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Message started by mothra on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:15pm

Title: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by mothra on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:15pm
Dick Cheney Thinks Trump's Muslim Ban Is 'Against Everything We Stand For'


Even former Vice President Dick Cheney has denounced Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's plan to ban Muslim immigration in America.

Cheney, a decisive conservative himself, said Monday on The Hugh Hewitt Show that the ban "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."

"I think this whole notion that somehow we can just say no more Muslims, just ban a whole religion, goes against everything we stand for and believe in. I mean, religious freedom has been a very important part of our history and where we came from," Cheney said on a Monday appearance on the radio show. "A lot of people, my ancestors got here, because they were Puritans."

Cheney called Trump's plan a "mistaken notion" and said to solve refugee and immigration problems, the U.S. must examine why they need to leave their countries in the first place.

"It’s a serious problem to make certain that the people coming in don’t represent ISIS. You’ve got to set up a vetting process," Cheney said.

Listen to Cheney here. The comments on the ban start at 19:50.



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dick-cheney-donald-trump-muslim-ban-extreme

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by mothra on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:15pm
You know things are going south when you agree with Dck Cheney ...  :o

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by miketrees on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:31pm



No one told me there would be days like these!.

Mouthra sucking up to Dick.

Strange days indeed

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by issuevoter on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:43pm
Yeah, Dick Cheney, real sweet guy. Has a great track record with humanity and the environment.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by mothra on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:53pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:43pm:
Yeah, Dick Cheney, real sweet guy. Has a great track record with humanity and the environment.




Yeah, that's the point. Even Cheney is against this.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:06pm
I agree with Trump's idea of strictly vetting any muslim going to USA.

I disagree with his method.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by Gordon on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:21pm
I agree with his comments on safe zones.

Taking refugees helps a lucky few. With the same effort as what taking refugees takes you could create safe zones where large numbers could take shelter.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by Gordon on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:37pm
Ok I started listening before I noticed the date was Dec 2015.

Would love to hear Cheney's comments on banning people from failed states that don't have security services who can collaborate with US border security.




Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:48pm

mothra wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 4:15pm:
You know things are going south when you agree with Dck Cheney ...  :o


Agreed. It is hard to imagine a policy position ior comment where I could agree with Cheney...

bad news for Trump when a Tea-Party Republican thinks Trump has gone too far.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by longweekend58 on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:49pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:06pm:
I agree with Trump's idea of strictly vetting any muslim going to USA.

I disagree with his method.



You disagree with Trump?????


let the healing commence.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by issuevoter on Jan 30th, 2017 at 6:33am
The reason Dick Cheney is making anti-Trump statements is not because he has suddenly found his inner humanity, it is because Trump stated very clearly that the Bush-Cheney policies were stupid and contributed to the problems the US now faces. So cut the crap about Cheney's good sense.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by cods on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:22am

Gordon wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 5:37pm:
Ok I started listening before I noticed the date was Dec 2015.


a lot of water has flown under the bridge since then. ;) ;)


Would love to hear Cheney's comments on banning people from failed states that don't have security services who can collaborate with US border security.

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maybe we should forget about these..

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by cods on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:23am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3703884/Timeline-terror-deadly-attacks-West-12-months.html

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Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by AiA on Jan 30th, 2017 at 7:42am
Trump is doing what he said he would do ...

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:35am
Cheney is a mass murderer and has no moral authority on anything.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 30th, 2017 at 11:36am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:35am:
Cheney is a mass murderer and has no moral authority on anything.


That's the point: even Cheney is against Trump.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by Fireball on Jan 30th, 2017 at 11:52am
In 2011, Nobama banned Iraqis from entering USA for SIX MONTHS, Nobody said a word.


Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by Culture Warrior on Jan 30th, 2017 at 12:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 11:36am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:35am:
Cheney is a mass murderer and has no moral authority on anything.


That's the point: even Cheney is against Trump.


Cheney's view has as much authority as yours: zilch.

Title: Re: Dick Cheney 'Against Everything We Stand For'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Jan 30th, 2017 at 12:05pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 11:52am:
In 2011, Nobama banned Iraqis from entering USA for SIX MONTHS, Nobody said a word.

Knew this one would come up more sooner than later... And, yes, people did say things...

First, Obama responded to an actual threat - the discovery that two Iraqi refugees has been implicated in bomb-making in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and also impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat.

Second, Obama did not announce there was a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano's answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had been slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it was their policy to halt all applications. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval.

Third, Obama's policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling the United States. Trump's policy is much more sweeping.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-refugee-policy-fact-check-2011-20170129-story.html

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