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The United States Supreme Court
Crushes Obama's Immigration Plans


Source:  USA Today   
Quote:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court dealt a likely fatal blow Thursday to President Obama's effort to protect millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and allow them to seek work permits, deadlocking 4-4 over a plan that had divided the nation as well as the justices. The tie vote leaves intact a preliminary injunction that stopped the program in its tracks more than a year ago, after Texas and 25 other states claimed Obama lacked the authority to circumvent Congress. While the case now will return to Texas for further review, it's {highly} unlikely the lower federal courts that blocked the program will reverse themselves. In practical terms, then, the 4-4 vote dooms for the remainder of Obama's presidency his goal of providing protection to more than 4 million undocumented parents whose children already have such protection. The justices likely split along ideological lines, though the vote was not revealed; the ruling carries no national precedent. It was a sudden, crushing defeat for millions of parents who came to the country illegally and have lived in the shadows, often for decades. The administration had hoped that at least one of the more conservative justices — possibly Chief Justice John Roberts — would rule that the plan posed no financial threat to the states and therefore could not be challenged in court.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7PmGqO2KA

Illegal Aliens will have to go home, & get in the legal queue in order to return to the USA.

This ruling destroys the legality (actually Obama's EOs were illegal in the first place) of all President Obama's Immigration Executive Orders, &  sends a clear message to those contemplating entering America illegally, & to those there, looking over their shoulders for Immigration Officers.....start brushing up on your native language, because if INS catches you, you're going home for a long time.

No more free rides for law breakers!

So a deadlock, theres a shock.


Let me guess the 4 republican judges and 4 democratic judges voted opposite to each other?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

So a deadlock, theres a shock. Let me guess the 4 republican judges and 4 democratic judges voted opposite to each other?

Keep guessing..........but, if you really want to know for sure.....google it, google is your friend, Mr. Ed.....not your enemy. ;)

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 11:17am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 10:41am: So a deadlock, theres a shock. Let me guess the 4 republican judges and 4 democratic judges voted opposite to each other? Keep guessing..........but, if you really want to know for sure.....google it, google is your friend, Mr. Ed.....not your enemy. ;)

The guess was a sarcastic comment. I dont need to google, its a given that they voted along party lines

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 11:40am:

I dont need to google, its a given that they voted along party lines

Yes! The judiciary infected with the political ... Surprise, surprise, surprise! (not)

"If " Labor get back in they'll do the same thing with all the economic refugees on TPV's  in Australia. They'll let them all out . What better way to encourage the people smuggling trade.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 11:40am:

Panther wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 11:17am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 10:41am: So a deadlock, theres a shock. Let me guess the 4 republican judges and 4 democratic judges voted opposite to each other? Keep guessing..........but, if you really want to know for sure.....google it, google is your friend, Mr. Ed.....not your enemy. ;) The guess was a sarcastic comment. I dont need to google, its a given that they voted along party lines

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 11:56am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 11:40am: I dont need to google, its a given that they voted along party lines Yes! The judiciary infected with the political ... Surprise, surprise, surprise! (not)

@Mr.Ed & NoN

If you have such a weak & narrow view of the American Supreme Court, then why.....oh,why.....did the same exact court render a 5 to 3 decision in favor of Abortion Rights?

Can either one of you Einsteins elaborate intelligently then on how a "Conservative"/"Republican" tilted bench voted favorably on such a democrat/leftist subject as Abortion Rights?

Sorry, Mr. Ed, but asking for an intelligent elaboration precludes your participation.  https://i.imgsafe.org/52a25e8.gif https://i.imgsafe.org/c589185.gif

Its "trickle down demographics," more illegal aliens will eventually mean more votes for the Democrats who let them get citizenship.

issuevoter wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

Its "trickle down demographics," more illegal aliens will eventually mean more votes for the Democrats who let them get citizenship.

It's politics as usual all over the world isn't it......pay & comfort illegals in the hopes they breed vote for you! All the while they will be free to pillage & rape the country economically bare.

Well, SCOTUS threw a monkey wrench into Obama's (The Undisputed HNIC) designs for illegals domination.

They told the HNIC to simply "Go Piss Up a Rope, there's yer Presidential Legacy for ya!"

Panther, there are reports in some news sources that the proto-muslim Obama has his DOJ working on ways to subvert the SCOTUS by using executive order, just as he has done on other matters.

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 12:41pm:

If you have such a weak & narrow view of the American Supreme Court, then why.....oh,why.....did the same exact court render a 5 to 3 decision in favor of Abortion Rights? Can either one of you Einsteins elaborate intelligently then on how a "Conservative"/"Republican" tilted bench voted favorably on such a democrat/leftist subject as Abortion Rights?

Gawd you're one uppity bitch!!

Steady with the hand flapping there, you'll do yourself a mischief...

The myth of separation is just that - a myth. There's nothing to moan about... Its the way of the world...

Even Hollywood makes that point time and again.

Conservatives appoint conservative judges... Liberals appoint liberal judges. That's just the way of the world and by any measure of common sense.

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

Panther, there are reports in some news sources that the proto-muslim Obama has his DOJ working on ways to subvert the SCOTUS by using executive order, just as he has done on other matters.

Well, I'm sure you read, it was his EOs that the lower courts objected to & put an injunction on, & by a 4 to 4 vote the Supreme Court ensured his EOs would wither flaccidly on the vine. https://i.imgsafe.org/c8ee1b3.gif

His EOs couldn't do the trick for him before, & it looks to be a precedent that even the 'Anointed One' won't be to soon to overcome.

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

Panther, there are reports in some news sources that the proto-muslim Obama has his DOJ working on ways to subvert the SCOTUS by using executive order, just as he has done on other matters.

"reports"

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 12:41pm: If you have such a weak & narrow view of the American Supreme Court, then why.....oh,why.....did the same exact court render a 5 to 3 decision in favor of Abortion Rights? Can either one of you Einsteins elaborate intelligently then on how a "Conservative"/"Republican" tilted bench voted favorably on such a democrat/leftist subject as Abortion Rights? Gawd you're one uppity bitch!! Steady with the hand flapping there, you'll do yourself a mischief... The myth of separation is just that - a myth. There's nothing to moan about... Its the way of the world... Even Hollywood makes that point time and again. Conservatives appoint conservative judges... Liberals appoint liberal judges. That's just the way of the world and by any measure of common sense.

So do you speak from both sides of your mouth, because if what you're saying is if they vote against the HNIC, or the whims of the Left, 4 to 4, they're just a Rightist Court flexing it's Conservative Republican Racist self, but if they vote favorably 5 to 3 on a leftist issue ( Abortion Rights ), the exact same court, is........somehow miraculously a........balanced court??? 

BTW.....thanks for the uppity bitch label......you indignant ⒸⓊⓃⓉ  ;)



Edit: just thought you would like to know that the Founding Fathers...the crafters of the Constitution....did not want the SCOTUS to be totally bias free, that's why the are appointed politically, actually in hopes of bias....do your research, it's there to be found. ;)

Maybe common sense trumped politics.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:26pm:

Maybe common sense trumped politics.

More like a bloody treasonous defector in the ranks.....off with his head!!    https://i.imgsafe.org/4945a05c51.gif    https://i.imgsafe.org/080eb5d.gif

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Maybe common sense trumped politics. More like a bloody treasonous defector in the ranks! https://i.imgsafe.org/080eb5d.gif

Are you suggesting they made the wrong decision re abortion rights?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:35pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:26pm: Maybe common sense trumped politics. More like a bloody treasonous defector in the ranks! https://i.imgsafe.org/080eb5d.gif Are you suggesting they made the wrong decision re abortion rights?

Why, do you think the women in Texas should have unrestricted abortion rights up to & including partial birth abortions?.....

par·tial-birth a·bor·tion
noun
plural noun: partial-birth abortions

a late-term abortion of a baby that has already died, or is killed before being completely removed from the mother.


Usually by inserting a sharp object through the base of the screaming infants skull & manipulated rapidly until the infant dies it's horrible death......if you want a youtube video, I'll provide one for your pleasure (with audio).

I think its not my place or anyone elses to restrict choice.

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Supreme Court puts Obama immigration legacy
on November's ballot


Source: CNN Political   
Quote:

Washington (CNN)The U.S. Supreme Court just smashed open a political hornet's nest. The court's deadlocked ruling Thursday that effectively blocks Barack Obama's controversial executive actions on immigration, sent convulsions through the 2016 election campaign, dealt a shattering blow to the President's legacy and suddenly left four million undocumented people fearing deportation. The eight justices ensured that a campaign that has already been consumed by divisive rhetoric on immigration will likely become even more fraught, and made the already bitter fight over the destiny of the court will even more intense, with the next President poised to make appointments that could shift its ideological balance for decades. All three branches of the U.S. government -- the executive, the legislature and the judiciary -- have now taken up the polarizing issue of immigration reform, and failed to solve it. Now, it's back to the voters to deliver a verdict on programs designed by Obama to offer work permits and other benefits to 4 million people who had hoped to move out of the shadows into the center of American life........ .......Immigration may not decide the election, but the issue is so emotive that it exerts a powerful influence of base voters in both parties. And since the election could turn on which candidate can motivate the highest number of committed partisans to go to the polls, immigration will play a crucial role. The ruling provides a rallying point for presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who has vowed to go even further than Obama on executive action and is using the issue to cultivate crucial Hispanic general election voters. And it plays directly into the hands of Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump, who has centered his campaign on illegal immigration, a plan to deport undocumented migrants and a proposal to build a wall on the Mexican border.....continued

If you think the rhetoric has been bombastic to date, just wait......you ain't seen nothin' yet!


And in traditional CNN Style, they want the general American Public & American Hispanics to believe that the SCOTUS outcome was only about Mexicans....like the wall, though on the Mexican Border, it's about ALL  Illegal Immigration that traditionally enter through that extremely porous border

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Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

So do you speak from both sides of your mouth, because if what you're saying is if they vote against the HNIC, or the whims of the Left, 4 to 4, they're just a Rightist Court flexing it's Conservative Republican Racist self, but if they vote favorably 5 to 3 on a leftist issue ( Abortion Rights ), the exact same court, is........somehow miraculously a........balanced court???  Edit: just thought you would like to know that the Founding Fathers...the crafters of the Constitution....did not want the SCOTUS to be totally bias free, that's why the are appointed politically, actually in hopes of bias....do your research, it's there to be found. ;)[/i][/font][/size]

(Geez... What is it about this place? So many overemotional people here)...

(How do I say this?) I know much context is lost between the spoken and written word, but if you'd have taken a deep breath and thought about it, you might have been able to intuit that a throwaway comment referring to judges appointed according to political or socio-political persuasions is a statement of the obvious... There wouldn't be all the clamour about appointing the 9th SCJ if that wasn't the case. A comment like that shouldn't be reason to launch into an 'autistic' tirade, as if you were actually offended by a comment like that... (Or were you?).

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:14pm: So do you speak from both sides of your mouth, because if what you're saying is if they vote against the HNIC, or the whims of the Left, 4 to 4, they're just a Rightist Court flexing it's Conservative Republican Racist self, but if they vote favorably 5 to 3 on a leftist issue ( Abortion Rights ), the exact same court, is........somehow miraculously a........balanced court???  Edit: just thought you would like to know that the Founding Fathers...the crafters of the Constitution....did not want the SCOTUS to be totally bias free, that's why the are appointed politically, actually in hopes of bias....do your research, it's there to be found. ;)[/i][/font][/size] (Geez... What is it about this place? So many overemotional people here)... (How do I say this?) I know much context is lost between the spoken and written word, but if you'd have taken a deep breath and thought about it, you might have been able to intuit that a throwaway comment referring to judges appointed according to political or socio-political persuasions is a statement of the obvious... There wouldn't be all the clamour about appointing the 9th SCJ if that wasn't the case. A comment like that shouldn't be reason to launch into an 'autistic' tirade, as if you were actually offended by a comment like that... (Or were you?).

https://i.imgsafe.org/3cbdeb1.gif Nahhh mate, not offended, just used to dealing with under 35 year old leftards, who like the butter on my bread & are just itching to find a way to get at it. That, & this damn Victorian weather....cold & wet, cold & wet, cold & cold. Can't make up it's mind....

Seriously though, no matter how hard you try, nobody.....least of all those across the big pond.....can figure where the SCOTUS will go day to day....left votes right....right votes left....then they all bunch to the middle......go figure. https://i.imgsafe.org/3414562.gif

BTW.....have fun with   the actual oral arguments within the Court   pertaining to this immigration issue.

If you prefer to listen to them rather than read.....try here.  

Nice that they are so open at all levels, so the world can see & listen to the subject matter.....it's called transparency I think. I wonder if we have the same here?  ;)

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:57pm:

I think its not my place or anyone elses to restrict choice.

;D ;D ;D

Yeah, right.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:57pm: I think its not my place or anyone elses to restrict choice. ;D ;D ;D Yeah, right.

Please Herb.....He's having a bad day.....some jockey ran off with his wits, & he has no idea where to look for them.....not the guy who took them, just the wits!  Until he finds them (pssssst, I'm concerned if they ever really existed....just sayin') until he finds them, he's depending on his nit for his wits.....his inner nitwit. https://i.imgsafe.org/a7da108.gif

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:

Nahhh mate, not offended, just used to dealing with under 35 year old leftards, who like the butter on my bread & are just itching to find a way to get at it.

Righto... OK... not itching to get at any butter on anyone's bread (gawd knows what that means... But it sounds kinda creepy)... So... All good on that front.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:57pm: I think its not my place or anyone elses to restrict choice. ;D ;D ;D Yeah, right.

Ahhh look dipshit decided to pop by and support his mate buggertard.

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

Why, do you think the women in Texas should have unrestricted abortion rights up to & including partial birth abortions?

Yes. So do bugger off.

Marla wrote on Jul 1^st, 2016 at 10:35am:

Panther wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Why, do you think the women in Texas should have unrestricted abortion rights up to & including partial birth abortions? Yes. So do bugger off.

Just out of interest other than to save the life of the mother how many partial birth abortions take place in the US.

OK, so it appears as though its only 0.17% of abortions in US are whats considered partial-birth.

Interesting to note medical community doesnt recognise this term (not surprised it is loaded), so will use their term intact dilation and extraction.

Seems to be used in cases of miscarriage or fetuses that have severe congenital defects to allow viewing of remains, examination of defects and closure.


In the UK, they seem to be only aware of it being used in cases whereby the mother is at risk of severe morbidity (sickness) or mortality.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

Marla wrote on Jul 1st, 2016 at 10:35am: Panther wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Why, do you think the women in Texas should have unrestricted abortion rights up to & including partial birth abortions? Yes. So do bugger off. Just out of interest other than to save the life of the mother how many partial birth abortions take place in the US.

I have no god damn clue. But...an abortion is health care for women whether you agree with it or not. No woman should ever be denied her right to health care.

Ugh...pointless rehashing of "the abortion issue" AGAIN.  It's one of those "issues" that goes on year after year, decade after decade, to keep you focused on bullshit.

Your "right" to an abortion is not going to be taken away, and conversely, it's never going to meet with everyones approval.

It's like farting in a crowded elevator - it's not, and shouldn't be illegal, but it's still a pretty crappy thing to do.

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Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2016 at 10:21am:

.. The United States Supreme Court Crushes Obama's Immigration Plans Source:  USA Today    Quote: WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court dealt a likely fatal blow Thursday to President Obama's effort to protect millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation and allow them to seek work permits, deadlocking 4-4 over a plan that had divided the nation as well as the justices. The tie vote leaves intact a preliminary injunction that stopped the program in its tracks more than a year ago, after Texas and 25 other states claimed Obama lacked the authority to circumvent Congress. While the case now will return to Texas for further review, it's {highly} unlikely the lower federal courts that blocked the program will reverse themselves. In practical terms, then, the 4-4 vote dooms for the remainder of Obama's presidency his goal of providing protection to more than 4 million undocumented parents whose children already have such protection. The justices likely split along ideological lines, though the vote was not revealed; the ruling carries no national precedent. It was a sudden, crushing defeat for millions of parents who came to the country illegally and have lived in the shadows, often for decades. The administration had hoped that at least one of the more conservative justices — possibly Chief Justice John Roberts — would rule that the plan posed no financial threat to the states and therefore could not be challenged in court....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA7PmGqO2KA Illegal Aliens will have to go home, & get in the legal queue in order to return to the USA. This ruling destroys the legality (actually Obama's EOs were illegal in the first place) of all President Obama's Immigration Executive Orders, &  sends a clear message to those contemplating entering America illegally, & to those there, looking over their shoulders for Immigration Officers.....start brushing up on your native language, because if INS catches you, you're going home for a long time. No more free rides for law breakers!

good to see someone is on Americas side