I was reading about a death in the US 30 years ago that was judged to be a suicide by the Coroner's Office.

A woman who lived alone was found dead in her home by a neighbour who then called the police.

An extensive investigation was carried out, but it all led to the conclusion that she had committed suicide.

During the time of the investigation they took photos of everything in the house, with all of these ending up in a file as Case Solved. It wasn't even a Cold Case.

But one very junior officer kept thinking that there was an anomaly somewhere, but he couldn't quite put his finger on it. It bothered him.

The case was closed, but back he went to the file and looked through all the photos again ... and then it struck him what didn't look right.

From this simple observation a murderer was eventually brought to justice, and the poor woman was no longer filed under 'Suicide'.    

well your right herb.. we didnt read about the anomaly.. ::) ::)

You wouldnt read about it....but clearly you did read about it, since you were reading about.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

You wouldnt read about it....but clearly you did read about it, since you were reading about.

Bojack,

That is the most sense you have made, in a long time, imo.

Yadda wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 1:00pm: You wouldnt read about it....but clearly you did read about it, since you were reading about. Bojack, That is the most sense you have made, in a long time, imo.

Reading any of your posts, thats pot, kettle, black yadda.

Mmmm Herb how about telling us what he found!

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

Mmmm Herb how about telling us what he found!

He can't.

Its a secret!     ;)

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 1:17pm:

Mmmm Herb how about telling us what he found!

I was waiting for you to ask.. what took youse so long?

It's actually a true story.

He went through about 200 or more photos the forensic team took inside the house when they arrived shortly after the discovery of the dead woman's body.

He shuffled through them again and again ... and then the penny dropped with a thud.

What he saw gave him goose-bumps.

And ...

someone's at the door. Don't go away, I'll be back in a moment.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 1:17pm: Mmmm Herb how about telling us what he found! I was waiting for you to ask.. what took youse so long? It's actually a true story. He went through about 200 or more photos the forensic team took inside the house when they arrived shortly after the discovery of the dead woman's body. He shuffled through them again and again ... and then the penny dropped with a thud. What he saw gave him goose-bumps. And ... someone's at the door. Don't go away, I'll be back in a moment.

Herbert,

You are a cruel man!           ;D

I'm back!

Soooo ... ...


What this young junior detective saw was ...

Damn! Excuse me, the kettle's boiling. Don't go away.

True story.

What he saw in one of the photos was that the toilet seat was up ...

dont tell me her hands were tied behind her back... 8-)

Months later a man stood in the dock charged with her murder.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

True story. What he saw in one of the photos was that the toilet seat was up ...

ooops     so he left his fingerprints,, no that cant be right they would have had to keep the toilet seat....

so how does that prove who dunnit?....

she could have been a clean freak and forgot to put it down...

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 2:30pm:

Months later a man stood in the dock charged with her murder.

well done to him.. but it still doesnt explain it all

I'm curious to read more about it but can't find a link...........do you have one????

Alinta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

I'm curious to read more about it but can't find a link...........do you have one????

Sounds like one of Herbert's canards to me.

Alinta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 4:05pm:

I'm curious to read more about it but can't find a link...........do you have one????

Nope.

The toilet was at the far end of the corridor, and had the door open, showing the raised seat in the distance in semi-darkness.

Nothing was said about finger-prints, and it took exhaustive inquiries and long months before a fellow confessed to the killing.

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 4:05pm: I'm curious to read more about it but can't find a link...........do you have one???? Sounds like one of Herbert's canards to me.

I've heard similar stories.

Guy goes to the toilet at his girlfriend's place, comes out and says "who is he"?

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:

Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 4:05pm: I'm curious to read more about it but can't find a link...........do you have one???? ,

I was starting to think it was one of those lateral thinking puzzles, but was annoyed I couldn't find anything at all about it.

I eventually found these...

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Toilet-seat-helps-doom-killer-5368826.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/michael-briggs_n_5079511

heaps more links.....easy to find once you have a starting point

This is about a cold case!


OK Herb get to the friggin point!

Give us the critical point that solved the case!

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

This is about a cold case! OK Herb get to the friggin point! Give us the critical point that solved the case!

The toilet seat was up.

A woman who lives on her own never leaves the toilet seat up.

Thus, they knew that someone else - a man - must have been in her house quite recently.

Alinta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

heaps more links.....easy to find once you have a starting point

Good research, Alinta, but my victim certainly wasn't a nun, and I don't think the guy they eventually caught was black.

The toilet seat thingy must be enjoying a vogue of some sort.

I live alone ...   and so if I'm found dead as an apparent suicide, and my toilet seat is found to be down, then it will be a case of cherchez la femme.

;D

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:06pm:

Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 6:52pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 4:46pm: Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 4:05pm: I'm curious to read more about it but can't find a link...........do you have one???? , I was starting to think it was one of those lateral thinking puzzles, but was annoyed I couldn't find anything at all about it. I eventually found these... http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Toilet-seat-helps-doom-killer-5368826.php http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/michael-briggs_n_5079511 heaps more links.....easy to find once you have a starting point Good research, Alinta, but my victim certainly wasn't a nun, and I don't think the guy they eventually caught was black. The toilet seat thingy must be enjoying a vogue of some sort. I live alone ...   and so if I'm found dead as an apparent suicide, and my toilet seat is found to be down, then it will be a case of cherchez la femme. ;D

;D OOPS

Did you read your story on the Internet or in a book???

Alinta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:12pm:

;D OOPS Did you read your story on the Internet or in a book???

A book. It was actually the summary of a book written about this murder.  :)

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:15pm:

Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:12pm: ;D OOPS Did you read your story on the Internet or in a book??? A book. It was actually the summary of a book written about this murder.  :)

Cheers Herb......I stuffed up.......my apologies.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:15pm:

Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:12pm: ;D OOPS Did you read your story on the Internet or in a book??? A book. It was actually the summary of a book written about this murder.  :)

Was the book called "Aesop's Herbert's Fables?"

Alinta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:21pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:15pm: Alinta wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:12pm: ;D OOPS Did you read your story on the Internet or in a book??? A book. It was actually the summary of a book written about this murder.  :) Cheers Herb......I stuffed up.......my apologies.

No apologies needed, young lady.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

I've just finished a tome called 'Infamous Killers'. Arsenic enjoyed a very popular vogue among female poisoners in the 19th century.

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Was the book called "Aesop's Herbert's Fables?"

Another of The Usual Suspects trolling the threads this evening. Bugger the subject matter, just have fun trying to crash-tackle those who are attempting to add substance to these threads.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:25pm: Was the book called "Aesop's Herbert's Fables?" Another of The Usual Suspects trolling the threads this evening. Bugger the subject matter, just have fun trying to crash-tackle those who are attempting to add substance to these threads.

What do you expect?  You have no link, just some vague reference to something you read in a something about something in another book.  Don't panic Herbert, it was a good yarn, devoid of much real substance.  The dunny seat was up, and that was it......killer caught, tried and sentenced on just that bit of evidence.  Happens all the time, Herbert, I know.

;)

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 8:03pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:48pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:25pm: Was the book called "Aesop's Herbert's Fables?" Another of The Usual Suspects trolling the threads this evening. Bugger the subject matter, just have fun trying to crash-tackle those who are attempting to add substance to these threads. What do you expect?  You have no link, just some vague reference to something you read in a something about something in another book.  Don't panic Herbert, it was a good yarn, devoid of much real substance.  The dunny seat was up, and that was it......killer caught, tried and sentenced on just that bit of evidence.  Happens all the time, Herbert, I know. ;)

Was he black, Her-bert?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2016 at 8:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 8:03pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:48pm: Aussie wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 7:25pm: Was the book called "Aesop's Herbert's Fables?" Another of The Usual Suspects trolling the threads this evening. Bugger the subject matter, just have fun trying to crash-tackle those who are attempting to add substance to these threads. What do you expect?  You have no link, just some vague reference to something you read in a something about something in another book.  Don't panic Herbert, it was a good yarn, devoid of much real substance.  The dunny seat was up, and that was it......killer caught, tried and sentenced on just that bit of evidence.  Happens all the time, Herbert, I know. ;) Was he black, Her-bert?

Muslim I believe

OK Herb enough is enough!

How did he crack the case from the photos?