So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%.

Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook.

WELL DONE!!!!

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull

Are they retiring?

Migrating?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook.

what exactly did they do?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%. Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. WELL DONE!!!!

So still .7% higher than when they took office.

I'll tell you what, I'll thank Mal & Tones when you thank Swan for keeping it in check during an ACTUAL global finanical crisis



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Australia Unemployment Rate  1978-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar Australia's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate unexpectedly fell to 5.7 percent in March of 2016 from 5.8 percent in February and below market consensus of 5.9 percent. It is the lowest jobless rate since September 2013, as the economy added 26,100 jobs and the number of unemployed decreased by 7,300. Unemployment Rate in Australia averaged 6.95 percent from 1978 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 11.10 percent in October of 1992 and a record low of 4 percent in February of 2008. Unemployment Rate in Australia is reported by the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

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Anthony John "Tony" Abbott is an Australian politician who was the 28th Prime Minister of Australia, from 18 September 2013

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John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:47pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. what exactly did they do?

They created the worst Government in the history of our nation.

51/49 is the only number to look at

Must be a lot of people giving up and retiring early... every old Grunt I know has done that....

The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%. Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. WELL DONE!!!! So still .7% higher than when they took office. I'll tell you what, I'll thank Mal & Tones when you thank Swan for keeping it in check during an ACTUAL global finanical crisis Quote: Australia Unemployment Rate  1978-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar Australia's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate unexpectedly fell to 5.7 percent in March of 2016 from 5.8 percent in February and below market consensus of 5.9 percent. It is the lowest jobless rate since September 2013, as the economy added 26,100 jobs and the number of unemployed decreased by 7,300. Unemployment Rate in Australia averaged 6.95 percent from 1978 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 11.10 percent in October of 1992 and a record low of 4 percent in February of 2008. Unemployment Rate in Australia is reported by the Australian Bureau of Statistics. [quote]Anthony John "Tony" Abbott is an Australian politician who was the 28th Prime Minister of Australia, from 18 September 2013

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The unemployment rate when Abbott took office was 5.8% AND RISING

during the GFC we still had the mining boom. Now that boom has turned into a bust and still the Libs can keep reducing unemployment.

give praise where it is due

you are all struggling with this, arent you?  how dare unemployment DROP under the libs - jst because it usually does.  Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does?


THIS is the kind of data that gains votes.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

you are all struggling with this, arent you?  how dare unemployment DROP under the libs - jst because it usually does.  Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does? THIS is the kind of data that gains votes.

51/49 baby  :)

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

you are all struggling with this, arent you?  how dare unemployment DROP under the libs - jst because it usually does.  Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does? THIS is the kind of data that gains votes.

what exactly did they do?

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does?

And yet it fell see below graph


Quote:

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Australia was worth 1454.68 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Australia represents 2.35 percent of the world economy. GDP in Australia averaged 369.19 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 1560.39 USD Billion in 2013 and a record low of 18.60 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in Australia is reported by the World Bank Group.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:20pm:

give praise where it is due

Tones & Joe, Mal & Scott have done an excellent job of letting the economy tick along all by itself.
Thanks for keeping your hands off.

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when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures......



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what exactly did they do?

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

they stopped the BOATS.. ::) ::) ::)

not a good move we know!

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures...... Quote: what exactly did they do? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm they stopped the BOATS.. ::) ::) ::) not a good move we know!

how does that help people find jobs?

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:34pm: when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures...... Quote: what exactly did they do? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm they stopped the BOATS.. ::) ::) ::) not a good move we know! how does that help people find jobs?

The nazi skinhead with swastika's on his face is now gainfully employed on Naru.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:37pm: cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:34pm: when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures...... Quote: what exactly did they do? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm they stopped the BOATS.. ::) ::) ::) not a good move we know! how does that help people find jobs? The nazi skinhead with swastika's on his face is now gainfully employed on Naru.

ahh ... I see. That makes sense now. Thanks

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

cods wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:34pm: when I read about whats happening in  Qld and now S.A.  I do wonder about these figures...... Quote: what exactly did they do? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm they stopped the BOATS.. ::) ::) ::) not a good move we know! how does that help people find jobs?

Cods paraphrasing Dumb dumb  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, jesus what a retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9E-bTgFN4

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm: Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does? And yet it fell see below graph Quote: The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Australia was worth 1454.68 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Australia represents 2.35 percent of the world economy. GDP in Australia averaged 369.19 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 1560.39 USD Billion in 2013 and a record low of 18.60 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in Australia is reported by the World Bank Group. longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:20pm: give praise where it is due Tones & Joe, Mal & Scott have done an excellent job of letting the economy tick along all by itself. Thanks for keeping your hands off.

are you the only person inthe country who is NOT aware that the mining sector has driven off a cliff?  As it has globally? Giiven that it was our major exporter, where is the surprise that that affected GDP?  And since you want to be hopelessly partisan, the collapse began in the last year of Gillard. After that collapse, GDP has continued to rise.

BTW... have a second think about the graph you showed. It shows a supposed DROP in GDP.    What do we call those events? RECESSIONS!!!!!  and yet... we have not had a recession or even gotten close.  Perhaps if you thought about the information you provide first you might realise when you got it wrong.

Its time wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan.

The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked.

Bam wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm: The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan. The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked.

how discriminatory of you.  Unemployment dropped - something labor couldnt manage

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

Bam wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:30pm: Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm: The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan. The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked. how discriminatory of you.  Unemployment dropped - something labor couldnt manage

And let's eliminate unemployment entirely by sacking one million full-time employees and creating two million part-time jobs. You would be ecstatic.

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm: you are all struggling with this, arent you?  how dare unemployment DROP under the libs - jst because it usually does.  Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does? THIS is the kind of data that gains votes. what exactly did they do?

Well, they (the Liberals) did pretty much the same as Labor, they just waited for the Baby Boomer Demographics to kick in.

That means the number of Australians aged 65+ will increase by some 85% from 3.1 million to 5.7 million between 2011 and 2031.
Which means approximately an extra 130,000 Per year (on average) will come into retirement age!

So, the increased number of Baby Boomer Retirees will make the Unemployment rate look better than it actually is, until the next Great Recession hits, THEN THE REAL PICTURE WILL QUICKLY BECOME APPARENT!

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 3:22pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:29pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:21pm: Why does GDP continue to rise under the libs - as it usually does? And yet it fell see below graph Quote: The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Australia was worth 1454.68 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Australia represents 2.35 percent of the world economy. GDP in Australia averaged 369.19 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 1560.39 USD Billion in 2013 and a record low of 18.60 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in Australia is reported by the World Bank Group. longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:20pm: give praise where it is due Tones & Joe, Mal & Scott have done an excellent job of letting the economy tick along all by itself. Thanks for keeping your hands off. are you the only person inthe country who is NOT aware that the mining sector has driven off a cliff?  As it has globally? Giiven that it was our major exporter, where is the surprise that that affected GDP?  And since you want to be hopelessly partisan, the collapse began in the last year of Gillard. After that collapse, GDP has continued to rise. BTW... have a second think about the graph you showed. It shows a supposed DROP in GDP.    What do we call those events? RECESSIONS!!!!!  and yet... we have not had a recession or even gotten close.  Perhaps if you thought about the information you provide first you might realise when you got it wrong.

No I am quite aware mining's ass has fallen out, however much like you refuse to acknowledge outside circumstances when anyone BUT the libs are in power, I thought I'd cover 1 eye for a day just to get your perspective.
Had Gillard been PM now, it would not be a factor in anyway shape or form.


longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 3:22pm:

BTW... have a second think about the graph you showed. It shows a supposed DROP in GDP.    What do we call those events? RECESSIONS!!!!!

It was not a commentary on the economy overall but YOUR blanket statement that it always rises under a Liberal government.
You'll also note that 2013 was our highest ever GDP, who do you thank for that, Gillard - Jan to Aug or Abbott - Oct to Dec?

Bam wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:41pm: Bam wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 3:30pm: Its time wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:07pm: The figures are more likely that everybody has just given up looking for work and are living off family members until a real government gets in , with an actual plan. The drop is entirely due to an increase in part-time unemployment in the survey period. The number of full-time jobs fell, as did the number of hours worked. how discriminatory of you.  Unemployment dropped - something labor couldnt manage And let's eliminate unemployment entirely by sacking one million full-time employees and creating two million part-time jobs. You would be ecstatic.

Year nine maths, innit?

Unemployment down, yay for the liberals.

What a total load of unmitigated clap trap.
Hiding unemployed through work for the dole, refusing the dole to people who have (in govco's eyes) too many liquid assets, etc etc.

Having been made redundant 10 months ago through my company going off shore, I can tell you that these "FACTS and STATS" are all doctored.

I am ineligible for the dole, because I have "Assets" that are considered above their "NEW" limits.
These new limits have affected the unemployed numbers, not the actual people who are unemployed.
I and many other Liquid Asset Rich people, are in fact UNEMPLOYED, we are looking for work, but because the work is not there we cannot find it.
We are, conveniently, not counted in these bull sh1t numbers because we are not claiming the dole.

What work there is, is part time, full time work is becoming scarcer and scarcer.
I look forward, should I score a job, at being paid at a much lower rate, simply because there is a glut of qualified people looking for work and because transitory work is all that is available.

These fabricated facts and manipulated stats are a slap in the face for working people and those desperately looking for work.
But there is one growth industry in Australia.
Government departments and sub departments are at an all time high.
Worthless bureaucrats manipulating data to fit an agenda, and trying so hard to maintain their worthless jobs.

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%. Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. WELL DONE!!!!

Is the analysis of this showed the same reason it dropped the last time you posted this (about a month ago)?

the analysis was that there were few people participating in job search due to lack of jobs. 

Or are we doing the lib thing - ignore any negatives associated with libs because "they don't exist, just like lib corruption"?

Ok I found a website analysing this.  I welcome but obviously won't happen for a lib supporter to refute the facts (but since they have no ability to do so, they will instead attack credibility instead):

The summary ABS Labour Force (seasonally adjusted) estimates for March 2016 are:
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=33338
    Employment increased 26,100 (0.2 per cent) with full-time employment decreasing by 18,800 and part-time employment increasing by 34,900.
    Unemployment decreased by 7,300 to 723,100.
    The official unemployment rate decreased by 0.1 percentage points to 5.7 per cent.
    The participation rate was unchanged at 64.9 per cent. This is well below its November 2010 peak (recent) of 65.8 per cent.
    Aggregate monthly hours worked decreased 17.5 million hours (-1.1 per cent).
    The quarterly ABS broad labour underutilisation estimates (the sum of unemployment and underemployment) for the February quarter were updated last month. Underemployment was at 8.4 per cent and total labour underutilisation rate was at 14.2 per cent. There were 1,051.2 thousand persons underemployed and a total of 1.839.3 thousand workers either unemployed or underemployed. The next quarterly release will be in the June 2016 publication.

Total (net) employment in March 2016 is estimated to have increased by 26,100 jobs. Full-time employment decreased 8,800, while part-time employment increased by 34,900.

This follows the total (net) employment change in February 2016 of 300 jobs. Prior to that there were two second consecutive month of negative growth.

The ABS said that:

    Trend employment growth in Australia eased … In March 2016, the annual trend employment growth rate was 2.2 per cent, down from 2.6 per cent in December 2015 . That’s an increase of around 250,000 persons employed, compared with 300,000 persons.
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Well, any 'good news' is better than none - especially for a lib who is waiting for any straws to grasp.

So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink?

OK....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 7:29pm:

So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK....

In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week.

Good, hey?

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey?

Guys... I'll repeat:
"Well, any 'good news' is better than none - especially for a lib who is waiting for any straws to grasp."

For all the nitpicking about it, remember the same scrutiny should apply when lab gets back into government.  So do expect snide remarks back from lib supporters next time.

stunspore wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 7:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Guys... I'll repeat: "Well, any 'good news' is better than none - especially for a lib who is waiting for any straws to grasp." For all the nitpicking about it, remember the same scrutiny should apply when lab gets back into government.  So do expect snide remarks back from lib supporters next time.

Nothing snide about pointing out facts, is there?

Who ever said I wouldn't be subjecting Bill and The Crew to the hot irons on the feet if and when they take control of government/sit in the electric chair?  The moment they stuff up I'll be on their ass like a hungry cheetah on a fat antelope...

I oppose affirmative action - that's a good start... the moment they start to impose 50% quotas I will be up in arms... the moment they continue privatisation, the moment they come out with some ludicrous claim of some mythical 'Black Hole Of Budget', with countless billions unaccounted for by the Libs, the moment they set up some farcical 'commission of audit' with jobs for the girls and a few cronies, the moment they fail to change back some filth put in place by their predecessors .... I'll be on their ass...

I do find non-libs generally more rational or at least more reasonable.  Good on you guys for being critical no matter the party, unlike some diehard lib supporter.

stunspore wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 10:56pm:

I do find non-libs generally more rational or at least more reasonable.  Good on you guys for being critical no matter the party, unlike some diehard lib supporter.

We would expect a bi-partisan approach to corruption from the righties , they still only seem interested in the ABCC .

Unemployment is down because wages growth is well down. Simple as that.

crocodile wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

Unemployment is down because wages growth is well down. Simple as that.

;)

I see Maria is still pulling wools over her eyes.  How typical.

I see no other lib supporter have response to the lowering of unemployment figures given other data.

Well I guess the lib party will have to keep working harder than this and actually provide positive news.

I wonder just how much the new tightened requirements for getting the dole has contributed to this

I wonder why Govco don't actually use the real figures of people looking for work and not just those drawing the dole?

I wonder what the results would be if "Full time work" was a prerequisite for being employed, not just a couple of hours a week?

Guess Ill never know, because Govco cant tell the truth, they have to lie and fiddle to make the facts reflect what they want us to believe.

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 7:38pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey?

Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift.

ian wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift.

I'm sure you are probably correct.  However, the political terminology/rhetoric is that you have part time work if  you work at least one hour a week.

Aussie wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:43pm:

ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift. I'm sure you are probably correct.  However, the political terminology/rhetoric is that you have part time work if  you work at least one hour a week.

Statistically irrelevant.

ian wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm: ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift. I'm sure you are probably correct.  However, the political terminology/rhetoric is that you have part time work if  you work at least one hour a week. Statistically irrelevant.

I agree.  I should be.  But.....it is not.

Aussie wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:46pm:

ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm: ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift. I'm sure you are probably correct.  However, the political terminology/rhetoric is that you have part time work if  you work at least one hour a week. Statistically irrelevant. I agree.  I should be.  But.....it is not.

*sigh* Yes, it is. How cant his be so hard to understand. Are you related to Mothra? Even if someone works a shift of 1 hour it cannot be declared and therefore can not be included in statistics.

ian wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:46pm: ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm: ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift. I'm sure you are probably correct.  However, the political terminology/rhetoric is that you have part time work if  you work at least one hour a week. Statistically irrelevant. I agree.  I should be.  But.....it is not. *sigh* Yes, it is. How cant his be so hard to understand. Are you related to Mothra? Even if someone works a shift of 1 hour it cannot be declared and therefore can not be included in statistics.

Hold the bus there Ian.  If I am on welfare, am I not obliged to let Centrelink know if I have earned any money working......even for just an hour a week?

Aussie wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:50pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:46pm: ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:45pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:43pm: ian wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:40pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Impossible. No award allows for less than a 3 hour shift. I'm sure you are probably correct.  However, the political terminology/rhetoric is that you have part time work if  you work at least one hour a week. Statistically irrelevant. I agree.  I should be.  But.....it is not. *sigh* Yes, it is. How cant his be so hard to understand. Are you related to Mothra? Even if someone works a shift of 1 hour it cannot be declared and therefore can not be included in statistics. Hold the bus there Ian.  If I am on welfare, am I not obliged to let Centrelink know if I have earned any money working......even for just an hour a week?

So what difference is that going to make, when they know what is in your bank a/c's and what is goin in & out?

..replaced by an increasing number of 'employed' who could be defined as working one hour a week... I note that full-time employment dropped but part-time rose... is that what you want for yourself, longie?  A part-time casual on $2.50 an hour?

.. every day in Ozpol is a day on the farm... a warm walk in the sun.... every meal a banquet and every pay cheque a fortune.... I LOVE OZPOL..


.. and the chance to put the wood to inanities daily..... something that I do so very well...... 8-)

Aussie wrote on Apr 15^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

Hold the bus there Ian.  If I am on welfare, am I not obliged to let Centrelink know if I have earned any money working......even for just an hour a week?

Hold up there, Pilgrim... if you are on Social Security you can't be on Welfare....  welfare is going to a charity and getting a handout..... Social Security is a component of the overall tax system and since you pay taxes at every turn, is an Entitlement....

Get with the Team.....

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:47pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. what exactly did they do? They created the worst Government in the history of our nation.

No they ousted the worst Government in the history of our nation. FYI, it was the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd governments.

Simple (and subjective) statements again.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 1:35am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 8:56pm: Hold the bus there Ian.  If I am on welfare, am I not obliged to let Centrelink know if I have earned any money working......even for just an hour a week? Hold up there, Pilgrim... if you are on Social Security you can't be on Welfare....  welfare is going to a charity and getting a handout..... Social Security is a component of the overall tax system and since you pay taxes at every turn, is an Entitlement.... Get with the Team.....

Bit of pedantry there, wot?  Just replace welfare with whatever you reckon is the correct word.  The point remains the same.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 7:50am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:01pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:47pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. what exactly did they do? They created the worst Government in the history of our nation. the worst Government in the history of our nation.

Indeed.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%. Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. WELL DONE!!!! So still .7% higher than when they took office. I'll tell you what, I'll thank Mal & Tones when you thank Swan for keeping it in check during an ACTUAL global finanical crisis

LW has shown quite a bit of past form - in trying to sweep this factual ABS data under the carpet


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History will record three years of Abbott/Turnbull Government
delivering an almost 1% RISE in unemployment

LW is either dishonest in not acknowledging the unemployment/employment conditions have worsen or simply ignorant.

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

stunspore wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:44pm: Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:38pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 7:29pm: So more people are finding part-time work while full-time work continues to shrink? OK.... In a nut shell, yeas....with part time work counting as that if you do just one hour a week. Good, hey? Guys... I'll repeat: "Well, any 'good news' is better than none - especially for a lib who is waiting for any straws to grasp." For all the nitpicking about it, remember the same scrutiny should apply when lab gets back into government.  So do expect snide remarks back from lib supporters next time. Nothing snide about pointing out facts, is there?

Absolutely not.

Longy calls it throwing a tantrum.

By the way, where is Longy? He disappeared after Smithy's second post.

I wonder if Maria's about to pop her head in. We haven't seen her for a while.

Very_Vinnie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 3:53pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: So despite all the negatives of the lefties, unemployment has DROPPED once again to 5.7%. Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. WELL DONE!!!! So still .7% higher than when they took office. I'll tell you what, I'll thank Mal & Tones when you thank Swan for keeping it in check during an ACTUAL global finanical crisis LW has shown quite a bit of past form - in trying to sweep this factual ABS data under the carpet http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/RoyWilliamsSweepingItundertheRug2gif.gif History will record three years of Abbott/Turnbull Government delivering an almost 1% RISE in unemployment

See what I mean? More tantrums from the leftards.

No wonder the unemployment rate's soaring. What can you do with idiots who don't even have basic year 9 maths?

Unemployment down... AGAIN

This Liberal government is in its final death throes and they have not spent one single day of their miserable underperforming term with an unemployment rate lower than the day they came into office.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

Unemployment down... AGAIN This Liberal government is in its final death throes and they have not spent one single day of their miserable underperforming term with an unemployment rate lower than the day they came into office.

Might be a long list of what part of the economy hasn't improved.  How about listing parts that have?

stunspore wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:01pm: Unemployment down... AGAIN This Liberal government is in its final death throes and they have not spent one single day of their miserable underperforming term with an unemployment rate lower than the day they came into office. Might be a long list of what part of the economy hasn't improved.  How about listing parts that have?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50am: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 2:01pm: John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:47pm: longweekend58 wrote on Apr 14th, 2016 at 1:42pm: Time to thank Abbott and Turnbull for a lowering unemployment rate and rising GDP all in an environment of a poor global outlook. what exactly did they do? They created the worst Government in the history of our nation. the worst Government in the history of our nation. Indeed.

Yes the only Australian government that has had a study done showing that this is a fact based on their poor performance in all areas.

Whitlam remains the worst government in history by some distance.

You don't get sacked and then slaughtered at the ensuing election without reason.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

Whitman remains the worst government in history by some distance. You don't get sacked and then slaughtered at the ensuing election without reason.

Absolute rubbish.

HI ALL

I seem to recall some Governor General having something to do with that.

OH hold on it is happening again.
Different story same crap.

:-X

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

Whitlam remains the worst government in history by some distance. You don't get sacked and then slaughtered at the ensuing election without reason.

That is the relativism argument. Whitlam sure had some duds on the front bench and was naïve not to see what his opponents were planning. Even though he was dismissed and trumped at the ensuing election, the Fraser government turned out to be far worse no matter what metric one wishes to use.

Interesting the thread changing from one about employment to one about governments.

stunspore wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 7:46pm:

Interesting the thread changing from one about employment to one about governments.

After five pages that's normal around here. Anyway, the primary factor for the decline in unemployment has already been posted earlier in the thread with barely any notice.

Unemployment is slightly down simply because wages growth is near zero. In the end, just a symptom of declining productivity where lower costs of labour displaces capital. In case nobody has noticed, total factor productivity has been on the slippery slope for about 17 years now.

One day the penny will drop.

crocodile wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 8:51pm:

stunspore wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:46pm: Interesting the thread changing from one about employment to one about governments. After five pages that's normal around here. Anyway, the primary factor for the decline in unemployment has already been posted earlier in the thread with barely any notice. Unemployment is slightly down simply because wages growth is near zero. In the end, just a symptom of declining productivity where lower costs of labour displaces capital. In case nobody has noticed, total factor productivity has been on the slippery slope for about 17 years now. One day the penny will drop.

Maybe you're right about the cause of employment decline - but there are other causes as analysed by other people.