Does it ever end ? Labor's vast cesspool of corruption ? Gosh Shorty is already up to his armpits in union corruption as was revealed in the TURC.

But beware, take care what you might say, because the Kangaroo Court gets sued for Defamation among other things every so often.

Read the article to get the FULL unredacted gory story.




BILL SHORTEN’S CRONIES CHARGED BY POLICE FOR TRYING TO RIG A SEAT IN 2016 FEDERAL ELECTION
Shane Dowling The Kangaroo Court

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Criminal charges have been laid against Bill Shorten’s associates for attempting to influence the outcome in Michael Danby’s seat of Melbourne Ports during the 2016 federal election. Danby just scraped over the line and was re-elected with preferences from The Greens.

This should not be a surprise given branch stacking is what allegedly allowed Bill Shorten to become a federal MP and there were allegations of vote rigging when Shorten defeated Anthony Albanese in 2013 for the leadership of the Labor Party.

The people charged include
Andrew Landeryou who is the husband of Senator Kimberley Kitching,
David Asmar who is married to HSU Victoria Number 1 Branch Secretary Diana Asmar and
Dean Sherriff who has a long association with Andrew Landeryou.
Also involved was George Droutsas but at this point it is unknown if he has been charged.

The crimes relate to the early morning of the last federal election on the 2/7/16. I wrote about the incident then and said:

Bill Shorten and Andrew Bolt’s mate Andrew Landeryou and three other Labor Party and Union crooks were arrested in the early hours of election day for criminal offences undermining the election process trying to help federal MP Michael Danby.

Mr Landeryou and the other three were driving around election booths cutting down election posters belonging to the Liberal Party, The Greens and probably other candidates to benefit Labor federal MP Michael Danby. The four were arrested and released while the police continue their investigation.

Read all about it here


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This wasn't even a story last year when it was current.

Just pathetic, trying to connect it to Shorten.

Deflection from Ley’s “impulse buy” maybe?  :D

You can see how desperate Juliar is.  The poor thing.  It's unfortunate the coalition's performance is such not even the usual media spinning wonder that is Juliar can do anything about it. 

When even murdoch e.g. the australian, heraldsun, etc are all pointing the rorting of a lib mp, it's wiser to do the same, Juliar.  At least it makes you seem slightly less a paid coalition propagandist.  Although based on coalition policies, i am assuming you're just doing it for free.

When will Juliar ever address the lib corruption megathread?  Never.  Because corruption for one side, is standard operating procedures for the other.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

Deflection from Ley’s “impulse buy” maybe?  :D

Still obsessively wrong?
No maybe about that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Accepting that that purchase was a real impulse buy implies a lot of loyalty to the Libs.

Coalition - Unlimited corruption works.

Gee talk about poking a stick into a wasps' nest!!!! 

The old Socialist indoctrinated Lefties are indignantly hurling fire and brimstone at anything that moves.

They have even got the old mental invalid Poor Stunned out to help.

Dunno why they go all feral and fall out of their trees whenever their beloved Shorty is mentioned ?

After all they all know Shorty is just a burnt out old union hack that couldn't win a race if he was the only one in it.

Maybe it is all related to Shorty's manboobs ? It really makes one wonder just what goes on inside the mind of a Socialist indoctrinated Lefty. Maybe nothing ?


But enuff of the Socialist indoctrinated Lefties' outraged expostulations, now how about a really refreshing change with some actual informed intelligent COMMENTS ?


7 COMMENTS ON “BILL SHORTEN’S CRONIES CHARGED BY POLICE FOR TRYING TO RIG A SEAT IN 2016 FEDERAL ELECTION”


ohdeah January 8, 2017 at 9:39 am #
is there an honest person in the Labor party both state and federal? anymore?


Tooma Ted January 8, 2017 at 10:25 am #
I hope Bill hears of you calling him a ***** figure and takes appropriate court action.


kurt January 8, 2017 at 3:23 pm #
Bill Shorten is a ***** figure Tooma Ted. Shorten masquerades as the labor leader & before that when he was a union official/leader. I don’t know where your angle is Ted but this website has exposed Shorten more than any other politician since this website started. The stuff that Shorten has done in his union/political career would be enough for him (and his **** gang) to end up ** ****.


Jonde January 8, 2017 at 5:18 pm #
Tooma Ted, Bill Shorten is already aware----   too hot to handle here!!!!


rodjac2014 January 8, 2017 at 2:10 pm #
Having said this before, I will say it again. ANY politician caught rorting a system will be sacked without any remuneration at all. No super, No office for life. NO free staff. NO money paid by anyone to the disgraced person..! If Mr & Mrs public can get it in the neck, then these leeches are no exception.


rustyas January 8, 2017 at 4:18 pm #
well said, you are right on the money


freddirh January 8, 2017 at 2:18 pm #
I only hope that these charges by the police stick or will they get out of them on some efforts by pollies and their legal eagles ? Protected species!!!

stunspore wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 4:09pm:

You can see how desperate Juliar is.  The poor thing.  It's unfortunate the coalition's performance is such not even the usual media spinning wonder that is Juliar can do anything about it.  When even murdoch e.g. the australian, heraldsun, etc are all pointing the rorting of a lib mp, it's wiser to do the same, Juliar.  At least it makes you seem slightly less a paid coalition propagandist.  Although based on coalition policies, i am assuming you're just doing it for free.

To Juliar the Liberals atrocious corrupt and incompetent performance is like water off a ducks back, the more the better he likes it.

When will juliar acknowledge lib corruption?? When??

Although Juliar lost the argument over corruption, at least here's a chance for Juliar to redeem herself.  She can comment on how high a standard the health minister is by repaying the travel cost and that evolution does exist - after all, it didn't take 3 weeks this time....
Oh wait, Juliar approves bishop's helicopter usage, right?

Poor Stunned the mental invalid is trying to sound intelligent again. A true credit to the Lefty class.

Notice how the weak Lefties avoid the actual TOPIC like the plague and dither around trying everything to change the subject and of course try to blame the erudite poster who provides the essential service of bringing this exposure of corruption to the attention of the concerned readers.

This is why the Lefties have no credibility at all because their lying and denying is just so predictable.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 4:14pm:

Accepting that that purchase was a real impulse buy implies a lot of loyalty to the Libs.

she has APOLOGISED.....you dont apologise if you have NOTHING WRONG>.

cods,

you seem to have gotten your threads mixed up.

Probably a habit caught from that Oz Political Animal site where you feature quite a bit. 

http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewforum.php?f=2

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 4:14pm: Accepting that that purchase was a real impulse buy implies a lot of loyalty to the Libs. she has APOLOGISED.....you dont apologise if you have NOTHING WRONG>.

Exactly so, cods.

Unfortunately too many MPs from both sides of the political divide get seduced by the idea the tax payer will fund their holidays.

Ley just the one got caught this time. Yes, Labor members have been caught too.

juliar wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Poor Stunned the mental invalid is trying to sound intelligent again. A true credit to the Lefty class. Notice how the weak Lefties avoid the actual TOPIC like the plague and dither around trying everything to change the subject and of course try to blame the erudite poster who provides the essentials service of bringing this exposure of corruption to the attention of the concerned readers. This is why the Lefties have no credibility at all because their lying and denying is just so predictable.

what Ley has done was wrong.. on every count... and shes stooopid to boot.....

it isnt as if this "coincidental" benefits to MPs at the exact time they have  a ministerial trip.

hasnt made headlines in the past....

we even lost the Speaker because at that very thing.. using their expenses for personal business.....

it doesnt matter if it was a side trip.... what next  arrange a wedding to fit in with a govt business trip.... ::) ::) ::)..why not...

I dont care if it cost $30 or $3000.. it is not part of their entitlements...personally I think they get more than enough    and they never seem to be satisfied...

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 7:17pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 4:14pm: Accepting that that purchase was a real impulse buy implies a lot of loyalty to the Libs. she has APOLOGISED.....you dont apologise if you have NOTHING WRONG>. Exactly so, cods. Unfortunately too many MPs from both sides of the political divide get seduced by the idea the tax payer will fund their holidays. Ley just the one got caught this time. Yes, Labor members have been caught too.

if it was a one off I wouldnt be so mean.. but really jm we have had more than our share of bastard thieving MPs.. and lets face it these are the ones that get caught....remember how long Obeid was working for his own benefit...11 bloody years..gawd knows what he chalked up to business trips.

she needs to step down...if they ever want to get the message across then they must at all times step down.

Oh, I agree, POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT, NEARLY ALL OF THEM!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 7:17pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 4:14pm: Accepting that that purchase was a real impulse buy implies a lot of loyalty to the Libs. she has APOLOGISED.....you dont apologise if you have NOTHING WRONG>. Exactly so, cods. Unfortunately too many MPs from both sides of the political divide get seduced by the idea the tax payer will fund their holidays. Ley just the one got caught this time. Yes, Labor members have been caught too.

X2

I would think that it is almost 100% of them, mostly it is a slap on the wrist when caught and very many of them have been caught and slapped on the wrist.

cods wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 7:22pm: cods wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 7:17pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 4:14pm: Accepting that that purchase was a real impulse buy implies a lot of loyalty to the Libs. she has APOLOGISED.....you dont apologise if you have NOTHING WRONG>. Exactly so, cods. Unfortunately too many MPs from both sides of the political divide get seduced by the idea the tax payer will fund their holidays. Ley just the one got caught this time. Yes, Labor members have been caught too. if it was a one off I wouldnt be so mean.. but really jm we have had more than our share of bastard thieving MPs.. and lets face it these are the ones that get caught....remember how long Obeid was working for his own benefit...11 bloody years..gawd knows what he chalked up to business trips. she needs to step down...if they ever want to get the message across then they must at all times step down.

Yes codsy, Ley should step down.

But we also need to reduce the overgenerous allowances MPS get! The printing allowance has seen Lib MPs & Senators funnel that money to the Lib campaign funds (look up Parakeelia.)

Cut off all allowances, make the MPs justify beforehand any claim for TA or office costs or whatever.

ROTFLMA ;D ;D ;D
Really you pair should get a room.
So what did she do wrong again?  Hmmmm.
Apparently nothing unless things have changed in the last hour or so.

What Ley did that was wrong, as she has admitted by agreeing to repay the TA fraudulently claimed, was that she made four trips to the GC to arrange the purchase of that apartment. A presser, meeting unspecified stakeholders etc were the thin veneer of official duties used to claim the TA.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

What Ley did that was wrong, as she has admitted by agreeing to repay the TA fraudulently claimed, was that she made four trips to the GC to arrange the purchase of that apartment. A presser, meeting unspecified stakeholders etc were the thin veneer of official duties used to claim the TA.

Nope she and the department say she broke no rules... :D :D :D :D :D
Speculate all you like be as biased as you like it won't make YOU right.
So far the payback is just political expediency.

Pretty unlikely.

No, she had her hand in the till.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

Pretty unlikely. No, she had her hand in the till.

More likely than not.
You have no proof just your obsessive bias.
The call is she broke no rules.
Unless the department changes that ruling then SHE BROKE NO RULES.

Grendel wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Pretty unlikely. No, she had her hand in the till. More likely than not. You have no proof just your obsessive bias. The call is she broke no rules. Unless the department changes that ruling then SHE BROKE NO RULES.

Odd she handed back the coin for three or was it four seperate visits , why would she do that ? If it was within the rules ?

And of course she said she did nothing wrong, at least she is not stupid enough to say “I fradulently claimed that money!” AFP would be taking her to answer questions quick smart. Geez, my dog could figure that one out: she can sit amongst the scattered rubbish of the rubbish bin she upended on the kitchen floor and clearly indicate “It wasn’t ME!”  :D

juliar wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Poor Stunned the mental invalid is trying to sound intelligent again. A true credit to the Lefty class. Notice how the weak Lefties avoid the actual TOPIC like the plague and dither around trying everything to change the subject and of course try to blame the erudite poster who provides the essential service of bringing this exposure of corruption to the attention of the concerned readers. This is why the Lefties have no credibility at all because their lying and denying is just so predictable.

It's ok Juliar that again you (time and time again) that you created a failed thread supporting your side.
A thread about corruption?  We certainly can agree that the libs need a serious look at.  So why don't you start telling us what the libs need to do to fix their corrupting behaviours.
Oh wait, your limited vocab is such that all you have are just some random insults, hoping that they hit the mark.

Come on, mate.  Not as dumb and immature as you in debating.  When you start debating rationally, believe me, people will start to think you have an iota of intelligence.  At this stage, single digit IQs like you are making this forum a happier place - we just laugh at the comedy you provide, taking satisfaction at the stupid posts you make.  Thank you juliar, for making our days more amusing.  Truly.

The mental invalid Poor Stunned is STILL trying to sound intelligent.

Just goes to show what Socialist indoctrination can do.

juliar wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 5:26am:

The mental invalid Poor Stunned is STILL trying to sound intelligent. Just goes to show what Socialist indoctrination can do.

If socialist indoctrination provides an education vs. none (in your case), then that's better than nothing.  Certainly better than being stupid - because the choice of vocab, the way the language is used, the lack of eloquence, and poor debating skills Juliar exhibited all point to a failed schooling.  Someone got left behind and is still hurting.

LOL.  Juliar has to rely on crude derogatory remarks and hope they hurt the target.  You would think, Juliar, that you might have picked up some English skills from me by now.  Is English your first language, or was it bogan?  That would explain the proud support you provide to the coalition and One Nation. 

Poor Stunned is a warning to all of the danger of Socialist indoctrination.

Juliar is a warning of the effect of believing propaganda instead of thinking for yourself. Don’t worry, Juliar, you are in good company here: there is Booby believing an obvious charlatan about an Ice Age and Longy who thinks he gets 96:38 on VDSL.


:D

juliar wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 5:26am:

The mental invalid Poor Stunned is STILL trying to sound intelligent. Just goes to show what Socialist indoctrination can do.

Sounds like Juliar tongued tied (or the equivalent in typing) - another copy and pasted job.  Time to get an education, Juliar.  Back to Play school perhaps?

My very own troll is STILL following me around like a faithful hound.

JM,

is following the standard Lefty tradition of avoiding the TOPIC like the plague and trying every trick in the book to change the subject which is SO embarrassing to the Socialist indoctrinated Lefties.

And, of course, the usual pointless attack on the messenger is all the go. Attacking the messenger doesn't change the message at all as it is still there.

No surprise the Lefties have NO credibility at all anymore with their so predictable lies and denies.

Now where is my faithful troll ?

What was the topic again dear?

Showing how corrupt a Lib can be is not avoiding the topic—it is showing corruption is not limited to one Party.

BTW the TURC found nothing against Bill Shorten or Julia Gillard.

Gillard was the only PM with brains and balls that we have had in the last 20–30 years!

Now to get the Socialist indoctrinated Lefties' attention back here is EVEN MORE Labor CORRUPTION!!!!!




'I made Shorten an MP', says branch stacker
Royce Millar and Ben Schneiders JUNE 21 2015

http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/h/t/1/3/i/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.ght2sc.png/1434850757214.jpg
Bill Shorten and (from left) Hakki Suleyman, George Seitz and Andrew Landeryou. Seitz claimed responsibility for Bill Shorten's parliamentary career. Photo: Jamie Brown

Victoria's most notorious Labor branch-stacker has claimed responsibility for Bill Shorten' s parliamentary career, confirming he and another ethnic warlord guaranteed the "crucial" votes for the now Labor leader's preselection for the seat of Maribyrnong ahead of the 2007 federal election.

George Seitz, an MP in Melbourne's west for 28 years, died early this month after a battle with cancer. In an interview from hospital just days before his death, he told Fairfax Media about his role in Mr Shorten's controversial mid-2000s campaign to take Maribyrnong from his predecessor, Bob Sercombe.


The Kangaroo's stuff is too hot to handle so read the whole gory story here

So branch stacking is limited to Labor is it?  :D :D :D

Dear Juliar, so indictrinated, so wrong.

JM,

just go to the original post and you will recall the original topic but don't worry I've just added a reminder and there are dozens more where that came from.

Your recitation of that bit of Lefty prepared propaganda does nothing to restore your shattered credibility.

Now I wonder where my faithful troll has got to ?

And it never rains it pours. The Lefties will clasp their hands in despair.



BILL SHORTEN LABOR PARTY VOTE RIGGING SCANDAL STILL NOT RESOLVED
Shane Dowling The Kangaroo Court

https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/sam-dastyari-anthony-albanese.jpg

Probably the greatest thing that undermines democracy is the vote rigging of elections. It would therefore surprise many people that the alleged vote rigging of the 2013 Bill Shorten – Anthony Albanese Labor Party leadership ballot has never been fully investigated.

It has been almost 18 months since Bill Shorten was elected leader of the Labor Party and his own party are still unsure if he was elected honestly. On Friday (10-4-15) the NSW ALP administrative committee will be discussing the 50 dodgy ballot papers. The papers had mailing addresses altered on the instructions of a former staff member of Senator Sam Dastyari. Mr Dastyari is known to support Bill Shorten.

If they admit there were 50 dodgy ballot papers how many were there really?


https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2015/04/09/bill-shorten-labor-party-vote-rigging-scandal-still-not-resolved/

Kangaroo Court is not an impartial news source, just a propaganda site. Believe the crap there if you like but reposting it here just paints you as an indoctrinated mental lightweight. Just a bit of friendly advice.

There are fools, charlatans and thieves everywhere in politics!

Actually, it seems Labor has a higher ethical stance than the Libs, after all Shorten made Sam Dastyari resign from the shadow front bench over a $1670 payment.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 8:14am:

Kangaroo Court is not an impartial news source, just a propaganda site. Believe the crap there if you like but reposting it here just paints you as an indoctrinated mental lightweight. Just a bit of friendly advice. There are fools, charlatans and thieves everywhere in politics!

LOL....
Kangaroo Court?  just about everything you post is due to kangaroos loose in the top paddock monk... 
You are the epitome of a Kangaroo Court.

Grendel,    the Jolly Monk is just a stirrer.



And now, to make the Socialist indoctrinated Lefties' hearts sink to the floor, here is a real snorten Shorten.




Bill Shorten receives brutal performance review - less attractive than PM on all fronts but one
Stephanie Peatling DECEMBER 20 2016

Bill Shorten has spent hundreds of hours at town hall meetings talking to small groups and large about anything and everything.

Then there's the countless school fetes, community events and fancy dinners a politician has to attend, not to mention an eight-week long federal election campaign.


Click here to see video on Wake up call for politicians

Australians are dissatisfied with democracy, don't trust politicians or have faith in their ability to fix the economy, new report finds.
So maybe it was a case of overkill that led the 2000 people spoken to as part of the Australian National University's Australian Electoral Study to deliver the most brutal performance review of any leader in the 30 years the study has been asking about characteristics of individual leaders.

Less than ten per cent of the people who participated in the survey said the Labor leader was intelligent or knowledgeable.

About three times as many people described Malcolm Turnbull in those terms.

Of the nine perceived qualities of political leaders participants were asked about, Mr Shorten ranked higher than the Prime Minister on only one - compassion.

People thought he was less trustworthy, decent, sensible, inspiring or honest than Mr Turnbull.

Just to further emphasise their general lack of enthusiasm for Mr Shorten, fewer people indicated they believed he was capable of strong leadership than Mr Turnbull.

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Bill Shorten ranked higher than Malcolm Turnbull in only one category in the study: compassion. Photo: Penny Stephens

Mr Shorten also has the dubious honour of sharing the lowest individual score of any leader in the past 30 years on any characteristic - only 3.7 per cent of people said they found him an inspiring leader.

He shared this score with Tony Abbott, who attracted this rating after the 2010 election campaign.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/content/dam/images/g/t/7/r/d/9/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gteu19.png/1482230082276.jpg
Voters say Mr Turnbull is more intelligent and knowledgeable than Mr Shorten. Photo: Andrew Meares

But, as they say, it might be a case of "it's not you, it's me".

People's willingness to ascribe positive characteristics to leadership over the past 30 years has been falling, in line with their general disenchantment with politics.

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Mr Shorten shares the lowest individual score of any leader over the past 30 years on any characteristic with Tony Abbott, who attracted the poor rating after the 2010 campaign. Photo: Christopher Pearce

"Until recently Australia's political leaders were elected with a good degree of popularity and support amongst the Australian public. Recent elections, however, have seen a shift with prime ministers elected in spite of low levels of popularity," the study noted.

Comparing evaluations of the political leaders over time demonstrates that Kevin Rudd's 2007 election was the last time a newly elected Australian prime minister enjoyed a high level of popularity amongst Australians. The previous three elections have seen Turnbull, Abbott and [Julia] Gillard respectively secure the Parliament despite low levels of popularity, albeit each did so with higher levels of popularity than their opponents who were disliked to a greater extent."

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Former prime minister Julia Gillard wrote a letter congratulating James Bond.  Photo: Alex Ellinghausen


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-receives-brutal-performance-review--less-attractive-than-pm-on-all-fronts-but-one-20161220-gteu19.html

So? Yes Bill needs to show more outrage at the crimes committed by the shambles and try and generate a slightly more positive personality. A lesson most pollies have to learn.

It is not Shorten wasting $60Bn on a collection of obsolete/obsolescent technology that will do nothing to boost internet speeds or the economy. $60Bn spent because FTTH was a Labor project.

I know who I prefer as PM and it isn’t the waffler.

$60Bn worth of corruption, basically. Criminal negligence at worst.

JM,

your fiber to the person fantasy was flogged to death during the six sick years of Socialist insanity.


To actually achieve your Socialist fantasy would cost about $200 billion and would take about 20 years and still going to build.

Can you imagine the horrific cost of modifying existing large unit buildings to extend the fiber optic cable from the main board up to EVERY INDIVIDUAL UNIT ?

Not to mention the cost where existing ducts are full in busy city areas. What about the asbestos scare that brought Labor undone ?

But anyone who wants to pay for it can have fiber to their home - just so long as they are prepared to PAY FOR IT.

You realize that the original Socialist fantasy was to use the NBN as a spy network to watch suspicious persons as it went into EVERY home ?

Dear Juliar, if you really want to debate the NBN you better read some real sources first!

Even the NBN Co “Strategic Review” showed it would cost $72Bn to RESUME the FTTH rollout after 2 years of doing nothing by NBN Co.

The MTM is going to cost more than that. Not only that, FTTN generates so little revenue and has the high costs of maintaining and powering the copper. Would have been cheaper and easier to burn the $60Bn, better even because most people see either no or negligible increase in internet speeds or actually see a decrease as their copper is so bad it just cannot handle the higher frequency VDSL signals.

That $72Bn is based on no improvements in roil out efficiency and costs. All other rollouts of FTTH show a decrease in the cost of connecting each premise.

So the MTM will cost more and do practically nothing after the $60Bn (and the rest. . . ) is spent.

There have been very few FoD actually connected, 15 from memory. There have been a LOT more applications for FoD than that!

Face it, the MTM is a bottomless pit for taxpayers’ funds and will achieve nothing.

numb nuts tried to start a similar thread on the same topic about a month ago ... I'm guessing he'll do the same next month

If you want to see real corruption numb nuts, check out this thread. Pages upon pages of it


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1456025496/425#425

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 9:44am:

Dear Juliar, if you really want to debate the NBN you better read some real sources first! Even the NBN Co “Strategic Review” showed it would cost $72Bn to RESUME the FTTH rollout after 2 years of doing nothing by NBN Co. The MTM is going to cost more than that. Not only that, FTTN generates so little revenue and has the high costs of maintaining and powering the copper. Would have been cheaper and easier to burn the $60Bn, better even because most people see either no or negligible increase in internet speeds or actually see a decrease as their copper is so bad it just cannot handle the higher frequency VDSL signals.

You are asking for juliar to read "real sources".  Better chance asking for a reading of some abbott advertising brochure.  Real facts don't stop some people from sprouting propaganda.

Well, she better not talk crap about the NBN or the MTM while I am around!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ::) ::)