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Title: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Aug 29th, 2016 at 3:15pm
Peace in the Middle East?
Nup. Despite his muslim roots & fanfare at the start of his first term, he has achieved nothing. The Syrian war has flourished on his watch, as has IS. He has conceded nuclear capability to Iran. He has spurned Israel. Stable govts in various countries were replaced with anarchy while he stood by and applauded. Obamacare? Nup. From what I read it's falling apart at the seams and becoming unaffordable for the people it was supposed to help. Trade policy? Nup. If he manages to get the TPP passed in the lame duck session, which is a very slim chance, it will be a present to the global corporations and their elite champions. Clinton says she won't pass it but then she's lying for the election. In 2012 she said it was the "gold standard" for trade deals. Political division? Yep. His pursuit of a radical agenda has divided America more than I can ever remember. He has divided the people from those like the police put there to uphold the law. He has politicised the judiciary beyond belief. As someone who proclaimed himself to be a healer he has been an absolute disaster. What good has he done? Tell me. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 29th, 2016 at 4:13pm bogarde73 wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 3:15pm:
He's exposed the nutcases for one. E.g. anyone who believes 1. He's Muslim 2. Not US born 3. Supports ISIS 4. Is going to take away everyones guns Its made it much easier to view the intellectually challenged. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by issuevoter on Aug 29th, 2016 at 4:54pm
Obama got Osama. Well, if he hadn't, and Bin Laden was taken out during a Republican Presidency, you can bet they would be a lot louder than Obama in claiming the credit.
Universal Health Care in the USA. Obama will be remembered for finally making some progress. And those mingy conservative cocksuckers in Congress will say the United States of America cannot afford it, while they piss away trillions of dollars a year. On Syria and Iraq, Obama will not be remembered well. The problem is that his policy is neither fish nor fowl. Commit or don't commit. Supporting the rebels on the promise they will by civilized when in power, is a foolish as Bush's. But no US Adminstration dares to withdraw from the ME, because they believe it will be seen as defeat. So Americans will continue to pour tax dollars down the drain and send their children off and hope they come back with both legs, and both eyes, for a cause that no one can define, and no one really likes. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by John Smith on Aug 29th, 2016 at 5:08pm
What is Obama's legacy, if anything?
He kept the republicans out of govt. for 8 years .... |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by lee on Aug 29th, 2016 at 5:50pm
He lowered his golf handicap.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Aug 30th, 2016 at 3:22am
More infactual and racist poo strewn together by Brietbart?
Definitely. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Aug 31st, 2016 at 12:37pm
I think if Abu bin went out on Times Square today, climbed on the back of a truck and started shouting "Yes we can", most people would walk away.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:10am
Even the former House majority leader Nancy Pelosi knows that Obama bears a lot of responsibility for the existence of IS.
A leaked memo sets out her views that the too rapid withdrawal of US troops from Iraq - all Obama's work - led to the foundation of IS and the capture from Iraqi military of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of US weapons. This rush to leave was part of his legacy for peace in the ME. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Fireball on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:31am
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:33am
What is his legacy?
Worst failure since Jimmy Carter. Destroyed Race relations between Americans. He helped create so many jobs people need two and three to meet expenses. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:47am
At least he wasn't a Canadian, morty torty.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:57am
Scores of Hollywood celebrities have died during his two terms in office.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 1st, 2016 at 9:32am Marla wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:47am:
That is true but all his real records are sealed. A Hawaiian birth certificate recorded by U. K. Lalee and a social security number from New England. A lifetime of school records no one can see because he spent a few million to keep them private. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 1st, 2016 at 10:33am
Did someone mention health reform as one of his great achievements?
MRC NewsBusters: February: Investigators from the Government Accountability Office successfully defraud the ObamaCare system 11 out of 12 times. No network evening news coverage March: The Congressional Budget Office says that ObamaCare will cost $136 billion more than predicted a year ago. The CBO also revealed that 9 million fewer people will have work-based coverage under ObamaCare than if the law had never been enacted. No network evening news coverage April - May: 1 million less people have coverage during 2016 than was estimated, and 12 of 23 insurance nonprofit plans will not offer coverage this year. During this time period, United Healthcare announced that it would pull out in all but a “handful of states.” It later announced it would be “dramatically scaling back its involvement” in ObamaCare, and pulled out of state exchanges in California. Only CBS Evening News covered this, and only for 23 seconds on April 19 April: Premiums rise, deductibles spike as high as 76 percent in some states No network evening news coverage May 12: Federal judge says the President is illegally using federal money to pay for premium subsidies No network evening news coverage August: Aetna announced that it plans to back out of ObamaCare, after losing $300 million this year from individual coverage sold on the ObamaCare exchanges. Aetna and Humana join UnitedHealth in pulling out of ObamaCare. Only CBS Evening News covered this, for 1 minute, 55 seconds on August 16 August: UnitedHealth Group, Health Care Service Corp, Highmark and Blue Cross & Blue Shield all report losses in the hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. No network evening news coverage (But don't worry, Hillary will fix all this in his third term) |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 1st, 2016 at 11:54am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 10:33am:
Moving up in the world from Breitbart? bogarde73 wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 10:33am:
High-profile insurance companies in America are now in a mass exodus from the exchanges set up under the program popularly known as Obamacare that much is true. It is also true that Obama’s bullshit signature domestic programs upon which NONE of them actually provided near-universal, high-quality health care for Americans are now limiting their coverage in large parts all over the god damn county leaving it to the for-profit private insurance companies to call all the shots when it comes to quality care and price. It was a scam from the start. And if Obamie didn't do it, some asshat Rethuglicon would. Now that America's major three private insurers: UnitedHealth, Humana and Aetna are pulling out porn star style from the Obamacare market on the claim of "falling profits" other insurance giants are in large part jumping Obama's sinking ship, leaving many Americans such as myself totally buggered with with just one or two plans to choose from. Of course, those companies who choose to remain will bugger over Americans royal while they request and most likely be granted double-digit premium increases for their rotten services. Yes, higher premiums, higher out-of pocket costs, and narrower provider networks all thanks to pseudo-socialism that really flies under the flag of capitalism. Grumpy Trumpy could only make it worse. So enough with the Goebbels nonsense. :( |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 1st, 2016 at 1:01pm
So as usual you've got zero.
Where are the great achievements of this shining knight on a white horse yelling Yes we can!? You tell me. I can only see a waste of space. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by lee on Sep 1st, 2016 at 2:34pm
You have to understand the level of education in Colorado.
'‘We will not, at any time, debate the science of climate change’ Three professors co-teaching an online course called “Medical Humanities in the Digital Age” at the University of Colorado-Colorado Springs recently told their students via email that man-made climate change is not open for debate, and those who think otherwise have no place in their course. “The point of departure for this course is based on the scientific premise that human induced climate change is valid and occurring. We will not, at any time, debate the science of climate change, nor will the ‘other side’ of the climate change debate be taught or discussed in this course,” states the email, a copy of which was provided to The College Fix by a student in the course. Signed by the course’s professors Rebecca Laroche, Wendy Haggren and Eileen Skahill, it was sent after several students expressed concern for their success in the course after watching the first online lecture about the impacts of climate change. “Opening up a debate that 98% of climate scientists unequivocally agree to be a non-debate would detract from the central concerns of environment and health addressed in this course,” the professors’ email continued. “… If you believe this premise to be an issue for you, we respectfully ask that you do not take this course, as there are options within the Humanities program for face to face this semester and online next.”' http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28825/ The three professors have as their specialities - genetic engineering of yeast, 16th-17th English (with research in early modern recipes), and the Sociology of climate change. And they can't even get the 97% claim right. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 1st, 2016 at 3:05pm Marla wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 11:54am:
A Masterful dissertation there, Marla, but alas, it remains to be seen how these problems will be solved under the next US administration. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 1st, 2016 at 3:30pm lee wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 2:34pm:
This puts me in mind of the last item on SBS News last night . . .and I think you'll understand why. They ran a whole lot of footage of people stealing or pulling down Donald Trump signs. Now I know it happens everywhere, including here, but this seemed to be something of an epidemic. And the funny thing was in many cases people would stop their car, quickly get out, steal the sign, quickly get back in & drive away. Now, the guy filming one sequence went up to the people in the car and said: "Why are you doing this" "Because we don't like your politics" came the answer, and then "Anyway we're teenagers (which they didn't look to be) so I guess we get some leeway on this." The stupid stupid people who do this have never considered that when they take away another person's freedom of speech, they are diminishing their own at the same time. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Panther on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:56pm Obama's Legacy ......... A Seven Letter Word .......... |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 7:19am
Topic: Obama's legacy.
Lee's input... lee wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 2:34pm:
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 7:20am Panther wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:56pm:
A seven-letter word spelled with 21 letters Are Panther and Lee the same person? |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:10am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 1:01pm:
You are such a god damn hippie, I swear. Let's see, what do Obama do? Well...no, lets not start there. Obamie did appoint Timothy "assface" Geithner as treasury secretary to send out an unambiguous smoke signal to Wall Street that its corporate/capiltist interests would be protected at all cost. Yeah, he did do that. Assface Central Assface Geithner served as the big-wig of the Federal Reserve Bank while the Obama Administration overlooked the the inflation of the subprime mortgage bubble that exploded in late 2007 that eventually led to the September 2008 financial meltdown that so buggered over America it never has recovered. Assface here was one of Obamie's main douchenozzles, along with that (Texuun) Bush-appointed hack of a Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chair Nazi Bernanke. Remember them? They were the architect of TARP program who allowed for the subsequent infusions of public funds to be funneled right back into into the corrupt banking and financial system. So Obama did do that, yeah. Then- Obama gave the all mighty "bugger you" to any government-imposed limits when it came to the salaries (and bonuses) of all those Wall Street Nazi's executive bankers AND corporations that received billions of dollars in federal handouts and guarantees through TARP. So yeah, Obama did do that. Obama also allowed for the US Federal Reserve to lower its benchmark interest rate to near zero (or close to it) while adopting the policy of something called “quantitative easing” that also funneled trillions of dollars into the financial markets. So yeah, Obamie did do that. Then - Obama reappointed Bernanke sometime in 2009 and his femme fatale financial assassin Janet Yellen (another Nazi) as his successor in 2013 in order to fully support the continuation of his buggered-up policy. Some legacy! Of course, this in return gave a boner rise that has greatly exacerbated the growth of social inequality upon which many Americans are paying for today. Obama made god damn sure the wealth of some odd 400 richest individuals in the America went from a measly $1.27 trillion in 2009 to to a whopping $2.34 trillion in 2015. Legacy or what? So you see, not everybody was left with "zero" Hippie. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:34am
Another doctoral thesis submission by hippyphobic Marla, bogey. She flies like a butterfly and stings like a bee.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:38am
There was once a time when Boey was cool. A time before Brietbart.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by John Smith on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:39am Marla wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:38am:
and then you got to know him a little :D :D |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:40am
Oh and Panther was never cool.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:55am Marla wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:38am:
Bogey is a gentleman through and through, and so you get the very best of his good manners and gallantry with regard to the Weaker Sex, bitch! Instead of insulting him with crude and disgusting invective such as Hippie!, it's time you reciprocated in like kind with his courteous treatment of you by offering him an olive-branch of peace-and-harmony. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:04am
Allow me to explain something to you.
Typical day at the Breitbart (pseudo) journalism offices: Brietbart pseudojournalist 1: "Whatcha doing?" Brietbart pseudojournalist 2: "Nuthin'" Brietbart pseudojournalist 1: "Want to make something up?" Brietbart pseudojouralist 2: "Sure! What do we have to do?" Brietbart pseudojournalist 1: "That's the beauty of it. We don't have to fact check, research, or even interview. We just make it up as we go along. But, you know, keep it anti-Hillary." |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:05am Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 9:55am:
Hippie is cool. No probs with that. Goebbels & Hitler are problematic. But I think I perceive that marla has not been duped by the Obama fan club. Now she just needs to see the logic & necessity of Trump and vote for him. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:10am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:05am:
I never called you Hitler, hippie. You do on the other hand regurgitate Goebbels-like propaganda straight from Brietbart. For that, there is no excuse. bogarde73 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:05am:
Huh? What fan club? I never voted for the guy. I found him to be pretentious and full of crap from the start. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:29am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:05am:
I've been softening her up with 50 shades of flattery so that eventually she'll capitulate and agree to sign off on Trump becoming the next President. Have you seen a mongoose doing the Quick-Step with a deadly Cobra? That's me and Marla doing the Rumba. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdg9gkmWsEA |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:35am Marla wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:10am:
A closet racist, bogey. Disgusting. What will Bill Cosby think of her after this confession? Meanwhile ... more foreplay with Marla-the-Mamba .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRowC6t8tjA |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 5th, 2016 at 12:49am
China Humiliates Obama, Denies Him Red Carpet
September 4, 2016 Daniel Greenfield The official narrative is that the trip was supposed to be a diplomatic triumph for Obama highlighted by the worthless climate deal (though quite expensive for the US as usual) with Obama pretending to press China over its expansionism. But China made sure to humiliate Obama right out of the starting gate. And I do mean gate. China’s leaders have been accused of delivering a calculated diplomatic snub to Barack Obama after the US president was denied a red-carpet welcome during his chaotic arrival in Hangzhou ahead of the start of the G20. Chinese authorities have rolled out the red carpet for leaders including India’s prime minister Narendra Modi, Russian president Vladimir Putin, South Korean president Park Geun-hye, Brazil’s president Michel Temer and British prime minister Theresa May, who touched down on Sunday morning. But the leader of the world’s largest economy, who is on his final tour of Asia, was forced to disembark from Air Force One through a little-used exit in the plane’s belly after no rolling staircase was provided when he landed in the eastern Chinese city on Saturday afternoon. When Obama did find his way onto the tarmac, there were heated altercations between US and Chinese officials, with one Chinese official caught on video shouting: “This is our country! This is our airport!” Smart power, “The reception that President Obama and his staff got when they arrived here Saturday afternoon was bruising, even by Chinese standards,” the New York Times reported. But a little more appeasement should do the trick. Bill Bishop, a China expert whose Sinocism newsletter tracks the country’s political scene, agreed that Obama’s no-carpet welcome looked suspiciously like a deliberate slight intended “to make the Americans look diminished and weak”. “It sure looks like a straight up snub,” Bishop said. “This clearly plays very much into the [idea]: ‘Look, we can make the American president go out of the ass of the plane.’” We can make him do anything as a matter of fact. Susan Rice, the US national security adviser, admitted she had been surprised by the handling of the president’s arrival. “They did things that weren’t anticipated,”she told reporters. The New York Times said Rice had appeared “baffled and annoyed” that the president had been forced to leave Air Force One through a door normally reserved for high-security trips to places such as Afghanistan. Anyone with a serious national security background could have anticipated that Obama's weakness would invite more humiliation. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Setanta on Sep 5th, 2016 at 1:06am Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:35am:
You de mongoose! |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 5th, 2016 at 6:00am Mortdooley wrote on Sep 5th, 2016 at 12:49am:
This is a seriously disturbing huge breach of protocol for it being a blatant act of aggression from a country that values 'face' above all else. The pathetic childishness of this act of humiliation is also a worry in itself when this comes from political authorities who have immense military power. Scary stuff. No doubt there'll be 'payback' the next time a Chinese dignitary arrives in the US for 'talks'. It'll be interesting to hear what Trump thinks about this, and what would his response be in Obama's position. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 5th, 2016 at 6:58am bogarde73 wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 3:15pm:
After either Trump or Hillary take over you'll be wishing Obama was still there. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 5th, 2016 at 7:32am
Not really Bobby. If Clinton wins I'll be wishing Trump had won.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 5th, 2016 at 7:57am Mortdooley wrote on Sep 5th, 2016 at 12:49am:
Texuun-educated news, ladies and sexist douchebags. Yes, BLAME Obama for weak investment, lack of underlying growth, and what the capitalist IMF deems “dismal productivity trends.” Strange how the capitalist/corporate news overlooks that. "Hey China, pull my finger." What? No homage to IMF Illuminazi Christine Lagarde and her "low growth" blogging? Strange that in Obama's America second quarter growth was at a measly 1.1 percent annual rate, less than half the consensus forecast (as deemed by capitalism) thus making China a “disappointing business investment.” Not many Americans (except for a few fat Texuuns) want to buy Chinese manufactured junk anymore. Even Grumpy Trumpy knows this even though half of his "great, best" poo is made there by 10 year-old children. So, anyway, Obama and weak growth also reflects in low inflation across most advanced and emerging economies with a lot of industry which means Chinese exporters are putting downward pressure on the prices of trade goods. Seems the slowdown in global trade since the 2008 financial collapse was a result of low investment and weak growth which was going on way before Obamie ever came into the picture. Global trade is buggered and has been for some time and now China throws a hissy fit? IMF Illuminazi Lagarge knows it best. You can say from early 1980 to late 1990's global trade was growing at an exponential rate almost double the pace of global GDP. Now, thanks to capitalism and insatiable greed (especially by the Chinese), it can barely keep itself out of the shitter. But yeah China, blame Obama. Everybody else does. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:06am
Poor Marlon, to be such a bitter bitch is it's own reward.
Obama is a weak leader, he could never grew into the job. He came to the Senate as a Chicago community organizer (black agitator) who represented the poorme I'm a victim black slackers. If he had never made it to the Senate he would probably be the local head of the New Black Panthers shaking down businesses for "contributions" like jesse jackson. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 6th, 2016 at 1:53am Mortdooley wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:06am:
So says the Texuun whose state voted for a Canadian. Mortdooley wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:06am:
Awesome! If Grumpy Trumpy becomes Pressie maybe you can finally get yourself a job herding up 'doose Mexsecuns' on cattle cars. You show them what "shakedown" truly means, Texuun. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Karnal on Sep 6th, 2016 at 8:40am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:10am:
Strange. He inherited the withdrawal timetable from Bush. Shurely shome mishtake, nein? |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:29pm
It seems that the new President of the Philippines has called O bozo a son of a bitch. So much for the final leg of Barry's world apology tour.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Rhino on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:35pm Mortdooley wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:29pm:
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:55pm
Carter is a close second but barry is the worst. The only one more dishonest was LBJ, he sent a whole generation to war on a false flag event. Obama just helped Iran get their nuclear weapons program up and running. The day may come when they smuggle bombs inside our country through our open borders.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 6th, 2016 at 1:04pm Mortdooley wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:55pm:
LOl, so you choose to ignore all history in Irans weapons programs prior to 2008? |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 6th, 2016 at 8:23pm
If Carter had not supported the Mullahs against the Shah of Iran that country and the western world would be a much safer place!
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 7th, 2016 at 7:36am
Did he really support the mullahs mort? I don't remember that.
It certainly came back to bite him on the bum then. I quite liked Jimmy Carter even if he seemed ineffectual. He had a Pepsodent smile. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:54am
https://youtu.be/-mVBEANQ4j8
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 7th, 2016 at 1:49pm Quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/opinion/the-incredible-shrinking-obamacare.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-2&action=click&contentCollection=Opinion®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article obamacare failure |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 10th, 2016 at 3:30pm
The title of this piece by Charles Hurt in the Washington Times sums up the foreign policy legacy as neatly as could be:
Obama’s foreign policy — all the surrender, none of the peace Finally, we have the Obama Doctrine: “Surrender without peace.” This follows George W. Bush’s policy: “Break everything. Put on credit card.” Everybody remembers the Monroe Doctrine, jealously defending the U.S. sphere of influence in North and South America from European meddling. Normally, presidential foreign policy doctrines do not end in a question mark. But Bill Clinton rewrote all the rules from foreign policy to personal decency inside the Oval Office. His doctrine: “Fries come with that shake, honey?” (Note to reader: Best read aloud in a hoarse Arkansas twang.) Ronald Reagan had a few that worked pretty well. “Peace through strength” and “Trust but verify” seemed to do a pretty good job of keep the world on its toes and our enemies at bay. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have not officially announced what their foreign policy doctrines would be, but isn’t it pretty well clear by now? Riding as she does her husband’s coattails everywhere she goes, Hillary Clinton ends at least one of her doctrines with a question mark: “Cash or credit?” Her other doctrines would be more declarative. “Pay here.” That one includes a red arrow pointing to Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. The other one: “Insert cash or credit into slot.” What is really cutting edge about that last one is that it comes with ATM machines to be installed in 7-Elevens around the world, particularly in third world countries led by savage dictators and brutal theocracies where women are second-class citizens and little girls are tortured. The only difference is that these machines do not dispense cash. They only collect payments. Donald Trump has not declared his foreign policy doctrine yet either but since he is an avowed white nationalist xenophobe, it will most certainly be “America First.” Oh the horror! Somewhere James Monroe is turning over in his grave. But for at least four more months, we must settle for “Surrender without peace.” That is assuming Mr. Obama does not declare this November’s election null and void after Mr. Trump wins in a massive orange landslide — like a giant, gooey Creamsicle melting in the urban heat and slowly sliding down the National Mall and filling the streets of D.C. and oozing through the White House gates. (By the way, am I the only person who finds it curious that the moment all these officials start screaming about Russia rigging the election happens to be the very same moment Mr. Trump started beating Mrs. Clinton in the latest CNN poll? Just a coincidence, I am sure.) Anyway, “Surrender without peace” is not pretty, but it is what we have. And it is what we have had for going on eight years now. It is what paved the way for a future nuclear Iran and rewarded them handsomely with pallets of cash for kidnapping Americans. That was the largest terrorist bailout program in world history. “Surrender without peace” is what gets children gassed in Syria after declaring a “red line” against chemical weapons use. “Surrender without peace” is what promotes human trafficking and child rape on death trains headed for the U.S. Southern border after you invited tens of thousands of illegals illegally into the country. Illegally. “Surrender without peace” is what attracts Iranian boats to taunt U.S. warships and Russian jets to buzz American planes. “Surrender without peace” is what invites the president of the Philippines to publicly declare that Mr. Obama is a “son of a whore.” And it is what emboldens the Chinese to publicly humiliate him by refusing to allow him to deplane Air Force One except though the little aft hole at the back of the plane. “America First” cannot come soon enough. Heck, even “Cash or credit?” might be something of an improvement. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 10th, 2016 at 10:12pm Quote:
https://www.rt.com/usa/348799-unprecedented-heroin-use-overdose/ Obama was in charge for this period. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 10th, 2016 at 11:48pm
https://youtu.be/F5HeL0OUTQ4
the abuse of power such that americans would be deceived and lied to, then laughed at and called stupid. ending up with a failing obamacare and ......well, watch the last minute here |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 11th, 2016 at 3:21pm bogarde73 wrote on Sep 10th, 2016 at 3:30pm:
This deserves to be seen over & over. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 14th, 2016 at 3:25pm
But one thing he will do . . .he'll protect his Saudi friends:
WASHINGTON, D.C. — President Barack Obama intends to veto bipartisan legislation that would allow the families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia, according to the White House. “So the President feels quite strongly about this. And our concern is not limited to the impact it could have on a relationship with one country, but rather it could have an impact on our relationship with every country around the world in a way that has negative consequences for the United States, for our national security, and for our men and women in uniform,” noted White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest on Monday. “That is still the plan. The President does intend to veto this legislation,” responded Earnest when asked if Obama still planned to veto the bill. Earnest explained: The other concern that we have also articulated is that this law actually opens up the United States to risk being hauled into court in countries around the world. The concept of sovereign immunity is one that protects the United States as much as any other country in the world, given the way the United States is engaged in the world. So it’s not hard to imagine other countries using this law as an excuse to haul U.S. diplomats or U.S. servicemembers, or even U.S. companies into courts all around the world. On Monday, the six-member nation of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), on which the Saudis play a leading role, came out against the legislation, saying it “contravenes the foundations and principles of relations between states, notably sovereign immunity.” With strong support in the GOP-controlled Congress, the bipartisan bill, which would grant families of 9/11 victims the ability to sue Saudi Arabia for any alleged links to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, passed both the House and the Senate by a voice vote. A presidential veto could push Congress to consider a veto override, a move that has not been successful during the current administration. The bill passed in the House last Friday, days before the 15th year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. In the Senate, the legislation was approved in May. President Obama had repeatedly indicated it would veto the bill before its passage. Even top Democrats like New York Senator Charles Schumer urged the president to pass the bill. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 14th, 2016 at 3:31pm Heroin usage up 300% |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 17th, 2016 at 10:29pm |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 20th, 2016 at 12:02pm
Obama had campaigned in 2008 on closing Guantánamo . . . .
Almost seven years later, much to Obama's frustration, the facility remained open. Closing it had proved much more challenging than Obama had theorized as a candidate trying to win an election and a new president acting on his idealism. It turned out that the jihadists who remained in Guantánamo were there for a reason. Many of them were truly, as the cliché had it, "the worst of the worst." Al Qaeda leaders, top Taliban officials, the men who planned the 9/11 attacks, veteran jihadists caught plotting follow-on attacks on U.S. interests, and even those al Qaeda operatives believed to be charged with carrying out the next wave of assaults on the U.S. homeland. The news in the president's interview wasn't that he intended to make good on his promise to close Guantánamo, however belatedly. It was instead the president's attempt to mislead the American people to accomplish his controversial objective. "I am absolutely persuaded, as are my top intelligence and military advisers, that Guantánamo is used as a recruitment tool for organizations like ISIS," Obama said, endeavoring to create a national security rationale for closing the detention facility. "And if we want to fight them, then we can't give them these kinds of excuses." This isn't true. There is virtually no evidence that jihadists use Guantánamo as a significant recruiting tool, and national security experts from across the political spectrum who have tested the claim have judged it false. More: http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-disgraceful-gitmo-exodus/article/2004371 |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 25th, 2016 at 7:54pm Quote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/22/shocker-hillary-clinton-has-women-problem-ohio/ |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 25th, 2016 at 8:16pm Quote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/23/obama-vetoes-9-11-victims-bill/ |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by mortdooley on Sep 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm
You should lay all the black men killed by Police followed by Riots directly at Obamas feet! Here is his legacy, a bunch of low IQ thugs and wannabe bad asses frightening armed Police Officers! Before the 2008 election I had people I considered friends who are Black, skin color wasn't an issue with me. After the election everything in their lives became about Race, they would get offended or frightened over the most insignificant or imagined slight. We have all known people that would get some type of promotion and it would go to their head. Obama was their promotion and Police assaults and Riots are the result.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Baronvonrort on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:42pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 8:16pm:
One of the worst presidents to ever be elected in the USA. Foreign policy a total disaster, there was no Islamic state before the Arab spring. If Bush is a war criminal because of Iraq then surely Obama is a war criminal for his regime changes in Libya,Tunisia and Syria, are any of those countries as stable as the Iraq Obama inherited. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Marla on Sep 26th, 2016 at 5:36am Mortdooley wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm:
Oh, you mean the ones who cook your hamburgers? |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 26th, 2016 at 7:36am Marla wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 5:36am:
Be quiet WallStGirl, men are expressing serious opinions here. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by NorthOfNorth on Sep 26th, 2016 at 8:46am Mortdooley wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm:
Skin colour is seldom the true issue that manifests as 'racism'... Its socio-cultural (non) identification that is the true cause. Its almost impossible to truly dislike someone based solely on skin colour when he/she speaks, acts and lives socially and culturally like you do. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 26th, 2016 at 3:23pm
What a fine mess you've got us into Stanley!
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by spunk lord on Sep 26th, 2016 at 4:16pm
Obama wont be remembered as a commander in chief, but rather as a divider in chief, given the direction of the intense racial division in america.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by spunk lord on Sep 26th, 2016 at 5:36pm |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:04am
Doctor: Now tell me Mr Smith, when was it do you think that you started getting these premonitions of approaching death?
Smith: Well Doctor, I guess they started around the time President Obama signed the Affordable Health Care Act. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Unforgiven on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:14am Mortdooley wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 10:50pm:
You forgot to preface your remarks with "I am not a racist or a bigot". Perhaps its Mort Dooley who has changed and not his black 'friends'. Perhaps Mort doesn't like his 'black friends' getting uppity and forgetting their 'place'. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:19am
Unforgivable, have you got a pass to get into this board? It's a special place you know, reserved for a select group.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Unforgiven on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:20am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:04am:
Bogarde73 breaks through the bottom of the barrel and sinks to new depths. I call BS on you Bogarde73. The Affordable Health Care Act saved lives. http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2014/12/02/acas-hospital-penalties-help-save-12-billion-save-50000-lives/#16710e5c5d80 Quote:
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:26am
Chastened I am. Self-immolation is my just punishment.
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Unforgiven on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:29am |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:35am
HuffPo? You quote HuffPo at me?
I will be incommunicado for a period, in Safe Room. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Panther on Sep 29th, 2016 at 2:32pm
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A shameful Anti-American action by an Anti-American President, Barrack Hussein Obama, one that supported Islamic Terrorists over Justice for American Citizens....citizens he was sworn to defend......is sent down to flaming defeat......Obama's very first defeat of it's kind, one which will surely mark Obama's Presidency for all time as being the worst in American History........America's Failed Experiment! .. |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by bogarde73 on Sep 29th, 2016 at 2:38pm
Eight years slow to act?
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Panther on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 11:16am
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Obama gives the rights & control of the Internet away, & in turn it will be handed off to rogue nations to do with as they please. http://tinyurl.com/z3q6dfa |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Unforgiven on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 12:08pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYB-NuW_SRo
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Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Redmond Neck on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm |
Title: Re: What is Obama's legacy, if anything? Post by Panther on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 5:52pm Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm: It's called the American way, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Edward_Hickson Maybe the concept isn't an American original, but it's definitely put to practice over there. They don't scoff at an individuals burning desire to succeed......their laws encourage it vigorously. The American Legal system encourages people to give entrepreneurship a go, & if you fail, there are ways to dust yourself off, & try again, & again, & again. I read a few years back that there was this American guy....not Trump.....that failed about 2 dozen times before he finally succeeded, & at that time his last business was flourishing successfully for over 20 years. ;) |
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