Please note that FD himself suggested I post this here - I was happy to keep it between us. But sure, I'll let my views be known here...

I think the whole idea is utterly absurd and should be scrapped altogether. Especially for a board that was specifically set up in the interests of free speech. Personally I like indulging in a few expletives to emphasise my arguments, and I don't believe it detracts from the quality of my arguments. But does it even dissuade people from swearing? Of course not, everyone just finds ways of spelling it differently to avoid the filter. Besides, when you see the word 'smacking' or whatever euphemisms are used, obviously everyone knows what word it is really - thus one way or another, swearing is not avoided anyway.

So for feerks sake, lets stop this shIIt and get rid of this stupid, moronic faarking filter!

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Please note that FD himself suggested I post this here - I was happy to keep it between us. But sure, I'll let my views be known here... I think the whole idea is utterly absurd and should be scrapped altogether. Especially for a board that was specifically set up in the interests of free speech. Personally I like indulging in a few expletives to emphasise my arguments, and I don't believe it detracts from the quality of my arguments. But does it even dissuade people from swearing? Of course not, everyone just finds ways of spelling it differently to avoid the filter. Besides, when you see the word 'smacking' or whatever euphemisms are used, obviously everyone knows what word it is really - thus one way or another, swearing is not avoided anyway. So for feerks sake, lets stop this shIIt and get rid of this stupid, moronic faarking filter!

Well said.

Poll added.

I removed some of the words from the swear word filter a few weeks back.  There's only about half a dozen in there now.

Leave the C word there.

No need to use that I reckon!

In my opinion, everything has limits, including WHAT & HOW we say.

If the current limits in place on this site are relaxed any further, then this site will go down a similar road to FD's other site, that being PA, Which frankly leaves a lot to be desired!

However, this is FD's site, so if he wants this site to go down the same path as PA, then that's his decision.

That said, I will not entertain going any further down that path, whatsoever!

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 11:01am:

In my opinion, everything has limits, including WHAT & HOW we say. If the current limits in place on this site are relaxed any further, then this site will go down a similar road to FD's other site, that being PA, Which frankly leaves a lot to be desired! However, this is FD's site, so if he wants this site to go down the same path as PA, then that's his decision. That said, I will not entertain going any further down that path, whatsoever!

I voted 'Keep it' for that exact reason.  You give some people an inch, they will take a mile as you have seen with my 'imposter.'  I'd toughen it up to make a clear statement of zero tolerance towards going down a primrose path to the almost empty but open fetid sewer that other place is.

get rid of it. There isn't one word on there that people can't find ways around if they choose to.

I think some words should be out of bounds.
Rednecks C word suggestion being right, but otherwise I don't think it's needed.
This isn't a kids site.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

I think some words should be out of bounds. Rednecks C word suggestion being right, but otherwise I don't think it's needed. This isn't a kids site.

Sure...but kids can access it. 

And if you reckon you have had enough of complaints about conduct here under the current Rules, expect an avalanche if you give people, like one I don't need to name, an inch.

Further, the place will empty out, believe me.  There are other sites Mr Hicks where no-one is subjected to crap as you propose.

As I said, FD has grown to really like the smell of poo.

Aussie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 11:24am:

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 11:01am: In my opinion, everything has limits, including WHAT & HOW we say. If the current limits in place on this site are relaxed any further, then this site will go down a similar road to FD's other site, that being PA, Which frankly leaves a lot to be desired! However, this is FD's site, so if he wants this site to go down the same path as PA, then that's his decision. That said, I will not entertain going any further down that path, whatsoever! I voted 'Keep it' for that exact reason.  You give some people an inch, they will take a mile as you have seen with my 'imposter.'  I'd toughen it up to make a clear statement of zero tolerance towards going down a primrose path to the almost empty but open fetid sewer that other place is.

I agree with both of you. Surrender to the lowest common denominator is never a good option.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

I think some words should be out of bounds. Rednecks C word suggestion being right, but otherwise I don't think it's needed. This isn't a kids site.

That sums it up for me.

However, the use of foul language should be restrained to a bare minimum and not used with rampant profligacy.

If for no other reason than that ladies are present.   ::)

I am not voting. I will abide by any ruling, but I find the present policy ironic. F88K is banned, but bugger is perfectly acceptable. Reminds me of the time I heard a suburban grandmother admonishing an innocent little girl I would guess her own flesh and blood, "You little bugger." She also called the child "Bugger Lugs." You wonder why Australians grow up with such foul mouths? Its because they don't think about what they are saying.

For Marla to reach her unbridled full stride she needs all of those colourful Anglo-Saxon words. It's the least we can do for her as a regular ranter here.

issuevoter wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

I am not voting. I will abide by any ruling, but I find the present policy ironic. F88K is banned, but bugger is perfectly acceptable. Reminds me of the time I heard a suburban grandmother admonishing an innocent little girl I would guess her own flesh and blood, "You little bugger." She also called the child "Bugger Lugs." You wonder why Australians grow up with such foul mouths? Its because they don't think about what they are saying.

n***** is banned, and there is a reasonable justification for that - racist white supremists might go googling for that very term, and then start running rampant on the forums they find where people are talking about it. You certainly wouldn't want your forum to become a magnet for such people. And yet, funnily enough Abo, boong and coon aren't banned - even though IMO they are just as offensive.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 11:46am:

racist white supremists might go googling for that very term, and then start running rampant on the forums

to late. :D :D

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 11:46am:

n***** is banned, and there is a reasonable justification for that - racist white supremists might go googling for that very term, and then start running rampant on the forums they find where people are talking about it. You certainly wouldn't want your forum to become a magnet for such people. And yet, funnily enough Abo, boong and coon aren't banned - even though IMO they are just as offensive.

So it's back to Kindy again.

What a shame.

Sacred cows.

Let's not deal with them. Let's put them under the bed as 'boogey men' words to frighten the children with (that's us).

n***** is spelt with 5 asterisks and not 6, gandalf tells us.  8-)

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 12:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 11:46am: n***** is banned, and there is a reasonable justification for that - racist white supremists might go googling for that very term, and then start running rampant on the forums they find where people are talking about it. You certainly wouldn't want your forum to become a magnet for such people. And yet, funnily enough Abo, boong and coon aren't banned - even though IMO they are just as offensive. So it's back to Kindy again. What a shame. Sacred cows. Let's not deal with them. Let's put them under the bed as 'boogey men' words to frighten the children with (that's us). n***** is spelt with 5 asterisks and not 6, gandalf tells us.  8-)

So, you'd accept any swear word, Herbie?  You have no taboos?  Words you were taught were too naughty for polite conversation?   Mmm?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 12:54pm:

So, you'd accept any swear word, Herbie?  You have no taboos?  Words you were taught were too naughty for polite conversation?   Mmm?    ::) ::)

It's not quite as simple as you are suggesting. Firstly let's assume everyone here is adult enough to put limits on their use of ugly words.

If the filter is here because a tiny percentage have no control over their language - then I totally disagree with a filter. These cretins should simply be expelled from this forum as too immature be a member of it.

I also believe there are those rare occasions when even the worst of the nasty words seems right and fitting even to the most restrained among us.

If you treat people like small children, then they will take that as a cue to behave like small children.

Shortly after WWII in the US, a program was started to reduce anger in young Negroes in the big city ghettoes.

The juvenile courts sent them to a certain catholic priest in one of the southern States where he was in charge of the barracks and the training regimen there.

One of the exercises he had them perform was designed to reduce latent hostility and aggression due to poor self-image.

It was counter-intuitive.

He would line up two rows of 10 boys facing each other, and then in turn, each row would hurl every sort of racist and other kind of abuse at the 'passive-recipient' row of Negro boys.

Maybe 5 minutes from one row, and then it was the other group's turn.

After several weeks of this, the words became almost meaningless, and the power vested in them had almost entirely dissipated with endless repetition.

The moral of the story: "Suck it up and learn to deal with it without taxing your emotions". 

(Aquascoot will be along shortly to conclude this lecture and to ask for donations to help with our Outreach service that finds homes for feral brumbies).

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 12:54pm:

[quote So, you'd accept any swear word, Herbie?  You have no taboos?  Words you were taught were too naughty for polite conversation?   Mmm?    ::) ::)

I don't like gratuitous bad language, Brian, but I'm also not so fragile that I'll shatter if my eyes happen to stumble upon some ripe language in the posts.

"Bend with the wind, Grasshopper, or you will snap like a dry twig".

Quote:

If the filter is here because a tiny percentage have no control over their language - then I totally disagree with a filter. These cretins should simply be expelled from this forum as too immature be a member of it.

Why give the Forum the angst.  Leave the filter in there.  No skin off your nose, is there?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 12:54pm: So, you'd accept any swear word, Herbie?  You have no taboos?  Words you were taught were too naughty for polite conversation?   Mmm?    ::) ::) It's not quite as simple as you are suggesting. Firstly let's assume everyone here is adult enough to put limits on their use of ugly words. If the filter is here because a tiny percentage have no control over their language - then I totally disagree with a filter. These cretins should simply be expelled from this forum as too immature be a member of it. I also believe there are those rare occasions when even the worst of the nasty words seems right and fitting even to the most restrained among us. If you treat people like small children, then they will take that as a cue to behave like small children. Shortly after WWII in the US, a program was started to reduce anger in young Negroes in the big city ghettoes. The juvenile courts sent them to a certain catholic priest in one of the southern States where he was in charge of the barracks and the training regimen there. One of the exercises he had them perform was designed to reduce latent hostility and aggression due to poor self-image. It was counter-intuitive. He would line up two rows of 10 boys facing each other, and then in turn, each row would hurl every sort of racist and other kind of abuse at the 'passive-recipient' row of Negro boys. Maybe 5 minutes from one row, and then it was the other group's turn. After several weeks of this, the words became almost meaningly, and the power vested in them had almost entirely dissipated with endless repetition. The moral of the story: "Suck it up and learn to deal with it without taxing your emotions".  (Aquascoot will be along shortly to conclude this lecture and to ask for donations to help with our Outreach service that finds homes for feral brumbies).

I think you mean that the "words became almost meaningless", rather than "meaningful", Herbie.

Desensitising works for some people.  However, for others, it works in reverse, making people more sensitive towards nasty words.

Personally, there isn't much that makes my hair curl.  Ten years in the Army saw to that.   Most Australians have heard it all before, at least once, if not more often.   

I once worked for a Government department and we bought a new email filter appliance ("computer" to the lay person like you).  I was tasked with implementing it to stop spam and I noticed that the filter included "bad language" options.   I asked my boss whether we should turn them on.   He suggested that would be a good idea.   I shrugged my shoulders and followed instructions.  All email ceased flowing in and out of the Department's servers within 48 hours and we received complaints that no one was getting any email.   It seems that Australians routinely, even in official communications utilise much more robust language than our American cousins across the pond.   I turned the filters off and email started to flow again.

Even so, I shy away from using some words because I find them upsetting because I know how they upset my friends.  I was taught to never use the "c" word.   I was taught to never use the "f" word.  I was taught to never call a person a derogatory name, such as the "n" word or "a" word, Herbie.   As a consequence I never do.   I might occasionally use the "f" word but I'll never use the "c" word.

I'm just interested if you consider any words "taboo", Herbie.  Do you?

As for the expulsion of the expletive users, I have little problem with that, after they have been warned.  If the fail to comply with the warning then they can be out on their arses for all I care.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 2:56pm:

I'm just interested if you consider any words "taboo", Herbie.  Do you?

The 'c' word ... the 'n*****' word ... 'coon' ... 'faggots' ... words like that. You couldn't bring me a single person who has ever heard me say those words during the 54 years I've been in Australia. And I only used the word 'wog' twice when I was drunk at work during my whole working life.

In real life I very rarely swear except to emphasise an emotional point in conversation with a fellow male - and then it depends on who I'm talking to.  I don't swear with doctors and the like.

Both my elder brothers never swore - ever. Zilch. Zero. And I never once heard my father or mother swear.

I never swear at all in mixed company where women will overhear me.



Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 2:56pm:

As for the expulsion of the expletive users, I have little problem with that, after they have been warned.  If the fail to comply with the warning then they can be out on their arses for all I care.

Correct.

As bogarde said just recently - it lowers the whole tone of this board to the extent where you feel like leaving the room to regain your self-respect, so to speak. 

Enough talk, come on freediver, hit the delete button!

Dont need a secretary do you?  :)

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:29pm:

Enough talk, come on freediver, hit the delete button! Dont need a secretary do you?  :)

Don't be an arsehole - leave him alone!  8-)

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:29pm: Enough talk, come on freediver, hit the delete button! Dont need a secretary do you?  :) Don't be an arsehole - leave him alone!  8-)

Not an arsehole.......

He does dither around a lot in my opinion....cant seem to make a quick decision!

I bet he works for the Public Service in real life!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:35pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:31pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:29pm: Enough talk, come on freediver, hit the delete button! Dont need a secretary do you?  :) Don't be an arsehole - leave him alone!  8-) Not an arsehole....... He does dither around a lot in my opinion....cant seem to make a quick decision! I bet he works for the Public Service in real life!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well maybe it's him who is the arsehole?!  8-)

(This is the Swear Thread, so please be sure to drop a choice word or two on your way out).

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:23pm:

And I only used the word 'wog' twice

;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D


you've used it a lot more than twice on this forum that's for sure :D :D

Although I believe you may have only used it twice in real life ... you strike me as the sort who's to gutless to say it to ones face

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:44pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:35pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:31pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:29pm: Enough talk, come on freediver, hit the delete button! Dont need a secretary do you?  :) Don't be an arsehole - leave him alone!  8-) Not an arsehole....... He does dither around a lot in my opinion....cant seem to make a quick decision! I bet he works for the Public Service in real life!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well maybe it's him who is the arsehole?!  8-) (This is the Swear Thread, so please be sure to drop a choice word or two on your way out).

Ship!  (a sneaky version of a swear word)

Do you think I am in for the chop!

Hadn't thought of him as a vengeful type!

Just joking freediver, only kidding, suck suck!  :-[

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:23pm: And I only used the word 'wog' twice ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you've used it a lot more than twice on this forum that's for sure :D :D

Teasing you has been a wicked pleasure of mine, I must confess, John. My apologies. I gave up smoking .. and then I gave up drinking .. and it left me with no vices at all to amuse myself with. Man does not live by bread alone, John. He needs to feel he's upsetting somebody somewhere just to feel alive.



John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Although I believe you may have only used it twice in real life ... you strike me as the sort who's too gutless to say it to ones face

Anger prompted me to include the word 'wog' with these two people - and they deserved it. How many times has Laugh and Karnal here included anti-English insults in almost every one of their posts where I'm involved? 50? 60? It's routine with them. Why haven't you picked them up on this?

I actually don't care that people use the word 'wog' , just as I don't care that they use pommie or yank. Just don't pretend that you don't use it when you do

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 6:38pm:

I actually don't care that people use the word 'wog' , just as I don't care that they use pommie or yank. Just don't pretend that you don't use it when you do

It says more about you than it does about me that you insist I use the word, when in fact I don't.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 8:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:38pm: I actually don't care that people use the word 'wog' , just as I don't care that they use pommie or yank. Just don't pretend that you don't use it when you do It says more about you than it does about me that you insist I use the word, when in fact I don't.

That would be believable, except that you have called me a wog several times over the years  :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:01pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:38pm: I actually don't care that people use the word 'wog' , just as I don't care that they use pommie or yank. Just don't pretend that you don't use it when you do It says more about you than it does about me that you insist I use the word, when in fact I don't. That would be believable, except that you have called me a wog several times over the years  :D :D :D

Should I unleash my awesome search function beast, Herbert?

Aussie wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 8:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:02pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:01pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:38pm: I actually don't care that people use the word 'wog' , just as I don't care that they use pommie or yank. Just don't pretend that you don't use it when you do It says more about you than it does about me that you insist I use the word, when in fact I don't. That would be believable, except that you have called me a wog several times over the years  :D :D :D Should I unleash my awesome search function beast, Herbert?

No need. You've come in late, so you haven't read my disclaimer.

"Teasing you has been a wicked pleasure of mine, I must confess, John. My apologies. I gave up smoking .. and then I gave up drinking .. and it left me with no vices at all to amuse myself with. Man does not live by bread alone, John. He needs to feel he's upsetting somebody somewhere just to feel alive".


Every time an ethnic calls me a 'Pom', or refers to me as a 'Pom' - which is a contraction of 'Pommy bastard' - this gives me the right to answer in like kind with the term 'wog'.

There is a difference between the terms 'Brit' and 'Pom' - and it's one of politeness on the one hand, and derision on the other.

Any smartarse wog who pretends he doesn't understand that - is lying.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 8:39pm:

which is a contraction of 'Pommy bastard'

only in your head you idiot

Pom is derived from P.O.H.M.   ... or prisoner of her majesty :D :D :D

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 8:39pm:

Any smartarse wog

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 8:01pm:

It says more about you than it does about me that you insist I use the word, when in fact I don't.

:D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 9:04pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:39pm: which is a contraction of 'Pommy bastard' only in your head you idiot Pom is derived from P.O.H.M.   ... or prisoner of her majesty :D :D :D

Which is worse - 'idiot' or 'wog'?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 9:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 9:04pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:39pm: which is a contraction of 'Pommy bastard' only in your head you idiot Pom is derived from P.O.H.M.   ... or prisoner of her majesty :D :D :D Which is worse - 'idiot' or 'wog'?

idiot.

And if you think someone calling you a pom is calling you a pommie bastard, then you deserve to be called an idiot.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

I think some words should be out of bounds. Rednecks C word suggestion being right, but otherwise I don't think it's needed. This isn't a kids site.

How come Armpit can post then ?

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 9:04pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:39pm: which is a contraction of 'Pommy bastard' only in your head you idiot Pom is derived from P.O.H.M.   ... or prisoner of her majesty :D :D :D

'Prisoner Of Mother England' - get it right next time.

So how about 'W.O.G' which is said to derive from 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' ?

If POMMY (Bastard) isn't an offensive term, then why should ethnics be offended by the term 'Wog'?

I once had a couple of ethnics come to me in the workplace to ask me if they should be offended by the term 'Wog' - and I found myself hesitating. I often heard ethnics ironically calling each other 'wog'.

When I arrived in Australia I was surprised to learn that it's okay to call someone a 'bastard' as a term of endearment - something that is totally unacceptable in the UK.

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 9:24pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 9:21pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 9:04pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2016 at 8:39pm: which is a contraction of 'Pommy bastard' only in your head you idiot Pom is derived from P.O.H.M.   ... or prisoner of her majesty :D :D :D Which is worse - 'idiot' or 'wog'? idiot.

So shall we get Aussie to check how many times since I arrived on this board you've gratuitously called me an 'idiot' because you disagreed with my comments?

Let's compare that with how many times I've put the word 'wog' your way.

Glass houses.


John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 9:24pm:

And if you think someone calling you a pom is calling you a pommie bastard, then you deserve to be called an idiot.

When you presume to lecture me on the subject of Australian terminologies, please bear in mind that I was Out There and functioning in society long before you were a microscopic piece of spaghetti in your father's eye before he had met your mother. 

'Bloody Yugoslav' was a set piece that always went together.

I agree that 'Pommy' only very rarely now carries with it the binary 'Pommy bastard', but even so the word 'Pom' or 'Pommy' carries with it connotations of derision and contempt to a greater or lesser degree depending on the context.

I'd be interested in hearing other's opinion on this. Don't be afraid to contradict me if you believe meanings have shifted over the years.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:01am:

So shall we get Aussie to check how many times since I arrived on this board you've gratuitously called me an 'idiot' because you disagreed with my comments? Let's compare that with how many times I've put the word 'wog' your way. Glass houses.

not even close to similar. I actually don't care that you call me wog...

But when was the last time you saw me proclaim that I never call anyone an idiot?



Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:01am:

When you presume to lecture me on the subject of Australian terminologies, please bear in mind that I was Out There and functioning in society long before you were a microscopic piece of spaghetti in your father's eye before he had met your mother. 'Bloody Yugoslav' was a set piece that always went together.

ohh please .... now you're pretending you know better because of your age  ::) ::) ::)
Just think how sad that you've spent the last 80 years getting your terminology WRONG  ;D ;D ;D

I suspect Herb that you actually (and foolishly) believed that you were above reproach. Now that I've opened your eyes to the truth, you are so disappointed in yourself that you're clambering for excuses to try and make yourself feel better.

Just cop it on the chin Herb. You have bigger issues to worry about than how often you call someone a wog.

I accept your white flag of surrender.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 8:23am:

I accept your white flag of surrender.

:-* :-*


Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:50am:

So how about 'W.O.G' which is said to derive from 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' ?

no ... it stands for 'Western Oriental Gentlemen'. The true wogs are those from the Middle east. It's not my fault aussies got it wrong for the last 200 years .

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:00am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 8:23am: I accept your white flag of surrender. :-* :-* Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:50am: So how about 'W.O.G' which is said to derive from 'Wily Oriental Gentleman' ? no ... it stands for 'Western Oriental Gentlemen'. The true wogs are those from the Middle east. It's not my fault aussies got it wrong for the last 200 years .

Wrong again.

At the beginning of its use, 'Wog' carried no connotations of abuse or insult with it, and referred only to the young Indians who went to study civil service in the UK during the Raj.

My, how interesting.  Perhaps you should read this entry on the term "wog" at Wikipedia, Herbie.  It might educate you.  It might even correct your change your thinking on the matter.   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 12:02am:

My, how interesting.  Perhaps you should read this entry on the term "wog" at Wikipedia, Herbie.  It might educate you.  It might even correct your change your thinking on the matter.   ::) ::) ::)

Brian - I have read books on India, and as against the 'information' contained in cheap-and-nasty 'populist' sources such as 'Wikipedia', I think I'll stick with the version I discovered in the weighty tomes that were required reading at school.

The matter is no longer up for discussion.

Consider yourself dismissed.

PS. "This article needs additional citations for verification. (January 2013)"

Precisely.

You may now leave the room. Close the door quietly behind you.

Incidentally, the 'Australian-English' version of the meaning of 'wog' is so far out in the boondocks the bus doesn't go that far. Ask my Northern European Dutch neighbour if she and her husband were exempt from Aussies calling them 'wogs'.

bugger poo fanny nice person

Swear filter , still here it seems

Its time wrote on Jun 25^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

bugger poo fanny nice person Swear filter , still here it seems

It is. I've been wondering about that.