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Message started by spunk lord on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:20pm

Title: The first presidential debate
Post by spunk lord on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:20pm
Hillary Clinton looks like she will win the first debate, lol

I hope I'm wrong

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by AiA on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:26pm
Can you imagine if Hillary had invited the Jane Doe who is suing Trump for raping her when she was 13? Wouldn't that be a freak show? Loudmouth billionaire Mark Cuban, Jennifer Flowers who is an old woman now and who is being used once again and Trump's child rape victim. Jesus.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Greens_Win on Sep 26th, 2016 at 7:33am
If Clinton doesn't put Trump away this debate, it's very bad new for the world economy. A draw is bad news too.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by spunk lord on Sep 26th, 2016 at 12:16pm
Hillary clinton has been a lawyer before being in politics, and has been a politician for 30 years, she would know the ins and outs of debating more so than trump.

Trump has never been a politician until last year, and has had mixed results in the GOP primary debates.

I just feel that hillary has an edge over trunp.

I can be wrong on this though. Lol

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by spunk lord on Sep 26th, 2016 at 12:17pm

Also media reports state that hillary clinton has taken time off in the last few days to practice and prepare for the debate, even using one of her campaign aides who does a good impersonation of trump to have hillary practice off.


Trump meanwhile likes to use his time for more rallies


We shall all see though who is better prepared



Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by lee on Sep 26th, 2016 at 1:23pm
Which other female lawyers in politics do we know?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 26th, 2016 at 2:11pm
One result of the debate can be predicted now with absolute certainty.
The major networks and the MSM will all call it a win for Hillary.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by AiA on Sep 26th, 2016 at 11:50pm
A professional wrestler like Trump could smack down Clinton in a debate simply because he has nothing to lose ... he is a narcissistic bullying baby hiding behind a veneer of self-confidence.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by AiA on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:42am
Hillary needs another one of these moments but this time with Trump. Lazio lost the race with this performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJZo4UeTYQ

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Marla on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:19am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
One result of the debate can be predicted now with absolute certainty.
The major networks and the MSM will all call it a win for Hillary.



As the pseudojournalism media outlets like Brietfart will predictably say otherwise.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:20am

AiA wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:26pm:
Can you imagine if Hillary had invited the Jane Doe who is suing Trump for raping her when she was 13? Wouldn't that be a freak show? Loudmouth billionaire Mark Cuban, Jennifer Flowers who is an old woman now and who is being used once again and Trump's child rape victim. Jesus.




Very funny- both of these 2 clowns have too much baggage.

Couldn't the USA find 2 better candidates?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by AiA on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:52am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:20am:

AiA wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:26pm:
Can you imagine if Hillary had invited the Jane Doe who is suing Trump for raping her when she was 13? Wouldn't that be a freak show? Loudmouth billionaire Mark Cuban, Jennifer Flowers who is an old woman now and who is being used once again and Trump's child rape victim. Jesus.




Very funny- both of these 2 clowns have too much baggage.

Couldn't the USA find 2 better candidates?


You would think in a country of 300 million there must be somebody ...

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by cods on Sep 27th, 2016 at 9:34am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:20am:

AiA wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:26pm:
Can you imagine if Hillary had invited the Jane Doe who is suing Trump for raping her when she was 13? Wouldn't that be a freak show? Loudmouth billionaire Mark Cuban, Jennifer Flowers who is an old woman now and who is being used once again and Trump's child rape victim. Jesus.




Very funny- both of these 2 clowns have too much baggage.

Couldn't the USA find 2 better candidates?



bobs... we have no better....both cringe worthy

it will become the lesser of the two evils... simple as that..

voters in America are as dumb as we are..

we vote for whom ever a select group tell us is the best we have.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

my god if they are the best god help the worst.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:13am
I won't be watching. I've got too many other things to do. Apart from that I can't stand DJT's high-pitched voice.

PS it must be going well for the Donald - the market is in bad shape this morning.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Bias_2012 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25am
Moderator is losing control

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by cods on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:31am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:13am:
I won't be watching. I've got too many other things to do. Apart from that I can't stand DJT's high-pitched voice.

PS it must be going well for the Donald - the market is in bad shape this morning.



I would if I could... bawahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:39am
I am watching bits and pieces of it and in my opinion the Donald has it ALL over Hillary so far.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:52am
Just saw five minutes, strange how Trump seems to htink that not referring to something in a simplistic manner like Law and Order or Radical Islamic Terrorism somehow means that you arent interested in the subject or dont know what it is.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:55am

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:39am:
I am watching bits and pieces of it and in my opinion the Donald has it ALL over Hillary so far.



Are you watching the same debate as me?  :o

Hillary is wiping the floor with him.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:08pm
Trump is coming across as a pig-ignorant narcissist.

Which of course he is.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Unforgiven on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:13pm
Rattled?


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Fireball on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm
The debate was a draw. Trump missed a few opportunities to reel her in; the email debacle, her husband’s transgressions, sexual and policy, both whilst in the Oval Office, her health, her money making under the table deals with ME countries concerning her ‘foundations’. On the whole Trump held his temper at the expense of bringing up her transgressions, so he definitely wasn’t defeated or ‘she wiped the floor with him’ as some knucklehead here posted.

The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Unforgiven on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:51pm

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The debate was a draw. Trump missed a few opportunities to reel her in; the email debacle, her husband’s transgressions, sexual and policy, both whilst in the Oval Office, her health, her money making under the table deals with ME countries concerning her ‘foundations’. On the whole Trump held his temper at the expense of bringing up her transgressions, so he definitely wasn’t defeated or ‘she wiped the floor with him’ as some knucklehead here posted.

The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.


Is Fireball Spunk Lord's boyfriend?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:02pm

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.



Trump kept speaking over the top of the moderator,  not the other way round.

Fact checks have got Trump wrong or lying over a dozen times.

It was a convincing win for Clinton.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Fireball on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:03pm

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The debate was a draw. Trump missed a few opportunities to reel her in; the email debacle, her husband’s transgressions, sexual and policy, both whilst in the Oval Office, her health, her money making under the table deals with ME countries concerning her ‘foundations’. On the whole Trump held his temper at the expense of bringing up her transgressions, so he definitely wasn’t defeated or ‘she wiped the floor with him’ as some knucklehead here posted.

The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.


Is Fireball Spunk Lord's boyfriend?


You’re a sad little pipsqueak. If you had half a brain you’d be dangerous, but what else can we expect from an inconsequential native……

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Unforgiven on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:05pm

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:03pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The debate was a draw. Trump missed a few opportunities to reel her in; the email debacle, her husband’s transgressions, sexual and policy, both whilst in the Oval Office, her health, her money making under the table deals with ME countries concerning her ‘foundations’. On the whole Trump held his temper at the expense of bringing up her transgressions, so he definitely wasn’t defeated or ‘she wiped the floor with him’ as some knucklehead here posted.

The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.


Is Fireball Spunk Lord's boyfriend?


You’re a sad little pipsqueak. If you had half a brain you’d be dangerous, but what else can we expect from an inconsequential native……


Is that yes?
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Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Fireball on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:06pm

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.



Trump kept speaking over the top of the moderator,  not the other way round.

Fact checks have got Trump wrong or lying over a dozen times.

It was a convincing win for Clinton.


The usual nonsense from you.


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:08pm
So essentially the conclusion I've reached is who ever won depends on who you support.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:08pm

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:06pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.



Trump kept speaking over the top of the moderator,  not the other way round.

Fact checks have got Trump wrong or lying over a dozen times.

It was a convincing win for Clinton.


The usual nonsense from you.


An argument worthy of Trump himself.  ;D

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:10pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:08pm:
So essentially the conclusion I've reached is who ever won depends on who you support.



Observers are handing the win to Clinton.  Overwhelmingly.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:13pm
I would've asked Hillary if she knew about Bill's 100's of affairs with his co workers.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Fireball on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
I would've asked Hillary if she knew about Bill's 100's of affairs with his co workers.


And as Colin Powell said, he's still "still dicking bimbos".....

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:37pm

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
I would've asked Hillary if she knew about Bill's 100's of affairs with his co workers.


And as Colin Powell said, he's still "still dicking bimbos".....
I can imagine their home life

Hillary- Bill, you didn't spoof all over that womans dress did you?

Bill- ahhhh, it was an accident baby.

:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:56pm
I have just checked 3 online polls and each of them put Trump ahead.

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/

http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

Hillary wiped the floor with him?  My God some of you come you come up with delusional nonsense.

Whatever the outcome it will not be overwhelming either way.


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:02pm

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
I have just checked 3 online polls and each of them put Trump ahead.

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/

http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

Hillary wiped the floor with him?  My God some of you come you come up with delusional nonsense.

Whatever the outcome it will not be overwhelming either way.



Not sure online surveys mean too much

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:05pm
Online surveys mean nothing.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:06pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
I have just checked 3 online polls and each of them put Trump ahead.

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/

http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

Hillary wiped the floor with him?  My God some of you come you come up with delusional nonsense.

Whatever the outcome it will not be overwhelming either way.



Not sure online surveys mean too much


They certainly mean more than postulating about wiping floors   :)

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:20pm

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.


Which is YOUR opinion that (as yet) the majority do not share   ...    and  ...   OMG   ...  guess what?   That's postulating! 

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:26pm

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:20pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.


Which is YOUR opinion that (as yet) the majority do not share   ...    and  ...   OMG   ...  guess what?   That's postulating! 



Have you actually listened to the commentators? 

Read the fact checks?

Or are you intellectually restricted to online surveys?

Did you actually watch the debate?

Again.  No postulation.  Statement of fact.

Perhaps it would help you to look up "postulating" in the dictionary?

Google can help.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Neferti on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:29pm

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:48pm:
The debate was a draw. Trump missed a few opportunities to reel her in; the email debacle, her husband’s transgressions, sexual and policy, both whilst in the Oval Office, her health, her money making under the table deals with ME countries concerning her ‘foundations’. On the whole Trump held his temper at the expense of bringing up her transgressions, so he definitely wasn’t defeated or ‘she wiped the floor with him’ as some knucklehead here posted.

The moderator (Lester Holt) was also biased in his attitude towards Trump, constantly interrupting him, and preventing him from replying to Clinton's babble, also asking questions which contained blatant falsities about his stance on the Iraq War. It is obvious that Holt is a Clinton supporter.


Is Fireball Spunk Lord's boyfriend?


No, he's mine you jerk.  ;D Aussie is your boyfriend.  ;)

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:33pm

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:06pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 2:56pm:
I have just checked 3 online polls and each of them put Trump ahead.

http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/

http://patch.com/georgia/atlanta/hillary-clinton-or-donald-trump-who-won-presidential-debate

http://time.com/4506217/presidential-debate-clinton-trump-survey/

Hillary wiped the floor with him?  My God some of you come you come up with delusional nonsense.

Whatever the outcome it will not be overwhelming either way.



Not sure online surveys mean too much


They certainly mean more than postulating about wiping floors   :)



So just slightly more than zero.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Aussie on Sep 27th, 2016 at 4:27pm

AiA wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:42am:
Hillary needs another one of these moments but this time with Trump. Lazio lost the race with this performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJZo4UeTYQ


Gee, hasn't she really bloated up (physically) in 16 years.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Agnes on Sep 27th, 2016 at 4:39pm
27% Trump and 62 Clinton- she cleaned up lol


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate-poll/

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:19pm
From the link  ...


Quote:
A CNN/ORC poll of debate watchers released after the event found 62% felt Clinton won compared to 27% for Trump. The poll suggests the debate audience was a bit more Democratic than the public as a whole, about on par with the Democratic tilt in the audience that watched the first debate in 2008 between Obama and John McCain.


::)

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Neferti on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:23pm
Usual tactics. Media is always "left" .... until they grow up and hit middle age.  ;D

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:40pm

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
From the link  ...


Quote:
A CNN/ORC poll of debate watchers released after the event found 62% felt Clinton won compared to 27% for Trump. The poll suggests the debate audience was a bit more Democratic than the public as a whole, about on par with the Democratic tilt in the audience that watched the first debate in 2008 between Obama and John McCain.


::)



A "bit more Democratic" doesn't account for 62 to 27 ... LOL!

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by cods on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Agnes on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:05pm
she soundly thrashed  him- 62 v 27 definitely.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by The Mechanic on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:15pm
well done Trump..

first win of many..

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Black Orchid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   



Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Neferti on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:59pm
I honestly can NOT understand why any Aussie would decide to watch an American Political anything.

Don't we get enough of the local dickhead pollies without wasting our time on what goes on in the USA, UK or wherever?

WHO CARES?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:00pm

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 9:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:20am:

AiA wrote on Sep 25th, 2016 at 11:26pm:
Can you imagine if Hillary had invited the Jane Doe who is suing Trump for raping her when she was 13? Wouldn't that be a freak show? Loudmouth billionaire Mark Cuban, Jennifer Flowers who is an old woman now and who is being used once again and Trump's child rape victim. Jesus.




Very funny- both of these 2 clowns have too much baggage.

Couldn't the USA find 2 better candidates?



bobs... we have no better....both cringe worthy

it will become the lesser of the two evils... simple as that..

voters in America are as dumb as we are..

we vote for whom ever a select group tell us is the best we have.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

my god if they are the best god help the worst.



You're right - they are both creepy.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Sir Bobby on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
I honestly can NOT understand why any Aussie would decide to watch an American Political anything.

Don't we get enough of the local dickhead pollies without wasting our time on what goes on in the USA, UK or wherever?

WHO CARES?




I care - imagine Trump in charge of the nuclear button?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by tomny8406 on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:18pm
First Presidential Debate 2016 - Hillary Clinton Vs Donald Trump - Full Video

youtube.com/watch?v=oWciUyWgW-8

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Neferti on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:17pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
I honestly can NOT understand why any Aussie would decide to watch an American Political anything.

Don't we get enough of the local dickhead pollies without wasting our time on what goes on in the USA, UK or wherever?

WHO CARES?




I care - imagine Trump in charge of the nuclear button?


I would say that Trump's health and "finger" is a LOT more stable than Hillary's ....

she even needs help to climb some steps.  How about her head-nodding episodes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDa9eArn4SQ

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by cods on Sep 27th, 2016 at 7:34pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
I honestly can NOT understand why any Aussie would decide to watch an American Political anything.

Don't we get enough of the local dickhead pollies without wasting our time on what goes on in the USA, UK or wherever?

WHO CARES?



strangely enough a lot do.care...

we cannot survive alone nef... and you would be foolish to think we can.....China is playing the heavy in our neck of the woods.....their might against ours is laughable but with America attached to us.. it makes all the difference..... they wont take us completely for granted.... as it is we are sitting ducks..I cant think of any other nation that would back us up if we upset China..

and be honest nef it takes our minds off what we have here... dunno about you but they are even more cringeworthy..

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 27th, 2016 at 8:18pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
I honestly can NOT understand why any Aussie would decide to watch an American Political anything.

Don't we get enough of the local dickhead pollies without wasting our time on what goes on in the USA, UK or wherever?

WHO CARES?


WE CARES!

It's theatre on the world stage if nothing else, and then who comes in is going to effect the Middle East, Russia, and China - and ultimately us.

520 Australians lost their lives in Vietnam because of the US presidency agreeing to a cockamamie military adventure over there.

Mark Latham said in his article the other day : The US gets uncomfortable if it feels it doesn't have enough enemies worldwide.


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by NorthOfNorth on Sep 27th, 2016 at 10:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 8:18pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:59pm:
I honestly can NOT understand why any Aussie would decide to watch an American Political anything.

Don't we get enough of the local dickhead pollies without wasting our time on what goes on in the USA, UK or wherever?

WHO CARES?


WE CARES!

It's theatre on the world stage if nothing else, and then who comes in is going to effect the Middle East, Russia, and China - and ultimately us.

520 Australians lost their lives in Vietnam because of the US presidency agreeing to a cockamamie military adventure over there.

Mark Latham said in his article the other day : The US gets uncomfortable if it feels it doesn't have enough enemies worldwide.


Mark Latham said in his article the other day : The US gets uncomfortable if it feels it doesn't have enough enemies worldwide.

Likely Benjamin Franklin's American 'gift' to the world... The ghost of Franklin still sticking it up the English Aristocracy...

And now the world is lumped with Trump... A latter day 'Caligula' wannabe for an American President.

Yanks... Obsessed with living in Golding's infantilised Lord of the Flies.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mortdooley on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:08pm


There is your choice, Free Enterprise or an even more overbearing, larger, more intrusive government.

Are you prepared?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by mothra on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   


So you watched 20 minutes of it and you are sticking your oar in the water?

I missed the first part but the consensus is that that was where Trump did his finest work.

By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Hillary has been almost unanimously been handed the win.  It was a resounding victory.  Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.

She wiped the floor with him.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Richdude on Sep 28th, 2016 at 5:36am

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   


So you watched 20 minutes of it and you are sticking your oar in the water?

I missed the first part but the consensus is that that was where Trump did his finest work.

By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Hillary has been almost unanimously been handed the win.  It was a resounding victory.  Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.

She wiped the floor with him.


  Really? I'm wondering if we watched the same debate?
Did Hillary's colostomy bag fail?

I was hoping that Donald would do a citizens arrest. He has the ba**lls to do so.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by cods on Sep 28th, 2016 at 7:46am
all I saw of Hillary was her smearing his name going back years...I dont have much time for either of them....but if push comes to shove..... Hillary also has a lot of suss history..

it wasnt very insightful...and the Democrats havent made much of a dent in ISIS in 8 years have they?.........as Donald said... on their watch it has grown massively......

yes cyber warfare..... ::) ::) how the hell can anyone stop that?

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Panther on Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:16am
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Even Republicans think Clinton won the first debate




Source:  THE WASHINGTON POST   
Quote:
THE BIG IDEA: The consensus that Donald Trump badly lost the first debate gelled overnight. Liberals predictably panned the GOP nominee’s performance on Long Island, but some of the harshest reviews are coming from conservative thought leaders who had been starting to come around.

-- Instant reaction:



Republican pollster Frank Luntz conducted a focus group of undecided voters in Pennsylvania. Sixteen said Hillary Clinton won. Five picked Trump, per CBS News.

In a Florida focus group organized by CNN, 18 of 20 undecided voters picked Clinton as the winner.

Not one of 29 undecided voters in an Ohio focus group organized by Park Street Strategies thought Trump prevailed, while 11 picked Clinton and the rest said neither. By a two-to-one margin, the group thought Clinton had the better tone and, by a three-to-one margin, they thought she came across as more knowledgeable candidate on the issues.

A CNN/ORC flash poll found that 62 percent said the Democrat won, compared to 27 percent who picked Trump. That’s on par with 2012, when Mitt Romney was seen as the winner of the first debate.

In a separate instant-poll from the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling, 51 percent said Clinton won and 40 percent picked Trump.

Eight in 10 insiders in the key battleground states thought Clinton performed better, including 57 percent of Republicans, according to the Politico Caucus survey.
Trump complains of 'defective mic' after first debate
Play Video1:42

Trump’s surrogates in the spin room were downbeat, and the candidate himself has already begun making excuses: “They gave me a defective mic,” he complained to reporters during a gaggle. “Did you notice that? My mic was defective within the room. I wonder, was that on purpose?” There was no clear problem with his microphone during the debate, Jose DelReal notes.

Trump was supposed to stop by the Nassau County Republican Committee’s watch party on his way home. He skipped it. Clinton, meanwhile, celebrated with hundreds of supporters in Westbury.

And Rudy Giuliani, a top Trump surrogate, even suggested that Trump should skip the next two debates unless he gets concessions. “If I were Donald Trump I wouldn’t participate in another debate unless I was promised that the journalist would act like a journalist and not an incorrect, ignorant fact checker,” he said.......CONTINUED


Sounds like it went just as expected.

Some hoped for a miracle that things would have been different, but virtually everyone in the know knew an ex-Senator, an ex-Secretary of State, an ex-lawyer, & a Wall Street talk circuit darling would, in a civil debate, would easily out debate Trump from the get-go.

For anyone to predict otherwise they might as well be trippin' on peyote in fantasy land with Jim Morrison.

Now, that said, the second debate is set up.....but, what will Trump do?

   One prediction would be that he will heave a bucket of month old catgut over SHillary's $600 meticulously coiffed head, then point to her and exclaim as only he can:

"Well there she is.......it's Stinkin' Hillary, yes very foul.........very foul & Stinkin' Hillary.....very foul!"    
   


Barring that, next time I think he will take Hillary down to street level, yes, take her to a typical back street NYC gutter, & bash the lovin' bejisis out of her pants suited ass, in a way that the general consensus would even find a bit charming. 

That would be more Presidential........no?    


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Gordon on Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:58am

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   


So you watched 20 minutes of it and you are sticking your oar in the water?

I missed the first part but the consensus is that that was where Trump did his finest work.

By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Hillary has been almost unanimously been handed the win.  It was a resounding victory.  Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.

She wiped the floor with him.


The people who will put Trump in the White House don't care about who won the debate.  They are voting against regressive leftist party politics and that will get him over the line.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by spunk lord on Sep 28th, 2016 at 12:24pm

stryder wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Hillary clinton has been a lawyer before being in politics, and has been a politician for 30 years, she would know the ins and outs of debating more so than trump.

Trump has never been a politician until last year, and has had mixed results in the GOP primary debates.

I just feel that hillary has an edge over trunp.

I can be wrong on this though. Lol



Well, i was right ladies and gentlemen, hilliarys preparation helped her in part to win the debate.

While donald trumps lack of preparation didnt do him any favours.

Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 28th, 2016 at 2:37pm

mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.


Exactly.

For me he convincingly demonstrated exceptional credentials for being a politician way better than did his smiling Cheshire Cat opponent.

I'm hoping Marla will appreciate this and vote for him.


Title: Re: The first presidential debate
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 28th, 2016 at 2:48pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:58am:
The people who will put Trump in the White House don't care about who won the debate.  They are voting against regressive leftist party politics and that will get him over the line.



Got it in one.

It really is as simple as that.

And also there are 20,000,000 people in the US who wear a cheap toupée Made in China like the candy floss blowing on top of Trump's head.

No prizes for guessing who they're going to vote for.

And then there are 30,000,000 people in the US who were teased in the playground as a child for having a mouth like a horse's arse.

No prizes for ....

And then ....

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