaspora kids I was somewhat culturally confused, as well as totally disengaged from Islam, which I generally associated with stifling restrictions and rules. And so in my early teenage years I began to take great pleasure in rebelling against my cultural upbringing in any way I could. I partied a lot and fell into long periods of reckless highs and consuming, depressive lows. By the age of 16 I began to mature into somebody considered attractive by mainstream beauty standards, and I noticed that I was getting a lot more male attention. To be considered attractive was flattering, but more than that, it made me feel accepted and valued. Like a lot of young women, I felt that as long as I was considered attractive, it would somehow disguise how insecure and low I felt most of the time, and it gave me a sense of purpose. So the dresses got shorter, the hair extensions got longer and the makeup got heavier. And when I say heavy, I mean I was pretty much ready to audition for RuPaul's Drag Race at this point. My vanity routine became utterly time consuming and exhausting. It would take me about two days of waxing, shaving and tanning to prepare for a night out. Only to spend the whole evening sucking in my belly in a tight and unforgiving dress. It only heightened my insecurities, and ultimately just really didn’t seem worth the cheap attention I was getting from some guy in Voi jeans with too much hair gel. My journey from this point to becoming a practicing Muslim was a slow and gradual one. I grew out of things like going out all the time and being around destructive people. However one of the major benefits for me was that for the first time, I began to stop viewing myself through the male gaze and through the love of a genderless divine power who values both men and women for their good deeds alone. That was a beautiful concept to me. And so I eventually started to become repulsed by the same attention I once found flattering. I became acutely aware of situations in which I was being sexualised without my consent, and of men who had no interest in me other than a physical one. I felt angered by things like the every day use of the naked female body as a decorative object, that was, for example, used to sell a car in an advert. Something that men simply were not subjected to. Only a woman can understand what it feels like to walk down the street and experience the piercing stares of men as they undress you with their eyes. I couldn’t believe how as a young girl I had normalised and internalised things that now made me feel so disgusted. If I just ignored these things, who would really benefit from that? Deep down I would still be uncomfortable, and the men would still hold all the power. At some point, and I can’t quite remember when, I decided that enough was enough. I recognised how unbelievably damaging the constant degradation and exploitation of women was, and no longer wanted to allow random men to enjoy my physicality in any way. I wanted to be in total control of who can see me and who can’t. What they can see, and what they can’t. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:09am
By practicing hijab and covering some of the most traditionally attractive parts of a woman, the hair and body, I feel so much more in control. I no longer feel like an object ready for public consumption. While I still take pride in my appearance and will always love my makeup and dressing up from time to time, I feel that I can remove some of my sexuality from the public sphere which forces men to value me simply for my character. Truth be told, it can be daunting at times to be valued only for one’s character. Sometimes, on a bad day, I might worry that I don’t have enough to offer the world without being perceived as a "hot girl" too. But I have never felt more free.
http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/26263/1/why-i-love-wearing-hijab |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:15am |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:21am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:42am:
To be pedantic and beyond reproach, perhaps say "Islamic women say they do not consider it a..." Hope you get where I am coming from. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:23am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:15am: Nudity never hurt anyone. :-? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:29am
From a feminist perspective, an interesting point to make is why women started wearing coverings ... and why women started wearing less.
In the Arab world, prior to Mohammed, women were expected to wear not very much at all. In the Christian world, women were expected to cover from head to toe. Both expectations were placed upon women by men. Men in ownership of women. I'm not speaking to the oppressive regimes that force women to cover up. I find them abhorrent. Despite all of you Islamophobes beating your chests, i'll bet the farm i know more about than you do ... and have done more to combat it productively than any of you. But women are acting to fulfill their own wishes. Those of the oppressive Christian ethos are baring more and more, and calling it empowerment. I personally disagree, but what does that matter? Those of the Arab world are covering up, and calling it empowerment. I personally disagree, but what does that matter? Let women choose. And keep your grubby minds off of why they make those choices. Listen to us. I listen to what women say. I talk to women. I am a woman. Women in free countries report, largely, that it is their choice to cover up. Many do it against the wishes of their husbands and families. Is this not female empowerment? We have men proclaiming they champion women's rights in this thread that refer to Susan Carland, a notable academic and public commentator in her own right as "Mrs. Ali"... and see nothing wrong with this. They accuse her of not having her own opinions and claim she is acting in accordance with her husband's wishes. She didn't even take his name when they married. Yet she is referred to as Mrs. Ali by a man condemning her choice of attire because he doesn't approve. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:31am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:23am:
It hurt Arabian women for centuries. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:34am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:31am:
How? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:35am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:34am:
They were forced,, by men, to wear not very much at all. Mohammed changes all that. Read my looooong post. It's all in there. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:38am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:35am:
So as I suspected, nudity did them no harm, other people did. Possibly making them partake of cultural practices by force. The real argument, not nudity. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:42am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:38am:
What impact does nudity, or more importantly, provocative clothing have on men Setanta? Particularly men who see women as property? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:42am
And you are conveniently overlooking the point that it was forced.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:47am
And don't get me wrong. I like to swim topless.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:47am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:42am:
Well I can't answer that for the obvious reason, I don't see women as property. I can answer what impact nudity has on a perfectly(I hope) normal male born in Au. Interested? Not much of a deal at all, certainly wouldn't shout at them, let alone beat them to death/ |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:49am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:47am:
Way to go! ;) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:51am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:47am:
I have found when swimming topless i get more stare-downs from women than men. But i argue that covering my breast with brightly coloured material does more to attract attention to them than not wearing anything at all. Nudity is, i find, less erotic than barely there clothing. Not that i'm nude. I wear shorts. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:52am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:49am:
Why shouldn't the girls get some sun? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:53am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:52am:
Too true! A bit of nudity never hurt anyone. ;) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:54am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:53am:
Not if it isn't forced. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:56am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:54am:
Your picture doesn't make that distinction. :-? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:00am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:56am:
It was forced on Arabian women, many years ago. Modest coverings combated it. Much the same as Western women have swung away from tight controls over attire. All in the name of freedom, innit? From a feminist perspective, it is all about choice. Choice. And there are some days i don't feel like 'doing' my hair. I wear a scarfe. Because i choose to. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:05am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:00am:
Do you mean was or still is? edit: 3am, 'nite Jonboy. Catch you tomorrow if the thread doesn't implode. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:05am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:05am:
Was. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:11am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:05am:
So it doesn't happen any more? So enlightened, posts link to that poor woman being beaten to death by her peers. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:11am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:11am:
Expand? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Setanta on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:13am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:11am:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1459918493 |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:21am Setanta wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:13am:
Didn't you read my loooooong post? I spoke of repressive regimes. I'm not talking about repressive regimes that "force" women to wear, or not wear, anything at all. I'm talking about the secular west. The Taliban are evil. They repress women and murder women. Kabul before the Taliban: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/webfm_send/135 |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by mothra on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:25am
I'm interested as to why you would bring this atrocity into a discussion about a woman's right to waer whatever she chooses?
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:19am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:09am:
I'd just like to address this part which I feel is the most important part of the post. This is obviously an issue in the heavily patriarchal societies. Just have a read of travel blogs of women traveling not only in Muslim countries but India and the unwanted and constant sexual attention is always an issue. We also need to examine the sexual harassment which has occurred in Europe when Muslim men are instantly transplanted into societies where the way women dress has not been an issue for a very very long time. I'm not about to say there is no sexual harassment in modern secular societies but it's becoming more and more frowned upon and less of an issue. Maybe my view of the world is distorted as I spend a lot of time in Bondi where the women are strong, empowered, successful and wear what ever the flap they want. It's just not relevant. Muslim women in western secular countries can chose to wear or not wear head coverings but that choice is redundant because they only have that choice because they live in a modern secular society which has nothing in common with the places where head coverings are NOT an option. All the debate on women having the choice to wear or not wear head coverings is actually misdirecting where the TRUE energy should be expended, which is the way men in heavily patriarchal societies treat women. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:29am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:43am:
To those suffering from Islamophobia, it's always relevant. The rest of us sane folk, though, understand that it's completely irrelevant. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:33am mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:15am: as per usual Mothra is talking a good deal of drivel and really does not understand masculine energy and feminine energy. The dynamic , as i would read it , is this. Waleed is a people pleasing , beta male. This is "low status " to a woman and she will not be attracted to him sexually. Women (especially intelligent women) and Waleeds wife seems an achiever, are only attracted to the alpha male. This guy is very confident, a stud, takes control of his woman , dominates his woman (in a way she enjoys). Smart women like to "let go" They have been grinding it out all day at work and , in the new feminist world, they can detect , at a subliminal level , that they are losing touch with the "divine feminine". A high achieving woman , likes nothing more than a super confident guy to just "dominiate" her in the bedroom. She likes nothing less then a wimp who wont "man up" submission is something she enjoys, at least during the first half of the sexual encounter. By wearing the Hijab, she is communicating to Waleed, at least in the sub communication. Take me, be a MAN, i want you to penetrate me , the way you penetrate the world. i want to feel my girly emotions in the safety of the super confident, super dominant alpha male. I'm sick of your do-gooder, hand wringing beta male persona. Do me properly or i will find a stud who will. Why do you think so many high powered women end up in an affair with some assh*le bar tender or limo driver. because he wasnt a gawd dammed lefty beta male ;) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 8th, 2016 at 12:04pm mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:51am:
Can you tell me when you're planning on doing this next so I can test your findings. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
how can you say that without yet knowing if it's worth the petrol? Before I go to that effort I want to know what size the puppies are, mothra? :D :D :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 12:59pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:29am:
Are you sure? You don't think Monash University would have considered his religion before they gave him tenure? You don't think SBS, the SMH and Channel 10 would have considered his religion before employing him? You don't think the Walkley panel would have considered his religion before making him columnist of the year? Oh, Greggery, you're so naive. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:00pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:29am:
Yes, in the same way as weather girls' beauty is irrelevant. What really got them there is their meteorological knowledge. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:01pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:33am:
That's right, dear. He's clearly a poof. His wife just wants him to put her in her place. Is a bit of biffo too much to ask here? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:20pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:01pm:
what i'm saying is a lot of women enjoy being submissive. they miss being dominated. a love bite involving a bite to a womans neck during love making , could be seen as an "assault". i would imagine it would qaulify as such if it leaves bruising. How many women enjoy being assaulted in this way. theres the group think and then theres reality. The teenage girls going over to be "wifed up" by islamic state fighters?? still want to argue that a lot of women dont crave an alpha male to take control, so they can just "let go" and "surrender" it must be awful for a woman to make love to a hand wringing , neurotic, leftie who feels women should be put on a pedestal. No wonder sales of viagra have made it the worlds most profitable drug ;) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:25pm
How does your horse theory stack against claims by dominatrix's worldwide (at least in every documentary I've ever seen where the topic has come up) that the majority of their clients are business leaders, or as you would call them alpha males?
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:47pm
You're having a few too many wet dreams there scoot.
Homo sapiens is a bit distant from Equus to draw these analogies. And he's no more distant in his/her genetic makeup than the propensity for individual difference. Still it's not unpleasant to muse on with a glass of wine in your hand and a good-looking lady somewhere nearby. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by innocentbystander. on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:51pm
We need to face facts here, Walleyed is closet ISIS ... like all muslims.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:04pm innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
Indeed. Waleed is a hundred times smarter than any rightard, and that kills you guys. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by innocentbystander. on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:04pm:
Speaking of closet ISIS ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:25pm:
simple. business leaders and high achieving women have to take on lots of responsibility at work. they have to be a bit aggressive. to "balance themselves" they just want someone else to "take charge" Mrs Waleed, by dressing in a submissive way , is telling waleed, to take charge. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:19pm innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
You can come out if you wish. We're all friends here. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm innocentbystander. wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
i think all "beta" males have an admiration for the "alpha" look how all those beta scrub freaks , who live in their mums basements play violent video games all day, dreaming that they were some sort of "action" man |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by GordyL on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:43pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm:
Or telling him 'please don't drag me under a car, throw rocks at my head then set my corpse alight for enraging your skydaddi' ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:06pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:25pm:
How does your horse theory stack up against Waleed Aly's achievements, Aquascoot? Tenured lecturer, Walkley-award winning columnist, radio host, live musician, host of a high-rating prime-time TV show? Do you think it's the Viagra? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:14pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
simple Tenured lecturer to lefties stuck in leftie group think. Award winning columnist given award by fellow beta males. Radio host on the ABC, where he is amongst fellow scrubs High rating TV show that only appeals to sarah hansen young and fellow lefties teen do-gooders. He is , sort of, the king of the beta males. Like all us alpha stallions are in one paddock, getting down to business and all the geldings are in another paddock, being all insecure and anxious and fearful and Waleed is their spokesman. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Svengali on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:20pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
More rear end horse sense from Aquascoot? Most if not all Australian houses don't have basements you dolt. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:24pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:26pm Quote:
That's right, dear. The alphas are listening to Breakfast with Alan, learning about carbon taxes and terrorism and youth crime and A1 Burglar Alarms - for all your security needs. And Alan is their spokesman. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 4:16pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
not so sure about Alan. He seems a bit of a validation hunter to me. Wants the "looove" of the audience because he isnt a super confident self actualised guy. If you want to talk Alpha, you might talk maybe Putin or Murdoch or Trump. an alpha just emits "pure alpha energy" he says and does whatever he wants. He doesnt really care about "pumping his state" by searching for the "approval of strangers" Why would he?? He knows that no one can ever give him anything of real value by their approval. he is his own man, on mission, sort of oblivious to the "chattering classes" They dont even register. Now Alan would have some pretty strong opinions on Waleed...waleed would be pushing alans hot buttons. This is very beta of Alan. If you showed Waleeds performances to Putin or Murdoch or Trump, they would probably have a wry smile or would turn it off because they were bored or Waleed wouldnt even register in their "ecosystem" That is the frame the alpha should be coming from. He knows he's the "shi*t"and wannabees are of no significance |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by aquascoot on Apr 8th, 2016 at 4:17pm
of the australian commentators i would say latham is an alpha ;)
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 5:05pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 4:16pm:
You mean alphas are gangstas that live by threats of violence? :o :o I mean: you mean alphas are the perfect recruit for standing armies that take orders from older brass that expect total compliance in exchange for ,... um,... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,... a brother hood of lost but nevertheless apparently 'cool' stoney faced murderous intent sluts fall all over until they become hags, perhaps!??! IT'S ALL IN THE NATURAL ORDER OF THE HORSE OF COURSE ::) ::) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:41pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
He spouts the opinions of the trendy cafe-latte set, in addition to having the gift of the gab. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:51pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm:
according to you an alpha male never shows weakness ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:54pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
what are those opinions Misty? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:55pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
Have you ever disagreed with him? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:57pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
I don't watch him now what are those opinions? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:01pm
Has he ever suffered sanction for espousing his opinions?
I've seen nothing but praise from mainstream media, as evinced by his nomination for a gold logie. This tells me he dorsnt attack anything but safe targets. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:05pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
He certainly has the gift of the gab, Mistie. Can you think of any other broadcaster-columnist-lecturers with this gift? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:08pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:01pm:
or maybe it tells you that he uses fact rather than just blathering out what sounds good when giving an opinion? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:08pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:51pm:
..isn't he talking about mrs waleed or is he being deliberately vague? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:10pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:01pm:
The audience thinks he is a nasally annoying dickhead! If that aint sanction or not, you be the judge! ..he sounds like my brother getting on dads front bottom******** !!! |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:12pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:05pm:
He would have honed his craft while lecturing. It should also be added that, being a trendy lefty lecturer in a university gives you almost unlimited connections other trendy lefties. Hence, why he is where he is today. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:14pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
No. What I said. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:15pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
It's quite obvious I'm the only loser who watches him. The opinions he espouse are one of a nice person sucking younger brother whingeing about his lack of daddykin-like status: ...or some freaking shite :o :o :o :o :o :o Yeh, go channel 10 ::) ::) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:17pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
No, No i don't believe it was either :o :o :o :o :o Why would you bother even saying that out loud? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:26pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
but you don't know what his opinions are .... you only know that you don't agree because he's a leftie . wait, isn't that what you're accusing him off? :D :D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:29pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
But i've told you, I dont disagree. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:34pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
You don't disagree with attacking soft targets? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:41pm
Of course i agree with his criticisms. They are soft previsely because any reasonable person cant disagree.
That reasonable person could take issue that he omits some factors, and can be superficial, but what he does say is on point. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:42pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
you didn't tell me what his opinions are so I assumed you didn't know ... what opinions of his do you agree with? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by John Smith on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:45pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
but didn't you earlier say he spouts opinions of the 'trendy cafe-latte set'? are you one of the trendy cafe latte set? |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:51pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
No no, Honky’s seen his publicity shot on the billboards. He says he looks like an.android. Honky’s perfectly entitled to disagree with him. Honky, you see, is objective. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:54pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:45pm:
I guess I must be. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:58pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
All the soft ones ;) ;) |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:59pm John Smith wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Honky’s forgotten. They all sound the same. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:02pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:59pm:
Things are either soft or hard: it's like talking to aqua but in a different code ;D |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:04pm ... wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:54pm:
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:05pm
That’s right, Death. Soft, hard or boring. Honky’s three criteria for everything.
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by BatteriesNotIncluded on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:06pm Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Oh, I miss the blue boring crack: ... why'd you have to say it? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Honky on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:20pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
When it comes to waleed aly, it's all soft. One does not survive in the mainstream media by attacking hard targets. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Karnal on Apr 8th, 2016 at 9:11pm
Which ones, Honky? The "stolen generation"? Aboriginal entitlement? Muslim extremism? Multiculturalism?
Yes, you’d never hear about them in the tabloids or talkback radIo. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Dustwun on Apr 8th, 2016 at 9:16pm
He strikes me as a light weight who easily impresses ahallow thinkers. I prefer the calm analytical types like George Megalogenis
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Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by Gabriel Knight on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:52pm
Gotta love bigots.
The only known genus of fauna whose mothers take nine months to drop a deuce. |
Title: Re: who does Waleed Aly think he is? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 9th, 2016 at 1:21pm Gabriel Knight wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:52pm:
Is that supposed to make sense to anyone? Anyone at all? |
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