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Message started by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:44pm

Title: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:44pm
TEL AVIV – As the Obama administration and Israel continue to negotiate a Memorandum of Understanding to govern military aid to the Jewish state, Donald Trump adviser David Friedman told an Israeli news channel on Wednesday that Israel would receive a better aid package under a future Trump presidency.
“Our view is that the aid package to Israel will certainly not go down, it in all likelihood will go up in a materiel amount because Israel must maintain a technological and military superiority within in the region,” Friedman told Israel’s Channel 2.
“I can’t give advice on how Israel should bargain and how it should develop its own strategy but certainly the Trump administration is not looking to cut back on foreign aid and will in all likely hood increase it significantly,” he stated.

Some have recommended that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wait until after President Obama’s term in office expires to finalize the renewal of a 10-year defense package.

Friedman’s comments come on the same day Trump launched a blistering attack on Hillary Clinton’s foreign and domestic policies. Trump said Clinton’s actions as secretary of state “opened the Pandora’s box of radical Islam” even while she “refuses to acknowledge the threat posed by Radical Islam.”
In a televised address from his hotel in New York’s SoHo neighborhood, Trump strongly criticized Clinton’s policies while she was Secretary of State, including her leadership role in advocating for the U.S.-led NATO intervention in Libya.

Trump also spotlighted Clinton’s role in allegedly denying security requests to the fated U.S. Special Mission in Benghazi, her support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and for the rebels targeting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, and her involvement with the Iran nuclear deal.

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:46pm
Regular anti-Semitic posters on this forum will be incensed even if not surprised.

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm
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Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:48pm
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.

What Trump is saying with this initiative is ... "Screw Palestine!"

How Trump will deal with Saudi Arabia, is going to be interesting to watch. They have been the snake-in-the-grass for years now with their funding of mosques, and hate preachers, and a kaleidoscope of other mischief.

 




Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:57pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:
TEL AVIV – As the Obama administration and Israel continue to negotiate a Memorandum of Understanding to govern military aid to the Jewish state, Donald Trump adviser David Friedman told an Israeli news channel on Wednesday that Israel would receive a better aid package under a future Trump presidency.
“Our view is that the aid package to Israel will certainly not go down, it in all likelihood will go up in a materiel amount because Israel must maintain a technological and military superiority within in the region,” Friedman told Israel’s Channel 2.
“I can’t give advice on how Israel should bargain and how it should develop its own strategy but certainly the Trump administration is not looking to cut back on foreign aid and will in all likely hood increase it significantly,” he stated.

Some have recommended that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wait until after President Obama’s term in office expires to finalize the renewal of a 10-year defense package.

Friedman’s comments come on the same day Trump launched a blistering attack on Hillary Clinton’s foreign and domestic policies. Trump said Clinton’s actions as secretary of state “opened the Pandora’s box of radical Islam” even while she “refuses to acknowledge the threat posed by Radical Islam.”
In a televised address from his hotel in New York’s SoHo neighborhood, Trump strongly criticized Clinton’s policies while she was Secretary of State, including her leadership role in advocating for the U.S.-led NATO intervention in Libya.

Trump also spotlighted Clinton’s role in allegedly denying security requests to the fated U.S. Special Mission in Benghazi, her support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and for the rebels targeting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, and her involvement with the Iran nuclear deal.


Really?  She "opened the Pandora’s box of radical Islam"?

What about the Bush, Republican administration's led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, Bogarde73?

Didn't they have anything to do with "opening the Pandora's box of radical Islam"?    ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm:
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.


Really?  I am sure that will come as a revelation to the Turks, the Cypriots and the Jordanians, Herbie...   ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm:
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.


Really?  I am sure that will come as a revelation to the Turks, the Cypriots and the Jordanians, Herbie...   ::) ::) ::)


;D ;D ;D

WhatEVER are we to do with you, Brian?

Hmmm ... ?

Hmmmmm ... ?

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Redneck on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm:
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.


Really?  I am sure that will come as a revelation to the Turks, the Cypriots and the Jordanians, Herbie...   ::) ::) ::)


One cant let the truth get in the way of a good story!  ;D

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:28pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm:
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.


Really?  I am sure that will come as a revelation to the Turks, the Cypriots and the Jordanians, Herbie...   ::) ::) ::)


One cant let the truth get in the way of a good story!  ;D


Turkey under Erdogan is hardly civilised, they are attacking and killing Kurdish Turks in Turkey with their military.

Erdogan said Assad must go for killing his own people, why has nobody said Erdogan should go for killing kurds and supporting the Islamic state

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm
Are you saying it's not true that it's the only western democracy in the region?
They even let the Arabs vote for god's sake - a big mistake.



Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:56pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm:
Are you saying it's not true that it's the only western democracy in the region?


Nope.  There are others.


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They even let the Arabs vote for god's sake - a big mistake.


IF they are citizens of Israel.  However, even then they are discouraged from voting by the ineffectualness of their voting for their candidates.   We have seen a steady drop over the last 30 years of Israeli Arab (and yes, there are Israeli Arabs) participation in the Israeli "democratic" process.  A process which has more to being determined by the minority of ultra-Orthodox Jews than anybody else.

Now, what is actually wrong with the Arabs voting, Bogarde, when they bother to vote, that is?

Personally, I believe the Israelis missed their chance to create a proper, multi-religious/multicultural state when they created Israel.   More to their shame and their regret.

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:04pm
Which are the other western style democracies in the ME?

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:33pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Which are the other western style democracies in the ME?


Read the thread, Bogard73.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by GordyL on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:56pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 4:32pm:
Are you saying it's not true that it's the only western democracy in the region?


Nope.  There are others.


Quote:
They even let the Arabs vote for god's sake - a big mistake.


IF they are citizens of Israel.  However, even then they are discouraged from voting by the ineffectualness of their voting for their candidates.   We have seen a steady drop over the last 30 years of Israeli Arab (and yes, there are Israeli Arabs) participation in the Israeli "democratic" process.  A process which has more to being determined by the minority of ultra-Orthodox Jews than anybody else.

Now, what is actually wrong with the Arabs voting, Bogarde, when they bother to vote, that is?

Personally, I believe the Israelis missed their chance to create a proper, multi-religious/multicultural state when they created Israel.   More to their shame and their regret.


The State of Israel has a population of approximately 8,463,500 inhabitants as of the end of 2015.[2] 74.9% percent of them are Jews (about 6,336,000 individuals), 20.7% are Arab (about 1,757,400 individuals), while the remaining 4.4% (about 370,000 individuals) are defined as "others"

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:59am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:33pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Which are the other western style democracies in the ME?


Read the thread, Bogard73.   ::) ::)


Which are the other western style democracies in the Middle East?
Can you name one?

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Culture Warrior on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:27am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm:
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.


Really?  I am sure that will come as a revelation to the Turks, the Cypriots and the Jordanians, Herbie...   ::) ::) ::)


It's debatable how Western Turkey is. The Republic model is perhaps Western, along with the Ataturk reforms, but that's where it ends.

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:37am

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:59am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:33pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Which are the other western style democracies in the ME?


Read the thread, Bogard73.   ::) ::)


Which are the other western style democracies in the Middle East?
Can you name one?


Brian has left the building.


Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:25pm
I feel like doing a Greggery here.

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Lord Herbert on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:33pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
I feel like doing a Greggery here.



You are required at the BREXIT desk, bogarde.

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:57pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 10:27am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 3:46pm:
Good news, bogarde.

It's the only Western civilisation in that Godforsaken part of the world.


Really?  I am sure that will come as a revelation to the Turks, the Cypriots and the Jordanians, Herbie...   ::) ::) ::)


It's debatable how Western Turkey is. The Republic model is perhaps Western, along with the Ataturk reforms, but that's where it ends.



Democracy?  YES/NO
Western Styled nation?   YES/NO
Western styled democracy?  YES/NO

Work it out.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2016 at 3:58pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 9:59am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:33pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Which are the other western style democracies in the ME?


Read the thread, Bogard73.   ::) ::)


Which are the other western style democracies in the Middle East?
Can you name one?


I have named three, Bogard73.    ::)

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by bogarde73 on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:28pm
Turkey? Jordan?
You have to be joking. Turkey is half way to being an Islamic Caliphate under Erdogan.
Jordan is nowhere near a democracy.
Cyprus? Last time I looked Cyprus was in the Med and divided into a Greek half and a Turkish half.
Not part of Middle East.

Have you got any others? Egypt maybe? Saudi Arabia?

Title: Re: Military aid to Israel will increase under Trump
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:45pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:28pm:
Turkey? Jordan?
You have to be joking. Turkey is half way to being an Islamic Caliphate under Erdogan.


In reality, it is a long way to being an "Islamic Caliphate", don't exaggerate, Bogard73.  It doesn't become you.   ::)


Quote:
Jordan is nowhere near a democracy.


It as close as Israel is.


Quote:
Cyprus? Last time I looked Cyprus was in the Med and divided into a Greek half and a Turkish half.
Not part of Middle East.


Actually it is.   It is enclosed by the Middle East and therefore part of it.


Quote:
By the mid-20th century a common definition of the Middle East encompassed the states or territories of Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and the various states and territories of Arabia proper (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain,
[Emphasis added]
[url=http://www.britannica.com/place/Middle-East]Source[/url]


Quote:
Have you got any others? Egypt maybe? Saudi Arabia?


Why mention them when I didn't, Bogard73?    ::) ::) ::)

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