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Title: Are abos an inferior race? Post by WN on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm
I just can't think of any doing great things like the superior white man, unless you want to count Adam Booodes who got Australian of the year for bullying a 13 year old girl.
No, all they seem to do is collect welfare, trash their public housing and get drunk on anything from metho to goon whilst hating on the evil white man for taking their lands which they did nothing with in 40000 years. Discuss. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Unforgiven on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:43pm
British Abos?
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2017 at 3:03pm
"Race" is a social construct. There are more Genetic differences within each "Racial" group than between them. There is, in reality, only one "race", the Human one and we are all members of it. We all share the same Genes. It is what makes us Human Sapien Sapiens. To claim otherwise is to think in the 19th, not the 21st Century. ::)
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by WN on Jan 16th, 2017 at 4:13pm
Ah so there's no such thing as race...then there must be no such thing as racism.
Silly lefties wanting it both ways. ;D |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:15pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 3:03pm:
Tell us a single thing about human social life that is not a 'social construct', Brian. You say it's a social construct as if that was a magic wand making it all disappear. Most social relationships are 'socially constructed" - that doesn't mean that they do not exist or do not mater. You are a fool. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:55pm WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
"Race" and "racism" are social constructs, WRJ... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:56pm Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
"Race" has no scientific basis. It is a social construct which is used to denigrate or for supremacy, Frank... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
Love, hate, like, dislike, family, friendship, time, space, - all social constructs. And none the less real for that. You bloody fool. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:00pm Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 6:58pm:
"Race" has no scientific basis. It is a social construct which is used to denigrate or for supremacy, Frank. Why do you take pride in defending a non-scientific social construct which is only used for those purposes? Roll Eyes |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Love, hate, like, dislike, family, friendship, time, space - they have no scientific basis either. They are all social constructs - yet we live by them. You bloody fool. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:41pm rhino wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Can you prove that "race" has a scientific basis, Rhino? If so, please do so. We are still waiting on your proof about the Genetics of "race"... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:42pm Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Lord Herbert on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:46pm WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
I agreed with Adam Goodes' action. Small girls should not be shouting 'APE!' at adults - white or black. Australian aborigines are not an inferior race, per se, but they got trapped in a culture that froze them in aspic for 40,000 years because they were in small numbers and there was no shortage of food for them. Lack of conflict is what made them live a life-style of Groundhog Day for 40,000 years. WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
That all comes down to inherent cultural and learned attitudes, and has nothing to do with 'race', per se. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:41pm:
2 words bring your hypotheses crashing down. Forensic anthropology. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by issuevoter on Jan 16th, 2017 at 8:15pm WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Simple words have wide ramifications. When you say "seem," I wonder just how thorough your research into aboriginal Australians has been. I hope you have done a lot of travelling and met numbers of them. I don't know many aboriginals, but the ones I have met, I have liked. At the same time we are inundated with stories about cranky aboriginals who are encouraged by guess who? Liberal progressive leftist urban sophisticate WHITE people. You know, that race you think is so superior. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:01pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:41pm:
Why must 'race' have a scientific basis but not all the other socially constructed values like love, hate, like, dislike, family, friendship, time, space. Explain, you bloody fool |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 17th, 2017 at 7:27pm rhino wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:51pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
Tsk, tsk, tsk, more ad hominem debate, Frank? Racists believe "race" has a scientific basis. They act as if there were a science of "race". There is none. It is, as you now admit, a "social construct". It has been used to justify racism, imperialism, denigration and supremacy of particular groups on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc. Time you caught up with the 21st century... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 17th, 2017 at 9:35pm WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
yes, of course they are inferior. Every black race is inferior |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 17th, 2017 at 9:54pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Spoken/typed like a true racist... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 17th, 2017 at 10:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm:
No Brian, science maintains race does exist as I have shown. Its up to you to prove science wrong. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18th, 2017 at 12:06am rhino wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Where is your link to an article about the Genetics of "race", Rhino? Still waiting on it. Forensic Physiology is about observing the effects of evolutionary adaptation, not about Genetics. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Raven on Jan 20th, 2017 at 12:45am WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
David Unipon was considered the Leonardo da Vinci of Australia. He's the bloke on the 50 dollar bill. Aside from his innovation to the shearing tool, he also invented a motor run by centrifugal force, a multi-radial wheel and a mechanical propulsion device. He also conceptualized the helicopter two decades before it became a reality. He was also the first aboriginal writer to be published, though a lot of his work was plagiarised and credited to a Scottish anthropologist William Ramsey Smith. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by AuntieM on Jan 20th, 2017 at 2:05am WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
:( Sometimes, there are just no words... |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:49pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 3:03pm:
Come on bwian don't hide behind that untruth racial differences have been established. It's not about genetics or the PC belief of some human genome project scientist. We are talking about reality here. There are Aboriginal; artists, singers, entertainers, sportmen and women... etc, who are just as good and just as competent as any in any other race. Racism is a crock always has been always will be. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
BTW bwian this is just total bullshyte. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by John Smith on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:51pm
Are abos an inferior race?
can't be, if they really were inferior you wouldn't feel the need to start denigrating them. If you feel inferior you really should seek help rather than try to take it out on abbo's. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29th, 2017 at 6:45pm Grendel wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:49pm:
Genetically? Where? Show me a scientific paper that has identified a Gene that determines what "Race" a person is, Grendel. otherwise piss off. "Race" is a social construct. It was created by racists to identify groups of people on physical characteristics, nothing more. Physical characteristics which were evolutionary adaptations. There is no Genetic difference between a human being from the UK or Japan or Africa or Australia. We all have the same Genes. It is what makes us Humans, Grendel. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29th, 2017 at 6:54pm Grendel wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:51pm:
Prove it is bullshit, Grendel. Point me to a scientific paper that proves the Genetics of "race" existing. Show us which Gene(s) determine what "race" a person is. I look forward to your efforts. All the other racists have thus far failed. Funny that. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:05pm
Abos evolved to survive in the harsh Aussie outback.
If we were in the outback for 3 days we would be sun burnt & dead from lack of water. An Abo would be fine. They can go longer without water - plus they know how to find bush tucker. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:08pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:05pm:
*SIGH*, no they can't go longer without water. Learning how to find bush tucker is acquired knowledge, nothing more. Anybody can learn that skill, Bobby. Indigenous Australians are not inherently superior at bush survival. There have been numerous cases over the last 20 years where they have died because they don't know where water is or where bush tucker is. The destruction of their culture and families has destroyed their knowledge base. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by John Smith on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:12pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:05pm:
you idiot |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:50pm John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
Don't call me idiot - you idiot. I saw it once on TV. Without water: A white person at 40 degrees heat is dead in a day - an aborigine is dead in 3 days. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2017 at 8:57pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 6:45pm:
I'm sorry bwian but I never mentioned gene or genetic... you keep building strawmen and lying about what I say though. What sort of lying hypocrite does that make you then eh? Race is all about physical characteristics bwian... now you are saying humans have different physical characteristics... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well guess what... you just said there are races. :D |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:01pm Grendel wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:49pm:
What no apology for lying about me and calling me a racist... you have sunk to new lows bwian... :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by John Smith on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:03pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
you probably saw a talking horse named Mr Ed on tv too :D :D....... you idiot |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Dnarever on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:33pm
Why has this not been moved to extremism exposed ???
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Dnarever on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:34pm John Smith wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:03pm:
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Yes I seen him too, that's weird. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:57pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:07pm rhino wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:11pm rhino wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
Thanks Rhino, it's called natural selection. Those who died from thirst didn't survive to pass on their genes. I feel superior to be able to educate these numbskulls. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 29th, 2017 at 11:28pm
Brian likes to think all people are the same, there are no races and no specific racial characteristics. This is of course, nonsense. Its indisputable that racial groups adapted to their climate just as desert aboriginals are able to go much longer without water than white people, their bodies have adapted to use less water in extreme heat. How they are able to do this is mainly due to physical characteristics, less sweat glands, dark skin, wide noses etc.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 12:21am Quote:
Indigenous Australians are not unique in this regard, three days is the average that people can survive without water, a week is the maximum. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 30th, 2017 at 5:21am Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 12:21am:
Are you saying that 60,000 years of natural selection in Australia did nothing to change the genes of Aboriginals? |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:39am Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 12:21am:
No one said Abos were unique, in fact Kalahari Bushmen have similar ability. Its just a fact Brian, humans do physically adapt to their environments. Suggest you do a bit of reading before Bobby makes you look stupid again. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Bojack Horseman on Jan 30th, 2017 at 8:24am WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
The only person I consider inferior is the person who started this stupid thread. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm rhino wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:39am:
"Oh, I heard on the radio..." goes the song, Rhino. Until you or Bobby put up some proof that what Bobby claims is true, I think we can safely disregard it. There is no evidence that Indigenous Australians were superior at being able to go without water. In reality, they knew where water was and where it was likely to be and went there to replenish their supplies. QED. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 30th, 2017 at 6:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by jeez on Jan 30th, 2017 at 6:27pm
They knew not how to defend the great southern land from a couple of ships.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by jeez on Jan 30th, 2017 at 6:37pm
A couple of mirrors a bag of sugar was all it took for Cook to ensure this place didn't go to wrack and ruin.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:18pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 12:21am:
Are you saying that 60,000 years of natural selection in Australia did nothing to change the genes of Aboriginals? |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:28pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Not appreciably, Bobby. Not to the point that they don't need water like every other human being. When are you going to provide a link to a scientific paper that suggests otherwise? Mmmm? ::) Quote:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by jeez on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:35pm
When the theory tests are through head to Port Augusta {port agudda} for some practical experience, it is an eye opener, perhaps to Ceduna where welfare cards are in play, maybe a little tamer to the less educated.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:36pm Johnnie wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
I've visited Port Augusta many times over the years whenever I was on Army Exercise at El Alamein or Cultana training area. I've been through Ceduna a few times as well. Nothing inexplicable in either town. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by jeez on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:45pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
You got to be kidding. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by jeez on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:49pm
Why the welfare card in Ceduna, I will tell you why, Boongs out of control.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm Johnnie wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:45pm:
Nope. I am not kidding. I have visited Port Augusta about 3-4 times a year. Ceduna I used to visit about once or twice a year. Why do you find this strange? ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm Johnnie wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by jeez on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:14pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
Yawn the welfare card, go back to your theory. BTW did you venture out into the night life in port Augusta or were you to busy with the brasso on the eyelets of your boots or doing time on DP whilst in SA. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:53pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 30th, 2017 at 11:10pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
They need water - don't change my words. They can survive for longer without water. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31st, 2017 at 12:11am Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
Evidence, please, Bobby. Hard evidence. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Raven on Feb 1st, 2017 at 4:46pm
Raven has not heard of a single scientific study that shows Aboriginal people can survive longer then other races.
Aboriginal people may have appeared to survive longer without water to early settlers but that was because they knew where to find water that others did not. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:12pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31st, 2017 at 12:11am:
I am sorry - I can't find the evidence. I saw it on a TV doco once - that's all. They can survive for longer without water |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Raven on Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:21pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:12pm:
How much longer are we talking here? |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Sir Bobby on Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:24pm Raven wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:21pm:
I said before - if my memory is correct it was something like 1 day before death for a European in the hot desert & 3 days before death for an Aborigine. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:24pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 5:12pm:
Tsk, tsk, so no evidence then? Shame on you Bobby, shame. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:29pm
In nature and evolution something superior comes along and it's competition either dies out or consumed by interbreeding. That's what's happening to the aborigines. It's a tech savy world now. Throwing a spear is old news. It's a story that's been played out over and over throughout the ages.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:47pm Johnnie wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:49pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:29pm:
Never known any Indigenous Australians who could throw a spear, Hammer. All my friends lived in suburbia, like the rest of Australian society. They have adapted to the "tech savvy world". Its a shame that so many righties haven't (look at the technical section to see Herbie's latest laments about his computer)... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:01pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 6:49pm:
Suburban aborigines are mostly part bloods and are in the process of being consumed by interbreeding like I said. The same thing will happen to the real aborigines on the land in time. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:01pm:
Not believing in the concept of "race" and not being a racist, I don't particularly care, Hammer. You can play your "race" card somewhere else. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Mr Hammer on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:09pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:44pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:09pm:
No one, except racists care about "race" any more, Hammer. That is reality. White people, brown people, black people, yellow people are all mixing and all will end up coffee coloured. No one cares about "race" any more. No one. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 1st, 2017 at 8:07pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:44pm:
So all those ads saying 'Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are encouraged to apply" refer to no identifiable group, after all, because there are no such things as Aborigines. Racial dioscrimination (18) is buncum because there is no such thing as race to be the grounds of discriminartion. Timmie Southpommie will not be happy about this, Brian, you are doing him out of a very lucrative job. tut tut is in order, what?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1st, 2017 at 8:52pm Frank wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 8:07pm:
As always, "race" is a social construct, Soren. You construct a hierarchy on the basis of "race" which is centred around superficial, physical adaptations to environment such as skin colour/eye shape/etc, not on what makes a human a human, their Genetics. Simples, really. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 9:09pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 8:52pm:
Which of your dearly held values are not socially constructed, 'thick as f***g mud Brian'? |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 9:13pm Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 9:09pm:
"Race" is a social construct, Soren. Genetics determines whether not someone is a human being and Genetics states that all humans are the same genetically. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 9:40pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 9:13pm:
Which of your dearly held values are not socially constructed, 'thick as f***g mud Brian'? Diversity, tolerance, Muslim, Christian, progressive, conservative - all socially constructed. So 'denouncing' race as merely socially constructed shows you up as the mindless, unthinking thick f**k you really are. Sooo.... Which of your dearly held values are not socially constructed, 'thick as f***g mud Brian'? Yawn time - except I do not want you to signal your desire to be orally penetrated. You gross perverted bastard. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 10:27pm Frank wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 4th, 2017 at 8:45am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 7:44pm:
LOL, you are such a low brow Greenie.... how are those fairies you spend time with in your garden? How much time will it take how many billions of people to become racially homogenous? As for people caring about race? Well people like YOU care about it, you keep attacking others about it. Just because people recognise racial differences and human heritage doesn't make them racists bwian... yet you are so dumb you attack, ridicule and name-call every single day... who is obsessed with race? :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 4th, 2017 at 10:45am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 8:52pm:
We are not talking about the difference between humans and fish, Brian. Wake up. We are talking about differences between races. Breeds of humans, if you like. There are unmistakable difference between a German shepherd and poodle even though they can breed. What's the difference between a Zulu and a Japanese? |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 4th, 2017 at 11:21am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2017 at 8:52pm:
Well I have pointed out your disingeuousness in regards this b4 bwian, but it seems you never learn. perhaps all that yawning is the problem with you. http://time.com/91081/what-science-says-about-race-and-genetics/ Quote:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 4th, 2017 at 3:40pm Grendel wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 8:45am:
Geoff, as always fixates on the biology but ignores the social aspects of believing in the matter of "race". I wonder why? Is it because you seek a biological basis to base your racism on? Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 4th, 2017 at 3:43pm Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 10:45am:
Nothing, Genetically, Soren. Zulus and Japanese can interbreed quite successfully. All humans belong to the one "race", the Human one, Homo Sapien Sapiens. This is a scientific fact. We, as humans (although sometimes I doubt it in your case) all share the same Genetic mix. It is why we can all interbreed, why there are no other species of Humanity nor any sub-speciies. We are all the same "race". "Race" as you use the term, is purely a social construct, one that originates in the 18th century. Before that, people were just people with different coloured skins or shaped eyes and so on... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 4th, 2017 at 3:47pm Grendel wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 11:21am:
One Journalist's view on the science. No Geneticist that I know of ascribes to this viewpoint. "Race" is, according to them, as used by you and other racists, Geoff, is purely a social construct. There is more differences, Genetically, within each "racial" group than there is between them. This is an established scientific fact. QED. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:35pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Society is not about genetics, you stupid, thick ignoramus. Genetics it totally, TOTALLY irrelevant. That's why you cleave to it, bozo. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Lisa Jones on Feb 4th, 2017 at 10:36pm WN wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Aboriginals were not as technologically advanced as white people....but they seemed happy living their simple life. And they respected their environment. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Setanta on Feb 4th, 2017 at 11:05pm
Perhaps the question needs to be redefined, are Abos an inferior people/subset?
Not really but I dislike their victimhood. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5th, 2017 at 12:14am Frank wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Spoken like a true racist there, Soren. Really? Genetics is the whole story and it demonstrates what is wrong with your racism. It is based on lies, prejudice and of course, discrimination against innocent people who just happen to have different coloured skin to you... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5th, 2017 at 12:17am Setanta wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 11:05pm:
Nope. Quote:
Their "victimhood" is something that is forced on them by the wider white society. None of the Indigenous Australians I know act like victims, Setanta. I am unsure where you get the idea that they like being "victims"? Could it be the media which likes to get outraged whenever an Indigenous Australian stands up for their rights? ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 5th, 2017 at 8:52am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
You mean as always I focus on the topic, don't ignore facts or move goalposts like you do bwian.... You need to stop lying about me and libelling me on public forums too bwian... I'm no racist I've proved it and you are a filthy liar for saying different when you know well, it is a lie. :D :D :D :D :D You need to stop it, or see a shrink. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 5th, 2017 at 11:32am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 12:14am:
Not even you would believe that is is nothing but simply different skin colour. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 5th, 2017 at 12:45pm
Bwian denies biology...
Biology is a natural science concerned with the study of life and living organisms, including their structure, function, growth, evolution, distribution, identification and taxonomy. Modern biology is a vast and eclectic field, composed of many branches and subdisciplines. Quote:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:47pm Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 11:32am:
Prove to us that people with different skin colour aren't human beings, Soren. I look forward to your efforts. It will be amusing. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by miketrees on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:48pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvpjZ_WjnPg
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:52pm Grendel wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 12:45pm:
Your quote assumes that all races do not possess individuals with darker or light skin colour (more or less melanin). You can have dark skinned Europeans and you can have light skinned Indigenous Australians, Geoff. Skin colour is purely an adaptation to how much sunlight an individual gets. Trying to claim that it is somehow unique ignores that. Tsk, tsk. ::) You can have darker skin in your Genes, no matter who you are. Remember the case of the South African woman who was classed as "coloured" despite having two white parents and four white grand-parents? Darker skin colour occurs across the world: |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:53pm Grendel wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 8:52am:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:03pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Me: recognising someone's race is NOT simply about skin colour. You: prove that other kin colours are not human. And you wonder and yawn why you are universally recognised as the biggest fool around. Pouting, preening - totally stupid. Never mind Abos - you are a one man inferior race, Brian. And you make a concerted effort to be stupider than anyone else. You have a competitive streak. You want to be stupider than the next man. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:10pm Frank wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:03pm:
Skin colour means nothing other than how much Melanin an individual has in their skin cells, Soren. I see you've flunked your first test 'cause to admit that would demolish your idea that "race" is something other than a social construct. So, tell us what differences Genetically are there between say a European person and an South American person? Does any Genetic difference prevent them from being counted as a "Human Being", Soren? I look forward to your response. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:23pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
skull shape. Forensic anthropologists use skull size and shape to differentiate between races. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:57pm
Re your "skin" map and post bwian...wassup failed or never studied biology? You certainly failed English...
Racial differences do not merely include skin colour bwian. Do grow up. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 5th, 2017 at 10:59pm
Oh look, Brian ran away.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:04am rhino wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:23pm:
Forensic Anthropology is only about what can be physically observed, Rhino. Genetics is about the genetic make up of what makes a human being a member of the Homo Sapien Sapiens species - the only "race" which matters, the human one. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:05am Grendel wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:20am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:04am:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:45am rhino wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:20am:
Physical characteristics are simply too broad, you can have Europeans with large, African type skulls, Africans with small, Asian shaped skulls and so on and so on. Have you ever heard of "The Elephant Man," Rhino? What would a forensic anthropologist make of his skull? What about "The Piltdown Man"? All unusual skull shapes, not normally associated with Europeans. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:54am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:45am:
Quote:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 1:02am rhino wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:54am:
Ah, but the Piltdown Man was created from bone fragments, Rhino, one of which was part of a human skull. As for the Elephant Man, yes he was deformed but he was still a European man. According to you, the magic of Forensic Anthropology should have been able to identify him... Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 6th, 2017 at 1:17am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 1:02am:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 6th, 2017 at 10:27am
To put it simply bwian YOU ARE WRONG...
Races exist... Nothing you say or do will change that. I see no reason to post more proof because you simply ignore it. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 5:32pm "Race" is a social construct. Genetically, we all belong to the one human species, Homo Sapien Sapiens. We all share the same Genes, we all are able to interbreed. We all belong to the Human race, the only "race" that matters. Racism is based upon lies and prejudice surround the physical differences between individuals. The colour of one's skin, the shape of one's eyes, the thickness of one's lips, do not determine anything other than the physical appearance of an individual, they do not affect the mental ability or capacity of people. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 6th, 2017 at 7:09pm
NO IT ISN'T BWIAN.... go back and re-educate yourself in facts and reality... how many times must people post them for you until you finally accept you are wrong ?
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 6th, 2017 at 7:11pm Grendel wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 12:45pm:
FACTS.... YOU ARE WRONG!!! |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 6th, 2017 at 7:12pm Grendel wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 11:21am:
MORE FACTS PROVING YOU EVEN MORE WRONG!!! |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 9:22pm |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 6th, 2017 at 9:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
science disagrees. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Emma on Feb 6th, 2017 at 10:38pm
The answer to the question is a resounding NO.
It does really beg the question... compared to what exactly?? |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6th, 2017 at 11:32pm rhino wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 9:48pm:
Prove it. Psychology BTW, isn't a "science" in the accepted use of the term, Hammer. So, show us the proof that refutes what I have said. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 7th, 2017 at 8:26am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 11:32pm:
We've already proven it bwian... stop lying to yourself and others... |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 7th, 2017 at 7:57pm Grendel wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 8:26am:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 7th, 2017 at 8:31pm
yep.... still got nothin eh bwian... ::)
as usual... ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 7th, 2017 at 9:33pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 11:32pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Emma on Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:29pm
Well, ignore me if you are too scared to answer.
[quote author] The answer to the question is a resounding NO. It does really beg the question... compared to what exactly??[/quote] So? I ask again.....'inferior compared to......???'. :-? :P |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:57pm Grendel wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:58pm Emma wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:29pm:
So? I ask again.....'inferior compared to......???'. :-? :P[/quote] This lot can't even prove that the "races" exist, except as a social construct, Emma. How can you expect them to make a value judgement about Indigenous Australians whom they have never associated with? ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:58pm rhino wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 9:33pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 7th, 2017 at 11:36pm
No brian, you cant give me a blow job.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Raven on Feb 7th, 2017 at 11:56pm
This concept of race is a difficult thing to define, there is no gene or cluster of genes common to all blacks or all whites. It would appear that the concept of white or black as discreet groups ignores the scope of human diversity.
In an article published in the journal Science, four scholars say racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out Unraveling the Human Genome: 6 Molecular Milestones What race means, the characteristics we attach to it and the classifications within it, is not static or primordial. Rather dynamic and changeable. Take Aboriginal people. Their culture is about a person's connections not their skin colour. Raven is considered an Aboriginal, even though he is Caucasian. Raven's connection to the people and the land in which they dwell has, in their eyes, earned him the right to identify as Aboriginal. However Raven himself does not identify as Aboriginal because he feels he has yet to earn that right. Race, it seems is more than ones skin colour. Take the so called one-drop rule in the US. The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification asserting that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan-African ancestry ("one drop" of black blood) is considered black (Negro in historical terms). This concept evolved over the course of the 19th century and became codified into law in the 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" and is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:01am rhino wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 11:36pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:37am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:01am:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:52pm rhino wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:37am:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:59pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:20pm rhino wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:31pm
looks like brian wasnt successful at picking up.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9th, 2017 at 3:36pm rhino wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 9th, 2017 at 3:44pm
Here's how you spell it bwian... YAWN
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9th, 2017 at 3:45pm Grendel wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 3:44pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Emma on Feb 10th, 2017 at 12:02am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
So that's definitely a YAWN.. The answer is No, so we can all go back and try something else like a snooze.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Raven on Feb 10th, 2017 at 1:26am
That's it Raven is calling it
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Frank on Feb 11th, 2017 at 12:14am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
Try it slowly, try it by sounding it out, Brian. From the highlighted bit. Give it a go, you might comprehend it. See how you go. Help: I said race is not about skin colour. You upbraid me as if I had said race was about skin colour. No wonder people laugh at you. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11th, 2017 at 12:58am Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 12:14am:
You have yet to demonstrate why, in your words, "race is about more than skin colour," Soren. Again you have failed to demonstrate what the Genetic differences are between a white person and a black person. "Race" is a social construct. Time you woke up to that. You have constructed a hierarchy of "races" in order to place your own at the top and denigrate all others. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:33am
These are anecdotal but based on contact and interaction with thousands of aboriginals, the whiter an aboriginal is the higher the IQ. The darker the dumber. The bush Aboriginals have IQs of around 75. IQ tests confirm all this. So, why do more white genetics raise IQ correspondingly? Someones got to run this place, white people are just smarter, they tried it for 50,000 years and got nowhere. Another little known fact, bush Abos have much higher rates of congenital mental illness.
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:01am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 12:58am:
But we are talking about RACE as a BIOLOGICAL thing bwian... do try to keep up we aren't using your misuse of the term that only social scientists use... you are such a dishonest and/or lame debater. Stop posting crap and stick to the actual subject. |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:30pm rhino wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:33am:
Really? And where is your evidence to support these suppositions, Rhino? I note no links to articles, no links to research papers, just your opinion which frankly, as per usual, is based upon prejudice and racism. Try harder, Padewan, use the Force, otherwise you'll never make a Jedi! ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:33pm Grendel wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 8:01am:
You and your fellow racists are not, Geoff, talking about the Genetics of "race". Exclusively, you talk about the social effects of what you describe as "race". When you clean your act(s) up and stop talking about social aspects of "race" and talk about the Genetics, then I might listen to you. Until then, I will simply continue to yawn at your efforts. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:37pm
You need to stop calling me names and lying about me bwian... everytime you get shot down you resort to the most defamatory language. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:12pm Grendel wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
If you don't like me using a descriptive noun to describe what you post, then I'd recommend you stop posting your racism, Geoff, 'cause that is all you do. You and your fellow racists are simply posting the same old bullshit about the social conditions of "race", and nothing about the Genetics, no matter how often I challenge you to. You cannot rise up to the argument, instead resorting to your useless diatribes against me personally. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:12pm:
Nothing I post is RACIST bwian.... stop lying all the time... Bwian if you honestly believe what you post YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO SEEK HELP. But I know you are just a dishonest liar... and so does everyone else bwian... |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:20pm Grendel wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:43pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:56pm rhino wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:43pm:
Really? Where? When? My experience suggests otherwise. Ever been to Broome? ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Setanta on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:00am Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:56pm:
I have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20oqyMVbss0 ;D I haven't been to Tassie yet, I guess than makes me a virgin. :'( |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:21am Setanta wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:00am:
Ever been to Dapto? I haven't. ;) I've been to Tassie, so I've lost my virginity... |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Emma on Feb 12th, 2017 at 2:53am
Ever been through Dunedoo?
Seriously tho, this is an improper topic and should now cease. It serves no good purpose. :( |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:09pm Emma wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 2:53am:
Could not agree more. All it is is a place where the racists and Xenophobes can let loose their hatreds and prejudices. It is disgusting, Emma. ::) |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Grendel on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 4:09pm:
Finally a confession from bwian... :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12th, 2017 at 8:10pm Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:48pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Rhino on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:30pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 11:56pm:
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Title: Re: Are abos an inferior race? Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12th, 2017 at 10:49pm rhino wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
So what is special about the population and what the majority do there? |
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