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Message started by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 3:27pm

Title: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 3:27pm
Dunno why or who asked for it, but what do you reckon?

Ill duplicate this in the General section.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 3:27pm
Poll added.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 25th, 2016 at 4:31pm
Guess FD is tired of running OzPol?

My board is open to all who like genuine debate and no stupid changes.

polanimal.com.au

Change the ‘e’ to an ‘a’

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2016 at 4:58pm
Posts typically disappear from the front page of the politicians suck board in 12 hours. I wet back through 20 pages on that board. That only took me back to June 5 this year, and that is after removing a heap of posts.

Any topics about state politics will just get lost in that. Same with the European and American stuff.

One option I am considering is moving politicians suck into the regional category and calling it federal politics.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:26pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 4:58pm:
Posts typically disappear from the front page of the politicians suck board in 12 hours. I wet back through 20 pages on that board. That only took me back to June 5 this year, and that is after removing a heap of posts.

Any topics about state politics will just get lost in that. Same with the European and American stuff.

One option I am considering is moving politicians suck into the regional category and calling it federal politics.


I know what you mean, I use the latest 20 posts thingo an even that often only covers an hour or sos posts.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:01pm
I don't mind it ... Aussies just upset he didn't think of it :D :D

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:01pm:
I don't mind it ... Aussies just upset he didn't think of it :D :D


Not 'upset' at all.  Think it is unnecessary, especially lacking any request or requirement for it.  P_N has resigned as a consequence of this and the removal of some Threads which were stickied in the General Section.  Not sure what that is all about.  Not sure what any of this is all about.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:07pm:
P_N has resigned as a consequence of this and the removal of some Threads which were stickied in the General Section



PN has resigned in protest to FD relaxing some of the rules. It has nothing to do with the new format.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Not sure what that is all about.  Not sure what any of this is all about.



Maybe FD is preparing to sell the site. Perhaps you can make him an offer on it?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:07pm:
Not sure what that is all about.  Not sure what any of this is all about.



Maybe FD is preparing to sell the site. Perhaps you can make him an offer on it?





Title: Re: New Format
Post by Greens_Win on Jun 25th, 2016 at 8:07pm
Can the NT Forum be put with SA, like ACT with NSW ... so NZ Politics can claim that particular spot please.


Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2016 at 8:08pm
why is cods in handcuffs?

I didn't realise you were so kinky :D :D :D

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 8:37pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
why is cods in handcuffs?

I didn't realise you were so kinky :D :D :D


cods is great at 'kink.'

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Leftwinger on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 8:08pm:
why is cods in handcuffs?


They ran out of straightjackets ?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 4:58pm:
Posts typically disappear from the front page of the politicians suck board in 12 hours. I wet back through 20 pages on that board. That only took me back to June 5 this year, and that is after removing a heap of posts.

Any topics about state politics will just get lost in that. Same with the European and American stuff.

One option I am considering is moving politicians suck into the regional category and calling it federal politics.


Why not just leave it where it is and call it Federal Politics....After all this is Oz Politics Forum and Federal Politics is what the site is about IMO???

:-? :-? :-?



Title: Re: New Format
Post by Ajax on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:38pm
New section should be between member run boards and political parties...... ;)

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:46pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 4:58pm:
Posts typically disappear from the front page of the politicians suck board in 12 hours. I wet back through 20 pages on that board. That only took me back to June 5 this year, and that is after removing a heap of posts.

Any topics about state politics will just get lost in that. Same with the European and American stuff.

One option I am considering is moving politicians suck into the regional category and calling it federal politics.


Why not just leave it where it is and call it Federal Politics....After all this is Oz Politics Forum and Federal Politics is what the site is about IMO???

:-? :-? :-?


It seems to belong better in the regional category. But I'll consider this option too.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Karnal on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:50pm
Can we get a Pakistani board, Aussie? It might help those who suffer from homesickness.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:52pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Can we get a Pakistani board, Aussie? It might help those who suffer from homesickness.


Maybe even a Homesickness Board to match?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Wolseley on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:24pm
I would question the need for the groups in "Regional Politics".  It makes it more time consuming to find posts that may interest you (most people would be interested in the political affairs of states other than their own) and it's going to give the moderators a lot more work in having to move threads around the forum due to them having been posted in the wrong section.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:28pm

Wolseley wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
I would question the need for the groups in "Regional Politics".  It makes it more time consuming to find posts that may interest you (most people would be interested in the political affairs of states other than their own) and it's going to give the moderators a lot more work in having to move threads around the forum due to them having been posted in the wrong section.


Agreed, and that task will now fall on the shoulders of freediver as it was general perceptions_now who moved Threads around.

I see no-one (including freediver) has yet explained the need for any change.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Karnal on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:42pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Can we get a Pakistani board, Aussie? It might help those who suffer from homesickness.


Maybe even a Homesickness Board to match?


That would be racist, Aussie. A Paki board wouldn't be racist - Pakis aren't a race.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:43pm

Wolseley wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
I would question the need for the groups in "Regional Politics".  It makes it more time consuming to find posts that may interest you (most people would be interested in the political affairs of states other than their own) and it's going to give the moderators a lot more work in having to move threads around the forum due to them having been posted in the wrong section.


Would you mind demonstrating for us how easy it is to find a thread about state politics in the politicians suck board?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
I would question the need for the groups in "Regional Politics".  It makes it more time consuming to find posts that may interest you (most people would be interested in the political affairs of states other than their own) and it's going to give the moderators a lot more work in having to move threads around the forum due to them having been posted in the wrong section.


Would you mind demonstrating for us how easy it is to find a thread about state politics in the politicians suck board?


Took me five seconds.

Link.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:55pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Can we get a Pakistani board, Aussie? It might help those who suffer from homesickness.


Maybe even a Homesickness Board to match?


That would be racist, Aussie. A Paki board wouldn't be racist - Pakis aren't a race.


No they just shag 11 year old girls and have their community refuse to help the police prosecute them...
Despicable pr.cks that mob.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Leftwinger on Jun 25th, 2016 at 11:07pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
Can we get a Pakistani board, Aussie? It might help those who suffer from homesickness.


Maybe even a Homesickness Board to match?


That would be racist, Aussie. A Paki board wouldn't be racist - Pakis aren't a race.


No they just shag 11 year old girls and have their community refuse to help the police prosecute them...
Despicable pr.cks that mob.


I thought you didn't condone sluring races Andrei ?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:33am

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
I would question the need for the groups in "Regional Politics".  It makes it more time consuming to find posts that may interest you (most people would be interested in the political affairs of states other than their own) and it's going to give the moderators a lot more work in having to move threads around the forum due to them having been posted in the wrong section.


Would you mind demonstrating for us how easy it is to find a thread about state politics in the politicians suck board?


Took me five seconds.

Link.


You used the search didn't you - ie not by browsing the politicians board.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by LEUT Bigvicfella (RTD) on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:03am

John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:01pm:
I don't mind it ... Aussies just upset he didn't think of it :D :D



Having initially voted I didn't like it, I have now sort off changed my mind.   It does serve to keep posts on the page a bit more and for the extra effort in switching between fora is easier to read and comment.   Is it worth the effort though to have to constantly move posts for PolSux into state based forums?
Should the POLSUX forum be disbanded and force posters to use the state based ones?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:20am
The polsux forum has effectively become the federal politics forum. That's pretty much all that was on there anyway.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:16am
Godday Freediver,

Why dont you change the "Newest 20 Board Topics" to say 50 or 100.

I usually go there first every time I come online to see whats been happening, I often then us view list of 50 to see more if I havent been online for a long period (eg overnight).

I seldom go searching through the boards unless trying to find a particular topic or am bored sh1tless.

Just a thought!

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:16am:
Godday Freediver,

Why dont you change the "Newest 20 Board Topics" to say 50 or 100.

I usually go there first every time I come online to see whats been happening, I often then us view list of 50 to see more if I havent been online for a long period (eg overnight).

I seldom go searching through the boards unless trying to find a particular topic or am bored sh1tless.

Just a thought!


I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:19am

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:20am:
The polsux forum has effectively become the federal politics forum. That's pretty much all that was on there anyway.



I had always considered it a federal politics forum anyway.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:20am

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am:
I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.



cool trick .. I don't know why you kept it a secret for so long  :D :D

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am:
I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.



cool trick .. I don't know why you kept it a secret for so long  :D :D


Ripper I didnt know that either.

What I was suggesting was you can (I think) make the one that shows the latest 20 when you click in the forum, show 50 or 100 etc, which would bring up that number as a starting point without the user having to fart around.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am

Quote:
I had always considered it a federal politics forum anyway.


So where did you put state politics?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:24am

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am:

Quote:
I had always considered it a federal politics forum anyway.


So where did you put state politics?



in the same spot ... there was no where else to put it

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:24am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am:
I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.



cool trick .. I don't know why you kept it a secret for so long  :D :D


Ripper I didnt know that either.

What I was suggesting was you can (I think) make the one that shows the latest 20 when you click in the forum, show 50 or 100 etc, which would bring up that number as a starting point without the user having to fart around.


20 is the starting point.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27am

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:24am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am:
I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.



cool trick .. I don't know why you kept it a secret for so long  :D :D


Ripper I didnt know that either.

What I was suggesting was you can (I think) make the one that shows the latest 20 when you click in the forum, show 50 or 100 etc, which would bring up that number as a starting point without the user having to fart around.


20 is the starting point.


Thats what I thought.

50 or 100 would be way better if others on here are like me and spend most of their time looking in that area to see whats changing etc!



Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:28am
You can set it to whatever you want.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:29am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:24am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am:
I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.



cool trick .. I don't know why you kept it a secret for so long  :D :D


Ripper I didnt know that either.

What I was suggesting was you can (I think) make the one that shows the latest 20 when you click in the forum, show 50 or 100 etc, which would bring up that number as a starting point without the user having to fart around.


20 is the starting point.


Thats what I thought.

50 or 100 would be way better if others on here are like me and spend most of their time looking in that area to see whats changing etc!



that's where I always go ... I rarely access the home page or the 'forum' page

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:32am

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:29am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:24am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:17am:
I think you can edit the URL directly, then bookmark it.



cool trick .. I don't know why you kept it a secret for so long  :D :D


Ripper I didnt know that either.

What I was suggesting was you can (I think) make the one that shows the latest 20 when you click in the forum, show 50 or 100 etc, which would bring up that number as a starting point without the user having to fart around.


20 is the starting point.


Thats what I thought.

50 or 100 would be way better if others on here are like me and spend most of their time looking in that area to see whats changing etc!



that's where I always go ... I rarely access the home page or the 'forum' page


I think you guys are talking about setting your own,

I am suggesting changing the Forum page setting to show 50 or 100 most recent automatically

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:36am
This would allow you to scroll up to the boards if needed but see the latest 100 posts down the bottom

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:40am
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=recentlist;display=50

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:44am

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:40am:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=recentlist;display=50


You are not listening freediver.

I know one can do as you show in that link.

BUT

I think the Forum Home page should show 50 or 100 recents down the bottom thats all, so you can monitor lots of topics  and easily scroll up to the boards to start a new topic for example

It is changeable in Admin I am sure!

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:59am
Thanks for the suggestion.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:00am

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:59am:
Thanks for the suggestion.


No worries thanks!

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 12:08pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:33am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
I would question the need for the groups in "Regional Politics".  It makes it more time consuming to find posts that may interest you (most people would be interested in the political affairs of states other than their own) and it's going to give the moderators a lot more work in having to move threads around the forum due to them having been posted in the wrong section.


Would you mind demonstrating for us how easy it is to find a thread about state politics in the politicians suck board?


Took me five seconds.

Link.


You used the search didn't you - ie not by browsing the politicians board.


Of course.  What is so wrong with that?   Fact is I found it in five seconds.......NOT using the useless search function here.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 1:35pm
I was trying to make it relevant to the discussion of the new format. It wasn't a google context Aussie.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:13pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 1:35pm:
I was trying to make it relevant to the discussion of the new format. It wasn't a google context Aussie.


You asked:


Quote:
Would you mind demonstrating for us how easy it is to find a thread about state politics in the politicians suck board


I searched.  The answer is ~ easy, five seconds.

That was the context.  You still have not explained why these changes had to be made, particularly given there is a clear majority who do not like it.  Do you care about Member input?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:24pm
I hope you are claiming penalty rates today freediver with all this moving going on!

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:25pm

Quote:
particularly given there is a clear majority who do not like it


How do you know this?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:30pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:25pm:

Quote:
particularly given there is a clear majority who do not like it


How do you know this?


I asked.

Link.

You will be able to see who voted and which way they voted.  Neither I nor mere Members can.  You will also be able to see whether socks have contaminated the vote.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:32pm
You started a poll right here in this thread Aussie. According to that one, the majority like it.

How many different polls did you start?

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:32pm:
You started a poll right here in this thread Aussie. According to that one, the majority like it.

How many different polls did you start?


Two.  And, from what my screen tells me, no-one has voted here, in this Thread.  Maybe that is because I have not voted in this Thread, and the vote does not appear.  (Edit.....I'll now vote....and see what I can see.)

I started the other Thread because a great deal of active Members have been banned from accessing Feedback.

(See the OP of this Thread.)

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Redneck on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:41pm
P1ss off Aussie stop trying to be a control freak!

Freediver is the head sherang and can do as he pleases


Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:43pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:41pm:
P1ss off Aussie stop trying to be a control freak!

Freediver is the head sherang and can do as he pleases


Of course he can and Members are can indicate a preference as they please.  I'm sure FD appreciates all feedback.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:45pm
So you started two polls, and got a 'clear majority' by only considering one of them after only a small number of people could be bothered voting?


Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 2:45pm:
So you started two polls, and got a 'clear majority' by only considering one of them after only a small number of people could be bothered voting?


One can do but what one can do, freediver, and come to conclusions based only on what one sees.  You can see who has voted which way, and then the overall outcome will be known to you.  Some people may have voted in each Poll.  I don't know, but you will.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:28pm
Only if I look Aussie.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:28pm:
Only if I look Aussie.


How about you have a look then?  Mr Hicks does, and it seems, with great ease.  You will know what your Members actually want if you do that.  You will also be able to see whether socks have contaminated any Poll, or whether any "block" vote from anywhere is in effect.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by freediver on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:45pm
Thanks for the suggestion Aussie.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by The Mechanic on Jun 27th, 2016 at 9:28pm
too many pages and boards.. I can't keep up with it all..

not all of us are on the dole and sit on this site for half the day ..  :(

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 27th, 2016 at 10:36pm
freediver?  What say ye?

Link.

Seems pretty decisive to me.

Title: Re: New Format
Post by Aussie on Jun 28th, 2016 at 10:46pm
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