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Title: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Bam on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:03pm

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Has Allegedly Plagiarised A Bunch Of Their Policies (Excerpts quoted)

Quote:

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Party appears to have plagiarised text from online sources, including Wikipedia, for a number of its policies. The party’s policies on halal certification, the United Nations Agenda 21 conspiracy and medical marijuana all appear to be have been lifted from other websites.

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Junkee can now reveal that a number of her party’s policies, including on the key issue of halal certification, appear to have been plagiarised from other websites, including Wikipedia. A full list of Hanson’s policies can be found on her party website. The first two paragraphs of her policy on halal certification appear to have been directly lifted from an article published in a right-wing US online magazine back in 2013.

Pauline Hanson’s policy on halal certification

An excerpt from a Frontpage Mag article on halal certification

The article has three more examples of apparent plagiarism by One Nation.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by John Smith on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Honky on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:30pm

What is the problem?

If an idea or policy is good, does it matter who thought of it first?

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Aussie on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:59pm

She and those around her ~ just fakes;

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In October 2010, news broke about how the Campbell’s Soup Company received an Islamic (halal) certification for some of its product line, and many were outraged. There was a legitimate concern – not with the fact that Campbell’s received the certification, but with what organisation the certification came from, that being the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) which is a group co-founded by Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) leader Sami al-Arian.

In 2007 and 2008, ISNA was named by the U.S. Justice Department as a co-conspirator for two federal trials dealing with the financing of millions of dollars to Hamas. The defendants of the trials were the leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and HLF itself. In the end, each was found guilty of all charges.

From PHON here:

Link.

And:

Quote:

In October 2010, news broke about how the Campbell’s Soup company received an Islamic (halal) certification for some of its product line, and many were outraged. There was a legitimate concern – not with the fact that Campbell’s received the certification, but with what organization the certification came from, that being the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a group co-founded by Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) leader Sami al-Arian.

In 2007 and 2008, ISNA was named by the U.S. Justice Department as a co-conspirator for two federal trials dealing with the financing of millions of dollars to Hamas. The defendants of the trials were the leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and HLF itself. In the end, each was found guilty of all charges.

From here:

Link.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Valkie on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

Wasn't some liberal joker accused of the same thing a few years ago??

Took some American slogan and tried to apply it here, from memory.

Guess with limited intelligence, they can only copy............just like the monkeys they are.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

No I wont bwian....
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised... the person they had in control of policy after I left thought oil was an ever self regenerating product. Plug up an empty well and wait long enough and it would fill up again. You can't reason with people like that.

ON lost lots of talent over the years, talent that people like Oldfield kept away from positions where they could have been helpful to the party.

Doesn't surprise me if they have no one with any real talent as a policy development coordinator at the moment... certainly my reading of their policies show they need someone more sensible to be writing them. ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Like you?

Well, I've seen Grappler suggest he was better qualified, so I don't think it would be too difficult... ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

Albo was wasn't he? Some US movie.... you hire dregs or hangers on you get crap

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Like you?

Well, I've seen Grappler suggest he was better qualified, so I don't think it would be too difficult... ::)

I'd be very good.... better than you would ever be. ;D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:50pm

"One Nation accused of plagiarism"

Dear o dear o dear.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:51pm

... wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

What is the problem?

If an idea or policy is good, does it matter who thought of it first?

But it's Hanson and One nation...
:D :D :D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:56pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Like you?

Well, I've seen Grappler suggest he was better qualified, so I don't think it would be too difficult... ::)

I'd be very good.... better than you would ever be. ;D

Why? Because I'd ditch the racism, the Xenophobia, the bigotry, the anti-Global Warming/Climate change bullshit which seems to drive their present policies and substitute some nice, warm, welcoming and sensible things instead? ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Aussie on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:58pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

... wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

What is the problem?

If an idea or policy is good, does it matter who thought of it first?

But it's Hanson and One nation...
:D :D :D

Yeas, and she/they lifted word for word the work of others. That is just typical of my broad criticism. Hanson would not have a clue. She might have seen it and gone all gooey at the knee caps at how clevah the thief who swiped it was. More flawed people around her, and I guess it has to be said it seems that she believes only the best are drawn to her magnificence.

This is my concern. She is absolutely vulnerable to manipulation by complete retards because she is far too dumb to recognise what is happening around her.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

... wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:30pm:

What is the problem?

If an idea or policy is good, does it matter who thought of it first?

But it's Hanson and One nation...
:D :D :D

Yeas, and she/they lifted word for word the work of others. That is just typical of my broad criticism. Hanson would not have a clue.

I seriously doubt that she would even understand what plagiarism is, or what the fuss is about.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Like you?

Well, I've seen Grappler suggest he was better qualified, so I don't think it would be too difficult... ::)

I'd be very good.... better than you would ever be. ;D

No bwian, because you are an idiot. I'd make sure idiots like you couldn't twist the words into things they were never meant to be. I'd drop and adopt policies that idiots like you could never disagree with without being shown up for the idiots you are.
For starters I'd drop the RC into Islam crap and tell whoever wrote it to read an encyclopedia or take up theology.
I'd drop the halal hysteria and explain kosher to the twit that wrote it and if they still wanted something on it only push the aspect of where the funds go to... and making sure they do not go to terrorist groups or groups that support terrorists.
The list goes on and on bwian... :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

You mean the, "racism, the Xenophobia, the bigotry, the anti-Global Warming/Climate change bullshit"?

So, you'd substitute instead some, "nice, warm, welcoming and sensible things instead"?

So, what would the difference be, Grendel?

Unless of course, you actually like the "racism, the Xenophobia, the bigotry, the anti-Global Warming/Climate change bullshit" that they presently use? ::)

Quote:

For starters I'd drop the RC into Islam crap and tell whoever wrote it to read an encyclopedia or take up theology.
I'd drop the halal hysteria and explain kosher to the twit that wrote it and if they still wanted something on it only push the aspect of where the funds go to... and making sure they do not go to terrorist groups or groups that support terrorists.
The list goes on and on bwian... :D :D :D :D

So, you'd drop all references to the Muslims and Islam? Good on you, Grendel.

No, wait, it appears you wouldn't.

You know, for a party that likes to claim it likes to treat all Australians fairly before the law, you do seem to favour bigotry above everything else, Grendel. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

Like I said bwian... you are an idiot... :D :D :D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:48pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

Like I said bwian... you are an idiot... :D :D :D

As usual, you resort to argumentum ad hominem, Grendel. ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:59pm

Hey... if you've got nothing.... I don't have to waste my time... right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:59pm:

Hey... if you've got nothing.... I don't have to waste my time... right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by The Grappler on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

I thought they sank the Titanic and started the Korean War and shot the Kennedys.......... how about something with a little meat? Wee Johnnie Howard filched many a position from Ahr Paulie (The Redhead Mk I) - why not a little reciprocal action?

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by The Grappler on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

We desperately need Longie to resolve this mathematical impasse for us with vitriol and lambast of the peasantry..... all is forgiven, Longie.... :'(

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by The Grappler on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Like you?

Well, I've seen Grappler suggest he was better qualified, so I don't think it would be too difficult... ::)

You are beginning to approach the truth and then comes reality.. salaam aleikum....

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:47pm

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

now you've gone and upset the Goose

Grendel will be along in a minute to deny everything... ::)

Like you?

Well, I've seen Grappler suggest he was better qualified, so I don't think it would be too difficult... ::)

You are beginning to approach the truth and then comes reality.. salaam aleikum....

Insha'Allah... ;)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Aussie on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

And Malcolm, and Richard, and Nick..... etc you keep forgetting people Aus. ::)

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Aussie on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

And Malcolm, and Richard, and Nick..... etc you keep forgetting people Aus. ::)

Indeed.....but....you are backing the wrong horse. Tell that to "Mr Hammer."

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by The Grappler on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:00pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

And Malcolm, and Richard, and Nick..... etc you keep forgetting people Aus. ::)

Malcie and Ricky and Nickie are people... well blow me down.... ya could've knocked me over with a speeding semi-trailer!

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:59pm:

Hey... if you've got nothing.... I don't have to waste my time... right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Everytime you post that Yawn bwian you just confirm I'm right and YOU HAVE NOTHING... crawl away now... there's a good obsessive... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

And Malcolm, and Richard, and Nick..... etc you keep forgetting people Aus. ::)

Indeed.....but....you are backing the wrong horse. Tell that to "Mr Hammer."

I'm not backing any horse... you just have it wrong...

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Aussie on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:09pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

And Malcolm, and Richard, and Nick..... etc you keep forgetting people Aus. ::)

Indeed.....but....you are backing the wrong horse. Tell that to "Mr Hammer."

I'm not backing any horse... you just have it wrong...

What do I have wrong? Is it wrong that I point out to "Mr Hammer" that ~ if one is to leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process, ~ she too must do the same with other elected politicians and the process which saw them elected?

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:13pm

Oh dear... would you like to have another go and make some sense this time?

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Aussie on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:22pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Oh dear... would you like to have another go and make some sense this time?

No.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Karnal on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:29pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 4:48pm:

Leave Pauline alone and respect the voting process!!!

Leave Bill Shorten alone and respect the voting process!!!

Homo might be onto something here. If you criticize Pauline, you're attacking all those people who voted for her.

It's an extension of Andrei's rule: any criticism of conservative policies is an attack on old people.

Homo and Andrei must follow the golden mean: if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 6:36pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:59pm:

Hey... if you've got nothing.... I don't have to waste my time... right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Everytime you post that Yawn bwian you just confirm I'm right and YOU HAVE NOTHING... crawl away now... there's a good obsessive... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Grendel on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 8:28pm

For the slow learner...

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:59pm:

Hey... if you've got nothing.... I don't have to waste my time... right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Everytime you post that Yawn bwian you just confirm I'm right and YOU HAVE NOTHING... crawl away now... there's a good obsessive... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by juliar on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 9:51pm

Now how about a REAL post already done on this very subject.

A while back some naive Lefty here was saying how the independents have "policies" they devoutly follow.

well Polly's policies do challenge that belief.

It is good to see Polly is aware of the danger to Australia of the demented HATE AUSTRALIA Agenda 21 motivated Greenies.

One Nation policies lifted from internet
DAN CONIFER 7:32am, Jul 12, 2016

Chunks of One Nation's policies have been copied off the internet. Photo: AAP

Pauline Hanson’s One Nation Party has copied slabs of text from the internet for some of its policies – including from Wikipedia.

During the campaign, Ms Hanson called for a ban on Muslim immigration to Australia, a royal commission into Islam and a ban on new mosques.

Ms Hanson will this year return to Federal Parliament as a senator for Queensland after nearly two decades in the political wilderness, while One Nation picked up nearly one in 10 Senate votes in Queensland. The party claims it could also win Senate seats in several other states.

But chunks of the party’s policies on halal certification, sustainable development and medicinal cannabis have been copied off the internet.

Halal policy lifted from right-wing, anti-Islam groups

One part of One Nation’s policy on halal food — which links the religious blessing to terrorism financing — has been lifted from Frontpage Magazine — a right-wing American “battle tank, geared to fight a war” against the political left.

FrontPage magazine on halal food.

One Nation on halal food.

Another section of the halal certification policy comes from the website of the Q Society — an anti-Islamic group which organised for controversial Dutch MP Geert Wilders to visit Australia in 2012.

Q Society website on halal food.

One Nation website on halal food.

Position on Agenda 21 lifted from 5yo pamphlet

Part of One Nation’s position on the Agenda 21 international sustainable development agreement is almost identical to a five-year-old pamphlet from US group The John Birch Society.

The John Birch Society pamphlet on Agenda 21.

One Nation’s position on Agenda 21.

Medicinal cannabis plan similar to Wikipedia page

A section of One Nation’s medicinal cannabis plan is very similar to parts of a user-generated Wikipedia page on the subject.

The Wikipedia entry reads: “The ancient Egyptians used hemp (cannabis) in suppositories for relieving the pain of haemorrhoids.”

“Surviving texts from ancient India confirm that cannabis’ psychoactive properties were recognized, and doctors used it for treating a variety of illnesses and ailments, including insomnia, headaches, gastrointestinal disorders, and pain, including during childbirth,” it says.

The One Nation website reads: “The ancient Egyptians used hemp (cannabis) in suppositories for relieving the pain of haemorrhoids … In ancient India, doctors used it for treating a variety of illnesses and ailments, including insomnia, headaches, gastrointestinal disorders, and pain, including during childbirth.”

One Nation has refused to comment.

– ABC

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2016/07/12/hanson-policies-lifted-internet/

Title: Re: One Nation accused of plagiarism
Post by Brian Ross on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 10:58pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 8:28pm:

For the slow learner...

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2016 at 2:59pm:

Hey... if you've got nothing.... I don't have to waste my time... right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Everytime you post that Yawn bwian you just confirm I'm right and YOU HAVE NOTHING... crawl away now... there's a good obsessive... ;D ;D ;D