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https://www.change.org/p/petition-the-quran-to-be-removed-from-sale-in-australia-due-to-section-18c-violations?recruiter=59932551&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-no_msg


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The Quran of Islam is on clear violation of Section 18C  of the Racial Discrimination Act which makes it unlawful for to do an act that is reasonably likely to “offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” someone because of their race or ethnicity. Quotes from this "Holy Book" include: Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah'). Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Quran (2.62) Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. Quran (2.83) And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside. Quran (2.88) And they say: Our hearts are covered. Nay, Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief; so little it is that they believe. Quran (2.98) Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and Jibreel and Meekaeel, so surely Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers. Quran (2.111) And they say: None sh all enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful. Quran (2.113) And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ. Quran (5:51) - O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people. Quran (5:54) - O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah ; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. ***Quran (5:51) has caused stern consternation in Indonesia in the last couple of months!***

"Race."  "Ethnicity."

I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

re the content of the OP....


It is good, that such a petition will bring more attention to what the Koran contains, BUT I CERTAINLY HOPE, myself, that the Koran is NOT banned or prohibited, here, in Australia.

I want people to read it !!!!!

To understand, what it promotes !



What i would ban, if i had the power, was the open practice of ISLAM, in Australia, because of what ISLAM inculcates into the psyche of the moslem.

And i would close [ban] every and all mosques, here, in Australia.

.....i'm just dreaming.




Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1486642865/2#2

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IMO, Michael Flynn [President Trump’s national security adviser] and Donald Trump, need to 'draw a line in the sand' ! The new US administration needs to put into the public arena, 1/ a question and, 2/ a public declaration,            such as this; As a citizen of this United States, are you willing to excuse and to defend a hostile and malevolent entity [ISLAM], which wants to weaken and destroy our nation ? If you are, then you are choosing to align yourself with the enemies of this United States of America. And if you are willing to do that, then you are choosing to identify yourself too, as an enemy of the people of this United States of America.

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485687392/16#16

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WHAT THE 'OFFENSIVE' AMERICAN SAID....... [quote] ......"In order to protect Americans, we must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward our country and its founding principles. We cannot, and should not, admit into our country those who do not support the U.S. Constitution, or those who would place violent religious edicts over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry and hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice other religions) or those who would oppress members of one race, one gender, or sexual orientation."

- President Donald Trump      January, 2017




What i say......


ISLAM is a hostile and alien culture,       which wants to destroy Australia as we know it.

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1484778259/3#3

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Moslems are not Australians. Even moslems living in Australia, who have secured Australian citizenship, are not Australians. Why so ? The allegiance and loyalty of the moslem, is to ISLAM exclusively. Any moslem who denies that,         is a FILTHY STINKING, LYING, DECEITFUL moslem. Study declared ISLAMIC doctrine. It confirms that the loyalty of the moslem must always be to ISLAM, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd!

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"Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Koran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope."

- Hassan el Banna - Founder of The Muslim Brotherhood




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Our moslem 'ally' in Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan said these things......

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Google;
Erdogan, "Sovereignty Belongs Unconditionally and Always To Allah"


Google;
Erdogan, "One Cannot Be a Muslim, and Secular"


Google;
Erdogan, The Mosques are our Barracks, the Domes our helmets, the Minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers



Yadda says......

The president of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan is an ISLAMIST who is posing as a democratic politician.



Yaddas TRUTH.....

Moslems will ALWAYS speak truthfully with non-moslems, except when it is not in their own interests to do so.

Moslems will ALWAYS fulfill their undertakings/agreements with non-moslems, except when it is not in their own interests to do so.


QUESTION;
What differentiates the character of the moslem, from the character of the career politician of the West ???

That, is a very good question.   !!!

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).

My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers.

But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars.

Interesting, isn't it.


WHEREAS.....
Moslems are encouraged to force people they come across, to either worship Allah [convert], or accept slavery, and if they refuse both of those options,       .....ISLAM teaches moslems that it is completely lawful for the moslem to kill those disbelievers.

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, commanded his judges over his people to kill;
killers,
covenant breakers,
and liars [who through their lies, sought to cause others to come to harm].



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God's law mandates that we love all others, as we love our own self.

Even Old Testament law says this.....

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself




God's laws in the Old Testament principally mandate that those who follow him, make a distinction [discriminate] between the good and the wicked.

And 'discriminate' between good persons and wicked persons.

And reject and censure what is wicked and evil.



e.g.
The ancient Hebrews - HAD NO SANCTION FROM THEIR GOD TO MURDER THOSE WHO WERE NOT HEBREWS - because they were not Hebrews.

AGAIN, the law of the ancient Hebrews [given by their God],
.....prohibited the ancient Hebrews from murdering anyone because they were not Hebrews.



Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Leviticus 25:47-49
[these verses clearly speak of [and reveal that it was entirely 'lawful'] for Hebrews [themselves] to become bond servants [slaves], to prosperous strangers living among the Hebrews.]

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 11:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it.

I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian, your bigoted Christianophobia is showing again. Tut Tut smiley face.

FD are you now saying its racist to attack people on the basis of their beliefs?

Or perhaps you started this thread to point out the hypocricy of these Islamophobes - who castigate muslim apologists for calling criticism of Islamic belief 'racist' - but at the same time branding text that condemns people for their beliefs as somehow racist?


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As to those who reject faith

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Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers

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And they say: Our hearts are covered. Nay, Allah has cursed them on account of their unbelief

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O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Dr of Divinity.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You are kidding right? :D

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 1:10am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it. I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence.

That is because you are creepy and unreasonable person,        who turns your feelings of being 'offended' into a weapon, a stick,           with which you seek to beat and to harm innocent people.



Brian,

Let me explain something to you.....

Those Torah laws in the Old Testament applied to the children of Israel [the Hebrews] of that time.    ....they applied in a time 3,400 years ago.

The children of Israel had entered into a covenant with the God, their God, who had brought them out of Egypt and out of bondage [slavery] to the Egyptians.

Exodus 19:8
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do.....


e.g.
The Old Testament religious laws that applied to the children of Israel of that time called upon the people, of the children of Israel, of that time, to keep the sabbath of the LORD, holy.


Exodus 31:14
Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15  Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.


And, that law, applied to EVERYONE who was living within the land of Israel.

It was a religious law that the children of Israel agreed to obey, because it was a part of their covenant with their God.




Brian,

There is no compunction upon Jews living in Australia today, to kill anyone who does not keep God's sabbath day holy.

Jews living in Australia obey the laws of Australia.

Why so ?

Because Jews living in Australia recognise that they are NOT living in ancient Israel.

But Jews who are living here in Australia, are living in the world.

And Jews who are living here in Australia, understand that they must obey the local laws of Australia.

Jews living in Australia, may also, themselves, choose to keep God's sabbath day holy.

But Jews living in Australia do not kill Australians because Australians do not keep the sabbath day holy.



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WHEREAS...

The laws of ISLAM, apply forever.

And there is no exemption from the laws of ISLAM, for the moslem,
except that the moslem is allowed [by ISLAM] to pretend that the laws of ISLAM have no effect, in places where the moslem has no power to impose those laws.

as per......

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July 28, 2006 Islamic Dictionary for Infidels ...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google



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ARGUMENT;

Every moslem is a latent terrorist and latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac.

How so [logically] ?



Because, according to ISLAMIC doctrine and law......

Google;
The world is divided into the House of Islam and the House of War


And, the moslem who is living in Australia, regards EVERY disbeliever [i.e. every Australian] as a 'Harbi'.

And what is a 'Harbi' ?



Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war", a non-moslem, WHO DOES NOT LIVE UNDER MOSLEM RULE.

".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi


A Harbi, is an enemy of Allah.


n.b.
".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."


Google,
"A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 1:10am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it. I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Nice cherry picking bwian...  did the point evade you or is your lw prog mindset so offended you are having a mindless conniption.
Btw Dr Divinity the Old testament is not the New Testament is it and christs teachings are in the new testament, not in the history of the jews.

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Btw Dr Divinity the Old testament is not the New Testament is it and christs teachings are in the new testament, not in the history of the jews.

Damn straight there Grendel.  Jesus told us that the word of God (himself......'I am the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost') as set out in the Old Testament was just bullshit.......umm........'his' bullshit.

:D

Aussie wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:09pm:

Quote: Btw Dr Divinity the Old testament is not the New Testament is it and christs teachings are in the new testament, not in the history of the jews. Damn straight there Grendel.  Jesus told us that the word of God (himself......'I am the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost') as set out in the Old Testament was just bullshit.......umm........'his' bullshit. :D

Hmmm  best you just stay quiet if your English is as bad as your Theology and Religious studies.

Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 1:10am: Yadda wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it. I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence. That is because you are creepy and unreasonable person,  who turns your feelings of being 'offended' into a weapon, a stick,  with which you seek to beat and to harm innocent people.

Do you believe that anybody who offends, under 18c when they insult or offend me, is "innocent" simply because they have attacked Muslims?  Tsk, tsk, and there I was, believing that you might have at least one shred of decency left in your cupboard.   Really, Yadda, you have offended me with your continual attacks on innocent people simply because they worship differently to you.   Next you'll be attack red-headed people or people who break their hard-boiled eggs at the end, other to yourself.   Are you a "big-endian" or a "little-endian"?   Tsk, tsk, tsk.    ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 1:10am: Yadda wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it. I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::) Nice cherry picking bwian...  did the point evade you or is your lw prog mindset so offended you are having a mindless conniption. Btw Dr Divinity the Old testament is not the New Testament is it and christs teachings are in the new testament, not in the history of the jews.

Are you suggesting that the Old Testament has been discarded completely by Christians, Geoff?  Really?

The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?    Indeed, ask any qualified theologian and they will tell you that the Old Testament is of great importance to the Christian religion as it forms the basis on which it is built.   The Old Testament contains the history of the Jewish people but it also contains the moral lessons by which they lived and ruled their lives and by which Christians rule theirs.   To discard it the way Christians have in this forums is IMHO almost blasphemy and is wrong.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:45pm:

The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?

To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament.

Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise?

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise?

Surely not...  he's a Dr of Divinity... :D :D :D
Bwian knows I know what I'm talking about he just like making things up and telling people that's what I think....
Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.......... :D
You are a most dishonest Dr of Divinity bwian...  have you learned nothing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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The Koran vs 18c

About a sensible a non event as Ducks V Chickens.

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise?

The Old Testament forms the basis on which the New Testament was created, Frank.  Thanks for showing what I am saying is true...   ::)

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 3:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise? Surely not...  he's a Dr of Divinity... :D :D :D Bwian knows I know what I'm talking about he just like making things up and telling people that's what I think.... Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.......... :D You are a most dishonest Dr of Divinity bwian...  have you learned nothing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:33pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:13pm: Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 3:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise? Surely not...  he's a Dr of Divinity... :D :D :D Bwian knows I know what I'm talking about he just like making things up and telling people that's what I think.... Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.......... :D You are a most dishonest Dr of Divinity bwian...  have you learned nothing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Well bwian when are you going to apologise for all those lies you've been spreading about me and what I think...  as a mindreader you know you totally suck :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
As a liar and a hypocrite though you are right up there with the best. ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 3:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise? The Old Testament forms the basis on which the New Testament was created, Frank.  Thanks for showing what I am saying is true...   ::)

BS, Brian. You said they are of equal importance.
You lied or you are an idiot. In your case both, effortlessly. Doctor of Divinity, eh?

You wish you could be shallow, Brian, but even that is beyond you? You are witless, confused, uneducated, deluded and a really bad liar.

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You said they are of equal importance.

What do you say Soren?

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 12:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 1:10am: Yadda wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it. I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence. That is because you are creepy and unreasonable person,  who turns your feelings of being 'offended' into a weapon, a stick,  with which you seek to beat and to harm innocent people. Do you believe that anybody who offends, under 18c when they insult or offend me, is "innocent" simply because they have attacked Muslims?  Tsk, tsk, and there I was, believing that you might have at least one shred of decency left in your cupboard. Really, Yadda, you have offended me with your continual attacks on innocent people simply because they worship differently to you. Next you'll be attack red-headed people or people who break their hard-boiled eggs at the end, other to yourself.   Are you a "big-endian" or a "little-endian"?   Tsk, tsk, tsk.    ::) ::)

Brian,

It is very disingenuous for you to infer that i have no reason or cause,         for my disgust and repulsion towards moslems and the moslem community in Australia.

And it is disingenuous for you to suggest that you are at loss to understand my feelings towards moslems and the moslem community in Australia,       when i have on many occasions [here on OzPol] explained at length, why i do feel that my animosity towards moslems and the moslem community in Australia, is justified.



Once again, i will reiterate that so-called 'innocent' moslems [who live among us],         are seeking to deceive us [and that those 'innocent' moslems seek to conceal a malevolent intent towards us], whenever they, those so-called 'innocent' moslems, continue to insist that ISLAM instructs no malice towards those who are not moslems.

And when they, moslems, insist that ISLAM is a peaceful and virtuous faith.

All moslems [who live among us], in making such demonstrably false assertions,         prove that they, those so-called 'innocent' moslems, are all FILTHY STINKING, LYING, DECEITFUL moslems.




Evidence of the violent and malevolent intent which mainstream ISLAM mandates towards those who are not moslems,
BECAUSE THEY/WE ARE NOT MOSLEMS,           is presented once again here [citing ISLAM's most authoritative 'holy' text] -------- >

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1486642865/8#8



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As to red-headed people or to hard-boiled eggs, i bear them no malice.

And i have no reason to.

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:33pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:13pm: Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 3:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise? Surely not...  he's a Dr of Divinity... :D :D :D Bwian knows I know what I'm talking about he just like making things up and telling people that's what I think.... Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk.......... :D You are a most dishonest Dr of Divinity bwian...  have you learned nothing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Well bwian when are you going to apologise for all those lies you've been spreading about me and what I think...  as a mindreader you know you totally suck :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D As a liar and a hypocrite though you are right up there with the best. ::) ::) ::)

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Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 9:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 4:31pm: Frank wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 3:54pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:45pm: The Bible contains both the Old Testament and the New Testament.  Obviously, to most Christians, the teachings of the Old Testament are of equal importance to their religion, why else include it in their Holy Book?  To show how the New Testament is a fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament. Are you really pretending to be THAT thick that you didn't realise? The Old Testament forms the basis on which the New Testament was created, Frank.  Thanks for showing what I am saying is true...   ::) BS, Brian. You said they are of equal importance. You lied or you are an idiot. In your case both, effortlessly. Doctor of Divinity, eh? You wish you could be shallow, Brian, but even that is beyond you? You are witless, confused, uneducated, deluded and a really bad liar.

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Yadda wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 10:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:40pm: Yadda wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 12:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 1:10am: Yadda wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act? Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new). My holy book [the Old Testament part] said that God's people were NOT allowed to kill people who were not his followers/believers. But my holy book [the Old Testament part] DID SAY, DID SAY, DID SAY, say that God's people WERE ALLOWED to kill people who were killers, covenant breakers, and liars. Interesting, isn't it. I find that deeply offensive, Yadda.  I think I might raise a complaint with the Human Rights Commission under Section 18c as a consequence. That is because you are creepy and unreasonable person,  who turns your feelings of being 'offended' into a weapon, a stick,  with which you seek to beat and to harm innocent people. Do you believe that anybody who offends, under 18c when they insult or offend me, is "innocent" simply because they have attacked Muslims?  Tsk, tsk, and there I was, believing that you might have at least one shred of decency left in your cupboard. Really, Yadda, you have offended me with your continual attacks on innocent people simply because they worship differently to you. Next you'll be attack red-headed people or people who break their hard-boiled eggs at the end, other to yourself.   Are you a "big-endian" or a "little-endian"?   Tsk, tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) Brian, It is very disingenuous for you to infer that i have no reason or cause,         for my disgust and repulsion towards moslems and the moslem community in Australia.

Yadda, I don't care what you feel or believe.  You have offended me and I am raising a complaint under section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act.   You will be summonsed to appear before the Human Rights Commission.   You will have to defend your remarks after they have been examined.   


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And it is disingenuous for you to suggest that you are at loss to understand my feelings towards moslems and the moslem community in Australia,       when i have on many occasions [here on OzPol] explained at length, why i do feel that my animosity towards moslems and the moslem community in Australia, is justified.

You may feel it is but do I?  Nope.   I am offended.   We shall have to see what the Human Rights Commission has to say on the topic.   Hopefully you will be held responsible for your comments and claims about Muslims.   They are disgusting comments.  They deserve for you to be punished under the law.


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Once again, i will reiterate that so-called 'innocent' moslems [who live among us],  are seeking to deceive us [and that those 'innocent' moslems seek to conceal a malevolent intent towards us], whenever they, those so-called 'innocent' moslems, continue to insist that ISLAM instructs no malice towards those who are not moslems.

The only sinister intent I detect is yours, Yadda.   You have decided to insult and offend my friends who are Muslims.   I believe you need to be held responsible for your comments.


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And when they, moslems, insist that ISLAM is a peaceful and virtuous faith.

Perhaps because they feel it is?   What right do you to doubt their beliefs, Yadda?  What right do you have to insult them and offend me?


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All moslems [who live among us], in making such demonstrably false assertions,  prove that they, those so-called 'innocent' moslems, are all FILTHY STINKING, LYING, DECEITFUL moslems.

Just keep your comments up, Yadda.  Your digging your own grave with every post, you realise?  Are you hoping to reach China?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)


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Evidence of the violent and malevolent intent which mainstream ISLAM mandates towards those who are not moslems,  BECAUSE THEY/WE ARE NOT MOSLEMS, is presented once again here [citing ISLAM's most authoritative 'holy' text] -------- > http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1486642865/8#8 As to red-headed people or to hard-boiled eggs, i bear them no malice. And i have no reason to.

We only have your word on that and considering the offence you have thus caused to innocent Muslims who's only "crime" is to worship differently to you, I think red-heads and hard-boiled eggs should be careful in future.  If you have your way, one day you'll run out of Muslims and who'll be the next on your target list?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

When doing/saying something that causes someone to be offended is a problem, we have lost the plot. You mean I hurt your feelings? Diddums.

Setanta wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 11:55pm:

When doing/saying something that causes someone to be offended is a problem, we have lost the plot. You mean I hurt your feelings? Diddums.

Setanta,

I do not have a problem with freedom of speech, or with the right of others, in what they may want to express.

I do not have a problem with others wanting to publicly express an argument on any particular issue.

......WITH ONE EXCEPTION,             and that is when people explicitly and publicly, will engage in inciting violence and/or murder against others.

IMO, this should be regarded as a very, very serious crime.



For an example of what i am talking about, see the image, in this post.....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485479651/19#19



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IMO, these Koran verses are also inciting violence and/or murder.

And in reading those Koran verses, there is no explanation needed, as to the reason that ISLAM/Allah gives, for justifying such violence.

[QUESTION; Why isn't the contents of the Koran,        openly recognised and acknowledged, in Australia,          as inciting hatred and violence against those who are not moslems ??? ]

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"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Fight against, Allah's enemies.....
"Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask thee for no exemption from fighting...And Allah knoweth well those who do their duty."
Koran 9.44


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Koran 9.111

Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian.

You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Brian should leave Ozpolitic.
He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

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Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:00am: Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies... Brian should leave Ozpolitic. He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

Do I?  I've only claim one person's viewpoint offends me.  Bobby, how does that equate to "other view points"?   ::)

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 8:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:00am: Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies...

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Wassup bwian?

SHOTDOWN AGAIN...
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Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:04am:

Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg

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Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

As it so happens, as a Christian .... I know that the New Testament of the Holy Bible has no issue with Section 18c.

The Koran on the other hand.....

So go tsk tsk yourself all you like.

You've now shown me (in here and in another topic under your "Brian" nic).....that you haven't a clue about much at all when it comes to religion.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:04am: Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

You were told to cease using that emoticon by a GMod.

Why?

Because you're spammng a number of topics with it.

And you're doing it with a number of nics.

It's past boring....and blaringly obvious that you have nothing. Hence the emoticon spamming!

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:04am: Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

Tsk tsk tsk....  I just reply to your ad hom bwian... :D :D :D :D :D

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::) As it so happens, as a Christian .... I know that the New Testament of the Holy Bible has no issue with Section 18c. The Koran on the other hand..... So go tsk tsk yourself all you like. You've now shown me (in here and in another topic under your "Brian" nic).....that you haven't a clue about much at all when it comes to religion.

Ah, but if you knew anything about Religion, Lisa you would know that The Bible consists of more than just the New Testament...  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 4:16pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:04am: Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) You were told to cease using that emoticon by a GMod. Why? Because you're spammng a number of topics with it. And you're doing it with a number of nics. It's past boring....and blaringly obvious that you have nothing. Hence the emoticon spamming!

I am not doing anything except replying as I deem it appropriate to what my opponents are saying, Lisa and I am only doing it with my own "nic" as you call it.   If you have evidence that I am doing otherwise, please present it or piss off.

I note you have not provided the proof I asked for earlier.  I'll take it that you cannot find any evidence to support your outlandish lies.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 4:16pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:04am: Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) Tsk tsk tsk....  I just reply to your ad hom bwian... :D :D :D :D :D

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Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff...   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 4:43pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::) As it so happens, as a Christian .... I know that the New Testament of the Holy Bible has no issue with Section 18c. The Koran on the other hand..... So go tsk tsk yourself all you like. You've now shown me (in here and in another topic under your "Brian" nic).....that you haven't a clue about much at all when it comes to religion. Ah, but if you knew anything about Religion, Lisa you would know that The Bible consists of more than just the New Testament...  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Yeah...you got me.

I had no idea that the Old Testament existed.

Thanks for letting me know "Brian".

Idiot!

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 4:16pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:04am: Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) Tsk tsk tsk....  I just reply to your ad hom bwian... :D :D :D :D :D http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff...   ::)

Still spamming topics with that emoticon eh?

At some stage, you'll realize it only betrays the fact that you've got nothing/you've lost the argument.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:00am: Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies... Brian should leave Ozpolitic. He clearly gets offended too much with other view points.

He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:05am: Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:00am: Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies... Brian should leave Ozpolitic. He clearly gets offended too much with other view points. He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

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You ain't see nothing Jones.  Have you met Adamant, Kemal and jeez recently? 

Aussie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:05am: Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:00am: Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies... Brian should leave Ozpolitic. He clearly gets offended too much with other view points. He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics. http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Holidays/Saint_Patricks_Day/Laughing_hard.gif You ain't see nothing Jones.  Have you met Adamant, Kemal and jeez recently?

I've seen that Kemal nic around.

I've not seen the other 2.

Why do you ask?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:05am: Grendel wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 9:00am: Well there you have it....  the reason 18C needs to be changed is to protect us from idiots like bwian. You offend me every day bwian with your insults and lies... Brian should leave Ozpolitic. He clearly gets offended too much with other view points. He also clearly gets confused too much with his other multi nics.

What other "nics" have I used, Lisa?   Please present your evidence.  Otherwise, piss off with your innuendo.  I have only ever used the one account on this forum, this one - Brian Ross...   ::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 7:14pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 4:43pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 10:57pm: I wonder how well The Bible would go against Section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act?  Not well, I suspect, considering what it has to say in The Old Testament (and to a lesser extent, the new).  Tsk, tsk.   ::) As it so happens, as a Christian .... I know that the New Testament of the Holy Bible has no issue with Section 18c. The Koran on the other hand..... So go tsk tsk yourself all you like. You've now shown me (in here and in another topic under your "Brian" nic).....that you haven't a clue about much at all when it comes to religion. Ah, but if you knew anything about Religion, Lisa you would know that The Bible consists of more than just the New Testament...  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Yeah...you got me. I had no idea that the Old Testament existed. Thanks for letting me know "Brian". Idiot!

You were the one that only mentioned one of the two Testaments, Lisa.  Not me.   I've always made sure that it's obvious I know about the Old Testament as well as the New.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13^th, 2017 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 7:17pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 4:16pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 8:04am: Wassup bwian? SHOTDOWN AGAIN... https://bshistorian.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/shot-down.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff with your endless ad hominem debate.  Tsk, tsk.  ::) Tsk tsk tsk....  I just reply to your ad hom bwian... :D :D :D :D :D http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh dear, wasting our time yet again, Geoff...   ::) Still spamming topics with that emoticon eh? At some stage, you'll realize it only betrays the fact that you've got nothing/you've lost the argument.

Oh, dear, another who is under the delusion that Geoff (Grendel) is offering an argument.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::)

Grendel wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::)

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Tough, Geoff.  You can call yourself what you like.  I will call you by the name I first encountered you under.   People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect...   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:04pm: Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Tough, Geoff.  You can call yourself what you like.  I will call you by the name I first encountered you under. People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect...   ::) ::)

So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow  ?

Yes ?

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:55pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:04pm: Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Tough, Geoff.  You can call yourself what you like.  I will call you by the name I first encountered you under. People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect...   ::) ::) So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow  ? Yes ?

Why?  Is "Yadda" your real name?   :o

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 12:15am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:55pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:04pm: Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Tough, Geoff.  You can call yourself what you like.  I will call you by the name I first encountered you under. People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect...   ::) ::) So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow  ? Yes ? Why?  Is "Yadda" your real name?   :o

#1
If i posted my RL name here, i would then have to deal with attempts on my life, by persons who would justify those attempts on my life, by claiming that i had offended their religion/philosophy [i.e. as a blasphemer against their true faith].

But the fact that i would then have to deal with threats/attempts on my life, could not, i would argue, change my opinions.        ['opinions', once 'grasped' hold of, tend to be deeply held]

Revealing my RL name would not 'demonstrate' a 'principled' position,       rather it would demonstrate, imo, irrationality,          because the act of revealing my RL name would immeasurably 'complicate' my life/existence.

And if one of your friends actually succeeded in finding me, and in killing me, would that action/'success', demonstrate that his opinion was more valid or more 'principled', than my own opinion ?





#2
Laying all of the above to one side......
I would rather just express my opinions/arguments in a public forum such as this one,       WHERE ANYONE WHO HAD A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT AGAINST WHAT I HAD EXPRESSED,      could engage with me, and use reason and the superiority of their own position/argument, to defeat me, and to demonstrate to everyone on this public forum, how mistaken/in error, my own position/opinions were.


"And if the detractors [of certain comments i have made] have a legitimate complaint, then let them air it [IN THE FORUM], and have their complaint tested in debate!
.....FOR ALL TO SEE."




Brian, as much as you may want #1 to occur.

Myself, i would simply like to be able to express what i believe, freely,          and be free to demonstrate my foolishness, to the whole world.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485568203/1#1

Yadda wrote on Feb 14^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:55pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:04pm: Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Tough, Geoff.  You can call yourself what you like.  I will call you by the name I first encountered you under. People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect...   ::) ::) So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow  ? Yes ?

Bwian respects no one except bwian... 

Perhaps bwian is fortunate he is a LW Prog and Conservatives don't do things like Fraudulently impersonate him on the Net... or stalk him to his job or residence.

No bwian only respects bwian.

Yadda wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 1:49am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 12:15am: Yadda wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:55pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:04pm: Oh but I do bwian...  and do try to stick with my site id please otherwise you might find yourself breaking one of fd's rules.  How many times have you tried that one on eh... ::) http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Tough, Geoff.  You can call yourself what you like.  I will call you by the name I first encountered you under. People who are too frightened to stand by their opinions don't deserve any respect...   ::) ::) So Brian, i have reason to hope that you will respect me in the morning, perhaps tomorrow  ? Yes ? Why?  Is "Yadda" your real name?   :o #1 If i posted my RL name here, i would then have to deal with attempts on my life, by persons who would justify those attempts on my life, by claiming that i had offended their religion/philosophy [i.e. as a blasphemer against their true faith]. But the fact that i would then have to deal with threats/attempts on my life, could not, i would argue, change my opinions.        ['opinions', once 'grasped' hold of, tend to be deeply held] Revealing my RL name would not 'demonstrate' a 'principled' position,       rather it would demonstrate, imo, irrationality,          because the act of revealing my RL name would immeasurably 'complicate' my life/existence. And if one of your friends actually succeeded in finding me, and in killing me, would that action/'success', demonstrate that his opinion was more valid or more 'principled', than my own opinion ? #2 Laying all of the above to one side...... I would rather just express my opinions/arguments in a public forum such as this one,       WHERE ANYONE WHO HAD A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT AGAINST WHAT I HAD EXPRESSED,      could engage with me, and use reason and the superiority of their own position/argument, to defeat me, and to demonstrate to everyone on this public forum, how mistaken/in error, my own position/opinions were. "And if the detractors [of certain comments i have made] have a legitimate complaint, then let them air it [IN THE FORUM], and have their complaint tested in debate! .....FOR ALL TO SEE." Brian, as much as you may want #1 to occur. Myself, i would simply like to be able to express what i believe, freely,          and be free to demonstrate my foolishness, to the whole world. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485568203/1#1

Yadda, if you seek to hide yourself behind a pseudonym then you cannot claim that pseudonym is your real name.   I doubt anybody would seek you out to hurt you.  I have been online now for over 25 years, always using my real name/login.   I have upset a lot of people in that time and guess what, I am still alive, uncrippled and still upsetting people.

Come out of your cupboard.  It will do you good.  Face the light.  Indeed, see the light!

You might find that what you're saying/doing is all just an act.  A very poorly received one.

Of course, you can continue to hide if you want but no, I won't respect you any more for it...  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Told you... :D ;D :D

Grendel wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:22pm:

Told you... :D ;D :D

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Still wasting our time, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk...   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:03pm:

Yadda, if you seek to hide yourself behind a pseudonym then you cannot claim that pseudonym is your real name. I doubt anybody would seek you out to hurt you. I have been online now for over 25 years, always using my real name/login.   I have upset a lot of people in that time and guess what, I am still alive, uncrippled and still upsetting people. Come out of your cupboard.  It will do you good.  Face the light.  Indeed, see the light!

LOL


Brian,

Your assessment, as to my continued personal safety [should i reveal my RL identity], imo, defies reason.

Your passing assurance [as to our general safety in the world], imo, blatantly ignores or denies, the rather obvious nature and character, of the follower of ISLAM,      as a type.

Deceitful,       intimidatory,      violent.


Yadda said/argued.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421614428/709#709

Quote:

The entire history of ISLAM attests to the fact that the use of terror [by moslems] has served the interests of moslems/ISLAM well. Mohammed himself attested to that fact [that terrorism works] in the Hadith. Moslems have come to understand [through previous experience], that if they threaten violence against a group,     very often the mere threat of their violence [intimidation], will have an effect which is to the advantage of 'the moslem'. This consequence occurs, because those who have been threatened [by 'the moslem'] will often see no harm in appeasing 'the moslem' in his demands, in order to avoid the other 'consequences' of displeasing him. .... freedom of speech = = the freedom to express ideas and concepts. But, moslems reject all ideas and concepts which they [moslems] deem to be un-ISLAMIC in their basis, OR, ideas and concepts which they [moslems] deem to threaten the integrity of the ideas and concepts which ISLAM itself, promotes in the world. And in that, we come back to a necessary recognition by us, of the wholly supremacist [fascist] nature of ISLAM. i.e. [Wherever moslems have become a significantly large minority, within a larger non-moslem host community].... ISLAM takes to itself, the 'divine' right to oppose and prohibit the broadcasting of any ideas and concepts which do not actively promote the interests of ISLAM/moslems - on pain of death!  [e.g. Charlie Hebdo attacks, Copenhagen attacks, etc] i.e. Moslems try to impose a new 'reasonable' 'idea', upon those that they [moslems] live among, the new and 'reasonable' idea, that scrutiny and criticism of the ideas and concepts which ISLAM promotes in the world, should be strictly prohibited. Why so ? Because the masters of ISLAM [i.e. the clerics] know that there is no benefit to ISLAM, if they were to ever allow any scrutiny [and consequent criticism] of the ideas and concepts which ISLAM promotes in the world. Any scrutiny [and consequent criticism] of ISLAM, can never serve the interests of ISLAM/moslems. Any scrutiny [and consequent criticism] of ISLAM, can only ever be to the detriment of the interests of ISLAM/moslems !!

Brian Ross,

As to my 'identity' and my persona...

I am here!

I am, 'identified'!     ....everyone who frequents OzPol regularly, and has read more than say, 5 of my posts, will probably have an opinion about 'Yadda'.

And in fact, the truth is, that if i had a personality that wanted to hide 'who i am', from the world, then i doubt that i would be here, on this public forum, posting my 'egregious' opinions, on OzPol.




Brian,

No one needs to intimately know the identity of any person who may express something on a public forum, in order to know if they agree [or disagree] with his/her expressed opinions on any particular topic.

Thankfully, to personally benefit from the 'value' of a worthy or 'good idea' or opinion, which is being publicly expressed,        all we need do, is to be exposed to that idea or opinion.

[And contrawise, whenever we are exposed to an 'idea' or opinion with which we disagree,     we 'instantly' know, that we disagree with it.]

And on a public forum, such as this,      if we ever come across some opinion, or some argument with which we vehemently disagree with,         what then ?

-------- >

Yadda said.....

Quote:

"And if the detractors [of certain comments i have made] have a legitimate complaint, then let them air it [IN THE FORUM], and have their complaint tested in debate! .....FOR ALL TO SEE. .....Open societies do not fear the opinions of fools. ....they rather, EXPOSE and laugh at folly! In any free and open debate, if a 'position' is absurd, if an 'argument' is absurd, ...then the debater is [often] condemned to all, WITH HIS OWN WORDS. And isn't the exposure of folly, and error, THE VERY FUNCTION, of free and open debate? Free and open debate *is meant* to be a contest of ideas! ....where every folly is revealed."

The ideas and concepts, which flow from the human psyche, are often 'well expressed' in our common words, imo.

And in common words, we will often instantly identify, either merit or folly being expressed.....



We are what we repeatedly do.
Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
- Aristotle


"Glory follows virtue as if it were its shadow."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, Roman Statesman

Yadda, your Islamophobic meanderings are those of someone who really, really, fears Muslims.  I have faced down gun nuts, I have faced down facists, I have faced down Islamophobes, Xenophobes, Racists, Communists, you name it.   I have always posted under my own, real name.  I stand by my opinions.

You, OTOH, cower in your cupboard, fearing a threat that does not exist.  The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable and above all else, faithful to their religion and their country.    Narnia is your fantasy land.

I'd recommend you get help.  I am quite serious about that.   You have a serious mental illness.    If I was you, I would seek help, professional help.   Australian Muslims are good people, despite what you believe.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 9:22pm: Told you... :D ;D :D http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Still wasting our time, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk...   ::)

NO BWIAN....  YOU ARE and HAVE BEEN FOR MONTHS

Don't waste your time with him Yadda, its bad enough he keeps addressing me. :D :D :D :D :D

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

Yadda, your Islamophobic meanderings are those of someone who really, really, fears Muslims.... You, .....cower in your cupboard, fearing a threat that does not exist.    !!!!!!! The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable and above all else, faithful to their religion and their country.  I'd recommend you get help.  I am quite serious about that.   You have a serious mental illness.    If I was you, I would seek help, professional help. Australian Muslims are good people, despite what you believe.

Brian,

I do not suffer from a phobia.

What i, and all of mankind, are suffering from,     is ISLAM-O-TERROR which is being inflicted upon much of the world today.

And it is an ISLAM-O-TERROR which is always carried out, by moslems, in the name of ISLAM.





Brian,

There are so many obviously contradictory [untrue] statements being made in you post, relating to the character and nature of 'the moslem', that your post itself is evidence of how ill-informed you are [relating to that character and nature of 'the moslem'],
that i must judge your post itself, to be evidence of your reckless denial of objective, observable truth,
......and therefore evidence of your own very tenuous grasp on reality.



Moslems are not 'overwhelming....peaceful, law-abiding, people'.

Moslems are all members, of a vicious and murderous death cult.


EXAMPLE #1,
AT THIS VERY MOMENT,         in our near north, a competent and reportedly honest non-moslem cannot stand for public office in that moslem majority jurisdiction, WITHOUT HAVING HIS LIFE AND PERSONAL SAFETY THREATENED, and without being threatened with imprisonment for blasphemy               - for the sole cause, of it being publicly known that Ahok it not a moslem, and that Ahok does no believe, what the moslem believes.




EXAMPLE #2,

Quote:

"The Koran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader, jihad is our path and death in the name of Allah is our goal."

Google




EXAMPLE #3,
Examples of the 'affections' of the moslem for his fellow man, exposed.....

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/



Brian,

The evidences contained in just those three examples, show how absurd is your stated claim, and 'heartfelt' assurance, of how benign is, the underlying nature of,
1/ ISLAM and
2/ the moslem [the follower, of ISLAM].


My own counter-claim is that;

Your own assertions on behalf of the moslem and his community offend reason and objectivity.

Your own public assertions, attest to your own mental condition at this time,
'unhinged' and deluded.



.




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac" - Yadda QUESTION; What about the innocent moslems ? IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems. How so [logically] ? QUESTION; How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ? QUESTION; How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

.





CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0

Quote:

Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems. ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers']. .....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

Yadda......... The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

Brian,

What you claim above is demonstrably so, so UNTRUE.

.....i could post many, many examples, of filthy stinking moslems, deceiving [blatantly seeking to deceive] non-moslems.



Brian,

How can a person have a meaningful [and peaceful] relationship with another human being, when that other, is continually misrepresenting himself/his position ?

How can we [or anyone] have a good/meaningful/productive relationship with a person, who demonstrates that [although they have the same opportunity as everyone else, to acquire something through honest effort], their first inclination is to lie and to seek to deceive others, so as to get what they believe that they 'deserve' ?

If this life teaches us anything, it teaches us that it is impossible to have a meaningful and substantive and peaceful relationship with a person who is willing to constantly lie to us, and to constantly deceive us.

That person is the moslem.




Yaddas TRUTH.....

Moslems will ALWAYS speak truthfully with non-moslems, except when it is not in their own interests to do so.

Moslems will ALWAYS fulfill their undertakings/agreements with non-moslems, except when it is not in their own interests to do so.

Yeah bwian has issues...  always willing to believe the worst of his fellow countrymen, always portraying them in a negative light, always cringing and denying we have a culture, pc prog left apologist to the core.

Grendel wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 1:06pm:

Yeah bwian has issues...  always willing to believe the worst of his fellow countrymen, always portraying them in a negative light, always cringing and denying we have a culture, pc prog left apologist to the core.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Always after a cheap shot, hey, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Yadda wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 10:25am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:24am: Yadda......... The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable...... Brian, What you claim above is demonstrably so, so UNTRUE.

You are deluded, Yadda.  Seek help.  Seek professional help from a trained psychiatrist.  Your Islamophobic paranoia is showing.   Badly.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2012/09/muslim-riots.jpeg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XfJdn4B_YPM/hqdefault.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

http://masik.puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/sites/default/files/domain-13884/kuvat/islamist_riot.jpg
http://wiadomosci.monasterujkowice.pl/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/islam-will-dominate.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4264388-3x2-340x227.jpg
https://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/London_Muslims_Protest_Danish_Cartoons_220806_600x400.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2012/09/21/f53b5cb4-a644-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/thumbnail/620x350/37fec3976baeb835a1a1cddac4d7a551/Pakistan_152462663.jpg
http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2007/11/riots-4-youths.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

https://balladeer.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/muslims.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/16/article-2395160-1B53311E000005DC-531_634x457.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

http://www.asianews.it/files/img/LIBANO_-_ISLAM_-_analisi_fondamentalismo.jpg
http://www.shouldamericafearsharia.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/beheading.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable and above all else, faithful to their religion and their country.

So how do you explain the Pew survey results?

Grendel,

A good series of images !

Lucidly contradicting the absolutely     absurd      claim of Brian.





THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 12:24am:

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful, law-abiding, people, who are truthful, honourable......

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/10/10/276C324300000578-3033285-The_female_jihadis_boisterously_shout_religious_slogans_praising-a-17_1428657040368.jpg
http://www.factslides.com/imgs/911-planes.jpg

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 1:06pm: Yeah bwian has issues...  always willing to believe the worst of his fellow countrymen, always portraying them in a negative light, always cringing and denying we have a culture, pc prog left apologist to the core. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Always after a cheap shot, hey, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

No bwian I leave the cheap shots for you I simply post the truth... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D