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Title: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Yadda on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 10:30pm

~~Diversity Makes Us Smarter~~

Worshiping at the alter of 'Diversity', is a crock.

What makes us smarter, is recognising, and defending open truth.

And, discriminating against liars and deceivers.

e.g.
Moslems are not Australians.

Even moslems living in Australia, who have secured Australian citizenship, are not Australians.

Why so ?

The allegiance and loyalty of the moslem, is to ISLAM exclusively.

Any moslem who denies that,       is a FILTHY STINKING, LYING, DECEITFUL moslem.

Study declared ISLAMIC doctrine.

It confirms that the loyalty of the moslem must always be to ISLAM, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd!

.

ARGUMENT;

The only 'contribution' which moslems make to Australia, to my observation, is;

1/ to seek to differentiate themselves from all other Australians, in everything single thing that that they do,

2/ to promote ISLAMIC 'ideals' here in Australia,

------------ >

IMAGE....

"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

and,
3/ to grow their numbers, here in Australia, as quickly as possible.

Period.

.

Read what Allah commands to the moslem, in the Koran, about mercy and kindness, and about how moslems should treat disbelievers.

------------ >

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

And what,    ....towards anyone who does not embrace ISLAM ??? ------- >

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

anyone who does not embrace ISLAM ------- >

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

anyone who does not embrace ISLAM ------- >

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them." [i.e. is NOT a moslem in the eyes of Allah]
Koran 5.51

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"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Koran 9.111

ARGUMENT;
For those who would argue that those Koran verses are an anachronism,    ....and that Koran verses do not reflect or guide, the intent of the moslem community, here in Australia, today,          .....I would offer, that the Koran is, and always has been, ~the~ most important source of religious authority for ISLAMIC religious leaders, and ~the~ most important source of religious instruction, for every moslem.

Any person who would suggest other than that, is either ignorant, OR, is being deliberately deceitful.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by miketrees on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 10:33pm

No, it just makes us look smarter in comparison

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Unforgiven on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 11:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

That's why UK is in a spiral to its doom. Too much inbreeding.

Migrants are the saviors of the poms.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Rhino on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 11:30pm

Indians arent making anyone smarter.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 12:03am

rhino wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 11:30pm:

Indians arent making anyone smarter.

Don't know many Indians do you, Rhino? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Bias_2012 on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:19am

Our Rugby League team started losing international games from the time they introduced "Islanders" into the team

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by BigOl64 on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 10:43am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

That would explain why mussies tend to be of limited intelligence and capability, there is no multi-cultural immigration programs in most (any) mussie countries. Those mussies who do immigrate will tend to stay within their own culture and condemn (kill) those who do not conform to their narrow expectations, all the while feasting on unlimited welfare

You could open your door to anyone except mussies and you will definitely be culturally enriched. Otherwise you have a couple of kabab shops and a mass of hateful muslim enclaves causing all sort of problems (crime) for your country if you do.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 2:16pm

Quote:

Decades of research by organizational scientists, psychologists, sociologists, economists and demographers show that socially diverse groups (that is, those with a diversity of race, ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation) are more innovative than homogeneous groups.

Really? Innovation on a large scale begins in Europe around the 1600s, which was a time when diversity (in regards to the categories mentioned) was low. 'Gender' and 'sexual orientation' is something very recent, and it's debatable whether it plays any role at all. How does sucking another bloke's dick make you innovative?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Unforgiven on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 2:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 12:03am:

rhino wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 11:30pm:

Indians arent making anyone smarter.

Don't know many Indians do you, Rhino? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Rhino disports itself with cowboys.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 3:21pm

The aforementioned categories are a red herring. Innovation occurs when someone (or a group of people) master a particular subject/discipline then transcend the known boundaries of that subject/discipline in a way that improves on them. No one innovates because they want to cut off their dick or go suck a dick.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 3:43pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:

Quote:

How does it stop you from being "innovative"? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 4:10pm

That wasn't the claim. The claim was 'how diversity makes us smarter'. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 5:20pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

That wasn't the claim. The claim was 'how diversity makes us smarter'. ::)

Yet you are attempting to use it as a negative. Why? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

That wasn't the claim. The claim was 'how diversity makes us smarter'. ::)

Yet you are attempting to use it as a negative. Why? ::)

Because, as indicated, innovation has nothing to do with the categories mentioned. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:15pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 5:20pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

That wasn't the claim. The claim was 'how diversity makes us smarter'. ::)

Yet you are attempting to use it as a negative. Why? ::)

Because, as indicated, innovation has nothing to do with the categories mentioned. ::)

Yet the article differs. As it is based on Scientific evidence, what are your beliefs based on? Prejudice? Divisive hatred? Racism? What, exactly? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm

I answered that in reply 10.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Any answer for this? Racist bigot.

First you claim that Eritrea is a majority Christian country then you claim non muslims are the majority.

Your figures clearly show 50% of the population are Muslim. You state that non religious groups make up 53% that makes 103%.

From the above we are able to ascertain you are :-

A Muslim that practises deception in an attempt to prove a point!

A Muslim with a very poor comprehension of English!

A Muslim who failed arithmetics at the lowest level.

Go to bed child, school for you tomorrow!

Epic Fail Brian Ross!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't clear off Brian you are still responsible for your posts. Now answer them.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

By examining how innovation is made in any field/discipline. Study any ground breaking scientist, musician, engineer, philosopher etc. They first brilliantly understand the field in which they work. They then envision new directions in which the field can go. They see where the errors are, where improvements can be made. Did Wagner write brilliant operas because he might have sucked some dick on the side? Were Tesla's experiments and improvements on electricity created because he was one of the 88 genders that are supposed to now exist? Were Watt's improvements on the steam engine created by having a few blacks kicking around near his engineering sites? Laughable. You're blinded by the post-modern obsession with identity politics. You think you're trying to outsmart those pesky conservatives, but only making yourself out to be a fool blinded by ideology.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:56pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Diversity promotes innovation. Not by its members but by the tensions and encounters between them. CW, you're creating a strawman argument. It won't work. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 10:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Diversity promotes innovation. Not by its members but by the tensions and encounters between them. CW, you're creating a strawman argument. It won't work. ::)

It's not a strawman at all. It's a description of how creative people operate.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:39am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Diversity promotes innovation. Not by its members but by the tensions and encounters between them. CW, you're creating a strawman argument. It won't work. ::)

"Muslim lands" are said to be very diverse but they are totally stagnant and apathetic. No innovation there.

Diversity in itself is not a good thing it's endlessly touted as. Dog poo and vanilla ice cream have diverse ingredients but the ice cream is totally ruined and the dog poo is unimproved.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am

Diversity occurs naturally anyway. Everyone is unique in their own way. 'Diversity' has now come to mean something else - basically, less heterosexual, white males. They then extend from this idiotic proposition that innovation somehow magically comes about. Where have they been for the past 400 years? Europe has dominated the innovation scene - where 'diversity', as they see it, meant nothing.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:49pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Diversity promotes innovation. Not by its members but by the tensions and encounters between them. CW, you're creating a strawman argument. It won't work. ::)

It's not a strawman at all. It's a description of how creative people operate.

It is a strawman. It is your prejudiced view of how creative people operate, CW. In reality, diversity as the study in Scientific American shows, benefits from diversity within a society. Your example of 1600 CE in Europe is flawed because it fails to take into account the diversity that the Reformation and Counter-Reformation had on European society through the 30 years war and the age of exploration. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:51pm

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:39am:

Diversity in itself is not a good thing it's endlessly touted as. Dog poo and vanilla ice cream have diverse ingredients but the ice cream is totally ruined and the dog poo is unimproved.

Speaking from personal experience, Soren? I thought you liked Danish? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:52pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am:

Europe's day has been long over, since the middle of the 20th century. The US presently predominates. China is about to take the lead. CW. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm

Diversity depends on the types of people you bring into your country. Bring in bad cultures and you'll end up with issues. Just like the Africans in Melbourne are proving to be. More thought needs to be put into the politics of diversity.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Unforgiven on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:58pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

British Aboriginals?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:59pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

British Aboriginals?

They built the country that all you blow ins want to move to. You are the british aborigines bitch! Following him around the globe and licking his balls like a submissive dog.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by BigOl64 on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

Well there is a solution, it has everything to do with being grateful and a good citizen and nothing to do with being a pussy afraid of being called a racist.

You by start sending the ungrateful pricks back to where that came by the shipload and the rest will tow the line real fast.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

What are THEY doing about THEIR problems - other than bleat, "oh, it's only a tiny minority with problems, the rest of us a fully integrated, more Aussie than the rest of you infidels"!!!

Well, that's your line anyway, Brian.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:17pm

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

Soren, you really are very, very, bigoted, aren't you? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

So, you would rather send them back to the situation that they escaped from rather than to help them to fix their own anti-social behavior?

It's all about terror for you, isn't it, Bigol64? Tsk, tsk. You'd make a fine third world dictator in say, Africa. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Most people don't, Hammer, despite what you might think. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Most people don't, Hammer, despite what you might think. ::)

Most people isn't a good thing brian. It should be all people brought here are benefiting our country.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Most people don't, Hammer, despite what you might think. ::)

Most people isn't a good thing brian. It should be all people brought here are benefiting our country.

Did you or Soren or Herbie or Kernal or any of the other Islamophobes and racists who came to Australia benefit us? I doubt it, quite strongly. All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Most people don't, Hammer, despite what you might think. ::)

Most people isn't a good thing brian. It should be all people brought here are benefiting our country.

My family has been traced back to the late 1790's in Australia butthole. My family has fought in all of the wars and worked hard. It's traitors like you who are destroying Australia.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:07pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Most people don't, Hammer, despite what you might think. ::)

Most people isn't a good thing brian. It should be all people brought here are benefiting our country.

My family has been traced back to the late 1790's in Australia butthole. My family has fought in all of the wars and worked hard. It's traitors like you who are destroying Australia.

And that makes you think you've made a valuable contribution to Australian society? Really?

All you've espoused has been hatred, division, racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. That is not a contribution of any value to Australian society. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

people shouldn't be brought in with problems Brian!! ::)

Most people don't, Hammer, despite what you might think. ::)

Most people isn't a good thing brian. It should be all people brought here are benefiting our country.

My family has been traced back to the late 1790's in Australia butthole. My family has fought in all of the wars and worked hard. It's traitors like you who are destroying Australia.

People like you have brought the enemy to our shores and put them behind the lines where innocent civilians are vulnerable.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Bring people in and ignore their problems, you end up with "issues", Hammer. It happened with the Lebanese, it happened with the Indo-Chinese, it is now happening with Africans. ::)

Soren, you really are very, very, bigoted, aren't you? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe. ::) ::)

Don't be stupid.

We take far more notice of their problems than their own people have ever done - that's why they are refugees, that's why they are here. Don't let Muslims lecture us about how we don't care for them enough when they are fleeing Muslims like themselves.

At what point can we say - hey, you guys need to take responsibility for yourselves, you have housing, income support, English classes, employment services, education services, all sorts of other services - time to make SOME FRACKING EFFORT of your own!!

When is the time for that?

Brian - you ARE such a Brian, aren't you?? A goof, blowing in the wind of ideas you cannot fathom.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:51pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:39am:

Diversity in itself is not a good thing it's endlessly touted as. Dog poo and vanilla ice cream have diverse ingredients but the ice cream is totally ruined and the dog poo is unimproved.

Speaking from personal experience, Soren? I thought you liked Danish? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Yes, personal experience, Brian.

Add you to any discussion and it's ruined without you being improved in any way.

You - and gweggy - are the dog poo of any discussion, Brian - you ruin everything without being improved yourselves.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:10pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 11:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

That's why UK is in a spiral to its doom. Too much inbreeding.

Migrants are the saviors of the poms.

It's the migrants who are inbreeding ya dopey dim wit.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392217/Muslim-outrage-professor-Steve-Jones-warns-inbreeding-risks.html

Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:28pm

'Diversity' is for the unimaginative.

They can't imagine what it's like to be surrounded by dirty, dangerous heathens so they must BE surrounded by them.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:46pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

I answered that in reply 10.

And what made you give that answer, CW? Mmmm? ::)

Diversity promotes innovation. Not by its members but by the tensions and encounters between them. CW, you're creating a strawman argument. It won't work. ::)

It's not a strawman at all. It's a description of how creative people operate.

It's got nothing to do with prejudices or a strawman. It's just a description. Read a biography on someone innovative. They won't mention that they owe their creativity to dick sucking or being 'gender diverse'. They owe it to hard work, years of study and experimentation.

You know the funny thing about your reformation and counter-reformation example? It's drenched in blood. I bet you weren't thinking about that type of diversity when you posted the link on race, ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation. You were thinking about 'holding hands and rainbows' type of diversity. Idiot. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am:

Europe's day has been long over, since the middle of the 20th century. The US presently predominates. China is about to take the lead. CW. ::)

Putting aside whether that is true or not, how does that refute my claims?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:55pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am:

Europe's day has been long over, since the middle of the 20th century. The US presently predominates. China is about to take the lead. CW. ::)

Putting aside whether that is true or not, how does that refute my claims?

Where you claim, "Europe has dominated the innovation scene..." It has not. Before 1650, China did. After 1940, the USA did. After approximately 2020, the PRC will.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:57pm

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:28pm:

'Diversity' is for the unimaginative.

They can't imagine what it's like to be surrounded by dirty, dangerous heathens so they must BE surrounded by them.

http://rs717.pbsrc.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/SleepKeyboard.gif~c200

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:38am:

Europe's day has been long over, since the middle of the 20th century. The US presently predominates. China is about to take the lead. CW. ::)

Putting aside whether that is true or not, how does that refute my claims?

Where you claim, "Europe has dominated the innovation scene..." It has not. Before 1650, China did. After 1940, the USA did. After approximately 2020, the PRC will.

Clown, I said for the past 400 years as I was fully aware that Europe's rise begins only around this time. You purposely left that out. I'm done with you. You're a liar. Go away.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 11:01pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

Individuals may believe that. Societies don't. As we are discussing innovation from a societal viewpoint, your point is meaningless. Innovation comes from diversity. Until the old order of one established religion was overturned, Europe was a dead end as far as innovation was concerned, importing many of it's ideas from the Muslim and Asian worlds.

Quote:

You know the funny thing about your reformation and counter-reformation example? It's drenched in blood. I bet you weren't thinking about that type of diversity when you posted the link on race, ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation. You were thinking about 'holding hands and rainbows' type of diversity. Idiot. ::)

Yes, it was, in the end drenched in blood. That is one of the consequences of diversity asserting itself. The old order resists it. Just like Soren is now. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Yadda on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

what moslems follow......

division, - them and us, don't associate with, or have friends among disbelievers [except to profit yourself] "Kaffir is the worst word ever written"

hatred - hate disbelievers, love fellow believers "those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."

racism - disbelievers have the status of cattle "the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve"

Islamophobia - ISLAM promotes Islamophobia "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah" "I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."

Brian,

What a steaming hypocrite, and deceiver, you are.

Quack, quack.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 5:55pm

17-Year-Old Michigan Girl Charged with Raping 19-Year-Old Man at Knifepoint

Have a look at her:

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

Show me a Muslim on this site, other than Gandalf who has done anything like yourself, Yadda? I have criticised the Muslims that deserve criticism, the Islamists and Extremists, not the ordinary, everday, assimilated, moderate Muslims who make up the overwhelming majority of Australia's Muslim population.

You appear willing to make excuses for your own actions which are, I remind you, your responsibility. Since when were Muslims responsible for what you believe/say/do? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by issuevoter on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:53am

The reason most cultures frown on the marriage of siblings, is the awareness of defects in offspring. In 2017, anyone who disbelieves that genetic diversity is desirable is simply ignorant of the facts, or trying to concoct some defense of their personal notions.

IMO, cultural diversity makes for a more interesting society, for reasons we could debate, but it is a fact that religious diversity is nothing more than the acceptance of ignorance and superstition. And while some religions are more tolerant than others, Islam is at the top of the list of intolerance towards other religions and cultures.

Outsiders who wish to defend Islam do so by avoiding what is said by the leaders and "Holy men" throughout the Islamic world, to whom diversity is anathema.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Yadda on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:04am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

Brian_Ross,

"the ordinary, everday, assimilated, moderate Muslims who make up the overwhelming majority of Australia's Muslim population"          are moslems.

Brian_Ross,

Why do you give every moslem a 'pass' ?

I ask,          because EVERY MOSLEM [by definition], is a person ~~who follows~~ who chooses to embrace a 'religious' philosophy which promotes,
intimidation,
lying,
deceit,
and political violence [terrorism]

.....as being 'lawful', so long as those crimes are committed against those who do not belong to their 'camp'.

Q.
Why is that OK Brian ?

e.g.
Why is it OK Brian,             when moslems over 'there' murder and rape in the name of ISLAM,
and then the moslems over 'here' are allowed to LIE,
and are allowed to PUBLICLY say, "Oh that has got nothing to do with our religion!" ?

And there is no scrutiny, and no criticism,       HERE, OF MAINSTREAM ISLAM       of ISLAM's precepts, tenets, doctrines, and the law of ISLAM,          which all deem, that all disbelievers are the enemies of Allah.

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.    < -------- dictionary definition.

Reason dictates that this is true......

Every moslem, is a moslem.

Every moslem living in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac.

Every moslem living in Australia is another Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, who is just waiting for his/her chance to prove their devotion to ISLAM.

-------- >

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"
- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325/73#73

Quote:

brian,

A question.

Why do you accuse those who are not moslems, of being bigots, for the 'crime' of questioning the bigotry and intolerance expressed within the Koran [which is ISLAM's foundation text, and which inspires VIOLENT moslem behaviour in the world against those who are not moslems],
but then you refuse 'to call out' ISLAM's bigotry and intolerance ?

Why is that, brian ?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

Well, they are responsible for what's happening in their own countries and for their own reputation across the world.

That's why half of Australia and the West wants to stop Muslim immigration - because of the reputation of Islam and the name Muslims have made for themselves.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:34pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

I just love the fantasy world you live in, Yadda. What is like inside your cupboard where you seem to live?

I wonder how:

Quote:

I have criticised the Muslims that deserve criticism, the Islamists and Extremists,

becomes in your mind:

Quote:

Why do you give every moslem a 'pass' ?

Are you using a strange, Yadda only definition of the word, "every"? "Every" in my language means ALL Muslims, Yadda, yet I have just criticised, "the Muslims that deserve criticism, the Islamists and Extremists," just right in front of you. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:37pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

So, tell us, Soren, do you hold yourself responsible for what is happening in Denmark?

I'm curious if you hold yourself to the same standards you appear to be holding Muslims?

As the overhwelming majority of Australian Muslims are, not unsurprisingly, Australian citizens I think they can in reality be only held responsible for events in Australia, where they live. Funny that, just as Danes can really only be held responsible for events in Denmark, where they live.

I suspect you hold Muslims to a far higher standard than you hold yourself, Soren. I'd suggest you clean up your own act before criticising others. It would do you good... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:37pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

Well, the Danes are responsible for the reputation and the state of affairs in Denmark, Australians for Australia and o forth - but it seems we cannot hold Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Gazans, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis and Indonesians responsible for their own countries. That responsibility can be transferred to others, non-Muslims.

Muslims, nobody else, is responsible for the reputation of Muslims and Islam.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:51pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:37pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Yadda wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

All you've done is promote division, hatred and racism and Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk, hardly much for unity on your side... ::) ::)

Brian_Ross,

When have you ever criticised ISLAM/moslems on this forum, for doing EXACTLY what you have accused Australians of ?????

Really? I've always held Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptions, Gazans, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis and Indonesians responsible for events in their own country, Soren.

Amazing though, that you don't answer the question I asked and instead attempt to divert us off in a tangent.

So, do you hold yourself responsible for events in Denmark? Yes/No.

Lets see an honest answer from you about yourself for a change, Soren, OK?

Quote:

Muslims, nobody else, is responsible for the reputation of Muslims and Islam.

Yep. And guess what? The overwhelming majority are doing a fine job of looking after it, Soren. Funny that. A minority are bastards, a minority are Islamists extremists. Guess who they target in the overwhelming majority of cases? Their fellow Muslims who disagree with them. Amazing how you overlook that everytime you attack Muslims... Tsk, tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

Everyone has seen through that, has had enough of it. If the Muslims can claim collective victim status then they can also be collectively denounced, called imbeciles and arsecovering opportunists. Balance.

How very convenient. You now have a moral justification for your racism. For it is racism, even FD has agreed that you are racist against muslims.

In any case, most muslims don't claim "collective victim status" with ISIS - they condemn them, uncategorically. Thats one of the reasons you mock us - remember?

You all claim to be the victims of the West, the Jews, the wrong kind of Muslims.

Muslims do not take responsibility for Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Gaza, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Indonesia; you do not take responsibility for your reputations in Western countries.

But all the troubles in those Muslim countries and your reputation in the West is entirely your doing.
As for ISIS, thy acts impeccably Koranically. They recite the Koran accurately, they follow Islamic precedent scrupulously.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:51pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:45pm:

Muslims, nobody else, is responsible for the reputation of Muslims and Islam.

Half of all Australians want to ban Muslim immigration: poll

Same in America and Denmark and Canada and most probably every other Western country with Muslim immigrants.

ISIS throws Iraqi teenager from top of building for being gay

Why is there no united Muslim action against ISIS if it is sooooo very contrary to every islamic tenet?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm

A Texas lawmaker is asking state mosque leaders to pledge support for the "safety" of former Muslims in a mailed survey being condemned by Islamic civil rights groups.

A spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations said Thursday that he told mosque leaders to ignore Republican state Rep. Kyle Biedermann.

One question asks respondents to renounce any possible persecution that those leaving Islam could face. Others inquired about renouncing "institutionalized Sharia law" and gauged support for having the U.S. State Department label the Muslim Brotherhood a foreign terrorist organization.

Biedermann said in a statement that the survey was prepared for an upcoming homeland security conference.

Another Texas lawmaker, Rep. Molly White, sparked outcry in 2015 after instructing Muslims visiting her state Capitol office to declare their allegiance to the U.S.
http://krwg.org/post/texas-lawmaker-polls-mosque-leaders-sharia-law-support

CAIR represents the 'peaceful, law abiding 'mainstream' Muslims in America. They would not pledge not to harm those who leave islam.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:37pm:

Why is there no united Muslim action against ISIS if it is sooooo very contrary to every islamic tenet?

How is Daesh doing at the moment, Soren? Really? They seem to be in retreat in Iraq and in Syria. Seems to be that there is a united front against them. You have Kurds, Sunni and Sh'ia Muslims, all united to defeat them. Looks like your Islamophobia has blinded you again... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

"I realize diversity is complex and its impact is difficult to measure but I'd like to see more metrics and measurement data than is shown in this article. As presented, it's almost all opinions. I have the same opinions but that's not science. I expect more in an article in Scientific American".

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Thats "Frank" Brain Dead, get it, Richard Cranium?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

How is Daesh doing at the moment,

DAESH-:= MUSLIMS Get it Brain Dead.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:07pm

kemal wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 5:56pm:

How is Daesh doing at the moment,

DAESH-:= MUSLIMS Get it Brain Dead.

Oh, dear, dearie me.

Quote:

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, IPA /ˈaɪsᵻl/), also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria[note 1] (ISIS, /ˈaɪsᵻs/),[39] Islamic State (IS), and by its Arabic language acronym Daesh (Arabic: داعش‎‎ dāʿish, IPA: ˈdaːʕɪʃ),[40][41] is a Salafi jihadist unrecognised state and militant group that follows a fundamentalist, Wahhabi doctrine of Sunni Islam.

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant]Source[/url]

Daesh is an Arabic acronym. It refers to a sub-group of Muslims, not all Muslims. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

No. They are not waging jihad against the West. He will ask them when they start a jihad, fear not.

AT the moment, though, ONLY Muslims are waging jihad against the West. ONLY Muslims refuse to assimilate and put Islam second after their adopted countries.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:36pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Some Muslims may be, Soren but that is not true of ALL Muslims, now is it?

Yet all those groups are known to harm those who have left them, often to the point of death. Why does he only demand that Muslims must obey the laws of the land and yet he ignores all the other religious groups' actions? Mmmm? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Look, dickeaddle, I think Islam is a deplorable, dreadful creed and anyone who adheres to it is questionable, to say the least. It is perfectly OK for me to think and say this, as a freeborn man in a free country.

It may not be the only deplorable and dreadful creed but is sure is one. You want to piss on other creeds?? feel free. I am pissing on this one. i

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

You all claim to be the victims of the West, the Jews, the wrong kind of Muslims.

Who is this "you" that you speak, Soren? I make no such claims. None of the Muslims I know make such claims. So, who are you talking about? It's not me. ::)

Quote:

Muslims do not take responsibility for Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Gaza, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Indonesia; you do not take responsibility for your reputations in Western countries.

I take responsibility for no other country except Australia, Soren. All the Muslims who live in those countries, as far as I am aware, take responsibility for their own countries' affairs. I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren. You keep making generic charges with out any evidence to back yourself. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

But all the troubles in those Muslim countries and your reputation in the West is entirely your doing.

As for ISIS, thy acts impeccably Koranically. They recite the Koran accurately, they follow Islamic precedent scrupulously.

Do they? Yet all the other Islams seem to hate them for their actions and their dictates, Soren. Funny how they are in retreat in Iraq and Syria. Do you acknowledge that now? Mmmm? ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:53pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Yes, you are free to believe that, Soren and as far as I am aware, I've never said you can't. Expressing it, however, continuously the way you do, smacks of religious persecution on the basis of religious belief. Tsk, tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Why can you express what you think and I can't, dickeaddle??

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 10:16pm

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:59pm:

A Texas lawmaker...

So, tell me, has he demanded that Christian Scientists, Scientologist, Christians, Mormons, etc, do the same, Soren? Really? ::) ::)

Why can you express what you think and I can't, dickeaddle??

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Yadda on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:24am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 10:16pm:

I don't persecute people because of their beliefs.....

Brian_Ross,

Really ?

But you DO defend the rights of moslems.

And [in defending the rights of the moslem] you DO defend ISLAM, as the religion of the moslem.

You defend the right of the moslem Brian,
......TO PRACTICE HIS RELIGION!

Q.
And to what consequence for those who ARE NOT moslems ?

A.
Moslems are the willing members of, a murderous death cult.

ISLAM is a philosophy which promotes and encourages intimidation, hostility, and the murder of those, who do not believe, as moslems believe.

And every moslem, as a follower of ISLAM [BECAUSE HE IS A FOLLOWER OF ISLAM], can at any moment [psychologically], take to himself the right to murder those around him, who do not believe, as moslems believe.

And as we, here in Australia, have frequently witnessed, when a moslem suddenly decides to invoke his right to murder, HE WILL ATTEMPT TO MURDER AUSTRALIANS WHO ARE NOT MOSLEMS, because they are not moslems.

And he will always commit those murders, in the name of ISLAM.

And that is the group of people whose rights you are choosing to defend.

Mainstream ISLAM teaches its followers, that to kill disbelievers is a virtuous act.

"its followers" = = those who declare; "I am a moslem."

ISLAM's revered Messenger of Allah confirms it.....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Google;
islam, unbelief is worse than killing

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:57am

The question is: how far is the West willing to go in order to extinguish its own future on the altar of "diversity".

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 4:08pm

Yadda wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 10:16pm:

I don't persecute people because of their beliefs.....

Brian_Ross,

Really ?

But you DO defend the rights of moslems.

And [in defending the rights of the moslem] you DO defend ISLAM, as the religion of the moslem.

Actually, I don't, Yadda. Something you would realise if you read my posts rather than just reacting to them in your usual Islamophobic way.

What I do defend is the right of people to believe what they want, to exercise their democratic and human rights to Freedom of Association, Freedom of Belief and Freedom of Speech. What they do with those rights is up to them. If you were being persecuted in the way you persecute Muslims, I would, in all likelihood defend your rights as well, even if I do think you're as crazy as a loon. ::) ::)

The overwhelming of Muslims in Australian society are happy, well-adjusted, ordinary citizens in a Multicultural/Multi-religious society. They have, despite your best efforts to argue against them, their rights and freedoms. Just as you do, Yadda.

You'll note that I've never argued for you to be silenced. I have never argued that your rights should be abridged. I tolerate your misuse of those rights. Indeed, I often enjoy arguing against you. I just wish you would extend the same courtesy to the Muslims in our society.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 4:12pm

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:57am:

The question is: how far is the West willing to go in order to extinguish its own future on the altar of "diversity".

The West has always, Soren, been a diverse group of nations and regions. Those diverse nations and/or regions have hosted a diverse group of societies/cultures/religions, particularly since the Reformation and Counter-Reformation and the Enlightenment. You appear to never understood this. Perhaps your Islamophobia blinds you to the reality of your own history, coming from that monoculture Denmark? Mmmm? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

You all claim to be the victims of the West, the Jews, the wrong kind of Muslims.

Who is this "you" that you speak, Soren? I make no such claims. None of the Muslims I know make such claims. So, who are you talking about? It's not me. ::)

Quote:

As for ISIS, thy acts impeccably Koranically. They recite the Koran accurately, they follow Islamic precedent scrupulously.

Do they? Yet all the other Islams seem to hate them for their actions and their dictates, Soren. Funny how they are in retreat in Iraq and Syria. Do you acknowledge that now? Mmmm? ::) ::)[/quote]

Why is it you are incapable of addressing people in the correct manner?

Are you BRAIN DEAD BRIAN DROSS?

Get it you piece of human excretia?

He states he is FRANK, get it Brain Dead F VCK wit.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 5:38pm

kemal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 4:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:22am:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

You all claim to be the victims of the West, the Jews, the wrong kind of Muslims.

Who is this "you" that you speak, Soren? I make no such claims. None of the Muslims I know make such claims. So, who are you talking about? It's not me. ::)

Quote:

Ah, so when the West causes the overthrow of a government in say, Iran or Egypt, it's suddenly totally the responsibility of the people in that country? Interesting.

My "reputation" is my affair alone, Soren. I've never claimed it was anybody else's. ::)

[quote]
As for ISIS, thy acts impeccably Koranically. They recite the Koran accurately, they follow Islamic precedent scrupulously.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 4:12pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:57am:

The question is: how far is the West willing to go in order to extinguish its own future on the altar of "diversity".

Which Western country had 4-5% Muslim population since the reformation, Brian? Or Asians?

There was no mass migration for decades from culturally distant countries from Asia an Africa. There wasn't even mass migration from one end of Europe to the other - there were no loads of Romanians and Poles migrating to Britain.

The whole refugee convention was for Europeans to move within the West, not for the vast movement of Third Worlders to move to the West.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:46pm

Bigoted Aussie redneck in action:

Woman captured on camera abusing a Muslim student wearing a niqab: ‘Take it off, you terrorist’

Racial attack outside Macquarie University in Sydney's northwest

A WOMAN has been caught on camera allegedly abusing a Muslim student wearing a niqab at a Sydney university, calling her a ‘Muslim terrorist’ and demanding she take off her veil.

Ramzy Alamudi posted the shocking video on Facebook, saying he was shocked by what happened about 1pm last Friday at Macquarie University, where his wife attends.

“As we entered the car, my wife (who wears an Islamic veil — niqab) decides to smile politely and wave innocently at the lady assuming everything was good ... This is where the entire situation just turned upside down,” Mr Alamudi wrote.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/woman-captured-on-camera-abusing-a-muslim-student-wearing-a-niqab-take-it-off-you-terrorist/news-story/b2e0caba6a134e272781570ca56e3e54

Diversity, eh?

;D ;D ;D ;D

(and how can you tell if she was smiling under the niqab?)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:06am

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 4:12pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:57am:

The question is: how far is the West willing to go in order to extinguish its own future on the altar of "diversity".

You mean the Western nations forgot to include a clause about the "race" or the culture or the religion of Refugees that they were willing to accept, Soren? Tsk, tsk, how shortsighted of them.

Alternatively, it might be that they didn't forget but specifically decided not to include such a clause because they believed in the universality of Human rights? ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:50pm

Nice title for a fairytale bwian, but a total crock... :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:06am:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 4:12pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:57am:

The question is: how far is the West willing to go in order to extinguish its own future on the altar of "diversity".

In the late 40s nobody expected Asia, Latin America and Africa to ever pull themselves out of poverty to be able to afford air travel en masse. Before the end of the Cold War (the end which nobody foresaw) there was no free travel and movement of people.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:07pm

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 12:06am:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 4:12pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:57am:

The question is: how far is the West willing to go in order to extinguish its own future on the altar of "diversity".

So, Xenophobia, racism and Islamophobia is dependent on the availability of travel for it's victims?

Interesting. Typical Xenophobic bullshit which is used to justify the unjustifiable. Tsk, tsk.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:19pm

Oh and bwian I noted this other nugget of untruth from you..

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You are kidding right. You post proof of persecution all over the NET. You Persecute Hanson, One Nation Supporters, Me... the list goes on and on and on... :D :D :D
Oh and bwian... I learned ad hominem from you... years ago, when you were bashing up timid ON supporters on the NET, so puhlease lets not even go there eh.
Do the words hypocrite, liar and humbug mean anything to you... they should... you are a prime example.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:21pm

Diversity doesn't make anyone smarter.
No IQS have gone up due to diversity have they? Where and when did that happen?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:28pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Oh and bwian I noted this other nugget of untruth from you..

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

There is a considerable difference between political criticism and religious persecution, Grendel as you are well aware. Hanson is a fool, something I note even you have admitted on this webboard several times in threads about her. You have also admitted she is a poor judge of character. There is a world of difference between that and claiming that all Muslims are Terrorists or supporters of Terrorists or that the Muslim religion is incompatible with Western society.

My criticism of Hanson and her band of village idiots has been purely on their political statements. If they spout racist bullshit, I'll call it racist bullshit. If they spout Xenophobic bullshit, I'll call it Xenophobic bullshit. If they spout Islamophobic bullshit, I'll call it Islamophobic bullshit. It is based on what they say. If you and they don't like it. if Pauline Hanson has had a "gutful" of being called a Xenophobic/Racist/Islamophobic bullshiter, then all she has to do is stop saying those things. My criticism will cease. Simples, really. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Oh and bwian I noted this other nugget of untruth from you..

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

One more time for bwian who likes moving goalposts...

You said and I QUOTE...

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

You just admitted you persecute people because of their beliefs.... you even lie about me bwian... if Hanson was as big a RACIST as you say, she wouldn't have hired Asians or made one Manager of her shop now would she...? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just admit you are a political and religious humbug. The rest of us will just nod and say yep, we already know bwian. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:20pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

Nice title for a fairytale bwian, but a total crock... :D :D :D

Still waiting for you to refute this and prove what you said bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Oh and bwian I noted this other nugget of untruth from you..

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

One more time for bwian who like moving goalposts...

You said and I QUOTE...
[quote]Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

You just admitted you persecute people because of their beliefs.... you even lie about me bwian... if Hanson was as big a RACIST as you say she wouldn't have hired Asians or made on Manager of he shop now would she...? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just admit you are a political and religious humbug. The rest of us will just nod and say yep, we already know bwian. ::) [/quote]

So, you're attempting to say that the politics of Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia is the same as a religious belief as expressed through a recognised religion, Grendel?

My, how interesting, how very interesting. So, Pauline Hanson is your Pope? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 4:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

you're attempting to say that the politics of Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia is the same as a religious belief as expressed through a recognised religion

Where was that stated Brian?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 4:49pm

Brian, nobody persecutes Muslims for their belief more harshly, bloodily than other Muslims.

If consistent criticism of Islam is 'persecution', what do you call bombings, shooting and the rest that Muslims inflict on each other? You should b putting your energy into preventing REAL persecutions, Brian.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 4:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

The politics of Islam is far, far, far worse than anything. They actually massacre each other for being slightly different Muslims - have been doing so for 1400 years - not just give interviews on TV and suggest policy changes in Parliament.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 5:19pm

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 4:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

And how is that different to what Christians have been doing for over 2,000 years, Soren? Really, are you that ignorant of history that you'd dismiss the Inquisition, the War of Saint Sabas, the Albigensian Crusade, the Northern Crusades, the Holy Crusades, the Reformation and Counter-Reformation, the Thirty Years War and so on and so on. All over the way they worshipped God. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 5:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 5:19pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 4:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

The latest on your list was about 300 years ago, Brian.

Nothing of any importance has been written in Arabic in the last 300+ years because nothing of any consequence has been thought under the straitjacket of Islam in that period.

Compare that to Western achievements in the last 300 years and tell me the West needs Islam.

You are ignorant, mouthy git.

Why on earth would you think that it is legitimate to compare today's Muslims to the West 300+ years ago? Muslims have access to the same world wide information, books, education, ideas - why don't they catch up? Because Islam is holding them back. The ones who shed and repudiate Islam emancipate within a few short years. The murderous maniacs are the ones who sign up to Islam rather than freedom of though.i

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 5:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Oh and bwian I noted this other nugget of untruth from you..

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

So, you're attempting to say that the politics of Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia is the same as a religious belief as expressed through a recognised religion, Grendel?

My, how interesting, how very interesting. So, Pauline Hanson is your Pope? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)[/quote]
Oh dear more foolishness, how very disingenuous of you bwian. Why make yourself look more foolish than most of us already think you are? :D :D :D
I'm saying you are a lying hypocrite bwian... you made a statement that is obviously untrue. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Oh and bwian I noted this other nugget of untruth from you..

Quote:

Perhaps because I don't persecute people because of their beliefs? Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate. You, on the otherhand... Roll Eyes

There is a considerable difference between political criticism and religious persecution, Grendel as you are well aware.

Simples, really. ::)

Muslims are persecuting and murdering each other while we kuffars offer political and religious criticism here.

But you expend all your negligible mental efforts on criticism 'as persecution' in order to willfully ignore the real Muslim on Muslim persecution.

You are an idiot, a falsifier, an ignorant, mouthy git who can be pissed on way, way too easily. You just do not have the mind, Brian. Too much time spent with Muslims??? I do wonder.

Go on, Brian, yawn.....

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:49pm

kemal wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 4:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

you're attempting to say that the politics of Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia is the same as a religious belief as expressed through a recognised religion

Where was that stated Brian?

yeah bwian.... :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:50pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

Nice title for a fairytale bwian, but a total crock... :D :D :D

Still waiting for you to refute this and prove what you said bwian...

Still waiting bwian.... keep deflecting and obfuscating its not going away... ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Diversity doesn't make anyone smarter.
No IQS have gone up due to diversity have they? Where and when did that happen?

Come on bwian... try answering some questions for a change.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 6:28pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Diversity doesn't make anyone smarter.
No IQS have gone up due to diversity have they? Where and when did that happen?

Come on bwian... try answering some questions for a change.

Why? You've set the example, Grendel. I'd recommend you read the article I've linked to. Talk to that Author. He might get a bit bored with your usual style of tantrum though. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Diversity doesn't make anyone smarter.
No IQS have gone up due to diversity have they? Where and when did that happen?

Come on bwian... try answering some questions for a change.

Why? You've set the example, Grendel. I'd recommend you read the article I've linked to. Talk to that Author. He might get a bit bored with your usual style of tantrum though. ::)

Why is it always ad hom with you and never straight answers... you lying hypocrite... :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Diversity doesn't make anyone smarter.
No IQS have gone up due to diversity have they? Where and when did that happen?

Come on bwian... try answering some questions for a change.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 9:41pm

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:59am

Typical... why do you come here and waste everbody's time.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:09am

Oh and bwian, I have read the article, I found it contradictory and flawed. You are a prime example of how Diversity does not make one smarter BTW, if you read the article and understood it, you'd know why.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:56am

Diversity…
Quote:

The first thing to acknowledge about diversity is that it can be difficult. In the U.S., where the dialogue of inclusion is relatively advanced, even the mention of the word “diversity” can lead to anxiety and conflict. Supreme Court justices disagree on the virtues of diversity and the means for achieving it.
It is reasonable to ask what good diversity does us. Diversity of expertise confers benefits that are obvious—you would not think of building a new car without engineers, designers and quality-control experts—but what about social diversity? What good comes from diversity of race, ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation? Research has shown that social diversity in a group can cause discomfort, rougher interactions, a lack of trust, greater perceived interpersonal conflict, lower communication, less cohesion, more concern about disrespect, and other problems.
Large data-set studies have an obvious limitation: they only show that diversity is correlated with better performance, not that it causes better performance.
This logic helps to explain both the upside and the downside of social diversity: people work harder in diverse environments both cognitively and socially. They might not like it, but the hard work can lead to better outcomes.
The pain associated with diversity can be thought of as the pain of exercise.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe...

LOL

https://neociceroniantimes.wordpress.com/2016/08/21/why-the-decline-of-americas-average-iq-is-a-cause-for-concern/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2730791/Are-STUPID-Britons-people-IQ-decline.html

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:16pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:59am:

Typical... why do you come here and waste everbody's time.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:17pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:09am:

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:19pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:56am:

Diversity…
Quote:

"Correlation does not denote causation, Grendel. How many times have I repeated that to you over the years? It is what all first year statistics students learn. You appear unable to learn it though... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:19pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:56am:

Diversity…
Quote:

Now now now bwian... don't kid yourself I used it against you and many other twerps re such things as climate change.
The point I was making re my quoting it bwian was that correlation does not prove causation. What's up? Brain not working?
You are such a goose... :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:59am:

Typical... why do you come here and waste everbody's time.

Brian has just proven that diversity doe not make us smarter by his overriding smiley face no argument comment! ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:08pm

kemal wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 7:59am:

Typical... why do you come here and waste everbody's time.

Brian has just proven that diversity doe not make us smarter by his overriding smiley face no argument comment! ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:09pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:19pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:56am:

Diversity…
Quote:

As always, Geoff, you really do have an inflated head. Grow up, please. "Correlation does not denote causation." QED. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:11pm

How can filling up your country with low IQed migrants with antiquated views make your country better and stronger?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:11pm:

How can filling up your country with low IQed migrants with antiquated views make your country better and stronger?

Not all migrants are "low IQed". Nor do they have "antiquated views". What happens is that your views and their views are challenged and you must justify them to them and they must justify their views to you. I know you prefer to sit in your armchair and pontificate all the time about how great you are, Hammer but in reality you're just one minor person in a minor group. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:19pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:56am:

Diversity…
Quote:

As always, Geoff, you really do have an inflated head. Grow up, please. "Correlation does not denote causation." QED. ::)

Is that you using ad hom... bwian are you being a TROLL.... is that you showing what a deluded idiot you are... lying again about what I say and quote...

I even explained it to you yet again bwian even though you tried lying about your educating me when you never did any such thing.

Just go away will you... you have nothing to add to any topic you post to except a bit of colour in your over frequently used image... :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:38pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Rubbish as usual... "can" and "might" does not equate to "will" or "does" bwian... The opinion of the author does not equal proof.
Fact is Diversity creates disharmony and social isolation... and bwian a workplace is not a society.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:44pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:46pm

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

No evidence of these empty slogans being true. Every country with 'great diversity' is being torn apart.

There is a load of evidence to the falsity of these idiotic slogans. No place is more diverse than Africa an Asia and they are riven with seething resentment and tribal tension.

Diversity among people who all accept a single, overriding value system (ie assimilate to a common core), maybe. Diversity of ASSIMILATED peoples - perhaps. Diversity of multicultural values - recipe for what is happening in the third world; division, squabbling, resentment, petty hostility.

Social solidarity is far, far more important than diversity of people, values.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Honky on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:43pm

Brian Ross is going to need a hell of a lot more diversity.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:30pm

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

"Social solidarity" exists in your imagination, Soren. No modern, liberal democracy has it, nor have they ever had it. Not even in Japan, one of the few single, monocultural societies in the world has there been "social solidarity" as any historian would point out. Not even in WWII was there "social solidarity" in the way you use the words. It is a myth which you Xenophobes and racists perpetuate without any evidence. All nations are made up of diverse social, political and cultural groups, all seeking superiority, control of the whole of society. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:31pm

... wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross is going to need a hell of a lot more diversity.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 9:57am

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 6:46pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 9:57am:

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:30pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

"Social diversity" exists in your imagination, Brian. No modern, liberal democracy has it, nor have they ever had it. Not even in Japan, one of the few single, monocultural societies in the world has there been "social diversity" as any historian would point out. Not even in WWII was there "social diversity" in the way you use the words. It is a myth which you Islamophiles and self-haters perpetuate without any evidence. All nations are made up of identifiable social, political and cultural groups, all seeking cohesion, bonds of common culture, language and solidarity of the whole of society.

There IS social cohesion, there is shared values, there is common culture, there is solidarity. There is us and them in EVERY society.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:25pm:

There IS social cohesion, there is shared values, there is common culture, there is solidarity. There is us and them in EVERY society.

Which is not determined by everybody having the same culture or being of the same "race" or anything else, Soren. As always, your views are shown to be foolish if one just looks at history. Every nation has been filled with disparate groups who have based their views on culture/"race"/politics/etc. All have been seeking supremacy over the others. Be they Danes or British or America or Japanese or Chinese or Indian or Australian. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Ajax on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 9:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

Recently met an Egyptian engineer and his wife.

He speaks 26 languages, his wife speaks 5.

Makes me feel like a trained monkey........... :-[

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 8:25am

Ajax wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 9:16pm:

[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1484652226/0#0 date=1484652226]How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

Recently met an Egyptian engineer and his wife.

He speaks 26 languages, his wife speaks 5.

Makes me feel like a trained monkey........... :-[/quote]

Does he speak double dutch when he's pissed?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 8:41am

[media][/media]
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

As always, your views are shown to be foolish

Soren, you really are very, very, bigoted, aren't you? Tsk, tsk. Islamophobe.[/highlight[highlight] You'd make a fine third world dictator in say, Africa.

[highlight]Did you or Soren or Herbie or Kernal or any of the other Islamophobes and racists who came to Australia benefit us?[/highlight]

And that makes you think you've made a valuable contribution to Australian

I just love the fantasy world you live in, Yadda. What is like inside your cupboard where you seem to live?

[highlight]Looks like your Islamophobia has blinded you again...
[/highlight]

[highlight]Typical Xenophobic bullshit which is used to justify the unjustifiable.[/highlight]

As always, Geoff, you really do have an inflated head.

As always, your views are shown to be foolish

Some of the ad hom used by Brian Ross so far in this thread.

Always saving the best till last.

Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 8:55am

Why the Decline of America’s Average IQ is a Cause for Concern

"A country’s population is like a cake – the quality of the individual ingredients will determine the quality of the overall product. From an IQ standpoint, when you introduce millions of lower IQ immigrants, you lower the overall IQ of the country. As we can see from Lynn’s data, the average IQs in the Latin American countries which send the most immigrants to the USA range between 79-87. So far, the number of immigrants from Middle Eastern countries has been small compared to the Latin American influx, but considering that the average IQs of these nations range from ~85-90, the plans by the US government to increase “refugee” resettlement bodes poorly for long-term American average IQ as well."

"The proportion of really intelligent individuals (IQ ≥ 130) in any society is actually fairly small. But when the average IQ is lower, this proportion drops off in a non-linear fashion. You can have a very large population, but if your average national IQ is low, you still won’t have many of these really high IQ people who move a society forward. Let’s look at a contrast between the USA (using the “official” µ=98, ~324,000,000 population) and India (µ=81, ~1, 293,000,000 population). When you plug in the numbers, the USA will have 1.64% of its population at IQ 130 or above, which translates to 5,313,600 individuals. India, on the other hand, will have 0.05% of its population at IQ 130 or above, which calculates to 646,500 individuals. Despite quadrupling the USA in population, India has just a little over 12% of the number of high IQ individuals as the USA (and a good share of them have moved to the USA, UK, or other Western nations)."

You really should read more Brian, By the way how is D&R going, been busy modding again?

P/S posted the links earlier, you must of missed them. Modding?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 2:49pm

This is Bwian, being smart...

This is bwian's most powerful argument...

This is bwian when he doesn't have a clue...

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:13pm

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:14pm

kemal wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 8:25am:

Ajax wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 9:16pm:

[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1484652226/0#0 date=1484652226]How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

Recently met an Egyptian engineer and his wife.

He speaks 26 languages, his wife speaks 5.

Makes me feel like a trained monkey........... :-[/quote]

Does he speak double dutch when he's pissed?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm

kemal wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 8:55am:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from? ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 6:37pm

Wassup bwian, should we all be posting crap like the article you seems to have so much belief in when in fact a kindergarten kid could drive a truck through the holes in it?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 6:38pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

More diversity (ie more tribalism), less social solidarity, trust, cohesion.

Greater diversity, greater strength, greater conversations, greater ideas. Simples, really, Soren. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 6:39pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Diversity doesn't make anyone smarter.
No IQS have gone up due to diversity have they? Where and when did that happen?

Come on bwian... try answering some questions for a change.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 6:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 8:56am:

Diversity…
Quote:

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 6:56pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Wassup bwian, should we all be posting crap like the article you seems to have so much belief in when in fact a kindergarten kid could drive a truck through the holes in it?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

No ad hom intended Brian but you really are thick.

The links were posted in this thread on the 31st January at 12.19 pm.

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Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:42am

This is Bwian, being smart...

This is bwian's most powerful argument...

This is bwian when he doesn't have a clue...

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 3:54pm

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 3:55pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:42am:

This is Bwian, being smart...

This is bwian's most powerful argument...

This is bwian when he doesn't have a clue...

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And this is Grendel being silly... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 6:57pm

NO NEED TO POST WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BWIAN... :D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:25pm:

There IS social cohesion, there is shared values, there is common culture, there is solidarity. There is us and them in EVERY society.

When you travel to China do you immediately, by setting foot there, 'feel" Chinese and are you accepted as Chinese??

Why not?

Why should it be any different with Australia or any other Western country?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:15pm

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:25pm:

There IS social cohesion, there is shared values, there is common culture, there is solidarity. There is us and them in EVERY society.

Ask Herbie, Soren. He might be able to tell you whether he feels Australian. Do you? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:16pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 6:57pm:

NO NEED TO POST WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BWIAN... :D :D :D :D :D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Right over your head, Grendel. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:15pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:25pm:

There IS social cohesion, there is shared values, there is common culture, there is solidarity. There is us and them in EVERY society.

Ask Herbie, Soren. He might be able to tell you whether he feels Australian. Do you? ::)

I asked you about cultural cohesion, not Herbie, you slimey dishonest grub.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:25pm

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:15pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 8:25pm:

There IS social cohesion, there is shared values, there is common culture, there is solidarity. There is us and them in EVERY society.

Ask Herbie, Soren. He might be able to tell you whether he feels Australian. Do you? ::)

I asked you about cultural cohesion, not Herbie, you slimey dishonest grub.

Oh, Soren. I never realised you cared about what I said... ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:26pm

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 11:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:26pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 12:32am

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 11:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:26pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 8:35am

]This is Bwian, being smart...

This is bwian's most powerful argument...

This is bwian when he doesn't have a clue...

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bwian why do you keep wasting our time?
Are you upset that stupid article just made you look dumber?
You can always clutch your Divinity Certificate and pray to Allah and the Kellogs company.
You need to do much better bwian... :D :D :D
This topic has been shot down in flames.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 3:59pm

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 8:55am

This is Bwian, being smart...

This is bwian's most powerful argument...

This is bwian when he doesn't have a clue...

Bwian, bwian, bwian...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bwian why do you keep wasting our time?
Are you upset that stupid article just made you look dumber?
You can always clutch your Divinity Certificate and pray to Allah and the Kellogs company.
You need to do much better bwian... :D :D :D
This topic has been shot down in flames.

I accept your surrender... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 4:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 12:32am:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 11:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:26pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Yes yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 5:43pm

kemal wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 12:32am:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 11:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:26pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:19pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 8:17pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:24am:

Brian Ross Quote "Nor do I continually resort to ad hominem debate"

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2017 at 5:17pm:

No links I can see, Kernal. Tsk, tsk. nothing shows up when I google your quotes. Where are they from?

Did you manage to find the links tut Tut, smiley face.

Yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Yes yes yes brian, but did you manage to find the links! Tut Tut smiley face.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 5:44pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 8:55am:

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 10:03pm

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 12:07am

Grendel wrote on Feb 5^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 10:30am

Let me summarise for you bwian... Diversity doesn't make you smarter, but it does cause social disharmony and isolation.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 10:30am:

Let me summarise for you bwian... Diversity doesn't make you smarter, but it does cause social disharmony and isolation.

Prove it. I can point to most humanity's history to where diversity has existed in our societies and nation states, Grendel.

First you've have to, of course, define your terms. Exactly what do you mean by "diversity", by "Social disharmony" and "isolation". Then you'll have to explain why those points apply today, yet through history they have not. I look forward to your response. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 10:30am:

Let me summarise for you bwian... Diversity doesn't make you smarter, but it does cause social disharmony and isolation.

The worlds largest social study in diversity already proved it. Our everyday lives prove it bwian, that state of the world proves it bwian.... isn't it time you faced reality and the facts and stopped playing with the fairies at the bottom of your garden?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 7:47pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 10:30am:

Let me summarise for you bwian... Diversity doesn't make you smarter, but it does cause social disharmony and isolation.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Oh dear look at that bwian has turned into all 3 of the not so wise monkeys.... :D :D :D :D :D
Your belief in that swiss cheese article bwian and the garbage opinion within says much about you, that you've proven over the years and every day here.

It's already been shot down in flames bwian... one day you'll learn its easier to face reality and admit when you are wrong. :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 9:27pm

You claim you wanted to debate. I offered you debate. You failed to debate. Where are your definitions, Geoff? Out the window like your argument? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 8:29am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

You claim you wanted to debate. I offered you debate. You failed to debate. Where are your definitions, Geoff? Out the window like your argument? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

You are such a disingenuous liar bwian.
I already refuted your article... you are a pathetic hypocrite and a liar... now run along no one cares to read your oft repeated lies or look at your YAWN emoticon...
BTW a YAWN is not an offer of debate nor is it debating. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:56pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 8:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:

You claim you wanted to debate. I offered you debate. You failed to debate. Where are your definitions, Geoff? Out the window like your argument? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Mindless, ad hominem debate, Geoff. Just pointless. I don't know why you bother, I really don't. Debates have rules and one of those is establishing definitions. You have failed to establish those definitions. Keep trying, it's amusing to watch.
::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 8:32pm

you and your so called article bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 11:57pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

you and your so called article bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:59am

you and your so called article bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 3:50pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:59am:

you and your so called article bwian...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 7:44am

So bwian, still nothing new or irrefutable to back up your idiotic claim eh... oh well it was a stupid argument in the first place... time to move on or disappear for a while till it all blows over eh.
Time to stop wasting everyone's time with your petty childish behaviour of posting yawns eh... we all know how to do that.

I'll repeat that for you... :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 7:45am

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:40pm

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:42pm

It's just like talking to a retarded kid.
Same reply no matter what you ask :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:46pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

It's just like talking to a retarded kid.
Same reply no matter what you ask :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:28am

Grendel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

It's just like talking to a retarded kid.
Same reply no matter what you ask :D :D :D

:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 3:53pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

It's just like talking to a retarded kid.
Same reply no matter what you ask :D :D :D

:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 7:25pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

It's just like talking to a retarded kid.
Same reply no matter what you ask :D :D :D

:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 10:53pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:28am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:42pm:

It's just like talking to a retarded kid.
Same reply no matter what you ask :D :D :D

:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 11:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

You prove it, Brian. You stareted with an unsubstantiated assertion.
I can point to most humanity's history to where diversity has led to destruction and discord.

First you've have to, of course, define your terms, Brian. Exactly what do you mean by "diversity", by "makes' (is it really causal??) and "smarter" (not cunning??). Then you'll have to explain why those points apply today as positives, yet through history they have not been. What's changed?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 1:00am

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 11:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

The original article that I linked to provided the basis for the start of this thread, Soren. It provides all the definitions that you want. Have you even read it? I suspect not. I wonder why? Afraid of it's message? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:05am

The original article is a farce bwian. It's full of holes and assumptions that can be brushed aside even by a kid from kindergarten. You apparently have swallowed it hook line and sinker because you are deluded and it fits your distorted version of life.

We've already shown that bwian. So lets move on unless you can finally do something that actually proves your belief :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:05am:

Demonstrate where it is full of "holes and assumptions", Geoff. If you can. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:40pm

I already have bwian... you need to stop posting stupid yawns and start reading what people actually say to you... or runaway... like you usually do.

Why don't you post where you think it actually proved diversity makes you smarter :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D All you've done so far is avoid doing that. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

How Diversity Makes Us Smarter, contrary to what many anti-Multiculturalists believe... ::)

The diversity peddlers do not want diversity of opinion, views. Diversity is code for suppressing a variety of views an opinions, it is a suppression of freedom of thought and expression.

Diversity is newspeak for intellectual, mental conformity.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1807&dat=19940415&id=n6McAAAAIBAJ&sjid=q28EAAAAIBAJ&pg=2062,6729559&hl=en

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:14pm

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:16pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Really? Lets see you list the article's paragraphs and then show where the "holes and assumptions" are, Geoff. Or is that too difficult for you? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 9:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Really? Lets see you list the article's paragraphs and then show where the "holes and assumptions" are, Geoff. Or is that too difficult for you? ::)

I already have bwian.... I suggest you reread the posts, because it seems to me we've been wasting our time with you crapping and posting stupid yawns all over the place. :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 9:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Really? Lets see you list the article's paragraphs and then show where the "holes and assumptions" are, Geoff. Or is that too difficult for you? ::)

It is a stupid article because it treats 'diversity' as anything other than everyone being exactly the same - which of course never happens, not even with clones.

SO the whole 'diversity' sloganeering is vacuous. Nothing is ever NOT 'diverse.

What 'diversity' is code for is particular identities that are more privileged than other identities - identity politics at its worst newspeak fatuousness.

And of course Brian is the loud spokesman for this fatheaded, shallow idiocy.

Safe places for women are anti-diversity, mardi gras is anti diversity, black lives matter is anti diversity, submission to Islam is heavily anti-diversity. All the big identity political groups are anti-diversity, thy want to privilege their own in-group.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:14pm

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Really? Lets see you list the article's paragraphs and then show where the "holes and assumptions" are, Geoff. Or is that too difficult for you? ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:25am

wassup? got nothing bwian?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 4:24pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:25am:

wassup? got nothing bwian?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 5:48pm

yep bwian has nothing.... ::) ::) ::)

You crap on about people not reading the article, because they disagree with it and you... but bwian apparently you don't read anyone's replies. :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:04pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

yep bwian has nothing.... ::) ::) ::)

You crap on about people not reading the article, because they disagree with it and you... but bwian apparently you don't read anyone's replies. :D

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:04pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

yep bwian has nothing.... ::) ::) ::)

You crap on about people not reading the article, because they disagree with it and you... but bwian apparently you don't read anyone's replies. :D

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Don't lie bwian... you've asked me to do things that I have already previously posted...

you avoid facts and argument you know shows you to be wrong... and all we get is stupid images...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:17pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:04pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

yep bwian has nothing.... ::) ::) ::)

You crap on about people not reading the article, because they disagree with it and you... but bwian apparently you don't read anyone's replies. :D

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Don't lie bwian... you've asked me to do things that I have already previously posted...

you avoid facts and argument you know shows you to be wrong... and all we get is stupid images...

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 12:33pm

WASSUP BWIAN? TRUTH HURTS? :D ;D :D ;D :D
Not enough oxygen getting to your brain bwian? ;D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:03pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

WASSUP BWIAN? TRUTH HURTS? :D ;D :D ;D :D
Not enough oxygen getting to your brain bwian? ;D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:31pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

WASSUP BWIAN? TRUTH HURTS? :D ;D :D ;D :D
Not enough oxygen getting to your brain bwian? ;D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:34pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

WASSUP BWIAN? TRUTH HURTS? :D ;D :D ;D :D
Not enough oxygen getting to your brain bwian? ;D

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:43pm

I think you need to actually start reading what people write first bwian... because all that constant yawning is totally boring and disrespectful... you want something I suggest you start by showing you have earned it and treat people as you would like to be treated.
Oh and stop lying about everything and everyone.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 7:05pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:13am

I already have bwian, many times... you just ignore them... you are a liar and a hypocrite.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

I already have bwian, many times... you just ignore them... you are a liar and a hypocrite.

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:28pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

I already have bwian, many times... you just ignore them... you are a liar and a hypocrite.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 7:29pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

I already have bwian, many times... you just ignore them... you are a liar and a hypocrite.

When you present an argument that is worth replying to, Geoff, you can be assured, I will do so. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

LOL you are full of shyte bwian.... everyone knows it.
The article you believe in is a pathetic travesty

I suggest you go back reread and address the points I have already made about it and stop wasting my time with your lies... :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:42pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

When you present an argument worth my taking notice of it, Geoff, I shall, you can be assured. Run along little man, run along. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 6:27pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

When you present an argument worth my taking notice of it, Geoff, I shall, you can be assured. Run along little man, run along. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Frank on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 10:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:42pm:

When you present an argument worth my taking notice of it, Geoff, I shall, you can be assured.

There are more Muslims from Australia with combat experience fighting with the Islamic State than there are in the entire Australian Defence Force. In the last two years, the Australian Islamic community has suffered a casualty rate more than 20 times higher than that borne by Australians during the whole of the Afghanistan war.

In fact, Stuart Robert told us on Monday that there were 96 Muslims in the military. Meanwhile, little over a week ago the Prime Minister told us that there were at least 90 Muslims fighting with the Islamic State. Another 30 had returned home as veterans and an additional 140 patriotic Australian Muslims were supporting terrorist groups in Australia. Of course, those are the numbers that we know. Considering that 100,000 pages of reporting didn’t tip anyone off to Man Haron Monis, it is entirely possible that there are one or two more.
http://bernardgaynor.com.au/stupid-is-as-stupid-does-the-australian-defence-force-ordered-to-recruit-muslims/

THERE are more Australian Muslims fighting in the Middle East for terrorist group Islamic State than there are Australian Muslim soldiers serving to stop the extremist organisation.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/more-aussie-muslims-fight-for-islamic-state-than-against-it/news-story/9fd387ba3520c087fadb6510a76d53a1

In suggesting that Muslims in Australia are subject to systemic tacit racial discrimination, key cause-and-effect facts are ignored.

Of the 20 organisations proscribed by the federal government as terrorist organisations with links to Australia, all 20 are Islamic. The most spectacular race crimes in Australia over the past three years, involving murder, attempted murder, threats to kill and plots to kill – the highest form of racial discrimination – involved Muslims planning or carrying out attacks against non-Muslims.

Overseas, Muslims are engaged in violence on a massive scale, mostly on religious and/or ethnic grounds.

More Muslims are fighting for Islamic State than are enlisted in the Australian Defence Force.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/paul-sheehan-the-victimology-myth-about-muslims-in-australia-sells-the-country-short-20151115-gkzdeq.html

Take note, Brian.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Attempt to reply intelligently for a change and stop with the lies and adhom already... YAWN.....

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

Soren, oh, dearie, dearie, me? Bernard Gaynor as a source? Really? The man is an anti-Gay, Islamophobic loon. Mmm, on second thoughts, he fits perfectly with your mind set, Soren. Are you really Bernard Gaynor? Should we call you, "Bernie", instead of "Soren"? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Attempt to reply intelligently for a change and stop with the lies and adhom already... YAWN.....

When you lead by example, Geoff, I might listen. Until then, just keep on with your ad hominem. It's so boring. ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Attempt to reply intelligently for a change and stop with the lies and adhom already... YAWN.....

When you lead by example, Geoff, I might listen. Until then, just keep on with your ad hominem. It's so boring. ::) ::)

I don't need to lead by example bwian... you are the hypocrite not me... you are the liar.... not me... you are the one who needs to stop... :D :D :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:23pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Attempt to reply intelligently for a change and stop with the lies and adhom already... YAWN.....

When you lead by example, Geoff, I might listen. Until then, just keep on with your ad hominem. It's so boring. ::) ::)

I don't need to lead by example bwian... you are the hypocrite not me... you are the liar.... not me... you are the one who needs to stop... :D :D :D

I fail to perceive any argument... ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 8:29am

Oh dear... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:25pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 8:29am:

Oh dear... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Tsk, tsk, tsk... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:26pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:30pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

cease the dishonest Trolling bwian... :D

Oh dear... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:38pm

Wassup.... gone on holidays left your chimp to fill in for you?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 12:49am

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Wassup.... gone on holidays left your chimp to fill in for you?

Oh dear... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 1:24pm

Hmmm, yes would seem to be the correct answer.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 5:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Oh dear Brian. Have you totally lost the plot, or just lost your meds, AGAIN?

You are a the most Christianophobic Hindu hating and anti Buddhist person I have ever had the misfortune to come across.

You Sir are the epiphany of Apophenia.

And a Bigot, as practised by muslims.

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm

kemal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2017 at 5:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Bump

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Brian Ross on Feb 23^rd, 2017 at 5:44pm

Oh dear... ::) ::)

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by kemal on Feb 23^rd, 2017 at 6:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2017 at 5:44pm:

Oh dear... ::) ::)

Do you really think you can get away with ad hom ALL the time Brian?

Title: Re: How Diversity Makes Us Smarter
Post by Grendel on Feb 23^rd, 2017 at 10:08pm

Apparently he does... and he does....