Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me.

So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed:


moses wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:39pm:

The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate,

discuss.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me. So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:39pm: The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate, discuss.

Why don't you want other people living in Arabia??

The difference? As FD said, these people are trying to take away the freedoms of white people everywhere.

How could it not be about race?

Dear Gandalf,
I read somewhere that the Palestinians have
exactly the same genetic markers as the Jews.

discuss.

The 'dirt' is beginning to roll in on the new mayor, and no doubt there'll be a lot more to come before London is rid of him.

link

Lord Herbert wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

The 'dirt' is beginning to roll in on the new mayor, and no doubt there'll be a lot more to come before London is rid of him. link

               ;D

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/68/27/7d/68277d91632d1ea148e2bc4529bd72f3.jpg

Racism exists in every culture but it's only noticed and frowned upon when you direct it towards members of society considered lower on the totem pole that your own. Directing it higher is usually considered comedy.
Making fun of Swedish or Scottish accents has been feeding comedians for years without controversy.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me. So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:39pm: The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate, discuss.

You can say what you want this is typical Muslim nonsense hence why people can't stand muslims.

Islam IS NOT A RACE. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU LIKE TO MAKE OUT IT SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE ONE. ITS A BLOODY RELIGION DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

Even then its more mythical nonsense that no sane person takes seriously anyway.

Seriously ::)


Racism today is the opium of the jealous moreons of society. A crutch used to stick it to people who are happier with their lives and are better off. Usually directed at white Caucasian people alluding to their membership of either Nazi Germany or the clan when all the time they are actually the ones carrying on like the Nazis and the Clan.

Storm wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 11:55am: Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me. So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:39pm: The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate, discuss. You can say what you want this is typical Muslim nonsense hence why people can't stand muslims.

I've never met anyone who says that they "can't stand Muslims".

Not a single person.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 11:55am: Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me. So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:39pm: The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate, discuss. You can say what you want this is typical Muslim nonsense hence why people can't stand muslims. I've never met anyone who says that they "can't stand Muslims". Not a single person.

A single person I've met never, says, "I can stand Muslims".

Never

peccarygreggery wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:44pm: Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 11:55am: Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me. So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:39pm: The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate, discuss. You can say what you want this is typical Muslim nonsense hence why people can't stand muslims. I've never met anyone who says that they "can't stand Muslims". Not a single person. A single person I've met never, says, "I can stand Muslims". Never

You should meet more than a single person, most say they can't stand muslims and they should piss off.

What is a racist comment?



.....what about this despicable post, as an example of racism ?


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521/11#11

Yadda wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 12:53am:

What is a racist comment? .....what about this despicable post, as an example of racism ? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521/11#11

That would be the inner struggle that Karnal refers to. 

Can't be armed struggle cos in Karnals  apologism 102 that would make Hamas not reeaallly Muslims.   ::)

Secret Wars wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 1:21am:

Yadda wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 12:53am: What is a racist comment? .....what about this despicable post, as an example of racism ? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1463262521/11#11 That would be the inner struggle that Karnal refers to.  Can't be armed struggle cos in Karnals  apologism 102...... that would make Hamas not reeaallly Muslims.   ::)

Secret Wars,

Exactly so.




i.e.
As you refer/allude to in your post;

Many moslems will publicly claim, that acts of political violence, carried out by moslems, in the name of ISLAM;

".....would make Hamas not reeaallly Muslims."



An argument which seems to point to the conclusion that;


Every moslem, is a moslem......

......right up until the nano-second, when a moslem mysteriously morphs into a homicidal maniac, and wants to slaughter every infidel that he can lay his holy hands upon!!



And then, comes the call from the peaceful moslems.

When in unison, all of the peaceful moslems will declare, AND INSIST;


"But he/they [the homocidal maniac] are not really moslems.

Coz, as everyone knows, ISLAM is about brining only peace to mankind."



And here is an example [posted here on OzPol] of the bit about;

".....ISLAM is about bringing only peace to mankind."

......confirmed, and reiterated, once more, by our very own gandalf;
Quote:
"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1462962395/49#49

You see,       .....gandalf, is a real moslem!




.




Yadda wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2016 at 3:12pm:

........I know that it can be a difficult concept for many to grasp,       .....but i am still promoting the proposition that,       .....a person who insists that he is a moslem,    ....is, a moslem.

.



A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.

And every moslem, is a moslem.

SO, WHAT IS GOING ON ?




Some moslems Many/most moslems will declare and insist, that true ISLAM promotes only peace.



But we have the occasion, when other moslems will choose to express their devotion to their deity, Allah, by morphing into a homicidal maniac !



QUESTION;
So what is REALLY going on, in the moslem camp ???



ANSWER;
'THIS' IS WHAT IS 'GOING ON', IN THE MOSLEM CAMP !!!!

AND 'THIS', IS ISLAM's TRUE FACE,      ...EXPOSED !

----------- >



IMAGE...
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/129.jpeg

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior January 18, 2012 Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong "...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance. When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/



.



" The Prophet said, "War is deceit." "
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.269

Whenever moslems engage in lying to 'disbelievers', and deceiving 'disbelievers',
....that, is the 'soft' component of the moslem Jihad [religious fighting against 'disbelievers'].



Isn't that correct, gandalf!    ;)



.



Taqiyya
“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”
google




Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit


How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war


Google,
smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

Storm wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

You should meet more than a single person, most say they can't stand muslims and they should piss off.

No, they don't actually.

Only about 25% of Australians have a negative attitude towards Muslims.

That isn't anywhere near "most".

Storm wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

Islam IS NOT A RACE

Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam ..

like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing

A good explanation here:

Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong.

:-/
greggerypeccary wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 10:53am:

John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:47am: Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing A good explanation here: Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong.

Above article was written by this guy (the guy on the right):

https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-05-01-at-00-16-36.png?w=663

Lisa Jones wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

:-/ greggerypeccary wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:53am: John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:47am: Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing A good explanation here: Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong. Above article was written by this guy (the guy on the right): https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-05-01-at-00-16-36.png?w=663

And ... ?

Lisa Jones wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

:-/ greggerypeccary wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:53am: John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:47am: Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing A good explanation here: Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong. Above article was written by this guy (the guy on the right): https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-05-01-at-00-16-36.png?w=663

Always a good idea to take note of WHO is behind ANY article posted anywhere in cyberspace  :)

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing

I don't fear them. I don't like them.

Secondly running around calling people wacists when Islam IS NOT a race is for nutjobs. Islam is still not a race.

You can call it what you want. Most simpletons would agree with you.

Its not wacist to hate murderers, terrorists, pedophiles and bludgers but according to you if you hate islam which is made up of those
we are wacist, bigots. So no its not semantics at all. So you are wrong and so is gandalf.

Try harder next time, then all those who disagree with you may be wacists. Pfft.

 

greggerypeccary wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 5:04pm: You should meet more than a single person, most say they can't stand muslims and they should piss off. No, they don't actually. Only about 25% of Australians have a negative attitude towards Muslims. That isn't anywhere near "most".

Incorrect

Lisa Jones wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 11:26am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 11:19am: :-/ greggerypeccary wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:53am: John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:47am: Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing A good explanation here: Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong. Above article was written by this guy (the guy on the right): https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-05-01-at-00-16-36.png?w=663 Always a good idea to take note of WHO is behind ANY article posted anywhere in cyberspace  :)

We always knew who without the image.  Here is the complete image.  Note the sign they are all holding.

https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_8000.jpg

Aussie wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 11:26am: Lisa Jones wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 11:19am: :-/ greggerypeccary wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:53am: John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2016 at 10:47am: Storm wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Islam IS NOT A RACE Semantics .... you have a fear of people who follow Islam .. like Gandalf said in the OP, call it prejudice or bigotry if you like, in the end it amounts to the same thing A good explanation here: Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong. Above article was written by this guy (the guy on the right): https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screen-shot-2015-05-01-at-00-16-36.png?w=663 Always a good idea to take note of WHO is behind ANY article posted anywhere in cyberspace  :) We always knew who without the image.  Here is the complete image.  Note the sign they are all holding. https://drcraigconsidine.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/img_8000.jpg

They're preaching love, Aussie. They can't possibly be Muselmen.

Mind you, they're all tinted. Thus, there can be no other solution:

Ban them.

Love in the name of Muhammad no less!

Quick, get FD on to them so he can mock them for contradicting the "scheming jew" meme. This just won't do - we must shut down this sinister attempt by muslims to promote a peaceful and loving Islam!

polite_gandalf wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

Love in the name of Muhammad no less! Quick, get FD on to them so he can mock them for contradicting the "scheming jew" meme. This just won't do - we must shut down this sinister attempt by muslims to promote a peaceful and loving Islam!

They must be silenced.

Kill them.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences.

Not only totally incorrect, but a mischievous misrepresentation of the word 'racist' and 'racism'.

Somewhere back there, only a few years ago, the lexicologists working out of Oxford decided to widen the goal-posts on the words 'racist' and 'racism' so they would also cover exotic cultures and religions - thus making it a 'taboo' and a breach of the Vilification Acts to voice honest appraisals and criticism of immigrant cultures and religions brought in from the 'Third World'.

The expanded definition was designed to further help stamp out freedom of speech where this might upset certain immigrant sensitivities of an inferiority complex nature.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

No, they don't actually. Only about 25% of Australians have a negative attitude towards Muslims.

"only" - ?

That would make it the third largest party in Australia, wouldn't it? A massive 25%.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 11:55am: Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. Not only totally incorrect, but a mischievous misrepresentation of the word 'racist' and 'racism'. Somewhere back there, only a few years ago, the lexicologists working out of Oxford decided to widen the goal-posts on the words 'racist' and 'racism' so they would also cover exotic cultures and religions - thus making it a 'taboo' and a breach of the Vilification Acts to voice honest appraisals and criticism of immigrant cultures and religions brought in from the 'Third World'. The expanded definition was designed to further help stamp out freedom of speech where this might upset certain immigrant sensitivities of an inferiority complex nature.

No, Herbie, the Australian legal definition of racial and religious vilification has not changed. The term was designed thus in response to the racial and religious policies of the Nazis, a political movement close to your own heart.

Arbeit macht frei, nein?

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 3:54pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 11:55am: Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. Not only totally incorrect, but a mischievous misrepresentation of the word 'racist' and 'racism'. Somewhere back there, only a few years ago, the lexicologists working out of Oxford decided to widen the goal-posts on the words 'racist' and 'racism' so they would also cover exotic cultures and religions - thus making it a 'taboo' and a breach of the Vilification Acts to voice honest appraisals and criticism of immigrant cultures and religions brought in from the 'Third World'. The expanded definition was designed to further help stamp out freedom of speech where this might upset certain immigrant sensitivities of an inferiority complex nature. No, Herbie, the Australian legal definition of racial and religious vilification has not changed. The term was designed thus in response to the racial and religious policies of the Nazis, a political movement close to your own heart. Arbeit macht frei, nein?

Actually muslims were in bed with the Nazi's and shared the same ideals so the Nazi's would be more close to your heart it seems.

Ashley wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 4:43pm: Lord Herbert wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 3:54pm: polite_gandalf wrote on May 15th, 2016 at 11:55am: Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. Not only totally incorrect, but a mischievous misrepresentation of the word 'racist' and 'racism'. Somewhere back there, only a few years ago, the lexicologists working out of Oxford decided to widen the goal-posts on the words 'racist' and 'racism' so they would also cover exotic cultures and religions - thus making it a 'taboo' and a breach of the Vilification Acts to voice honest appraisals and criticism of immigrant cultures and religions brought in from the 'Third World'. The expanded definition was designed to further help stamp out freedom of speech where this might upset certain immigrant sensitivities of an inferiority complex nature. No, Herbie, the Australian legal definition of racial and religious vilification has not changed. The term was designed thus in response to the racial and religious policies of the Nazis, a political movement close to your own heart. Arbeit macht frei, nein? Actually muslims were in bed with the Nazi's and shared the same ideals so the Nazi's would be more close to your heart it seems.

Actually, Matty, Indian, Javan and Malay Muslims fought on the side of the allies. The Turks were neutral. The Persians did whatever they could to isolate the Russians. They ended up in Mother's bosom.

I believe you're referring to those shifty Muslims in Casablanca. You know, the "usual suspects".

It is a jolly world, no?

No the world isn't jolly with muslims in it at all, all of them should be exterminated.


I was talking about muslims in bed with the Nazis as stated.

http://storage9.tunefiles.com/files/thumbs/2014/04/20/139802186146e8c-original-1.jpg

Lovely bunch those muslims in bed with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's eh gandy.

All of them should be exterminated?

How very Christian of you Ashley.

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:49pm:

All of them should be exterminated? How very Christian of you Ashley.

Yet here you are again trolling people. Why such bitterness gran ?

Yyou are calling for people to be exterminated and you're calling me bitter?

Priceless.

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:58pm:

Yyou are calling for people to be exterminated and you're calling me bitter? Priceless.

Too right, think about it, its PURE GOLD...

Dismissed

What are people's thoughts about this gem from moses:


moses wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:39pm:

The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate,

Racist? Not according to FD - its actually sexism.


freediver wrote on May 26^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

This is actually sexism. The fact that he specifies all Muslim men means he is not talking about race. If he said the Arab ones were, that would be racist.

FD, could you entertain the idea that your idea of "race" is not necessarily other people's? When people assault Sikhs, thinking they are muslim, would you call that a "racist" attack - even though they are supposedly only attacking people because of their beliefs? When someone categorises the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group, as moses does here, is that not 'racializing' muslims?

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't  believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me. So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed: moses wrote on Oct 23rd, 2015 at 4:39pm: The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate, discuss.

Do you agree there are different breeds of dogs, and that these breeds have varying temperaments?

temperaments, dogs, muslims...?

yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole.

Not racist, G. Temperaments and dogs aren't a race either.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

temperaments, dogs, muslims...? yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole.

Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith.

Nonetheless, the thread question is about racism, not Islam.

Do you accept that within the description of "dog" there are different temperaments, so that certain breeds are recognised as more intelligent than others, whilst others are recognised as more aggressive?

Do you accept - within humans - certain races are more intelligent than others? For example, Asians are more intelligent than Caucasians, although Caucasians produce more geniuses?

Do you accept that white men can't jump, when compared to their negro counterparts, but negros are useless and unrepresentative in the pool, when it comes to swimming?

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 3:58pm: temperaments, dogs, muslims...? yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole. Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith.

I agree, dear, but the problem is, we still can't tell. The Muselman, you see, practices taqiyya.

To live in Australia, you should have to renounce your race as well. That way, we'll clear out all the Muselmen in one fell sweep.

You seem to be making a heroic case for racism Nicole.

Still, I'm not sure what this has to do with the topic.

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:20pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 3:58pm: temperaments, dogs, muslims...? yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole. Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith. I agree, dear, but the problem is, we still can't tell. The Muselman, you see, practices taqiyya. To live in Australia, you should have to renounce your race as well. That way, we'll clear out all the Muselmen in one fell sweep.

Yeah that's an option. The other is to return to the White Australia Policy. It's far less complex.

What's the expression used for religion of peace cultists fleeing to western and nominally Christian countries to be safe from other religion of peace cultists?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

You seem to be making a heroic case for racism Nicole. Still, I'm not sure what this has to do with the topic.

I asked three questions. You have responded to none of them. Why?

To answer your question, the thread question is " what is a racist comment?"  My counter is, if the comment is true based on data, how is it wrong?

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:22pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:20pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 3:58pm: temperaments, dogs, muslims...? yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole. Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith. I agree, dear, but the problem is, we still can't tell. The Muselman, you see, practices taqiyya. To live in Australia, you should have to renounce your race as well. That way, we'll clear out all the Muselmen in one fell sweep. Yeah that's an option. The other is to return to the White Australia Policy. It's far less complex.

There's nothing racist about that, dear. Whites aren't a race either.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:24pm: You seem to be making a heroic case for racism Nicole. Still, I'm not sure what this has to do with the topic. I asked three questions. You have responded to none of them. Why? To answer your question, the thread question is " what is a racist comment?"  My counter is, if the comment is true based on data, how is it wrong?

I agree. Statistics prove pooches have completely different temperaments. You don't mix your poodles with your great danes, and vice versa. It's scientific, no?

How could it possibly be racist?

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

I asked three questions. You have responded to none of them. Why?

Because I usually prefer to know the purpose of a question before I answer it.


Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

To answer your question, the thread question is " what is a racist comment?"  My counter is, if the comment is true based on data, how is it wrong?

Thats not an answer to the question Nicole:

Q. what is a racist comment?
A. if the comment is based on data, how is it wrong?

Does that make sense to you?

Please feel free to stop being cryptic and make your point.

Bobby. wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Dear Gandalf, I read somewhere that the Palestinians have exactly the same genetic markers as the Jews. discuss.

Once again Gandalf ignores me.

awww poor Bobby.

Do you crave for my attention that much?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 6:13pm:

awww poor Bobby. Do you crave for my attention that much?

Yes - you too often ignore the hard questions & push your own agenda.

you are forgiven

namaste

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:28pm: I asked three questions. You have responded to none of them. Why? Because I usually prefer to know the purpose of a question before I answer it. Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:28pm: To answer your question, the thread question is " what is a racist comment?"  My counter is, if the comment is true based on data, how is it wrong? Thats not an answer to the question Nicole: Q. what is a racist comment? A. if the comment is based on data, how is it wrong? Does that make sense to you? Please feel free to stop being cryptic and make your point.

Yes, it makes sense to me.

We are so overwhelmed with Brian Ross's racist and bigotry claims - even among the so called racist right bent on this board - that we can't see the wood for the trees. The question, "what is a racist comment" becomes rather negligible if racism, is in fact, verifiable, and Asians as a whole are accepted as on average smarter than your average Caucasian bear. If negros can't swim. If white men can't jump. And so on.

The only one being cryptic Gandalf is you. Why don't you answer my questions as I have answered each of yours? What are you afraid of?

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Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 6:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 6:10pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:28pm: I asked three questions. You have responded to none of them. Why? Because I usually prefer to know the purpose of a question before I answer it. Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6th, 2016 at 5:28pm: To answer your question, the thread question is " what is a racist comment?"  My counter is, if the comment is true based on data, how is it wrong? Thats not an answer to the question Nicole: Q. what is a racist comment? A. if the comment is based on data, how is it wrong? Does that make sense to you? Please feel free to stop being cryptic and make your point. Yes, it makes sense to me. We are so overwhelmed with Brian Ross's racist and bigotry claims - even among the so called racist right bent on this board - that we can't see the wood for the trees. The question, "what is a racist comment" becomes rather negligible if racism, is in fact, verifiable, and Asians as a whole are accepted as on average smarter than your average Caucasian bear. If negros can't swim. If white men can't jump. And so on. The only one being cryptic Gandalf is you. Why don't you answer my questions as I have answered each of yours? What are you afraid of?

"Overwhelmed"?  Really, "Nicole".   I have rarely posted here over the last six months or more.   Appears to me that you credit me with considerably more influence than I deserve.

Perhaps you'd like to discuss Torture instead?