Australian Politics Forum | |
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl
General Discussion >> America >> US descent into chaos http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1467951620 Message started by Honky on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm |
Title: US descent into chaos Post by Honky on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm
Snipers at a black lives matter protest have shot 10 cops, with 3 dead so far.
Endless race baiting by the media and others, combined with tolerance for left-wing agitators has led to some groups being emboldened, with escalating levels of violence. The police won't ever back down, so this is not looking good for the rule of law in the US. The years-old rumblings about plans to implement martial law, Obama being the last president of the US, fema camps etc look more and more likely by the day. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 8th, 2016 at 4:20pm ... wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
I suspect Obama would like nothing better, but he's not going to be in office long enough to pull off any of those grandiose plans. The moving van will arrive in January. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by AiA on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:09pm ... wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
you left out "death panels" and Obama "taking all the guns away" without his birth certificate. jesus. what is wrong with you people. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by AiA on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:11pm The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 4:20pm:
nutjobs like you have been saying Obama is going to pull off his "grandiose plans" any day now. have you ever considered there never were any such plans? that he had his birth certificate all along? and you have wasted almost an entire decade of your miserable life? |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Honky on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:25pm AiA wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
I always thought it was far fetched nonsense too. But it's now getting harder to see how they're going to hold it all together. See how petulant the brits got about a victory for brexit? When the tanties begin about Trump being elected, it'll be like an asteroidal impact. Things are going to get ugly. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Karnal on Jul 8th, 2016 at 10:32pm ... wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
Not to mention an endless string of police shootings, including two in the last two days. You probably missed that part. They don’t call you Honky for nothing, eh? |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Karnal on Jul 8th, 2016 at 10:38pm ... wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
We’ll have a jolly race war, no? Marvellous stuff. That’s not racist or anything. Race wars are not a race. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 9th, 2016 at 7:19am The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 4:20pm:
AiA wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:11pm:
Easy there, dude. Deep, healing breaths. Blood pressure back to normal now? Good. Now let's go over this again. I never claimed that Obama himself had any "grandiose plans" he was waiting to impose. What I said was that he wouldn't be in office long enough to pull off "those grandiose plans" -- mentioned by Honky -- much as he might enjoy such things. Good grief, it was only a half-serious remark to begin with. Try to keep things in perspective. AiA wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 7:11pm:
My life's fine, thanks. If yours is miserable, you'll have to work that out with your own counselor on your own time. Have a blessed day! |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:29pm ... wrote on Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
This black Sheriff backs what you are saying 100% Honky. twitter.com/SheriffClarke |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:38pm
I guess black lives don't matter when blacks are killing blacks, nothing in the black victimhood industry for that.
heyjackass.com |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:32am Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:38pm:
BLM protests, like the ones against Trump and most other left-wing productions, are as choreographed as a Bolshoi Ballet performance. You can bet that the ranks of the protesters will be swelled with rent-a-mobs carrying identical pre-printed signs, having probably been lured off some Chicago street for the promise of 20 bucks and a sack lunch. Ask the majority of Trump protesters what they don't like about Trump and they'll get a blank look and stutter out something like, "Ummm ... well ... uh ... 'cause, like, he's a racist." And unless they're paid in cash, I wouldn't be surprised to see George Soros' signature on the paycheck. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by AiA on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:45am The4thEstate wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:32am:
Jesus. You are at it again. Rather than take one tablet with water every six hours, pop 10 at one time in your mouth and blast the **ck off. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 12th, 2016 at 6:28am The4thEstate wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:32am:
All these leftist conspiracies of yours! Do you think the Jews are behind them all?! |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Honky on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:57pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:29pm:
Oh yeah, I like that guy. He gave Obama both barrels on some news show. Called him "cop hater in chief" and referred to Hilary as "Mrs Bill Clinton". |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 12th, 2016 at 5:34pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:29pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:38pm:
Who's most to blame in America for fanning the fires of racism......race baiting....??? Well, it's none other than The Anointed One......BHO......America's Failed Experiment. More from the Sheriff..... In order to survive & overcome the latest attempts to destroy America by the democrat Party...AKA...the New Anti-American Socialist Party, the American "Silent (so far) Majority" must take that mob by the neck & shake the bejisis out of them until they can fare no more........for if they don't, Tyranny & Anarchy will seize the day, & destroy the fabric of that great nation, not forever, but for many years to come! .. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 13th, 2016 at 10:49am
Panther, here til Sunday, try the veal.
|
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 13th, 2016 at 2:42pm AiA wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:45am:
Is there a point hiding somewhere within your post, O Overlord of the Overemotional? You really need to practice those deep breathing exercises I suggested. You're going off the rails again. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 13th, 2016 at 2:48pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 6:28am:
Do you seriously believe that every leftist protest in America just comes together spontaneously, and that every protester who participates is from that local area, and that not a penny of Soros money has ever been pumped into any left-wing organization? If so. you're probably the kind of guy who gets excited every time you get an email from some Nigerian prince offering to share his $20 million fortune with you in exchange for the number of your bank account. And what do Jews have to do with anything? |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 14th, 2016 at 1:14pm The4thEstate wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Umm... My comment was a joke... Y'know... playing on the fact that 'Jews are to blame for everything'... Y'know like what Abba Eben said : - "If Algeria introduced a resolution declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions. " |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 14th, 2016 at 6:01pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
OK, fine with me ... I like jokes. (Even if it's hard to tell who's joking around here sometimes!) |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by AiA on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:05pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Asperger's Syndrome. That explains so much about you. They can't read social cues well and you seem not to be able to either, like jokes for instance. i've never been emotional here - evah |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm The4thEstate wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 6:01pm:
To be fair, as an American you're at a disadvantage with Australians when it comes to irony... Those of the English speaking world who would understand our humour the most easily are the British, the Irish, the Kiwis and (to a large degree) the Canadians (not sure of the order) Unfortunately, with Americans, as George Bernard Shaw (apparently) quipped - The United States and Great Britain are two countries separated by a common language - (especially when it comes to humour) we too are separated by a common language. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:03am AiA wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:05pm:
Why, that's not true! I spotted you as a joke from day one! |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by The4thEstate on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:08am NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm:
I generally get irony; it was the Jewish reference that momentarily threw me. But it's all good. Language misunderstandings can always be worse. Put yourself in the place of British comedian Peter Cook, who -- as the story goes -- once appeared on an American talk show and discussed how much he enjoyed smoking. "I'm never happy unless I've got a fag in my mouth," he innocently quipped, prompting an avalanche of laughter that he was clueless to understand. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by NorthOfNorth on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:55pm The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 8:08am:
Yes... QED! |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Raven on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:20am
A post from a another thread.
Why is it if you take a stand for something you are automatically against something else? If you support Black Lives matter then you are anti police. If you support the police then you must hate black people. Why can't you be pro-police and pro-black? Only a fool deals in absolutes. The treatment of black people by a number of police should be cause for concern in America. But even when there is video evidence critics bend over backwards to justify these deaths. When a 12 year old boy playing with a toy gun in a park was killed within 2 seconds of police showing up city officials blamed the child for his death accusing him of "Failure to exercise due care to avoid injury." It's his fault he was playing in the park. It's his fault he was killed in under 2 seconds by responding police. It's his fault that the police officer who shot him quit his previous police job before being dismissed for deficiencies such as being emotionally unstable and unfit for duty, especially in handling firearms. only to be hired by a police department under federal investigation for allegations that officers use excessive force, including unreasonable deadly force. And it's his fault that he was not seen as a child. Cleveland Police Patrolman’s Association president Steve Loomis said "He's menacing. He's 5ft 7, 191 pounds. He's not what you see in the video, he's a 12 year old in an adult body." When things like this happen you can understand why people want to protest against police. Stories like this is almost a daily occurrence in America and the officer involved need to be investigated. However these officers represent only a tiny fraction of the overall police force. The rest are honest police officers doing their best to serve their community. An oft time hard and thankless job but one they continue to do. We do neither side any favours by failing to acknowledge both. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by mortdooley on Jul 18th, 2016 at 4:23am
How you interact with the Police has everything to do with the outcome. Most Black Americans are raised to automatically fear certain things. Things like ghosts, dogs, the Police and Utility Service employees turning off their utilities for nonpayment. If you freak out or get mouthy and become animated with the Police you could frighten them and it will end badly.
I've been pulled over by Black Police Officers twice while armed and there was no problem. I came to a stop as soon as I was sure they were interested in me, I lowered my window, put my licenses and proof of insurance on the dash, shut off my engine, kept my hands in plain sight on the wheel and spoke clearly and calmly. One time was at night and I also turned on my dome light. One wrote me a citation for speeding and the other sent me on my way. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:13am Raven wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:20am:
Whenever an officer discharges his weapon.....& in the vast majority of jurisdictions.......they must report doing so in writing for review......& when someone is actually shot, the officer is relieved of his firearm, & the shooting automatically goes to an internal affairs investigation, death or no death. In a high-profile case, the District Attorney launches his own independent investigation, which includes having full access into & full cooperation of the IA investigators, & the police department. This usually happens before anything gets to a 'boiling point', which usually happens after the politicians & the media stoke the flames. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by brumbie on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:43am
Another 3 police shot dead last night with 3 more injured in Baton Rouge:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36820782 |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:39pm
They need to bring in the army. Black America is out of control.
|
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 18th, 2016 at 2:18pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 1:39pm:
No they don't.....that would be a knee-jerk response of the highest magnitude. The war should not be against any persons of any particular color......it must be a war waged against hateful rhetoric, rhetoric being delivered by the "Black Lives Matter" hate group, & being accepted as credible by the leftist media, then stirred-up by the same, while being embraced by members of high standing in the democrat party because it meets with their agenda.....getting black votes! What they need in America is a President to condemn the anti-police rhetoric of the "Black Lives Matter" hate group, instead of praising them at every term.....instead of honoring them in the White House!!! Barrack Hussein Obama is the leader that for once should not lead from behind, but lead from the front.....& condemn the anti-police rhetoric in the strongest of terms.....which he would hate to do in an election year, because correct as it morally would be, it may hurt his party's standing with black bloc voters who thrive on anti-white....anti-cop rhetoric. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2016 at 3:14pm
It would be nicer if the "anti-Police rhetoric" wasn't largely true. Black lives do matter, despite what the white police officers might believe. ::)
|
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 18th, 2016 at 3:26pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Spoken like someone that keeps his head buried so deep up his a......... Well, well, it IS you Brian!!! Long time no hear.....I've noticed the lack of your flavor of Bullsh!t about here lately.....welcome back....greegy needs his Over 99.99998% of all police officers, of all colors, believe ALL Lives Matter, & do their job thanklessly day in, day out.....protecting ALL lives, regardless of color. This latest criminal, who shot 3 officers dead in Louisiana today wounding 3 more, believed ALL Cops deserve to die like the "Black Lives Matter" Hate Group says....believed the rhetoric so much that the first cop shot was black....father of a newborn..... Your hero Brian? This is what the Black Lives Matter Hate Group is saying: Your heroes Brian??? |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Honky on Jul 18th, 2016 at 4:13pm
The RNC this week is going to be massive. I hope the anti trumpers can behave themselves, because if they the kind of tanties weve come to expect from them, the state is going to have little choice but to clamp down on everyone. Its a big ask based on past form - If theres one thing leftists do best, its ruin it for everyone.
|
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 18th, 2016 at 4:32pm ... wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
The DNC paid & other unpaid Anarchists, Low Lifes, wastes of space Millennials (Gen Ys) will be out in force to cause any kind of disruptive chaos they can to stop anyone who doesn't promote their brand of Socialism, from exercising free speech. The way things are going, I wouldn't put it past one of them Occupy type assholes from shooting a fellow black protestor, then blame a cop, in order to cause wholesale rioting & pillaging in the name of democratic socialism & 'justice'. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:10pm Panther wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
Nice to hear your racism again, Panther. What a shame it's just the same old bullshit. "You be black, you know your place, boy!" So, you proposing that lynching be allowed to make a comeback? Just to keep those boys in their place? What are you going to do about their guns though? Afterall, the US Constitution guarantees all it's citizens, black or white the right to have a gun. Be a shame they end up shootin' you red necks when you bring your rope for them, right? How's your grits, home boy? ::) ::) |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:10pm:
I side with the cops......the overwhelmingly good, hard working, honest cops, & I along with them believe ALL lives matter. Sounds like you disagree.......you believe cops lives don't matter obviously. About the guns.....nothing to be done....the gun wasn't the culprit, the criminal using it was......he's been made dead.....justifiably.......The Second Amendment remains intact. BTW...... according to your mindset.........this cop deserved killing.....this cop's kid deserves his daddy dead.....right? Call me a racist any day you wish, that name when used by you means nothing to me......but I believe, he, as well as the shooter, deserved to live......the cop because he was a good man & father.....the killer, so he could be punished at the hands of the community he took that good man from. Unfortunately, when the killer left home, he left with design to kill cops......& the cop had being home with his child on his mind when he left his home. Both are dead, but only one planned it that way. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:52pm Panther wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:41pm:
Oh, I think everybody deserves to live, Panther. Being called a racist is of course an accurate observation of how you and the American police seem to act towards black people. I don't doubt that there are many good American police but it appears their image is blighted by a minority of bad police who kill black people and get away with it, regularly. To them and you, in your blanket condemnation of the Black Lives Matter movement, black lives don't matter. Shame on you, Panther, shame. ::) |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Honky on Jul 18th, 2016 at 7:12pm
Sheriff David Clarke is mad as hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAu44wVgb58 |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 18th, 2016 at 8:09pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 6:52pm:
Thank you Honky, for that most timely video.....excellent mate.....excellent! But, don't listen to me Brian, listen to someone that lives there, one that deals with the matters at hand, & has for years. A black man, who knows way more than you or I......listen to Sheriff Clarke ....... I wholeheartedly, condemn in the fullest of terms, what the "Black Lives Matters Hate Group" stands for, & the message of hate it sends to America, especially blacks, in the guise of somehow actually caring about black lives. Brian.....will you join me in condemning the hateful rhetoric the Black Lives Matters group directs towards the American Police, that probably contributed towards the deaths of good cops in Dallas, in NYC, & recently in Louisiana. Do you condemn those rhetorical hate messages of BLM directed towards ALL American Police, Brian? A simple YES or NO would suffice Brian.....a simple YES or NO. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Brian Ross on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:58pm
Still running from the facts, Panther. Black Lives Do Matter. Simple, clear, direct, particularly when you look at all the black people that so many America Police Officers have chosen to shoot. That you'd prefer to value Police lives over the lives of American citizens is so telling of your attitude towards black people. Tsk, tsk. ::)
|
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Secret Wars on Jul 19th, 2016 at 12:17am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:58pm:
Black lives don't seem to matter to other blacks. The biggest threat to a black man is not the police it is another black man. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by mortdooley on Jul 19th, 2016 at 3:27am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:58pm:
So how long have you lived among Black Americans? A Police Officer expects to go home to his family after every shift, he doesn't expect to kill anyone. Black Americans are the only group I have ever heard of who kill to steal the tennis shoes from their victims. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by issuevoter on Jul 19th, 2016 at 8:21am Mortdooley wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 3:27am:
Hey, at least they get a pair of tennis shoes. Muslims will kill you for nothing. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 19th, 2016 at 1:16pm Panther wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 8:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18th, 2016 at 11:58pm:
I never, ever said Black Lives didn't matter. Never! I dare you to either put up or shut up....find it....I dare you Brian! I have repeatedly said that ALL LIVES MATTER, & Blacks are included in that blanket statement. So Brian....you have chosen to ignore my call with a simple Yes or No statement. You refused to join me in condemning the hateful rhetoric the Black Lives Matters group directs towards the American Police, that probably contributed towards the deaths of good cops in Dallas, in NYC, & recently in Louisiana. You refused to condemn the rhetorical hate messages of BLM directed, & still directs, towards ALL American Police. All you needed to do was reply with a simple YES (I do) of No (I don't). Therefore, you can call me any name you so wish......my posts are open to anyone to verify, & determine for themselves, if I am what you say....if your depictions of me are valid or not. But, because of you refuse to condemn rhetorical hate speech/messages from an Ideology of hate directed to each & every American Police Officer, who's only crime is going out every day...putting their lives on the line for others....all others....regardless of skin color....their crime is only that they wish to do their job & simply return home to their families when they finish their shift.....but for this simple desire, they are ALL the focus of vile rhetorical hatred from this Ideology of Hate.....named "Black Lives Matter"..... Brian, because of you refuse to condemn their rhetorical hate speech & messages directed at all American Police in the simplest of terms.... You are a BIGOT......yes Brian, you are a vile BIGOT of the lowest order! Quote:
I could call you a disgusting human being Brian, but in fairness I'll refrain from doing that.....because, even for you, I believe there is still an open opportunity to improve your worth....a path to redemption. |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19th, 2016 at 5:37pm Secret Wars wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 12:17am:
True, unfortunately. However, Police officers are not meant to be randomly killing the citizens they have sworn to protect. Something which Panther and the other critics of the Black Lives Matter movement have attempted to obscure in their racism towards black people. Black people are US citizens too. ::) |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Brian Ross on Jul 19th, 2016 at 5:41pm Panther wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
You have implied it in your continual attacks on the Black Lives Matter movement. Tsk, tsk. To you, the lives of Police Officers are more important than the lives of the citizens that they have sworn to protect and whom they shoot. The Police Officers who have been shot, didn't deserve it any more than the black citizens did, yet both groups have been shot. The Black Officers literally get away with murder. Hardly a week goes by without news of another black offender who has been shot by a Police Officer who is only too willing to use his gun. Why are you surprised that some people are taking the law into their own hands and enacting revenge on the Police? Afterall, isn't having and using a gun an American right? ::) |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Honky on Jul 19th, 2016 at 5:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2016 at 5:37pm:
Hang on - they're killing them "randomly" now? I thought they were targetting blacks? |
Title: Re: US descent into chaos Post by Panther on Jul 19th, 2016 at 6:53pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piwaBO6U43U Don't be Afraid of Listening to an Educated Man. |
Australian Politics Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2! YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2025. All Rights Reserved. |