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Where’s Waleed Aly? Does he not want to condemn Sheik Shady Al-Suleiman? WHERE’S Waleed? Where is Waleed Aly, our most prominent Muslim apologist, now that Islam in Australia is in crisis? Last week Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull held a dinner at Kirribilli House to mark the end of Ramadan. He did this to win over Muslim voters and show the rest of us there’s nothing to fear from Islam. In fact, it is now clear from Turnbull’s dinner there is indeed something to fear. Look at the iconic photograph from Turnbull’s dinner — of the Prime Minister at the top table, flanked by his most prized guests. From the left, there was Waleed Aly, the Channel 10 TV host, Gold Logie winner, Monash University terrorism lecturer, Australia Council board member and ABC star. Next to him was his wife, academic Susan Carland, also an occasional ABC presenter. Then, on Turnbull’s right, sat Yassmin Abdel-Magied, self-declared Islamic youth advocate and yet another ABC favourite. These were the people Turnbull wanted to showcase as the authentic and reassuring face of Muslim Australia.  ::) Now, also at the dinner, but out of shot, was Sheik Shady Al-Suleiman, national president of the National Council of Imams. This man — not Turnbull’s top table guests — represents Islam as it is actually taught here by many imams. But as it turned out, the sheik has in his sermons vilified Jews, called on God to help “destroy the enemies of Islam”, declared the punishment for adulterers “is stoning to death”, damned Christmas parties as “worship of Satan” and accused gays of “spreading all these diseases” through “evil actions that bring evil outcomes to our society”. Those are not the views of some lone preacher, as the embarrassed Turnbull later claimed. These are the views of the head of the council representing Muslim preachers in Australia. What’s more, other members of the imam’s council have defended them. No senior Muslim leader has criticised the sheik. But nor has the sheik been criticised by Turnbull’s two celebrity guests — Waleed Aly and Yassmin Abdel-Magied. Abdel-Magied, for instance, in a long article praising the dinner made only one passing reference to Sheik Shady, saying Turnbull should not be lambasted for what she dismissed as merely the sheik’s “former statements”. That evasion is typical. When Abdel-Magied was on the ABC to discuss the slaughter by a Muslim radical of gays in Orlando two weeks ago, she again minimised the role of Islam, claiming the killer was just another young man who had been rejected by the West. But where’s Waleed???? No Muslim in Australia has a bigger media voice than Waleed Aly, and he uses it to promote global warming, refugees and other causes that please the Left.  ::) He also uses it to deflect criticism from Islam after Islamist attacks. When Boko Haram kidnapped hundreds of a Christian girls and turned them into sex slaves, in accordance with quoted scripture, Aly on Channel 10 dismissed these jihadists as just “vigilantes” and never mentioned they were Muslims with an Islamist agenda. After last year’s Paris massacre, Aly warned against blaming Islam because that’s what the Islamic State wanted — which seems to me to be Aly telling us to moderate our behaviour to avoid provoking Islamic State.  ::) There was something similar after the mass murder in Orlando by an Islamic State supporter, the son of an Afghan immigrant and Taliban supporter. This time Aly went on the ABC to explain the slaughter, and in a long lecture not only failed to mention Islam, but appeared to blame the West for this alleged fruit of its “freedom”. Here’s some of Aly’s stunningly verbose sermon: “Our world is now one that is an increasingly polarised and polarising contest between new frontiers of cosmopolitism on the one hand and quite responsive and symbiotically related frontiers of atavism on the other. “And within that lie all of the political narratives that have sustained us through the 20th century that simply don’t work anymore — narratives like freedom, right, which, you know, expresses its own contradictions in America every time there is a mass shooting…. “This freedom just kind of ends up consuming itself in a very strange, dark sort of a way.” Yes, the West is killing itself with its freedom. Don’t blame the faith of a terrorist who does the killing. So here’s the critical issue. We have top Muslim clerics preaching intolerance — hatred of gays, stonings. And we have our most prominent Muslims refusing to criticise them. In fact, they excuse Islam even when Islamic terrorists kill in Islam’s name, quoting Islamic texts. They instead blame the West and its “freedoms”.  ::) So what must we conclude about the teachings of Islam?

yes... where's Wally indeed?

an apologists for the scum Islamic Muslims and a traitor to Australia...

much like the apologists and deflectors of this forum..

mores the point...... why havent any of his mates asked him that very question????/.......

have they been warned .. NOT TO ASK IT.. :(

He is probably trying out for a position with the parramatta eels.
He is certainly as slippery as one

I formed my opinion of Mr Aly after this apologetic piece of Islamist support.

He framed this as oppressed Muslims letting off steam.
Lets not forget, 2 people ended up  in Syria holding severed heads and many have been implicated in terror plots.

Nice one, Waly.

This is the behaviour of a drunkenly humiliated people: swinging wildly with the hope of landing a blow, any blow, somewhere, anywhere.


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8

Once again The Mechanic is too gutless to cite a reference for his post.

What a pathetic specimen he is.

It makes no difference you contemptible t/wat >:(

It's true ... where is Waleed?

At home stroking his Logie?

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:11am:

It makes no difference you contemptible t/wat >:( It's true ... where is Waleed? At home stroking his Logie?

Likely,

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:11am:

It makes no difference you contemptible t/wat >:( It's true ... where is Waleed? At home stroking his Logie?

Working of drafts for the next few muztard attacks.
Being am Islamist apologist would keep you busy these days

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:11am:

It's true ... where is Waleed?

why is it compulsory for waleed to publicly comment every time some muslims says or does anything?

Get off your high horse, he owes you nothing.

My horse is only 15 hands

so that's not a very high horse

I understand your position looking up from an 10 hand mount.

On stage, rockin' up a storm.


http://shop.brianmayguitars.co.uk/user/gallery/Waleed%20Aly%20-%20Robot%20Child%202014.jpg

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:24am:

My horse is only 15 hands so that's not a very high horse I understand your position looking up from an 10 hand mount.

15 hands? about the same as your IQ then

You're the knowall ... you tell me.

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:28am:

You're the knowall ... you tell me.

tell you what? I don't think he owes it to anyone to publicly comment every time some Muslim says or does something you don't like. He's stated his position on extremism many times. There's nothing to tell. If you haven't got where he stands yet, you never will.

Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President.


http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President. http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg

at least we know he has one creepy crawly supporter....erkkkkkkkkkkkk

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President. http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg

;D ;D ;D ;D

Australias own cheaper model Obama

Now that is a laugh.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:25am:

On stage, rockin' up a storm. http://shop.brianmayguitars.co.uk/user/gallery/Waleed%20Aly%20-%20Robot%20Child%202014.jpg

Legend

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:34am:

Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President. http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg

He sure is Greg and thank heavens for that

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:34am: Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President. http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg Australias own .

Yep.

Aussie Legend.

I have never seen his show, is it any good?

I think it clashes with the WIN (NINE) news.

Although I think from July1 WIN is taking all TEN network shows so who knows what i will watch then.

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:33am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:28am: You're the knowall ... you tell me. tell you what? I don't think he owes it to anyone to publicly comment every time some Muslim says or does something you don't like. He's stated his position on extremism many times. There's nothing to tell. If you haven't got where he stands yet, you never will.

He stands in silence ... he knew the hate preacher was there ...

not saying anything is as good as supporting in this case

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:41am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:34am: Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President. http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg ;D ;D ;D ;D Australias own cheaper model Obama Now that is a laugh.

We had the poor mans Howard when the women basher was PM for 2 years

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:43am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:41am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:34am: Preparing to be the Australian Republic's first President. http://www.saxton.com.au/images/stories/profiles/images-colour/Aly_Waleed.jpg Australias own . Yep. Aussie Legend.

He's like you Peccar

a legend in his own lunchtime

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:33am: Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:28am: You're the knowall ... you tell me. tell you what? I don't think he owes it to anyone to publicly comment every time some Muslim says or does something you don't like. He's stated his position on extremism many times. There's nothing to tell. If you haven't got where he stands yet, you never will. He stands in silence ... he knew the hate preacher was there ... not saying anything is as good as supporting in this case

what a load of croc. Did you go out and publicly comment?

I'll tell you where the little rat-faced muslim fifth-columnist is.
He's probably at some radical mosque getting his instructions on how to ingratiate himself with Australian audiences.

I wonder what Walled Aly's views are on homosexuality? I bet it's shocking.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:48am:

I wonder what Walled Aly's views are on homosexuality? I bet it's shocking.

you hoping for a date?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:48am:

I wonder what Walled Aly's views are on homosexuality?

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdaQKotCYAAD-PA.png

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:50am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:48am: I wonder what Walled Aly's views are on homosexuality? I bet it's shocking. you hoping for a date?

No wogboy. Hoping for the truth.

8-) 8-)

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:45am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:43am: John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:33am: Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:28am: You're the knowall ... you tell me. tell you what? I don't think he owes it to anyone to publicly comment every time some Muslim says or does something you don't like. He's stated his position on extremism many times. There's nothing to tell. If you haven't got where he stands yet, you never will. He stands in silence ... he knew the hate preacher was there ... not saying anything is as good as supporting in this case what a load of croc. Did you go out and publicly comment?

How so? Here is public ..... I don't work in the national media.

I don't get invited to lunches/dinners at Kirribilli House

and as a high profile Muslim who makes his views known regarding islamic extremism

why would Walleed Aly want to be seen at the same venue with someone like this hate preacher

surely someone with as much nous as he is supposed to have would know that it wasn't a good look

and could be seen as being a silent supporter of this radicals views.

But hey .. just sweep it under the carpet

"move along nothing going on here". ::)

I reckon Bernardi is a closet!

Certainly has the look of a gay boy!

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:55am:

and as a high profile Muslim who makes his views known regarding islamic extremism why would Walleed Aly want to be seen at the same venue with someone like this hate preacher

so he should miss out on dinner with the PM just because he doesn't like another guest? :D :D

You sound like one of those old women that torments her future daughter in law for months and months about seating arrangements at her wedding

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:55am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:45am: Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:43am: John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:33am: Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:28am: You're the knowall ... you tell me. tell you what? I don't think he owes it to anyone to publicly comment every time some Muslim says or does something you don't like. He's stated his position on extremism many times. There's nothing to tell. If you haven't got where he stands yet, you never will. He stands in silence ... he knew the hate preacher was there ... not saying anything is as good as supporting in this case what a load of croc. Did you go out and publicly comment? How so? Here is public ..... I don't work in the national media. I don't get invited to lunches/dinners at Kirribilli House and as a high profile Muslim who makes his views known regarding islamic extremism why would Walleed Aly want to be seen at the same venue with someone like this hate preacher surely someone with as much nous as he is supposed to have would know that it wasn't a good look and could be seen as being a silent supporter of this radicals views. But hey .. just sweep it under the carpet "move along nothing going on here". ::)

Probably because he considers him to be just a normal Muslim, like these normal Muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

Waleed Aly, like all his muslim mates, probably dreams of throwing LBGTs off high buildings.

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:47am:

Waleed Aly, like all his muslim mates, probably dreams of throwing LBGTs off high buildings.

You dream of LBGTs, don't you?

(Not that there's anything wrong with that)

It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:49am:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:47am: Waleed Aly, like all his muslim mates, probably dreams of throwing LBGTs off high buildings. You dream of LBGTs, don't you? (Not that there's anything wrong with that)

You are starting to sound a bit obsessed with that topic as well!

Not hiding something are you?

If Waleed Aly is a proper Muslim he would have to despise homosexuality. It's anti Islamic not to.

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:50am:

It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable.

To any reasonable person, yes it is preposterous.

Remember, though: we're dealing with Gordy, boges, and The Mechanic here.

http://i.imgur.com/f0aNSWd.gif

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:50am:

It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable.

Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:58am:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. To any reasonable person, yes it is preposterous. Remember, though: we're dealing with Gordy, boges, and The Mechanic here. http://i.imgur.com/f0aNSWd.gif

Wally was an apologist for this guy.
Well done Wally.

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 7:32am:

yes... where's Wally indeed? an apologists for the scum Islamic Muslims and a traitor to Australia... much like the apologists and deflectors of this forum..

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/122743/2332811-yawn_20smiley.jpg

You mean people who believe in the great Australian truism of "a fair go for all"?

You mean people who believe that real justice, not prejudice should judge whether or not a person has committed a crime?

You mean people who believe that there is no crime in seeking Asylum in Australia?

You mean people who don't believe being a Muslim is a crime?

You mean people who point out that not all Muslims are Terrorists?

You're such a nice person, Mechanic, I'm sure you don't mean those sorts of people who are the only ones I see here, talking out against bigotry and prejudice.    ::)

Crikey, Waleed's probably just gone to the toilet.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:27pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:32am: yes... where's Wally indeed? an apologists for the scum Islamic Muslims and a traitor to Australia... much like the apologists and deflectors of this forum.. http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/122743/2332811-yawn_20smiley.jpg You mean people who believe in the great Australian truism of "a fair go for all"? You mean people who believe that real justice, not prejudice should judge whether or not a person has committed a crime? You mean people who believe that there is no crime in seeking Asylum in Australia? You mean people who don't believe being a Muslim is a crime? You mean people who point out that not all Muslims are Terrorists? You're such a nice person, Mechanic, I'm sure you don't mean those sorts of people who are the only ones I see here, talking out against bigotry and prejudice.    ::)

Get off your high horse donkey Ahmed Ross!

You would have to be one of the biggest bigots ever to surface on the internet!

It's amazing how it all passes you by...the irony that is.  :o

... wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.

Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic.

Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive.

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:36pm:

... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.  Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic. Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive.

Do you reckon Ali would agree with what the Koran says about homosexuality and adultery Mothra??

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:38pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:36pm: ... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.  Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic. Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive. Do you reckon Ali would agree with what the Koran says about homosexuality and adultery Mothra??

Would Ali tell these guys they're not normal Muslims?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45-z2ObVBwo

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:38pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:36pm: ... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.  Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic. Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive. Do you reckon Ali would agree with what the Koran says about homosexuality and adultery Mothra??

Well I didn't agree with what the Bible has to say about homosexuality when I was a Catholic .

I expect there are plenty of Muslims who consider their holy book with the same discernment aa I.

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:36pm:

... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.  Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic. Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive.

I like how for moslems its only actions that matter, but for christians, it's speech as well.

Subtle.

... wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:36pm: ... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.  Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic. Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive. I like how for moslems its only actions that matter, but for christians, it's speech as well. Subtle.

Seriously Honky?

We're talking about something someone said.

Jesus.

Q&A recap: Tom Ballard asks Fred Nile if he thinks 'homosexuality is morally wrong'

Fred Nile: Homosexuality is wrong

Christian Fundamentalists clash with Marriage Equality Rally, Sydney Town Hall, 1 Sept 2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UVYt3osK8

Hillsong Pastor Brian Houston on the issue of same-sex marriage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_kBhrjlGfY

Outspoken MP Fred Nile links Mardi Gras to 'promiscuity'... as controversial TV advert says same-sex marriage 'disadvantages' children

Gays and the emerging disease of AIDS. Fred Nile 2GB "Light Show" speaks to Dr Jean Benjamin

Look, Christians speaking out against Homosexuality and Same-Sex Marriage.  We should obviously ban Christianity, immediately!     ::) ::) ::)

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:38pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:36pm: ... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.  Just like any spokesperson for any highly publicised demographic. Imagine expecting Father Bob to apologise every time a Christian does or says something stupid or offensive. Do you reckon Ali would agree with what the Koran says about homosexuality and adultery Mothra?? Well I didn't agree with what the Bible has to say about homosexuality when I was a Catholic . I expect there are plenty of Muslims who consider their holy book with the same discernment aa I.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Q&A recap: Tom Ballard asks Fred Nile if he thinks 'homosexuality is morally wrong' Fred Nile: Homosexuality is wrong Christian Fundamentalists clash with Marriage Equality Rally, Sydney Town Hall, 1 Sept 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UVYt3osK8 Hillsong Pastor Brian Houston on the issue of same-sex marriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_kBhrjlGfY Outspoken MP Fred Nile links Mardi Gras to 'promiscuity'... as controversial TV advert says same-sex marriage 'disadvantages' children Gays and the emerging disease of AIDS. Fred Nile 2GB "Light Show" speaks to Dr Jean Benjamin Look, Christians speaking out against Homosexuality and Same-Sex Marriage.  We should obviously ban Christianity, immediately!     ::) ::) ::)

Why?

Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:06pm:

Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people.

20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nmekb4k-ZeM/hqdefault.jpg

https://oxford.indymedia.org.uk/images/2009/02/422262.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qv_6lKYkXD4/hqdefault.jpg

Christians!    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Q&A recap: Tom Ballard asks Fred Nile if he thinks 'homosexuality is morally wrong' Fred Nile: Homosexuality is wrong Christian Fundamentalists clash with Marriage Equality Rally, Sydney Town Hall, 1 Sept 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UVYt3osK8 Hillsong Pastor Brian Houston on the issue of same-sex marriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_kBhrjlGfY Outspoken MP Fred Nile links Mardi Gras to 'promiscuity'... as controversial TV advert says same-sex marriage 'disadvantages' children Gays and the emerging disease of AIDS. Fred Nile 2GB "Light Show" speaks to Dr Jean Benjamin Look, Christians speaking out against Homosexuality and Same-Sex Marriage.  We should obviously ban Christianity, immediately!     ::) ::) ::)

Look, Muslims speaking out against Homosexuality.
Bit different to what Christians do?

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... wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 12:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. Indeed.  He'd be making disclaimers 25 hours a day, 8 days a week if that were the case.

I expect him to comment on it.

That he does not is an indictment against islam

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:06pm:

Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people.

And still they murder gay people, Lisa.

Why do you continue to blind yourself to what your religion's leaders say and what your co-religionists do?    ::) ::) ::)

John Smith wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:44am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:55am: and as a high profile Muslim who makes his views known regarding islamic extremism why would Walleed Aly want to be seen at the same venue with someone like this hate preacher so he should miss out on dinner with the PM just because he doesn't like another guest? :D :D You sound like one of those old women that torments her future daughter in law for months and months about seating arrangements at her wedding

You lay down in the gutter with dogs

you get up with fleas

GordyL wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:11pm:

Look, Muslims speaking out against Homosexuality. Bit different to what Christians do?

Really?

{url=https://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2011/03/15373/]Really?[/url]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w83kIAfuKoE

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:26pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Why do you continue to blind yourself to what your religion's leaders say and what your co-religionists do?    ::) ::) ::)

Who does?

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:11pm: Look, Muslims speaking out against Homosexuality. Bit different to what Christians do? Really? {url=https://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2011/03/15373/]Really?[/url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w83kIAfuKoE

Nasty fellow with lots of nasty words, Brian.
There are about 10 Muslim countries which state sanctioned execute gays.
Show me the equivalence,  Brian?
Bet you can't

... wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Why do you continue to blind yourself to what your religion's leaders say and what your co-religionists do?    ::) ::) ::) Who does?

Lisa, Moses, Sprint, Yada...    ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:26pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa.

Yes,  Muslims do.

Why?

Their religion advocates it.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:02pm:

... wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Why do you continue to blind yourself to what your religion's leaders say and what your co-religionists do?    ::) ::) ::) Who does? Lisa, Moses, Sprint, Yada...    ::) ::) ::)

YAY!

I'M ON A TROLL'S LIST!

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it.

As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::)

Brian, be a good fellow and get me the Christian equivalence of the 10 Islamic countries which have state sanctioned executions of gays.
Bu COB today would be super

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:07pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::)

Oh yeah...you reckon it does.

And these are the verses which you posited forward as evidence of that.

Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10.

Ummmm, hate to break it to you, but they don't.

Which makes you a lying grub!

GordyL wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Brian, be a good fellow and get me the Christian equivalence of the 10 Islamic countries which have state sanctioned executions of gays. Bu COB today would be super

Firstly, it is more complicated than there being 10 countries that execute homosexuals. Some have it written into law but have never carried it out. In other countries, it's becoming rarer and rarer. In yet other countries it's reserved for married men only.

Don't get me wrong. I think every instance of capital punishment is a gross human rights violations and I strongly oppose the non-appeptance of gays, it's just that you're talking poo and you should know it.

And yet again, you miss the important question... what is the difference between Muslim countries that do this and those that don't?

It is that difference that I am interested in.

Gnads wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:44am: Gnads wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 10:55am: and as a high profile Muslim who makes his views known regarding islamic extremism why would Walleed Aly want to be seen at the same venue with someone like this hate preacher so he should miss out on dinner with the PM just because he doesn't like another guest? :D :D You sound like one of those old women that torments her future daughter in law for months and months about seating arrangements at her wedding You lay down in the gutter with dogs you get up with fleas

true ... but the chance to eat have dinner with the PM at the lodge comes around once in a liftetime for a select few ... why should he miss out even if the PM is a dog?

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Oh yeah...you reckon it does. And these are the verses which you posited forward as evidence of that. Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10. Ummmm, hate to break it to you, but they don't. Which makes you a lying grub!

Talk to your co-religionists, Lisa.  Perhaps they can enlighten you as to their inspiring verses?

Really?

{url=https://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2011/03/15373/]Really?[/url]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w83kIAfuKoE

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:32pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Oh yeah...you reckon it does. And these are the verses which you posited forward as evidence of that. Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10. Ummmm, hate to break it to you, but they don't. Which makes you a lying grub! Talk to your co-religionists, Lisa.  Perhaps they can enlighten you as to their inspiring verses? Really? {url=https://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2011/03/15373/]Really?[/url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w83kIAfuKoE

10 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for gays.

Does any non Islamic country have the death penalty for gays and if so when was the most recent execution of a poof?

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 2:36pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Brian, be a good fellow and get me the Christian equivalence of the 10 Islamic countries which have state sanctioned executions of gays. Bu COB today would be super Firstly, it is more complicated than there being 10 countries that execute homosexuals. Some have it written into law but have never carried it out. In other countries, it's becoming rarer and rarer. In yet other countries it's reserved for married men only. Don't get me wrong. I think every instance of capital punishment is a gross human rights violations and I strongly oppose the non-appeptance of gays, it's just that you're talking poo and you should know it. And yet again, you miss the important question... what is the difference between Muslim countries that do this and those that don't? It is that difference that I am interested in.

It seems the difference between Muslim countries that do and don't execute gays is the ones that do obviously follow more closely the Koran and Sharia law.

I've met young guys from Iran who present as progressive normal guys, but heard with my own ears when they saw some very obviously gay guys around Mardi Gras time, jokes about ropes and cranes.

How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA?

GordyL wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:00pm:

How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA?

Well, it doesn't necessarily reflect the wishes of all Iranians, obviously, any more than the wishes of a "few religious nutjobs" in the USA reflects the wishes of all Christians.   However, do you seriously believe that the lives of Gays and Lesbians would be safer in a theocratic America, if those "few religious nutjobs" came to power and were able to pass legislation to reflect their beliefs?   Seriously?

Neither Iran's or the USA's "religious nutjobs" is better than the other, Gordy.  Both are as equally bad in their theocratic justification for believing that Gays and Lesbians deserve to die.

Care to address what a few of those "religious nutjobs" believe?

Pastor Donnie Romero

Pastor Roger Jiminez

Pastor Steven Anderson

Or will you ignore them in your continued effort to bigotedly attack all Muslims 'cause 10 Muslim countries have the death penalty on their books?   ::) ::) ::)

GordyL wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:36pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Brian, be a good fellow and get me the Christian equivalence of the 10 Islamic countries which have state sanctioned executions of gays. Bu COB today would be super Firstly, it is more complicated than there being 10 countries that execute homosexuals. Some have it written into law but have never carried it out. In other countries, it's becoming rarer and rarer. In yet other countries it's reserved for married men only. Don't get me wrong. I think every instance of capital punishment is a gross human rights violations and I strongly oppose the non-appeptance of gays, it's just that you're talking poo and you should know it. And yet again, you miss the important question... what is the difference between Muslim countries that do this and those that don't? It is that difference that I am interested in. It seems the difference between Muslim countries that do and don't execute gays is the ones that do obviously follow more closely the Koran and Sharia law. I've met young guys from Iran who present as progressive normal guys, but heard with my own ears when they saw some very obviously gay guys around Mardi Gras time, jokes about ropes and cranes. How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA?

Do you really think it's that simple? That countries that don't persecute gays just reads the Quran less?

You don't think it might be about focussing on different bits? Interpreting it in different ways?

And can you think of any reasons why angry zealots are so angry? And how the zealots got into positions of power?

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:00pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:36pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Brian, be a good fellow and get me the Christian equivalence of the 10 Islamic countries which have state sanctioned executions of gays. Bu COB today would be super Firstly, it is more complicated than there being 10 countries that execute homosexuals. Some have it written into law but have never carried it out. In other countries, it's becoming rarer and rarer. In yet other countries it's reserved for married men only. Don't get me wrong. I think every instance of capital punishment is a gross human rights violations and I strongly oppose the non-appeptance of gays, it's just that you're talking poo and you should know it. And yet again, you miss the important question... what is the difference between Muslim countries that do this and those that don't? It is that difference that I am interested in. It seems the difference between Muslim countries that do and don't execute gays is the ones that do obviously follow more closely the Koran and Sharia law. I've met young guys from Iran who present as progressive normal guys, but heard with my own ears when they saw some very obviously gay guys around Mardi Gras time, jokes about ropes and cranes. How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA? Do you really think it's that simple? That countries that don't persecute gays just reads the Quran less? You don't think it might be about focussing on different bits? Interpreting it in different ways? And can you think of any reasons why angry zealots are so angry? And how the zealots got into positions of power?

Lets just use Iran for this example, reading the Koran more or less isn't the issue.
They obviously have a stricter interpretation of it.
Isn't it a good thing we don't live in a country that's laws are based on a strict interpretation of the bible?

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:11pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:00pm: How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA? Well, it doesn't necessarily reflect the wishes of all Iranians, obviously, any more than the wishes of a "few religious nutjobs" in the USA reflects the wishes of all Christians.   However, do you seriously believe that the lives of Gays and Lesbians would be safer in a theocratic America, if those "few religious nutjobs" came to power and were able to pass legislation to reflect their beliefs?   Seriously? Neither Iran's or the USA's "religious nutjobs" is better than the other, Gordy.  Both are as equally bad in their theocratic justification for believing that Gays and Lesbians deserve to die. Care to address what a few of those "religious nutjobs" believe? Pastor Donnie Romero Pastor Roger Jiminez Pastor Steven Anderson Or will you ignore them in your continued effort to bigotedly attack all Muslims 'cause 10 Muslim countries have the death penalty on their books?   ::) ::) ::)

Angry horrible people.
What's their actual body count tho?

GordyL wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:24pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:00pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:36pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Brian, be a good fellow and get me the Christian equivalence of the 10 Islamic countries which have state sanctioned executions of gays. Bu COB today would be super Firstly, it is more complicated than there being 10 countries that execute homosexuals. Some have it written into law but have never carried it out. In other countries, it's becoming rarer and rarer. In yet other countries it's reserved for married men only. Don't get me wrong. I think every instance of capital punishment is a gross human rights violations and I strongly oppose the non-appeptance of gays, it's just that you're talking poo and you should know it. And yet again, you miss the important question... what is the difference between Muslim countries that do this and those that don't? It is that difference that I am interested in. It seems the difference between Muslim countries that do and don't execute gays is the ones that do obviously follow more closely the Koran and Sharia law. I've met young guys from Iran who present as progressive normal guys, but heard with my own ears when they saw some very obviously gay guys around Mardi Gras time, jokes about ropes and cranes. How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA? Quote What is, do you think? Do you really think it's that simple? That countries that don't persecute gays just reads the Quran less? You don't think it might be about focussing on different bits? Interpreting it in different ways? And can you think of any reasons why angry zealots are so angry? And how the zealots got into positions of power? Lets just use Iran for this example, reading the Koran more or less isn't the issue. They obviously have a stricter interpretation of it. Isn't it a good thing we don't live in a country that's laws are based on a strict interpretation of the bible?

Again, you've missed the point.

It's not about how strictly it is interpreted, it's whether or not it is interpreted peacefully. In many parts of the world, it is interpreted strictly and peacefully.

So Islam isn't the lowest common denominator.

What do you think is?

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:50am:

It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable.

no.. EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE'S A TERRORIST ATTACK Wankeed is on his show defending them..

so yeah.. we can't expect him to contradict himself and condemn these terrorist attacks..

or those that preach hate...

after all..

he 100% agrees with all of their hate...

wow.. they should give him a logie..  ::)

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:54pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:32pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:07pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 2:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:26pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm: Why? Unlike Islam, we Christians are not told to murder gay people. And still they murder gay people, Lisa. Yes,  Muslims do. Why? Their religion advocates it. As does Christianity...   ::) ::) ::) Oh yeah...you reckon it does. And these are the verses which you posited forward as evidence of that. Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10. Ummmm, hate to break it to you, but they don't. Which makes you a lying grub! Talk to your co-religionists, Lisa.  Perhaps they can enlighten you as to their inspiring verses? Really? {url=https://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2011/03/15373/]Really?[/url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w83kIAfuKoE 10 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for gays. Does any non Islamic country have the death penalty for gays and if so when was the most recent execution of a poof?

Yeah you tell him Baron  ;D

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. no.. EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE'S A TERRORIST ATTACK Wankeed is on his show defending them.. so yeah.. we can't expect him to contradict himself and condemn these terrorist attacks.. or those that preach hate... after all.. he 100% agrees with all of their hate... wow.. they should give him a logie..  ::)

No he doesn't.

To any of that.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:50am: It's preposterous to expect Waleed to make a public disclaimer every time a Muslim does something unpalatable. no.. EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE'S A TERRORIST ATTACK Wankeed is on his show defending them..

No, he isn't.

He has never defended a terrorist, or an act of terrorism.

Why do you feel the need to lie every time you put your fingers to the keyboard - what do you think it will achieve?

gregy/mothballs ..

please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::)

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:41pm:

gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::)

Even if that were true, how does that explain your lying?

What are you hoping to achieve with your lies?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:41pm:

gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::)

But Lisa says im Brian!

Are you Brian, Greg?

If so, we're a Muslim.

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:44pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:41pm: gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::) But Lisa says im Brian! Are you Brian, Greg? If so, we're a Muslim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYc_flMnMQ

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:45pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:44pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:41pm: gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::) But Lisa says im Brian! Are you Brian, Greg? If so, we're a Muslim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYc_flMnMQ

So we'd not the Messiah then?

.... not very Muslim looking either, for that matter.

GordyL wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 5:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:11pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 5:00pm: How can you think state sanctioned killing of gays in Iran, a law which is a reflection of the wishes of it's people is not as bad as a few religious nutjobs in the USA? Well, it doesn't necessarily reflect the wishes of all Iranians, obviously, any more than the wishes of a "few religious nutjobs" in the USA reflects the wishes of all Christians.   However, do you seriously believe that the lives of Gays and Lesbians would be safer in a theocratic America, if those "few religious nutjobs" came to power and were able to pass legislation to reflect their beliefs?   Seriously? Neither Iran's or the USA's "religious nutjobs" is better than the other, Gordy.  Both are as equally bad in their theocratic justification for believing that Gays and Lesbians deserve to die. Care to address what a few of those "religious nutjobs" believe? Pastor Donnie Romero Pastor Roger Jiminez Pastor Steven Anderson Or will you ignore them in your continued effort to bigotedly attack all Muslims 'cause 10 Muslim countries have the death penalty on their books?   ::) ::) ::) Angry horrible people.

Yes and they are Christians it seems.


Quote:

What's their actual body count tho?

Ah, so it's all down to numbers in your mind, then, Gordy?   ::) ::) ::)

Surely if even one person is hurt that is sufficient to indicate a moral line has been crossed?

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:45pm: mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:44pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:41pm: gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::) But Lisa says im Brian! Are you Brian, Greg? If so, we're a Muslim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYc_flMnMQ So we'd not the Messiah then? .... not very Muslim looking either, for that matter.

Yeah he's not shooting innocent civilians with an AK-47.

Manning the barricades against the Crusaders intent on giving Muslims and Arabs here a better life than they could ever hope for 'back home'.

Christ (sic) - we don't even behead them for some crimes..... more's the pity....

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 6:41pm:

gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::)

Nahh, he's ok. She's 100% insane and follows him around answering questions put to him. It's not his fault.....think of him as a victim.

Anyway, Mothballs does this type of thing all the time. She did the same with Ahmed Ross last night ....kept answering direct questions which were specifically addressed to him so I thought to myself, what the heck...and made fun of her. How? I began calling her Ahmed.

If she starts following you around....just post the words STALKER ALERT.

She'll eventually get the message.

Hope this info helps lol. ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:10pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:41pm: gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::) Nahh, he's ok. She's 100% insane and follows him around answering questions put to him. It's not his fault.....think of him as a victim. Anyway, Mothballs does this type of thing all the time. She did the same with Ahmed Ross last night ....kept answering direct questions which were specifically addressed to him so I thought to myself, what the heck...and made fun of her. How? I began calling her Ahmed. If she starts following you around....just post the words STALKER ALERT. She'll eventually get the message. Hope this info helps lol. ;D

Mercy me. It's my stalker.

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:10pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:41pm: gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::) Nahh, he's ok. She's 100% insane and follows him around answering questions put to him. It's not his fault.....think of him as a victim. Anyway, Mothballs does this type of thing all the time. She did the same with Ahmed Ross last night ....kept answering direct questions which were specifically addressed to him so I thought to myself, what the heck...and made fun of her. How? I began calling her Ahmed. If she starts following you around....just post the words STALKER ALERT. She'll eventually get the message. Hope this info helps lol. ;D Mercy me. It's my stalker.

oh I see what you did there...

get caught out being an insane Stalker

so call that person a stalker..

hell.. no one will see through that logic...   ;D

a bit like Where's Walleed...

his filthy muslim mates preach hate and when he gets called on it he pulls out the shims and mirrors..

what a flog...  ::)

Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 3:40pm:

Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::)

Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8

Here's two of the top blokes he defended.

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 12:36pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:39pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 11:10pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 6:41pm: gregy/mothballs .. please just post under the one name .. who do you think you are kidding?  ::) Nahh, he's ok. She's 100% insane and follows him around answering questions put to him. It's not his fault.....think of him as a victim. Anyway, Mothballs does this type of thing all the time. She did the same with Ahmed Ross last night ....kept answering direct questions which were specifically addressed to him so I thought to myself, what the heck...and made fun of her. How? I began calling her Ahmed. If she starts following you around....just post the words STALKER ALERT. She'll eventually get the message. Hope this info helps lol. ;D Mercy me. It's my stalker. oh I see what you did there... get caught out being an insane Stalker so call that person a stalker.. hell.. no one will see through that logic...   ;D a bit like Where's Walleed... his filthy muslim mates preach hate and when he gets called on it he pulls out the shims and mirrors.. what a flog...  ::)

Mechanic, if you believe Lisa Jones, given her track record, then you are even dafter than I already give you credit for.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm: Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8

An excellent article.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm: Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended.

Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really?

Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:23pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm: Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::)

ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm: Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away

Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm: Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.

Proof?

From Gordy?


https://m.popkey.co/05e616/R5oL_f-maxage-0.gif

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:40pm: Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::)

It was a shame Waly chose to defend a protest that was arranged by terrorists who chopped off heads in Syria and shot a man in the back of the head in Parramatta.

An ABC Four Corners investigation "Plan of Attack" found that some leaders of the protest and prayers were involved in terrorist recruitment for ISIS and local planned terrorist operations.[27] Among those involved with terrorist links were Khaled Sharrouf and Mohamed Elomar.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Sydney_anti-Islam_film_protests#Terrorist_Links

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2015/11/23/4355252.htm

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:39pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1466631101/95#95 date=1466746846]Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::)

No proof?  How unsurprising, Gordy.  ::) ::) ::)

So, the two Terrorists who you provided pictures of were not at the Sydney riot and were not defended by Waleed in his article.

Thanks.   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:39pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1466631101/95#95 date=1466746846]Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::) No proof?  How unsurprising, Gordy.  ::) ::) ::) So, the two Terrorists who you provided pictures of were not at the Sydney riot and were not defended by Waleed in his article. Thanks.   ::) ::) ::)

Bahahahahahaha

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Just tuck your tail between your legs on this one Brian, defend the good muslims, because they sure aren't defending this lot.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:48pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:39pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1466631101/95#95 date=1466746846]Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::) No proof?  How unsurprising, Gordy.  ::) ::) ::) So, the two Terrorists who you provided pictures of were not at the Sydney riot and were not defended by Waleed in his article. Thanks.   ::) ::) ::) Bahahahahahaha

Sorry, I need a source for your photo for me to accept it as being genuine, Gordy.

Took you long enough to produce it.  I wonder why?   ::) ::)

Im struggling to see Gordy's point.

So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it.

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:

Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it.

In an article which was written before they became notorious...   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:19pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:48pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:39pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1466631101/95#95 date=1466746846]Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::) No proof?  How unsurprising, Gordy.  ::) ::) ::) So, the two Terrorists who you provided pictures of were not at the Sydney riot and were not defended by Waleed in his article. Thanks.   ::) ::) ::) Bahahahahahaha Sorry, I need a source for your photo for me to accept it as being genuine, Gordy. Took you long enough to produce it.  I wonder why?   ::) ::)

Mate its common knowledge just Google it.

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:

Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it.

The whole protest was arranged and attended by the worst of the Islamist community in Sydney.  Wally thought it a good idea to get ahead of things and defend them.  Now seriously I don't think he supports terrorists but he was way too quick to defend all things Islam, and this is one of those ones he should have unreservedly condemned with no excuses.  The Muslims I know did

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:39pm: Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it. The whole protest was arranged and attended by the worst of the Islamist community in Sydney.  Wally thought it a good idea to get ahead of things and defend them.  Now seriously I don't think he supports terrorists but he was way too quick to defend all things Islam, and this is one of those ones he should have unreservedly condemned with no excuses.  The Muslims I know did

Did you actually read the article, Gordy?

And when Waleed wrote it, how was he to know any of the "worst of the worst" was present?

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:19pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:48pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:39pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:31pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:23pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:55pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1466631101/95#95 date=1466746846]Perhaps you'd care to post some evidence that Waleed has defended Terrorists, Mechanic?   ::) ::) Waly thinks the Hyde Park riot was just a few oppressed muztards letting off steam. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-incredible-muslim-hulk-proves-to-be-no-friend-of-islam-either-20120916-260e8 Here's two of the top blokes he defended. Did he?  I don't see any names mentioned.  Were they at the Sydney protest?  Really? Methinks you are simply applying your prejudice.   You are no better than the Muslim protesters who hadn't even seen the video which they were protesting about.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ThT riot was a who's who of Australia's terrorists were there but it's ok apologise away Please present your proof of that, Gordy otherwise it's just your prejudice and bigotry showing through...again.    ::) ::) No proof?  How unsurprising, Gordy.  ::) ::) ::) So, the two Terrorists who you provided pictures of were not at the Sydney riot and were not defended by Waleed in his article. Thanks.   ::) ::) ::) Bahahahahahaha Sorry, I need a source for your photo for me to accept it as being genuine, Gordy. Took you long enough to produce it.  I wonder why?   ::) ::) Mate its common knowledge just Google it.

Still no source...   ::) ::)

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:52pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:39pm: Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it. The whole protest was arranged and attended by the worst of the Islamist community in Sydney.  Wally thought it a good idea to get ahead of things and defend them.  Now seriously I don't think he supports terrorists but he was way too quick to defend all things Islam, and this is one of those ones he should have unreservedly condemned with no excuses.  The Muslims I know did

If he's "defending" the protesters, you sure could have fooled me.  He is as critical of them as he is of the makers of the video.  Perhaps you need to reread his article again?   ::) ::) ::)

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:52pm: mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:39pm: Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it. The whole protest was arranged and attended by the worst of the Islamist community in Sydney.  Wally thought it a good idea to get ahead of things and defend them.  Now seriously I don't think he supports terrorists but he was way too quick to defend all things Islam, and this is one of those ones he should have unreservedly condemned with no excuses.  The Muslims I know did Did you actually read the article, Gordy? And when Waleed wrote it, how was he to know any of the "worst of the worst" was present?

We're not going to agree on this but here's my thoughts.

He's saying they're acting out because they're humiliated.
The Muslims I know who are indeed a very secular bunch think anyone who feels humiliated for the attention being aimed at ISLAMISTS actually DESERVE to be humiliated.

Mothra, you mentioned you were previously catholic. Do you take ownership or feel humiliated for Pell's actions and fall from grace? You shouldn't, unless you defend him.

You think I hate Muslims. In fact I don't. I hate Islamists and hope you do too.

Another point we'll disagree on, I think Islam is just the mother-lode of bad ideas, and is a perfect incubator for Islamisim and Jihadisim.

For some balance, I've never actually done anything in the real world to protest about the scary moozlims.
I was however active in my local school about ensuring ethics classes were available when the school chaplaincy program was introduced.
I also wrote 2 letters to my local member, our current PM complaining about the program.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

I hate Islamists and hope you do too.

You hope that someone else hates?

This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

We know you love Islamists.  It's a given.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given.

i hate islamics

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know ...

... you actively encourage others to hate.

I had you pegged from the start.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 7:58pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know ... ... you actively encourage others to hate. I had you pegged from the start.

Go away troll.

I like some of Canada's laws.

Public incitement of hatred

319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of

(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

I like some of Canada's laws. Public incitement of hatred 319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Troll

Ireland has interesting laws too.

(1) It shall be an offence for a person—

(a) to publish or distribute written material,

(b) to use words, behave or display written material—

(i) in any place other than inside a private residence, or

(ii) inside a private residence so that the words, behaviour or material are heard or seen by persons outside the residence,

or

(c) to distribute, show or play a recording of visual images or sounds,

if the written material, words, behaviour, visual images or sounds, as the case may be, are threatening, abusive or insulting and are intended or, having regard to all the circumstances, are likely to stir up hatred.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:01pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:52pm: mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:39pm: Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it. The whole protest was arranged and attended by the worst of the Islamist community in Sydney.  Wally thought it a good idea to get ahead of things and defend them.  Now seriously I don't think he supports terrorists but he was way too quick to defend all things Islam, and this is one of those ones he should have unreservedly condemned with no excuses.  The Muslims I know did Did you actually read the article, Gordy? And when Waleed wrote it, how was he to know any of the "worst of the worst" was present? We're not going to agree on this but here's my thoughts. He's saying they're acting out because they're humiliated. The Muslims I know who are indeed a very secular bunch think anyone who feels humiliated for the attention being aimed at ISLAMISTS actually DESERVE to be humiliated. Mothra, you mentioned you were previously catholic. Do you take ownership or feel humiliated for Pell's actions and fall from grace? You shouldn't, unless you defend him. You think I hate Muslims. In fact I don't. I hate Islamists and hope you do too. Another point we'll disagree on, I think Islam is just the mother-lode of bad ideas, and is a perfect incubator for Islamisim and Jihadisim. For some balance, I've never actually done anything in the real world to protest about the scary moozlims. I was however active in my local school about ensuring ethics classes were available when the school chaplaincy program was introduced. I also wrote 2 letters to my local member, our current PM complaining about the program.

But Gordy, the attention isn't just being heaped upon Islamists, it's dread over the whole of Islam. Look at this forum. You yourself routinely refer to Muslims.

Not Islamists. Muslims.

And I don't hate anyone. I hate ideas a D actions, not people.

As for my ownership over the actions of Cardinal Pell, I don't see how me being a Catholic when I was a kid confers me with any responsibility . I didn't feel obliged to comment. Isn't it interesting how we demand Muslim people apologise for all of their bad eggs? If they're not vocal enough, we get ever so cross with them.

And interesting about the school chaplaincy thing. I fought it tooth and nail too.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. i hate islamics

Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::)

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:01pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:52pm: mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 5:39pm: Im struggling to see Gordy's point. So some unsavoury people were at a protest and Waleed didn't tell them off for it. The whole protest was arranged and attended by the worst of the Islamist community in Sydney.  Wally thought it a good idea to get ahead of things and defend them.  Now seriously I don't think he supports terrorists but he was way too quick to defend all things Islam, and this is one of those ones he should have unreservedly condemned with no excuses.  The Muslims I know did Did you actually read the article, Gordy? And when Waleed wrote it, how was he to know any of the "worst of the worst" was present? We're not going to agree on this but here's my thoughts. He's saying they're acting out because they're humiliated. The Muslims I know who are indeed a very secular bunch think anyone who feels humiliated for the attention being aimed at ISLAMISTS actually DESERVE to be humiliated. Mothra, you mentioned you were previously catholic. Do you take ownership or feel humiliated for Pell's actions and fall from grace? You shouldn't, unless you defend him. You think I hate Muslims. In fact I don't. I hate Islamists and hope you do too. Another point we'll disagree on, I think Islam is just the mother-lode of bad ideas, and is a perfect incubator for Islamisim and Jihadisim. For some balance, I've never actually done anything in the real world to protest about the scary moozlims. I was however active in my local school about ensuring ethics classes were available when the school chaplaincy program was introduced. I also wrote 2 letters to my local member, our current PM complaining about the program. But Gordy, the attention isn't just being heaped upon Islamists, it's dread over the whole of Islam. Look at this forum. You yourself routinely refer to Muslims. Not Islamists. Muslims. And I don't hate anyone. I hate ideas a D actions, not people. As for my ownership over the actions of Cardinal Pell, I don't see how me being a Catholic when I was a kid confers me with any responsibility . I didn't feel obliged to comment. Isn't it interesting how we demand Muslim people apologise for all of their bad eggs? If they're not vocal enough, we get ever so cross with them. And interesting about the school chaplaincy thing. I fought it tooth and nail too.

Have you noticed my absence in the inbreeding type threads? I don't attack Muslims just the crazyacts of the idiology.

It's just a terminology thing when I refer to Muslims.  My  scorn is directed at the idiology. I make no apology for thinking it's a religion suited to 500 years ago and we should resign it to history and demand they accept secularism.

It's my opinion that conservative Islam is not far out of step with the Islamists but I guess on this we'll have to agree to disagree.

Why would you be surprised about my disgust for the school chaplaincy program?  I've made it pretty clear I'm a an avowed secularist.

One thing I promise you,  if Australia suddenly got an influx of American fundementilists I'll be equally as vocal.

Btw we had a great outcome with the ethics classes, our teachers are so good even some of the religious kids are attending.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:53pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. i hate islamics Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::)

Oi! Ahmed.

A question.

Islamist vs Muslim.

Same or different in your opinion?

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

Have you noticed my absence in the inbreeding type threads? I don't attack Muslims just the crazyacts of the idiology. It's just a terminology thing when I refer to Muslims.  My  scorn is directed at the idiology. I make no apology for thinking it's a religion suited to 500 years ago and we should resign it to history and demand they accept secularism. It's my opinion that conservative Islam is not far out of step with the Islamists but I guess on this we'll have to agree to disagree. Why would you be surprised about my disgust for the school chaplaincy program?  I've made it pretty clear I'm a an avowed secularist. One thing I promise you,  if Australia suddenly got an influx of American fundementilists I'll be equally as vocal.

I note you haven't demanded that we force all Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. to accept secularism, Gordy.

What about our own, home grown fundamentalists like Moses/Yadda/Sprintcyclist/etc.?  I haven't noticed you attacking them and their belief systems.  Why?

Looks to me like your attacks on religion are one sided.  Funny that.   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Have you noticed my absence in the inbreeding type threads? I don't attack Muslims just the crazyacts of the idiology. It's just a terminology thing when I refer to Muslims.  My  scorn is directed at the idiology. I make no apology for thinking it's a religion suited to 500 years ago and we should resign it to history and demand they accept secularism. It's my opinion that conservative Islam is not far out of step with the Islamists but I guess on this we'll have to agree to disagree. Why would you be surprised about my disgust for the school chaplaincy program?  I've made it pretty clear I'm a an avowed secularist. One thing I promise you,  if Australia suddenly got an influx of American fundementilists I'll be equally as vocal. I note you haven't demanded that we force all Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. to accept secularism, Gordy. What about our own, home grown fundamentalists like Moses/Yadda/Sprintcyclist/etc.?  I haven't noticed you attacking them and their belief systems.  Why? Looks to me like your attacks on religion are one sided.  Funny that.   ::) ::) ::)

Read about up a few lines about school chaplaincy you nong.

I wasn't surprised Gordy. Just interested. Im very passionate about the subject.

I've got a few tales to tell about it too.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:53pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. g i hate islamics Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::) Oi! Ahmed. A question. Islamist vs Muslim. Same or different in your opinion?

Wow. That's a really stupid question.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:53pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. i hate islamics Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::)

Here we go again!

Same as gun owners. Right?

It might surprise you to look up the ethnicity (read religion) with relation to some of the 'mass' shootings in the USA over the last 10 years.

Not an Aboriginal or Buddhist among 'em.

According to you, it's the gun-culture in the USA.

Nuffin' to do with Islam, right?

According to your rhetoric, guns and Islam are like oil and water, like rape and respect.

History proves otherwise. As a historian and statistician yourself, Brian, I think you might agree.

But haters gotta hate, according to Brian, and that's nothing to do with .... .

Anybody.

::)

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:53pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. i hate islamics Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::) Here we go again! Same as gun owners. Right? It might surprise you to look up the ethnicity (read religion) with relation to some of the 'mass' shootings in the USA over the last 10 years. Not an Aboriginal or Buddhist among 'em. According to you, it's the gun-culture in the USA. Nuffin' to do with Islam, right? According to your rhetoric, guns and Islam are like oil and water, like rape and respect. History proves otherwise. As a historian and statistician yourself, Brian, I think you might agree. But haters gotta hate, according to Brian, and that's nothing to do with .... . Anybody. ::)

Ummm please don't tell me you actually believe that BS  ;D

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:49pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Have you noticed my absence in the inbreeding type threads? I don't attack Muslims just the crazyacts of the idiology. It's just a terminology thing when I refer to Muslims.  My  scorn is directed at the idiology. I make no apology for thinking it's a religion suited to 500 years ago and we should resign it to history and demand they accept secularism. It's my opinion that conservative Islam is not far out of step with the Islamists but I guess on this we'll have to agree to disagree. Why would you be surprised about my disgust for the school chaplaincy program?  I've made it pretty clear I'm a an avowed secularist. One thing I promise you,  if Australia suddenly got an influx of American fundementilists I'll be equally as vocal. I note you haven't demanded that we force all Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. to accept secularism, Gordy. What about our own, home grown fundamentalists like Moses/Yadda/Sprintcyclist/etc.?  I haven't noticed you attacking them and their belief systems.  Why? Looks to me like your attacks on religion are one sided.  Funny that.   ::) ::) ::)

because
Quote:

.......Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/etc........

can all live in a secular society peaceably.

islam cannot

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

I wasn't surprised Gordy. Just interested. Im very passionate about the subject. I've got a few tales to tell about it too.

I've never had the god virus so I'm probably approaching it for different reasons.  I imagine as an ex catholic it's more of a protective thing?

Funny thing is even some of  the devout Christians at my daughter's school are against it as they want to control their religious intake.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:56pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:53pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. i hate islamics Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::) Here we go again! Same as gun owners. Right? It might surprise you to look up the ethnicity (read religion) with relation to some of the 'mass' shootings in the USA over the last 10 years. Not an Aboriginal or Buddhist among 'em. According to you, it's the gun-culture in the USA. Nuffin' to do with Islam, right? According to your rhetoric, guns and Islam are like oil and water, like rape and respect. History proves otherwise. As a historian and statistician yourself, Brian, I think you might agree. But haters gotta hate, according to Brian, and that's nothing to do with .... . Anybody. ::) Ummm please don't tell me you actually believe that BS  ;D

I believe in crediting people the benefit of their claims.

It has been claimed.

Ipso facto.

GordyL wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:52pm: I wasn't surprised Gordy. Just interested. Im very passionate about the subject. I've got a few tales to tell about it too. I've never had the god virus so I'm probably approaching it for different reasons.  I imagine as an ex catholic it's more of a protective thing? Funny thing is even some of  the devout Christians at my daughter's school are against it as they want to control their religious intake.

Protective yes but my objections are mostly ideological. I believe in secular education. There are religious schools for those who disagree with me.

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 10:43pm:

... There are religious schools for those who disagree with me. ...

Now THAT! Just frightened me!

Tell me I've taken it out of context.

Please!

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 11:11pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:43pm: ... There are religious schools for those who disagree with me. ... Now THAT! Just frightened me! Tell me I've taken it out of context. Please!

How are you interpreting it?

It is both straightforward and benign.

mothra wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 11:18pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:11pm: mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:43pm: ... There are religious schools for those who disagree with me. ... Now THAT! Just frightened me! Tell me I've taken it out of context. Please! How are you interpreting it? It is both straightforward and benign.

Seems to me it's been heard before.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 11:22pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:18pm: Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:11pm: mothra wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:43pm: ... There are religious schools for those who disagree with me. ... Now THAT! Just frightened me! Tell me I've taken it out of context. Please! How are you interpreting it? It is both straightforward and benign. Seems to me it's been heard before.

What? That parents who want a dubious education for their kids are free to send them to a religious school?

Im sure you have. It's not a new idea.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:53pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:49pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 7:41pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 6:23pm: I hate Islamists and hope you do too. You hope that someone else hates? This says an awful lot about you, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. We know you love Islamists.  It's a given. i hate islamics Really?  Why, Sprint?  What have Muslims ever done to make you hate them all, indiscriminately?   ::) Oi! Ahmed. A question. Islamist vs Muslim. Same or different in your opinion?

Different by degree, Lisa.   You need to look the words up if you don't understand them.   ::) ::)

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:49pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:44pm: Have you noticed my absence in the inbreeding type threads? I don't attack Muslims just the crazyacts of the idiology. It's just a terminology thing when I refer to Muslims.  My  scorn is directed at the idiology. I make no apology for thinking it's a religion suited to 500 years ago and we should resign it to history and demand they accept secularism. It's my opinion that conservative Islam is not far out of step with the Islamists but I guess on this we'll have to agree to disagree. Why would you be surprised about my disgust for the school chaplaincy program?  I've made it pretty clear I'm a an avowed secularist. One thing I promise you,  if Australia suddenly got an influx of American fundementilists I'll be equally as vocal. I note you haven't demanded that we force all Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/etc. to accept secularism, Gordy. What about our own, home grown fundamentalists like Moses/Yadda/Sprintcyclist/etc.?  I haven't noticed you attacking them and their belief systems.  Why? Looks to me like your attacks on religion are one sided.  Funny that.   ::) ::) ::) because Quote: .......Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/etc........ can all live in a secular society peaceably. islam cannot

Can't it?  Most Australian Muslims would disagree with that statement, Sprint.  That you have made it just shows how deep your bigotry runs.   

So, what created this bigotry, Sprint?   I'm interested to find out why you hate all Muslims so much.