Kill him.

Detectives had been searching for Mustafa Kayirici, 26, since June 19 after a 22-year-old woman was allegedly sexually assaulted and robbed in the CBD.

Five days later, on Friday, he allegedly kidnapped a 13-year-old girl in Parramatta. It is understood Mr Kayirici did not know the teen but managed to lure her to him.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-charged-after-two-alleged-sex-attacks-in-sydney-20160626-gps0zp.html

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I think they caught him.....

killing is a bit grim... but certainly many years behind bars..

13 year old...disgusting!

Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids!

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:36pm:

I think they caught him..... killing is a bit grim... but certainly many years behind bars..

But will never happen, some socialist do-gooder judge will find some excuse to make sure he is out as soon as possible.

He is a muslim so he probably thinks raping white children is acceptable, that's gotta cut is sentence in half.

And don't forget in this country no matter what the sentence it is only really half of what the judge says and they are back out on the street, to have another go.  >:( >:(

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 4:39pm:

13 year old...disgusting! Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids!

I'm sure Mothra/Greggy will be along shortly to apologise for him...  ::)

And Sydney is full of clones of this shyte.

Put this scum away for a long time

and tattoo a target on his arse

and give him a taste of what

his so called faith demonises

publicly yet condones on the QT.

Quote:

"The police were attempting to remove him from the car and he was putting up one hell of a fight against 20 police." He was charged with a string of offences, including aggravated sexual assault, detain for advantage and kidnapping. The matter returns to Central Local Court on June 30.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-charged-after-two-alleged-sex-attacks-in-sydney-20160626-gps0zp.html#ixzz4CfckpCEu



If found guilty -
hang em and hang em high.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 4:39pm: 13 year old...disgusting! Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids! I'm sure Mothra/Greggy will be along shortly to apologise for him...  ::)

They will tell us he is innocent because this muslim claimed he was innocent.

Little peccas favourite immigrants using a gun to rape and rob people, I bet that gun was unregistered and the offender was unlicensed.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 4:39pm: 13 year old...disgusting! Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids! I'm sure Mothra/Greggy will be along shortly to apologise for him...  ::)

Why would I apologise for him? He is filth.

I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

Does the neck tattoo say "Cut Along Dotted Line?

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 4:39pm: 13 year old...disgusting! Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids! I'm sure Mothra/Greggy will be along shortly to apologise for him...  ::)

THAT IS WAY BELOW THE BELT MOR ON !  >:(

We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders.

It was getting a bit embarrassing.

Hypothetical:

Would any of you vote for a hang em high party at the next election?


One that promises to hang:
murderers
rapists
pedophiles &
terrorists

Yet another reason why people from the SW of Sydney should need to apply for a visa to visit Bondi.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. It was getting a bit embarrassing.

We never did.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

Does the neck tattoo say "Cut Along Dotted Line?

Nah it's where the hangman should put the noose

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Hypothetical: Would any of you vote for a hang em high party at the next election? One that promises to hang: murderers rapists pedophiles & terrorists

Nope. Absolutely opposed to the death penalty in all situations.

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm: Hypothetical: Would any of you vote for a hang em high party at the next election? One that promises to hang: murderers rapists pedophiles & terrorists Nope. Absolutely opposed to the death penalty in all situations.

Really? -

you have the forgiveness approaching that of Jesus & even master Light.

they should just chop his nuts off with a blunt razor and then disinfect the area with metho. Then jail him for 20 yrs.

I'll put money on it he's a Muslim.

What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females.

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:31pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:36pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 4:39pm: 13 year old...disgusting! Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids! I'm sure Mothra/Greggy will be along shortly to apologise for him...  ::) THAT IS WAY BELOW THE BELT MOR ON !  >:(

are you going to apologies for them as well Red?  :(

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:31pm: President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:36pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 4:39pm: 13 year old...disgusting! Put him in with the hardened crims that have kids! I'm sure Mothra/Greggy will be along shortly to apologise for him...  ::) THAT IS WAY BELOW THE BELT MOR ON !  >:( are you going to apologies for them as well Red?  :(

Mothra is always up for an apology.

John Smith wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 7:43pm:

they should just chop his nuts off with a blunt razor and then disinfect the area with metho. Then jail him for 20 yrs.

Life. He's only 27. At 47 he'd have a rape or two left in him. Lock him up with Skaff and they can rape each other.

What I'm really  curious about is how many times he's been slapped on the wrist for other serious crimes.

GordyL wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 7:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:43pm: they should just chop his nuts off with a blunt razor and then disinfect the area with metho. Then jail him for 20 yrs. Life. He's only 27. At 47 he'd have a rape or two left in him. Lock him up with Skaff and they can rape each other. What I'm really  curious about is how many times he's been slapped on the wrist for other serious crimes.

not once they chop his nuts off he won't.

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm: Hypothetical: Would any of you vote for a hang em high party at the next election? One that promises to hang: murderers rapists pedophiles & terrorists Nope. Absolutely opposed to the death penalty in all situations.

If guilty what sentence would you hand down?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 7:47pm:

What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females.

The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Hypothetical: Would any of you vote for a hang em high party at the next election? One that promises to hang: murderers rapists pedophiles & terrorists

Hang em? Ee-gad, no. We need to erect them to high office.

High, so to speak.

Setanta wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is.

Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them.

Miam miam, no?

Karnal wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no?

He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them.

She's from Granville.  That's what they call foreplay.

GordyL wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:12pm: Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them. She's from Granville.  That's what they call foreplay.

;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:16pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:15pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:12pm: Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them. She's from Granville.  That's what they call foreplay. ;D ;D ;D

For Karnal https://youtu.be/lPsa8MJU_50

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them.

Now now, Homo, the article said he lured her. Was it the beard, or perhaps Lebanese sweets?

What do you use, dear?

Asking them to get you a beer doesn’t count.

GordyL wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:12pm: Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them. She's from Granville.  That's what they call foreplay.

We have Abla sweets. Homo shows them his Mum’s broken sofa bed and a tube of Wet Stuff.

Culture, innit.

Karnal wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:15pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:12pm: Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them. She's from Granville.  That's what they call foreplay. We have Abla sweets. Homo shows them his Mum’s broken sofa bed and a tube of Wet Stuff. Culture, innit.

If Karnal's  econovan is rocking, don't bother knocking.

Karnal wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:33pm: Hypothetical: Would any of you vote for a hang em high party at the next election? One that promises to hang: murderers rapists pedophiles & terrorists Hang em? Ee-gad, no. We need to erect them to high office. High, so to speak.

Hang em high

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:29pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:15pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:12pm: Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:11pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:47pm: What do ya think go-gooders. Muslim??? Looks like he doesn't have much respect for females. The tattoos say he not a very pious one if he is. Ah yes, but a beard like that explains how he lures them. Miam miam, no? He didn't lure them dear. He abducted them. She's from Granville.  That's what they call foreplay. We have Abla sweets. Homo shows them his Mum’s broken sofa bed and a tube of Wet Stuff. Culture, innit. If Karnal's  econovan is rocking, don't bother knocking.

Don’t bother knocking on Homo’s unregistered 1987 Ford Laser.Just talk to him through the broken back window.

If he offers to show you his porno stash, bargain him down. Get him to grow a beard and give you a lady’s finger.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm: We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. It was getting a bit embarrassing. We never did.

wrong. statistics are routinely kept in all states , just not available to the public.

ian wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:43pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm: We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. It was getting a bit embarrassing. We never did. wrong. statistics are routinely kept in all states , just not available to the public.

Then, if that is the case, how does anyone "of the public" know?

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

ian wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:43pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm: We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. It was getting a bit embarrassing. We never did. wrong. statistics are routinely kept in all states , just not available to the public. Then, if that is the case, how does anyone "of the public" know?

They dont as afar as i am aware. Thats the point.

The media used to report the ethnicity of offenders.  Now they never do.

Black Orchid wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:50pm:

The media used to report the ethnicity of offenders.  Now they never do.

Schmedia reports do not equal statistics. 

ian wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:36pm: ian wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:43pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm: We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. It was getting a bit embarrassing. We never did. wrong. statistics are routinely kept in all states , just not available to the public. Then, if that is the case, how does anyone "of the public" know? They dont as afar as i am aware. Thats the point.

Correct, Ian.

Why is it we can keep statistics on all sorts of personal information, freely available on line at the ABS, but the ethnic identity of offenders statistics are kept firmly guarded from the public via lock and key.

The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats.

Why? Well even Lisa jones could probably work that one out.

Quote:

The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats.

Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends? 

Explain, please.

We found an 11 yo girl today, 5pm, almost dark. Should have kept her, my son always wanted a sister, but we took her home. She was hiding behind bushes acting very strangely so I stayed put and my wife went to talk to her and as she got close saw her crying. She had been at her cousin's place and they were having a fight, she was scared and bolted.

Long story short, we stopped half way back to her cousins place, maccas, my wife went and bought some chips, I went home got my son, his car and phone, then took her back to her cousin's place, no-one home, took her home to her mum who was extremely worried and hugged my wife with tears.

Our good deed for the day.

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please.

There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it.

And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice.

For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters

Easy to speculate and indulge your personal vendetta/agenda as you do so.

No evidence whatsoever, just a self serving explanation for the absence of evidence.

Yay!

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters

I once mentioned that Lebanese have caused a kerfuffle in Sydney once or twice,  Karnal leapt galantly to their defence and gave me a history lesson from the 50s about Abe Saffron

Aussie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters Easy to speculate and indulge your personal vendetta/agenda as you do so. No evidence whatsoever, just a self serving explanation for the absence of evidence. Yay!

I'm pretty sure that at least in WA asking at least religion was part of the lockup process. I don't doubt they noted other other information.

Setanta wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:25pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters Easy to speculate and indulge your personal vendetta/agenda as you do so. No evidence whatsoever, just a self serving explanation for the absence of evidence. Yay! I'm pretty sure that at least in WA asking at least religion was part of the lockup process. I don't doubt they noted other other information.

All demographic information is requested and recorded in the induction process, this process is similar in all states.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders.

Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::)


Quote:

It was getting a bit embarrassing.

Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::)

GordyL wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters I once mentioned that Lebanese have caused a kerfuffle in Sydney once or twice,  Karnal leapt galantly to their defence and gave me a history lesson from the 50s about Abe Saffron

And while we were watching the Ted Mulry gang on Countdown, you were getting your bris in Ontario.

History, innit.

GordyL wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters I once mentioned that Lebanese have caused a kerfuffle in Sydney once or twice,  Karnal leapt galantly to their defence and gave me a history lesson from the 50s about Abe Saffron

I can see how that would be relevant. For sure.

Quote:

"The police were attempting to remove him from the car and he was putting up one hell of a fight against 20 police." He was charged with a string of offences, including aggravated sexual assault, detain for advantage and kidnapping. The matter returns to Central Local Court on June 30.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-charged-after-two-alleged-sex-attacks-in-sydney-20160626-gps0zp.html#ixzz4CfckpCEu



If found guilty -
hang em and hang em high.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDgZiyfRIdU

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:23pm:

ian wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:39pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:36pm: ian wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:31pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:43pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm: We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. It was getting a bit embarrassing. We never did. wrong. statistics are routinely kept in all states , just not available to the public. Then, if that is the case, how does anyone "of the public" know? They dont as afar as i am aware. Thats the point. Correct, Ian. Why is it we can keep statistics on all sorts of personal information, freely available on line at the ABS, but the ethnic identity of offenders statistics are kept firmly guarded from the public via lock and key. The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Why? Well even Lisa jones could probably work that one out.

Oh hello stalker!

Have you worked out which wave feminism is in yet?

;D

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:32pm: We no longer keep statistics on the ethnicity of offenders. Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::) Quote: It was getting a bit embarrassing. Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::)

It's wonderful that you're helping Nicole out.

She needs help in understanding a lot of simple concepts.

Ethnicity is only one such concept.  ;D

Setanta wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:19pm:

We found an 11 yo girl today, 5pm, almost dark. Should have kept her, my son always wanted a sister, but we took her home. She was hiding behind bushes acting very strangely so I stayed put and my wife went to talk to her and as she got close saw her crying. She had been at her cousin's place and they were having a fight, she was scared and bolted. Long story short, we stopped half way back to her cousins place, maccas, my wife went and bought some chips, I went home got my son, his car and phone, then took her back to her cousin's place, no-one home, took her home to her mum who was extremely worried and hugged my wife with tears. Our good deed for the day.

Ahhh, now that's something worth reading.

Good on you!  :)

GordyL wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 3:52pm:

Kill him. Detectives had been searching for Mustafa Kayirici, 26, since June 19 after a 22-year-old woman was allegedly sexually assaulted and robbed in the CBD. Five days later, on Friday, he allegedly kidnapped a 13-year-old girl in Parramatta. It is understood Mr Kayirici did not know the teen but managed to lure her to him. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-charged-after-two-alleged-sex-attacks-in-sydney-20160626-gps0zp.html

I'm sure his parents still think he's a good boy.

>:(

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 7:44pm:

I'll put money on it he's a Muslim.

Duh!

Of course he's a Muslim.

He's also an extremist/Jihadist.

Karnal wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:42pm:

GordyL wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:28pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters I once mentioned that Lebanese have caused a kerfuffle in Sydney once or twice,  Karnal leapt galantly to their defence and gave me a history lesson from the 50s about Abe Saffron And while we were watching the Ted Mulry gang on Countdown, you were getting your bris in Ontario. History, innit.

I had to Google bris. Stop thinking about my penis or a Granville Muslim will throw acid in your face

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

[ Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::)

thats a stupid claim.

ian wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: [ Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::) thats a stupid claim.

I wonder how rates of indigenous incarceration is calculated if no records are kept. Maybe they just go by the 'vibe' of where a prisoner seems to be from?

Did the ABS just make this shiiit up?

In 2012, the Australian Bureau of 
Statistics (ABS) reported that Aboriginal
and Torres Strait Islander adults were
imprisoned at a rate 15 times higher
than that of non-Indigenous prisoners

https://www.lawcouncil.asn.au/lawcouncil/images/LCA-PDF/Indigenous_Imprisonment_Fact_Sheet.pdf

Quote:

"The police were attempting to remove him from the car and he was putting up one hell of a fight against 20 police." He was charged with a string of offences, including aggravated sexual assault, detain for advantage and kidnapping. The matter returns to Central Local Court on June 30.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-charged-after-two-alleged-sex-attacks-in-sydney-20160626-gps0zp.html#ixzz4CfckpCEu





Many among the moslem community can argue [and would agree among themselves] that, in committing the alleged offenses, as a moslem, this individual did nothing wrong!!

And argue, that his 'folly',    .....was in being apprehended, by the kuffar!


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


ISLAM sanctions the rape of non-moslem women.

And when numbers of moslems among a non-moslem community have grown considerably, moslems will begin to behave in ways which cause the fear ['respect'] of moslems, among a non-moslem community!

And the rape of non-moslem women, is one sanctioned way, which helps moslem [men] to spread a fear [i.e. defacto 'respect'] for ISLAM.



EVERY DEVOUT MOSLEMS KNOWS, AND UNDERSTANDS,       .....that the rape of non-moslem women can be 'RELIGIOUSLY' justified, among moslems, on at least two levels;

1/ the rape of non-moslem women will cause a degree of terror [I.E. the  [i.e. defacto 'respect'] for ISLAM], among Allah's enemies.
2/ the rape of non-moslem women offers moslem men a carnal pleasure [i.e. an immediate 'reward'] for their work in spreading fear among Allah's enemies.


The rape of non-moslem women offers a win, win, for ISLAM.


The rape of non-moslem women is regraded among 'ISLAMISTS', as a contribution, of fighting in Allah's cause!

Google;
rape jihad


Allah's Messenger said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220


Allah's Messenger said,
".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062



ISLAM preaches [that when numbers of moslems among a non-moslem community is considerable], moslems should behave in ways which cause the fear ['respect'] of moslems, among a non-moslem community!

i.e. Moslems/ISLAM want all non-moslems to nurture a sense of 'respect' for the wishes of moslems.

A respect which is founded, within a fear of the moslem ability [i.e. a 'potency'] to act to punish those who 'offend' moslems!





Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1331652696/0#0

Quote:

ISLAM OFFERS WORLDLY [and carnal] MOTIVATION, IN THIS LIFE... The reward which ISLAM offers to moslem men, in this world, in the ideal ISLAMIC world, is the promise of 'lawful' rape, 'lawful' plunder, and a 'lawful' absolute authority over their own direct family, and 'lawful' direct control over those non-moslems [...enslaved by moslem terror], that Allah is kind enough to allocate to them. To my eyes, ISLAM appears to 'legitimize' the oppression, enslavement, and robbery, of non-moslems, ...BECAUSE THEY ARE, NON-MOSLEMS. "....those who reject Allah have no protector." Koran 47.008 v. 8-11 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. " Koran 9.29 e.g. Women, as war booty... "..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..." Koran 4.22-24 "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..." Koran 33.50 e.g. And these ISLAMIC doctrines [relating to non-moslem captive women] are applied in the world today, by moslems... Pakistan: Christian girls and women, some already married, abducted and forcibly converted to Islam The marriages of captives are abrogated, by order of the Qur'an: "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you" (4:24). http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/pakistan-christian-girls-some-already-married-abducted-and-forcibly-converted.html n.b. It is clear that critics of ISLAM can present irrefutable proof [being ISLAMIC texts, and the example of the conduct of moslem men today], showing how immoral ISLAM is, as a philosophy.... The persecution of non-moslem minorities, by moslems, in majority moslem nations is easy to explore and to prove. Google; persecution in muslim countries

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 11:36pm:

Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::)

Religion is a part of one's ethnicity.

Correct.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 10:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::) Religion is a part of one's ethnicity.

So, people with no religion have no ethnicity?

ian wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Correct.

Ignorance is ian's finest quality.

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 10:56am: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::) Religion is a part of one's ethnicity. So, people with no religion have no ethnicity?

Read the comment again. Damn, youre thick. As an example, middle eastern people often declare themselves as Muslim when asked where they are from.

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 10:56am: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::) Religion is a part of one's ethnicity. So, people with no religion have no ethnicity?

Ethnicity covers a numbers of things. Religion is one of them.

I think this is predominantly a male issue in general.  The need to feel in power over women in particular.    The said person would have done the crime regardless of his religious affiliation.  What I am concerned about is that many people here seemed to think that only non white ethnic man is involved, or involved in higher proportion.  This is not true.  As in Australia, we still have a royal commission into institutionalized sexual abuse / rape that had been ongoing for years.   And lets not forget, the worst pedophile in history - a man with an online handle of Lux, and his associate who operates out of Indonesia against vulnerable children. 

GordyL wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:29am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:42pm: GordyL wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:28pm: Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:20pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 10:27pm: Quote: The obvious answer is that governments don't want us to know the true nature of ethnic crime stats. Really?  I don't buy it.  If they did bother, what would be the point.  What do they do with a 5th generation Aussie who offends?  Explain, please. There is obviously a point, or the police across all states and territories wouldn't be doing it. And I'll spell it out for you: that data, if released to the public, is dynamite, because it shows how well multiculturalism is working in practice. For example, in lines with the OP, I bet it would show disproportionately rape and gang rape figures amongst Muslims and Sudanese. And that's just for starters I once mentioned that Lebanese have caused a kerfuffle in Sydney once or twice,  Karnal leapt galantly to their defence and gave me a history lesson from the 50s about Abe Saffron And while we were watching the Ted Mulry gang on Countdown, you were getting your bris in Ontario. History, innit. I had to Google bris. Stop thinking about my penis or a Granville Muslim will throw acid in your face

I think you're getting us confused with the Harris Park Hindus, Gordy.

We grew here, you flew here.

STOP THE BOATS.

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 11:18am:

I think this is predominantly a male issue in general. The need to feel in power over women in particular. The said person would have done the crime regardless of his religious affiliation.

tickleandrose,

A flawed logic and argument,        ....when we examine the criminal behaviour of moslems, committing criminal assaults against non-moslems.

[e.g.      do devout moslems commit such crimes [of sexual violence] against fellow moslems ???
please cite 3 instances.]




YES, some persons from every culture will break cultural laws and will break national laws and commit crimes against their fellow 'nationals' or citizens.

But ISLAM actually sanctions [i.e. makes 'lawful'] this particular crime [and many other crimes!], whenever those crimes are committed against those persons who are not moslems.

Such crimes [i.e. crimes by our laws] are sanctioned as 'lawful', by the ISLAMIC 'law of Jihad', whenever those crimes are conducted against Allah's enemies.






FOR EXAMPLE;

100 Nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by Boko-Haram.

So what! So what!

Such conduct is NOT unlawful to a devout moslem!            ....and every devout moslem knows,      .....that mainstream ISLAM sanctions such behaviour, by the moslem.   !!!!!


Mohammed [the most adored personage, within ISLAM] [by his example] said it is OK for moslem men [like himself] to abduct and to rape women you have personally captured,       .....as recorded in the Hadith [ISLAMIC religious texts!!]....




Quote:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger" = = Mohammed was in the company of these men. "on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women" = = it was some form of raiding party, where they, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'. "and we desired them" = = hmmmm, i wonder what that means? "for we were suffering from the absence of our wives" = = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust. "(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them." = = in their minds, they sought to sexually 'use' these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them. "So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them" = = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.

Those [above] extracts from the Hadith are cited, with references, here;

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8




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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems. ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers']. .....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

ian wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: [ Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::) thats a stupid claim.

Is it?

How do you think the authorities identified an offender's "ethnicity", Ian?

Does this man look like an "Asian"?

https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/160211/b8893207z.1_20160210205856_000_gnkf3nlp.3_1-1bbmddp.jpg

Or is he of Russian extraction?

Afterall, his name is Ian Goodenough MHR...   ::)

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 11:05am:

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 11:00am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 10:56am: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: Last time I checked, "Nicole", "Muslim" was a follower of Islam, not an ethnicity...   ::) ::) Religion is a part of one's ethnicity. So, people with no religion have no ethnicity? Ethnicity covers a numbers of things. Religion is one of them.

Does it?  Religion is what "Nicole" is interested in.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

ian wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 7:59am: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: [ Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::) thats a stupid claim. Is it? How do you think the authorities identified an offender's "ethnicity", Ian? Does this man look like an "Asian"? https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/160211/b8893207z.1_20160210205856_000_gnkf3nlp.3_1-1bbmddp.jpg Or is he of Russian extraction? Afterall, his name is Ian Goodenough MHR...   ::)

Ethnicity is most often self identified Brian. You seem to be missing the point here.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

Does this man look like an "Asian"?

Yes, DEFINITELY an ASIAN.  :D

This guy used a gun to rob and rape an escort.

I would say he was unlicensed with an unregistered gun

re Yadda

There is another fallacy.  Rules and religious scriptures were created by men, changed over time by men at their convenience.  But in its very basic essence, its about power over others.    The most important point is that act of harm against another.  It does not matter if it sanctioned or not, its the wickedness of the human mind that lead to evil acts. 

For example, if today, Australia suddenly sanctioned killing of people.  I will not be part of it.   And yet other people would kill for some very stupid reasons. 

ian wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 7:07pm: ian wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 7:59am: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 11:36pm: [ Really?  How?  'Cause the offenders kept misidentifying themselves as being something other than what the authorities believed they were?    ::) ::) thats a stupid claim. Is it? How do you think the authorities identified an offender's "ethnicity", Ian? Does this man look like an "Asian"? https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/160211/b8893207z.1_20160210205856_000_gnkf3nlp.3_1-1bbmddp.jpg Or is he of Russian extraction? Afterall, his name is Ian Goodenough MHR...   ::) Ethnicity is most often self identified Brian. You seem to be missing the point here.

But you are missing the point, Ian Goodenough (for example) has family roots in Russia yet physically he resembles an Asian.   Which is he?  Russian or Asian?

Many years ago, I knew a soldier in the Australian Army who also looked "Asian".  His family was Yugoslav in origin.   Which is he?  Asian or Yugoslav?

"Ethnicity" is an often far more complex matter than most bigots allow for, in their bigotry.   People identify with where their family emigrated from, rather than what ever ethnic group they belong to.   The recently departed Bert Kwouk, an English actor has his last role in "Last of the Summer Wine" where he placed a Scotsman from Glasgow, despite being Chinese in appearance.   Which would his character have been identified as?  Scots or Chinese?

It all depends on how the person perceives themselves, Ian, far more than how the Authorities might perceive them.   ::) ::)

Neferti wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 7:07pm: Does this man look like an "Asian"? Yes, DEFINITELY an ASIAN.  :D

So, despite identifying himself as Russian and having been born in Australia and growing up here, you would identify him as an "ASIAN", Neferti...    ::) ::)

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

re Yadda There is another fallacy. Rules and religious scriptures were created by men, changed over time by men at their convenience.

tickleandrose,

That is not what moslem men, living within an ISLAMIC culture or living within an ISLAMIC community believe.  !!!!!!

And it is clear that many moslems [even those moslems who live among us, here, within Australia] are prepared to act on their beliefs, to the harm of those who do not find favour in the law and tenets of of ISLAM.

i.e.
Many moslems [even many of those moslems who live among us, here, within Australia] BELIEVE that they have the lawful right [given to them, by their religion] to harm those persons who are not moslems, and who offend them [i.e. moslems], because they see their un-ISLAMIC lifestyle as a slight against ISLAM !

i.e. To the harm of those who reject ISLAM's divine right, to lawfully regulate the lives of all persons!


as per.....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11




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tickleandrose wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

But in its very basic essence, its about power over others. The most important point is that act of harm against another. It does not matter if it sanctioned or not, its the wickedness of the human mind that lead to evil acts.

tickleandrose,

You are speaking utter, utter RUBBISH!!!

Of course it matters, if a particular behaviour is sanctioned or not, within a society of men!

e.g.
Some behaviours, which are NOT sanctioned within a society of men, are regarded as capital crimes!

So, it does 'matter' !



tickleandrose,

If you honestly believe that;

"It does not matter if it [certain behaviour is] sanctioned or not",

....then take a knife in hand, and walk down Main Street in any capital city in Australia, and start stabbing the people that you come across!!

And you will soon find out whether that particular behaviour is sanctioned, and whether it matters or not!   !!!



tickleandrose,

So your assertion that;

"It does not matter if [certain behaviour is] sanctioned or not",

......is, imo, the product of a confused and incoherent mind,
......i.e. your statement/assertion offends reason!



Dictionary;
incoherent = = incomprehensible or confusing in speech or writing.   internally inconsistent; illogical.

Yadda wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 2:36pm:

..... ..... Many moslems [even many of those moslems who live among us, here, within Australia] BELIEVE that they have the lawful right [given to them, by their religion] to harm those persons who are not moslems, and who offend them [i.e. moslems], because they see their un-ISLAMIC lifestyle as a slight against ISLAM !

FOR EXAMPLE;

The former Mufti of Australia, Mr Hilali,        .....publicly stated that women who wore Western clothing 'were asking for it' [i'm paraphrasing!], i.e. were asking to get raped!

And it would not be unreasonable to believe that,         ......that statement coming from a moslem community 'dignitary' here in Australia,            ......could have been interpreted by many moslem men [here in Australia], that hey!, if you rape an Australian women, then you [i.e. the moslem man] could not, or should not, be considered to be at fault.   !!!!!!



Because, Mr Hilali was effectively stating, PUBLICLY!!, that the fault and the complicity,          .....for being raped by a moslem man, would be the fault of Australian women,            .....because those Australian women did not dress according to the cultural expectations of moslem men.       !!!!




tickleandrose,

What about personal accountability, for our behaviour !!!?

The common moslem argument is, that if their behaviour is not in conflict is ISLAMIC law and with ISLAMIC cultural tenets,         .....then the moslem has done nothing wrong!!

......as per, what ISLAMIC culture and ISLAMIC law, teaches to every moslem.




CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems. ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers']. .....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

Re Yadda

Once again, you just proved what i said before.   Religious scriptures are man made, and had been used to control the population.   People do evil things not because of the scripture itself.  But, its a) what others - again men told them to do, and b) they want to do it - again men. 

Even in a hypothetical world, where there is no Islam.  Then those same people will find another excuse to do the exact same. 

A book is a book, its there, but a book or scripture can not kill anyone.   Its those of who read it, and then using it as justification to commit evil.  The ultimate fault lies with the reader.   Yes, you can ban the ideology of Islam, but even if you succeed in doing it, what are you going to do about the other ideologies that surely will come after it?  Can you ban every other ideology you deemed evil?  When will the cycle stop?   

My response to post #83


paraphrasing tickleandrose......

There is a lot of wrongdoing in the world, and even when we learn and understand, that a 'popular' religious philosophy promotes wrongdoing, we shouldn't seek to proscribe that philosophy, because, hey, there is so much wrongdoing in the world everyday anyway!!

And perhaps we should simply prosecute individuals, who would commit wrongdoing.

But to try to proscribe a 'popular' religious philosophy which promotes wrongdoing, in an effort to prevent serious wrongdoing, would be going to far!!!
/sarc off


That, is the response to ISLAM, that you are advocating, tickleandrose.






Here below, is the character, of the influence, which ISLAM has [i.e. which ISLAM MUST have], upon the psyche of the moslem.

------------ >

THE KORAN....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28



"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51



"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1




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tickleandroses' reaction/response to moslem violence, supporting ISLAMIC supremacism and oppression is, imo ;

Don't worry about it.

We can't do anything about it.

re yadda:

Please do you take things to the extreme, its a defeatist mentality.

No, I am not advocating you to stop because there are so much wrongdoings in the world.  What I am saying is that you are going about it the wrong way I believe.   

There are indeed alot of wrongdoings in the world, those wrong doers tend believe it different things.   If for some miracle, you can bring down Islam, what about others?  You then need to look at what really makes people to do wrong things.

And it is my belief that it lies deep inside each people's mind and heart.   Some of these people may be so blinded by the lies they see, they may even come to believe it is the right thing or the only thing to do.   It's time we change that.   And as good people of the world, it is up to us to do good in our part in response to the evils.  To set an example and to show others that there is good in the world.

Very much like what Jesus had said.  If someone slaps your face, show him the other cheek!  If the terrorists wanted us to fight between Christians and Muslims, we do the exact opposite.   It is the most difficult thing to do, but it is the right thing to do.   Jesus also said, love thy enemy.

If you spend your life instead trying to destroy or hold on to the sword, then you will forever be tormented by your own thoughts and die by the sword.  Spread a message of love, do as much good deeds as you can, put down your own indifference, and come to the light.

The only punishment for pedophiles.

Find a man hung like John Holmes.

Tie down the child rapist.

Let the guy have his way with said pedophile, at least 5 times a day for a year for every year the child is under age.

If he starts to enjoy it, bring on a horse and tie the rapist to an exercise horse and start again.

Valkie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

The only punishment for pedophiles. Find a man hung like John Holmes. Tie down the child rapist. Let the guy have his way with said pedophile, at least 5 times a day for a year for every year the child is under age. If he starts to enjoy it, bring on a horse and tie the rapist to an exercise horse and start again.

Are you volunteering?

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

re yadda: Please do you take things to the extreme, its a defeatist mentality. No, I am not advocating you to stop because there are so much wrongdoings in the world.  What I am saying is that you are going about it the wrong way I believe.    There are indeed alot of wrongdoings in the world, those wrong doers tend believe it different things.   If for some miracle, you can bring down Islam, what about others?  You then need to look at what really makes people to do wrong things. And it is my belief that it lies deep inside each people's mind and heart.   Some of these people may be so blinded by the lies they see, they may even come to believe it is the right thing or the only thing to do.   It's time we change that.   And as good people of the world, it is up to us to do good in our part in response to the evils.  To set an example and to show others that there is good in the world. Very much like what Jesus had said.  If someone slaps your face, show him the other cheek!  If the terrorists wanted us to fight between Christians and Muslims, we do the exact opposite.   It is the most difficult thing to do, but it is the right thing to do.   Jesus also said, love thy enemy. If you spend your life instead trying to destroy or hold on to the sword, then you will forever be tormented by your own thoughts and die by the sword.  Spread a message of love, do as much good deeds as you can, put down your own indifference, and come to the light.

tickleandrose,

Thank you for your reasoned reply.

This one too freediver.  It is about NSW.

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 10:41pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 28th, 2016 at 9:16pm: The only punishment for pedophiles. Find a man hung like John Holmes. Tie down the child rapist. Let the guy have his way with said pedophile, at least 5 times a day for a year for every year the child is under age. If he starts to enjoy it, bring on a horse and tie the rapist to an exercise horse and start again. Are you volunteering?

I wish I were hung like John Holmes,

But no, I'm sorry I find men unattractive.

An ugly woman can have me before I consider a pretty man any day.

But in honesty, the only way that rapists will ever understand what they have done to their victims is to give them a dose of it themselves.
And the punishment must fit the crime.
Too often we hear of men convicted of child rape getting pathetic sentences, probably because the judge is that way inclined himself as all judges are perverts.

Valkie wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 8:32am:

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 28th, 2016 at 10:41pm: Valkie wrote on Jun 28th, 2016 at 9:16pm: The only punishment for pedophiles. Find a man hung like John Holmes. Tie down the child rapist. Let the guy have his way with said pedophile, at least 5 times a day for a year for every year the child is under age. If he starts to enjoy it, bring on a horse and tie the rapist to an exercise horse and start again. Are you volunteering? I wish I were hung like John Holmes, But no, I'm sorry I find men unattractive. An ugly woman can have me before I consider a pretty man any day. But in honesty, the only way that rapists will ever understand what they have done to their victims is to give them a dose of it themselves. And the punishment must fit the crime. Too often we hear of men convicted of child rape getting pathetic sentences, probably because the judge is that way inclined himself as all judges are perverts.

State sanctioned sex assault.  My goodness.   What if the man was framed? 

tickleandrose wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 8:32am: Unforgiven wrote on Jun 28th, 2016 at 10:41pm: Valkie wrote on Jun 28th, 2016 at 9:16pm: The only punishment for pedophiles. Find a man hung like John Holmes. Tie down the child rapist. Let the guy have his way with said pedophile, at least 5 times a day for a year for every year the child is under age. If he starts to enjoy it, bring on a horse and tie the rapist to an exercise horse and start again. Are you volunteering? I wish I were hung like John Holmes, But no, I'm sorry I find men unattractive. An ugly woman can have me before I consider a pretty man any day. But in honesty, the only way that rapists will ever understand what they have done to their victims is to give them a dose of it themselves. And the punishment must fit the crime. Too often we hear of men convicted of child rape getting pathetic sentences, probably because the judge is that way inclined himself as all judges are perverts. State sanctioned sex assault.  My goodness.   What if the man was framed?

WHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTT?

How do you frame a pedophile.
Use a child to frame him?
Beat up a woman and get her to blame someone else after having sex with him.

Sorry, I just dont get it?

Personally I prefer state sanctioned execution for convicted pedophiles and rapists.
But this tends to annoy the touchy feely do gooders.
So why not give the rapist or pedophile a taste of what he gave his UNWILLING victims?

OR
we could just take them fishing 30k off shore where they fall overboard.
We would report it of course...................24 hours later

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-wrongly-accused-of-sexual-assault-sues-police-20140619-zsefw.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-08/child-sexual-abuse-outrageous-imprisonment-must-be-investigated/6528122

Oh yeah, it can happen.

Remember, our law states that a child can report the crime after they reach adulthood.   A fair call, but it was exploited in case 2 from abc above.