Members of a Western Sydney community are rallying against a development application for an Islamic school after losing a similar battle for a mosque development more than two years ago.

Penrith residents first became alerted to the Islamic school's plans for a second campus in their area after a development application was placed in a local newspaper several weeks ago.

Despite the omission of the words Muslim or Islamic, it didn't escape the attention of alarmed local residents or Penrith City councillor Marcus Cornish.




"You're going to change the demographics and it is a passive takeover, if you like, of our area," Cr Cornish told A Current Affair.

"There is no demand in the area. We do have Muslim people in this area, most of those people have moved to this area to get away from that sort of thing. They want to integrate and be part of the Australian way of life."

      

Concerned residents became alarmed when they noticed the development application for the disused Department of Education and Training site in Penrith

      

Penrith City councillor Marcus Cornish does not agree with the plan and is actively opposing it

Irfan College already have one campus in Cecil Park, approximately 30km south-east of Penrith.

Principal Ali Arabaci said the school was hoping to open a second campus at a vacant Department of Education and Training district office on Henry Street.

He is keen to point out that nothing different happens at his school than at other religious schools.

"To become an accredited school you must be implementing the Australian curriculum," he said. "Eighty percent of our curriculum is comprised of that and the other 20 percent is religious studies, such as the Koran. This is the same practice as most, if not all, faith-based schools."
Mr Arabici refutes Cr Cornish's claim that there is no demand for an Islamic school in the area, as about 30 percent of students attending the Cecil Park campus commute from the Penrith area.

Cr Cornish, who left the Liberal Party after Tony Abbott was replaced as Prime Minister by Malcolm Turnbull and is now an Independent, says local residents have a lot to fear.

"I will be proposing that all footpaths in the major thoroughfares in Penrith and sporting venues have barricades erected between them and the roads to protect people in case of an attack later," he said.

"We've seen it in other countries, why should we wait?"

      

Protest over a mosque in the area was incredibly heated two years ago

      

Residents of the predominantly Anglo-Saxon Penrith-region are concerned about what will happen to their community if more Islamic mosques or schools are approved

Mr Arabaci says he faced similar heated debate when the Irfan College's first campus opened in 2013.

"There was fears from the community and to date, it is our fifth year of operation and we take pride in saying there is not one complaint since our inception," he said.

A public meeting is planned for next month to discuss the development application.

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Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism.

Yep, saw the ACA beat up on it.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 12:55pm:

Yep, saw the ACA beat up on it.

It's not a beat up. I'm a local and the people I talk to don't want it. Many aussies have moved away from places like Lidcombe out to Penrith to get away from Islam. The school will get knocked back for sure. Penrith is an aussie town.

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism.

Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::)

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:55pm: Yep, saw the ACA beat up on it. It's not a beat up. I'm a local and the people I talk to don't want it. Many aussies have moved away from places like Lidcombe out to Penrith to get away from Islam. The school will get knocked back for sure. Penrith is an aussie town.

Ah, so basically you're implying that all Aussies are Islamophobes, Hammer?   Really?  And on what basis do you make that claim?   As long as the school meets the planning guidelines, there cannot be any reason to withhold permission for it's establishment.   When I hear about a Catholic/Anglican/Luthern/Hindu school being denied permission, I'll be interested in reading the reasons why...    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::)

Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::)

Well the Islamic schools are pushing puritanical Saudi style Islam.
Is that the good type of Islam?

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 3:09pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:55pm: Yep, saw the ACA beat up on it. It's not a beat up. I'm a local and the people I talk to don't want it. Many aussies have moved away from places like Lidcombe out to Penrith to get away from Islam. The school will get knocked back for sure. Penrith is an aussie town. Ah, so basically you're implying that all Aussies are Islamophobes, Hammer?   Really?  And on what basis do you make that claim?   As long as the school meets the planning guidelines, there cannot be any reason to withhold permission for it's establishment.   When I hear about a Catholic/Anglican/Luthern/Hindu school being denied permission, I'll be interested in reading the reasons why...    ::)

Poorly behaved Lebanese Muslims made many Sydney suburbs so unliveable  that many people moved out to Penrith to get away from it. That's why the local people don't want the school. It won't go ahead anyway because they want the school on a major road. It would cause massive  traffic disruptions.

Bwyannn to tge rescue of the CULT again

TRIES  to leap tall opposition with a single "islamaphobe" cry

TRIES  to stop terrorism discussion with a single scream of " Catholics do it too"

TRIES to stifle debate with insults and Tsk Tsk stupidity

BWYAN THE CULTS FRIEND, APOLOGIST, SYMPATHISER AND SYCOPHANT.

Lies do dot stop him,
terrorist attacks do not move him
Murder, pedophelia and dismemberment are nothing to him.

Bwyann
The muzzos friend
And a traitor to civilization and Australia.

If you like it so much
If you trust them so much
If you want the brutality, primitive behaviour and insanity

GO AND LIVE IN A MUSLIL COUNTRY FREAK

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism.

Breeding grounds for the alien colonisation of Australian society. A separate nation-building by a foreign entity within the broader demographic. Squatters.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 5:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx.

Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs...

But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc.

Please explain.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response.

How about the majority of residents not wanting it?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it?

That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion.

Wherever a mosque and Islamic school are built, this draws the hijab and bearded mob from far and wide to concentrate in these areas, buying up houses and opening businesses until within a few short years it's yet another ghetto from where the Anglo-Australians move further out along the railway lines in an act of White Flight and the hope of finding somewhere to live where dinki di Australia hasn't yet been completely obliterated by design of our successive governments.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Wherever a mosque and Islamic school are built, this draws the hijab and bearded mob from far and wide to concentrate in these areas, buying up houses and opening businesses until within a few short years it's yet another ghetto from where the Anglo-Australians move further out along the railway lines in an act of White Flight and the hope of finding somewhere to live where dinki di Australia hasn't yet been completely obliterated by design of our successive governments.

Don't worry herb, Penrith people won't let it happen. Just like the people of Camden.

I want to see what happens when there's a DA for a great big fat mosque in Balmain :)

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain.

On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

I want to see what happens when there's a DA for a great big fat mosque in Balmain :)

Ah, yes.

WHERE will the locals do their basket-weaving then?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 6:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Well the Islamic schools are pushing puritanical Saudi style Islam. Is that the good type of Islam?

Depends on what it teaches and how it is taught, Gordon.   I went to Catholic schools as a child.  Am I a Catholic now?  Nope.   Could it be that it had the reverse effect on me?   More than likely.   I'm not even a Christian now.   I just study religion for the hell of it.   ::)

Valkie wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

Bwyannn to tge rescue of the CULT again TRIES  to leap tall opposition with a single "islamaphobe" cry TRIES  to stop terrorism discussion with a single scream of " Catholics do it too" TRIES to stifle debate with insults and Tsk Tsk stupidity BWYAN THE CULTS FRIEND, APOLOGIST, SYMPATHISER AND SYCOPHANT. Lies do dot stop him, terrorist attacks do not move him Murder, pedophelia and dismemberment are nothing to him. Bwyann The muzzos friend And a traitor to civilization and Australia. If you like it so much If you trust them so much If you want the brutality, primitive behaviour and insanity GO AND LIVE IN A MUSLIL COUNTRY FREAK

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif

When you learn to write proper English, Valkie, I might be able to understand what you're claiming.  Tsk, tsk.   A new Australian, hey?   ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Breeding grounds for the alien colonisation of Australian society. A separate nation-building by a foreign entity within the broader demographic. Squatters.

Exactly what used to be claimed about Catholics, hey, Herbie back before the 1960s.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it?

And where in the Planning Regulations is that covered, Gordon?  Mmmm?    ::)

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Wherever a mosque and Islamic school are built, this draws the hijab and bearded mob from far and wide to concentrate in these areas, buying up houses and opening businesses until within a few short years it's yet another ghetto from where the Anglo-Australians move further out along the railway lines in an act of White Flight and the hope of finding somewhere to live where dinki di Australia hasn't yet been completely obliterated by design of our successive governments.

Oh, dear.  Look what you've all done!  You've woken Granpa up and set him off again!  Tsk, tsk, when will you youngsters learn not to do that?   He'll be going on now for hours and hours!   ::) ::)

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain. On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough?

Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land.

Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application?

I'm curious.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Wherever a mosque and Islamic school are built, this draws the hijab and bearded mob from far and wide to concentrate in these areas, buying up houses and opening businesses until within a few short years it's yet another ghetto from where the Anglo-Australians move further out along the railway lines in an act of White Flight and the hope of finding somewhere to live where dinki di Australia hasn't yet been completely obliterated by design of our successive governments.

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Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:05pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain. On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough? Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land. Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application? I'm curious.

No dear. They want to move into the old Penrith Public School buildings. You go have a nice lay down and you'll feel better.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land. Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application? I'm curious.

Traffic overload in the vicinity of the school during pick-up and drop-off of the little Mohammedans.

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it?

Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:31pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:05pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain. On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough? Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land. Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application? I'm curious. Traffic overload in the vicinity of the school.

That's one. Good.

Unfortunately, as Homo has just pointed out, the site used to be a school.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:31pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:05pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain. On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough? Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land. Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application? I'm curious. No dear. They want to move into the old Penrith Public School buildings.

And you're suggesting this is owned by the Penrith Council? DET-owned sites are private land, dear, as every schoolboy knows.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent?

Is that a serious question?

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:31pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:05pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain. On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough? Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land. Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application? I'm curious. No dear. They want to move into the old Penrith Public School buildings. And you're suggesting this is owned by the Penrith Council? DET-owned sites are private land, dear, as every schoolboy knows.

Well you look it up and enlighten me. I don't care who owns it. All I want is no stinking Islam School on the main drag of Penrith. That's what will stop it, traffic issues. That was one of the reasons they moved the old school.

I like the way you talk about the council owning the land. ::).......but just who do the council work for.. just who pays their wages....thats right rate payers..

there has to be a better way of dealing with something like this....if there is a lacking of schools in that community I would say fair enough....but at the end of the day....private schools all need propping up..for the govt to add another private school to its list.. then the public system ends up paying for it..

where do these children already go to school?????.....

if you want your child to have dancing classes or rock and roll lessons then they have them after school... so why not religious teaching as well.....

after all I know for a fact non Catholics can go to a Catholic school... would non Muslims children be welcome at an Islamic school??.... would they be allowed if they were   to celebrate CHristian special days.. like Easter??......I wonder!

cods wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

I like the way you talk about the council owning the land. ::).......but just who do the council work for.. just who pays their wages....thats right rate payers.. there has to be a better way of dealing with something like this....if there is a lacking of schools in that community I would say fair enough....but at the end of the day....private schools all need propping up..for the govt to add another private school to its list.. then the public system ends up paying for it.. where do these children already go to school?????..... if you want your child to have dancing classes or rock and roll lessons then they have them after school... so why not religious teaching as well..... after all I know for a fact non Catholics can go to a Catholic school... would non Muslims children be welcome at an Islamic school??.... would they be allowed if they were   to celebrate CHristian special days.. like Easter??......I wonder!

What I'm wondering is why they want to open another Muslim school in Penrith. Hardly any Muslims live there. There's no need for it.

Do I hear the familiar cry for religious freedom?

Ironic as it is, a secular state is the only moderately believable guarantee of religious freedom. Such a guarantee is hard to fulfill if the various religions do no acknowledge this. Those that demand recognition as the only true religion, forfeit any moral obligation of a state that would make freedom of conscience a principle.

As the world has become more contentious, successive Western administrations have chosen to step around this issue, like a dog turd, and pretend they don't smell it.

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent? Is that a serious question?

If you owned your home, you would have been sent DA notices to read. Have you read one?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:39pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:31pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:05pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. This includes car parking, fire planning, water and sewerage, any building impacts on neighbouring properties, etc, etc, etc. Please explain. On what basis? Well princess , the council owns the land and the buildings and they can rent them out to whoever they want. Good enough? Come come, dear: the council owns the land and the buildings? This is a Development Application on private land. Now let's start again. On what planning criteria are you suggesting the council should reject this application? I'm curious. No dear. They want to move into the old Penrith Public School buildings. And you're suggesting this is owned by the Penrith Council? DET-owned sites are private land, dear, as every schoolboy knows. Well you look it up and enlighten me. I don't care who owns it.

Ah.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

cods wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:46pm: I like the way you talk about the council owning the land. ::).......but just who do the council work for.. just who pays their wages....thats right rate payers.. there has to be a better way of dealing with something like this....if there is a lacking of schools in that community I would say fair enough....but at the end of the day....private schools all need propping up..for the govt to add another private school to its list.. then the public system ends up paying for it.. where do these children already go to school?????..... if you want your child to have dancing classes or rock and roll lessons then they have them after school... so why not religious teaching as well..... after all I know for a fact non Catholics can go to a Catholic school... would non Muslims children be welcome at an Islamic school??.... would they be allowed if they were   to celebrate CHristian special days.. like Easter??......I wonder! What I'm wondering is why they want to open another Muslim school in Penrith. Hardly any Muslims live there. There's no need for it.

Hardly any Homos live there either. You live in Rooty Hill, no?

Penrith has 5 Catholic schools. Hardly any Jesuits live there.

They must bus them in, no?

issuevoter wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:51pm:

Do I hear the familiar cry for religious freedom?

Not from moi, dear. We already have that.

No, all you'll hear from me is the familiar cry for council regulations. Nothing more, nothing less.

We won't hear of any illegal tree-lopping in Penrith, thank you very much.

Not on Homo's watch.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent? Is that a serious question? If you owned your home, you would have been sent DA notices to read. Have you read one?

Only for terrorist free synagogues

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:09pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:59pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent? Is that a serious question? If you owned your home, you would have been sent DA notices to read. Have you read one? Only for terrorist free synagogues

I see. And on what grounds did those DA notices for terrorist-free synagogues allow you to voice your concerns?

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:09pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:59pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent? Is that a serious question? If you owned your home, you would have been sent DA notices to read. Have you read one? Only for terrorist free synagogues I see. And on what grounds did those DA notices for terrorist-free synagogues allow you to voice your concerns?

What concerns?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion.

Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent?

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:14pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent?

Do you dress to the left or right?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:09pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:59pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent? Is that a serious question? If you owned your home, you would have been sent DA notices to read. Have you read one? Only for terrorist free synagogues I see. And on what grounds did those DA notices for terrorist-free synagogues allow you to voice your concerns? What concerns?

Why, any old concerns. There were examples on the notice, dear.

Oh, I see. You rent.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:11pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:09pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:59pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:37pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 5:54pm: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Really? And on what basis do you make that claim, Bogarde?  Islamophobia?   ::) Sydney is divided up into areas with majority ethnicities. Fairfield/Cabramatta is Vietnamese, Lakemba is Muslim and Penrith is  anglo . Let has our own culture hey? There's plenty of places in Sydney for a Muslim influx. Yes, Homo, there's always my multicultural ghetto. We take in all types in Granville. Chows, Curries, Pakis, Nig nogs... But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? Ah yes, let's consider this, but allow me to pose a question to you first. Do you own your home or rent? Is that a serious question? If you owned your home, you would have been sent DA notices to read. Have you read one? Only for terrorist free synagogues I see. And on what grounds did those DA notices for terrorist-free synagogues allow you to voice your concerns? What concerns? Why, any concerns. They were written on the notice, dear. Oh, I see. You rent.

If you say so.

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right?

Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself.

Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens?

He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there.

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:24pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:20pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens? He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there.

Except use the washing machines after 10.
Do you think the wishes of Penwif resident should be considered?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:20pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens? He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there. Except use the washing machines after 10. Do you think the wishes of Penwif resident should be considered?

But of course. On what grounds do you think they should be considered?

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:27pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:20pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens? He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there. Except use the washing machines after 10. Do you think the wishes of Penwif resident should be considered? But of course. On what grounds do you think they should be considered?

Not wanting a wahabist factory in their suburb.
Like all Islamic schools in Sydney it will be a little bit of wonderful Saudi culture for your cultural enrichment.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 12:14pm: Islamic schools are breeding grounds for cultural division and radicalism. Breeding grounds for the alien colonisation of Australian society. A separate nation-building by a foreign entity within the broader demographic. Squatters.

Quoting from the Local Government Amendment (planning and governance) Act (1993), are you, Herb?

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:32pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:27pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:20pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens? He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there. Except use the washing machines after 10. Do you think the wishes of Penwif resident should be considered? But of course. On what grounds do you think they should be considered? Not wanting a wahabist factory in their suburb. Like all Islamic schools in Sydney it will be a little bit of wonderful Saudi culture for your cultural enrichment.

Sorry, Gordon, I still don't understand. Culture and the Yarts is a federal portfolio. The Penrith City Council comes under the Local Government Act, administered by the state of NSW. And the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a different jurisdiction altogether.

Which planning criteria do you, as a non rate-paying resident of Bondi, use to reject this school?

Herbie, proud resident of the Nepean Holiday Park, suggests car parking. You?

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:32pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:27pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:20pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens? He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there. Except use the washing machines after 10. Do you think the wishes of Penwif resident should be considered? But of course. On what grounds do you think they should be considered? Not wanting a wahabist factory in their suburb. Like all Islamic schools in Sydney it will be a little bit of wonderful Saudi culture for your cultural enrichment. Sorry, Gordon, I still don't understand. Culture and the Yarts is a federal portfolio. The Penrith City Council comes under the Local Government Act, administered by the state of NSW. And the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a different jurisdiction altogether. Which planning criteria do you, as a non rate-paying resident of Bondi, use to reject this school? Herbie, proud resident of the Nepean Holiday Park, suggests car parking. You?

Don't be all Eddie Obeid about it - they don't want it near them.


Never mind who is your bitch in which layer of government.

Frank wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 11:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:39pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:32pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:27pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:24pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:20pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 10:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:46pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:34pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 8:29pm: . But I'm curious. On what basis do you think the Penrith Council will reject this school? Please refer to to LGAs' planning and development criteria in your response. How about the majority of residents not wanting it? That's a novel approach. Asking the rate-payers their opinion. Isn't it? Do you own your own home or rent? Do you dress to the left or right? Kindly allow Herbie to answer the question, please. You've had ample opportunity to express yourself. Herb ownes. Do you really think a rental would allow him to keep chickens? He lives in a caravan park. They let you do anything there. Except use the washing machines after 10. Do you think the wishes of Penwif resident should be considered? But of course. On what grounds do you think they should be considered? Not wanting a wahabist factory in their suburb. Like all Islamic schools in Sydney it will be a little bit of wonderful Saudi culture for your cultural enrichment. Sorry, Gordon, I still don't understand. Culture and the Yarts is a federal portfolio. The Penrith City Council comes under the Local Government Act, administered by the state of NSW. And the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a different jurisdiction altogether. Which planning criteria do you, as a non rate-paying resident of Bondi, use to reject this school? Herbie, proud resident of the Nepean Holiday Park, suggests car parking. You? Don't be all Eddie Obeid about it - they don't want it near them. Never mind who is your bitch in which layer of government.

Never mind? I say, old chap, what are you inferring? 

We abandon the rule of law? Private school funding? The Local Planning Act (1901)? Freedom of religion? The right to grow beards?

No worries. Let's do it. Just one thing, dear boy, what should we do with St John's Lutheran school?

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

That's one. Good. Unfortunately, as Homo has just pointed out, the site used to be a school.

Rezoning for high density residential apartments to be built there in view of Badgery's Creek becoming another international airport.

Penrith is a friendly pretty city with the mountains in the backdrop and a beautiful river running through it. It would break my heart to see 12 year old girls covered head to toe filing out onto the main drag at 3 o clock. It just doesn't belong. Penrith is 200 years old and built by anglo/celts. That's the culture of the place. That's why Lakemba and Karnal's Granville are crapholes  and Penrith is peaceful and pretty.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

Penrith is a friendly pretty city with the mountains in the backdrop and a beautiful river running through it. It would break my heart to see 12 year old girls covered head to toe filing out onto the main drag at 3 o clock. It just doesn't belong. Penrith is 200 years old and built by anglo/celts. That's the culture of the place. That's why Lakemba and Karnal's Granville are crapholes  and Penrith is peaceful and pretty.

Given up, have you?

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 8:43am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:38pm: That's one. Good. Unfortunately, as Homo has just pointed out, the site used to be a school. Rezoning for high density residential apartments to be built there in view of Badgery's Creek becoming another international airport.

Residential zoning includes schools, Herbie. Kids gotta go to school, unfortunately.

Have you considered the environmental protection act? It's a bit of a stab, but we could try to preserve some of the fine examples of grasses imported by generations of Anglo Celtic settlers, serving as a habitat for hares, rabbits, foxes and other introduced fauna.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 12:29am:

Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 11:39pm: Don't be all Eddie Obeid about it - they don't want it near them. Never mind who is your bitch in which layer of government. Never mind? I say, old chap, what are you inferring?  We abandon the rule of law? Private school funding? The Local Planning Act (1901)? Freedom of religion? The right to grow beards? No worries. Let's do it. Just one thing, dear boy, what should we do with St John's Lutheran school?

That's enough mincing from you.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 10:38am: Penrith is a friendly pretty city with the mountains in the backdrop and a beautiful river running through it. It would break my heart to see 12 year old girls covered head to toe filing out onto the main drag at 3 o clock. It just doesn't belong. Penrith is 200 years old and built by anglo/celts. That's the culture of the place. That's why Lakemba and Karnal's Granville are crapholes  and Penrith is peaceful and pretty. Given up, have you?

You have. The local Sunni Lebbos own your suburb. They do what they want.

Frank wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 12:29am: Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 11:39pm: Don't be all Eddie Obeid about it - they don't want it near them. Never mind who is your bitch in which layer of government. Never mind? I say, old chap, what are you inferring?  We abandon the rule of law? Private school funding? The Local Planning Act (1901)? Freedom of religion? The right to grow beards? No worries. Let's do it. Just one thing, dear boy, what should we do with St John's Lutheran school? That's enough mincing from you.

Don't want to say, eh?

I understand. You like meatballs, no?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 1:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 12:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 10:38am: Penrith is a friendly pretty city with the mountains in the backdrop and a beautiful river running through it. It would break my heart to see 12 year old girls covered head to toe filing out onto the main drag at 3 o clock. It just doesn't belong. Penrith is 200 years old and built by anglo/celts. That's the culture of the place. That's why Lakemba and Karnal's Granville are crapholes  and Penrith is peaceful and pretty. Given up, have you? You have. The local Sunni Lebbos own your suburb. They do what they want.

We all do, Homo, we all do. We're quite liberal that way.

You?

Islamic schools are training grounds for producing indoctrinated Muslims who take their authority and inspiration from the Koran and the local imams, with 'Christian Australia', by default, being relegated to dhimmi status as a society yet to be conquered by Islam.

That's enough reason for not providing any more schools for our political and cultural competitors.

We're not allowed to poison the wells, so let's drain them.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 2:05pm:

Islamic schools are training grounds for producing indoctrinated Muslims who take their authority and inspiration from the Koran and the local imams, with 'Christian Australia', by default, being relegated to dhimmi status as a society yet to be conquered by Islam. That's enough reason for not providing any more schools for our political and cultural competitors. We're not allowed to poison the wells, so let's drain them.

You're not allowed to ban religious schools either, so why are you even bothering to whinge? I know it's in your DNA, but surely you can learn to do something a little smarter with the rest of your life than just mindlessly bleating away.

I've given you a few tricks in this thread and others, but I won't be there to hold your hand when you shuffle off this mortal coil. Then, you're on your own.

So until then, why not empower yourself with knowledge and facts? Stop the useless whining and get smart. Stop trying to fool us, but most importantly, stop deceiving yourself.

You face oblivion. The world you knew is finished. You can never resurrect it. You now face a journey where your accceptance of change is crucial. Prepare yourself.

The Muslim school in Penrith is the least of your problems, but if it meets planning guidelines, the only thing that's going to stop it is problems with the banks.

This is the world we live in, and you know it. Acccept your fate, as we accept ours. We'll all be dealt with in the fullness of time.

Islamic schools are an external campus to study saudi wahabisim

What the!

The school that won’t let girls run… Because the principal fears they will lose their virginity.

1. Islamic School in Victoria bans girls from running.

Girls at the Islamic Schools of Victoria, Al-Taqwa College, outside Melbourne have been banned from running at sporting events because the principal believes it may cause them to lose their virginity.

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Girls were banned from running at sporting events.
The Age reports that a former teacher has written to the education ministers claiming female students were being discriminated against.

“The principal holds beliefs that if females run excessively, they may ‘lose their virginity’,” the letter says.

“The principal believes that there is scientific evidence to indicate that if girls injure themselves, such as break their leg while playing soccer, it could render them infertile.”

Another letter written by students to the Principal says “It was really shocking to find out it has been cancelled because of the excuse girls can’t run,” the students said.

“Just because we are girls doesn’t mean we can’t participate in running events. It also doesn’t say girls can’t run in the hadith (the sayings of Muhammad).”


The Age reports that the Principal Omar Hallak prevented the female primary school cross-country team from participating in a 2013 and 2014 district event.

Another former Al-Taqwa College teacher told The Age “I was told the girls weren’t allowed to participate. The reason was they might over-exert themselves and lose their virginity or be rendered infertile.”

The Victorian Registration and Qualifications Authority which regulate schools is investigating the allegations.

Gordon wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Islamic schools are an external campus to study saudi wahabisim

So tell the Waverley Council. Expect to be given a pamphlet with their equal opportunity and diversity policies.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 3:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:06pm: Islamic schools are an external campus to study saudi wahabisim So tell the Waverley Council. Expect to be given a pamphlet with their equal opportunity and diversity policies.

Do you give the puritanical Saudi style proselytisation the thumbs up?

Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 3:16pm:

Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either.

Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo.

You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something.

We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal.

Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go away. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not.

Mo rons like you still haven't realised how sick of Islam people are . Penrith doesn't want it. It won't go ahead because they want a huge school on Penrith's main road. Kids coming and going will clog traffic up. That's why it won't go ahead. Put the school in Granvenon. That's where it's culturally compatible.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not.

Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education?

Gordon wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education?

Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen?

In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 4:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide.

Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey?

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey?

I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments.

The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm.

Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean.

But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way.

Right, Homo?

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:18pm:

The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles is filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way.

I don't like this either but the Jews aren't causing s hit so it's tolerated. I know people from the eastern suburbs who are not happy about the Jews dominating certain suburbs. That's what the people of Penrith don't want, the eventual domination of suburbs with mass Islamic movement. It's happened to many Sydney suburbs already.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:18pm:

The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo?

Because....they are few.

How many Jews are there in the world? That's a difficult question to answer, because not every country keeps track of such things, and not every Jew chooses to admit such things, particularly in countries where Jews are persecuted.

Most estimates I have seen suggest that there are about 13-14 million Jews in the world

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 4:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::)

Sure, the academic curriculum would be modelled to to pass the HSC.

What about the religious and social component?
Lets use Malek Fahd Islamic School for an example.
Why are you so blasé about wahabisim being taught in Australian funded schools?


History
Malek Fahd Islamic School was opened in October 1989 with one campus in Greenacre. The purchase of the land for the school was secured through a $12 million gift from King Fahd of Saudi Arabia.[3] The school started with 87 students from kindergarten to year 3 but has grown to over 2000 students in 2013.[4] In April 2011 the school established two campuses in Hoxton Park and Beaumont Hills both catering for students in early primary school.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey? I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments.

So, after 5 pages, Homo finally comes out with it: he has a Muslim school a k away from his mum's house. Do you believe it?

Of course not, but the problems Homo describes have nothing to do with traffic, nothing about loud noises or calls to prayer or anything else that might effect his personal liberty. The problem?

Homo has to witness the segregation of the sexes through the school fence.

So unfair, Homo, I know. Just Make sure you steer clear of the Bondi Yeshiva next time you travel to the white leafy ghettos to hang out with the kids, okay? We wouldn't want to see you getting traumatised or anything.

Gordon wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Because....they are few. How many Jews are there in the world? That's a difficult question to answer, because not every country keeps track of such things, and not every Jew chooses to admit such things, particularly in countries where Jews are persecuted. Most estimates I have seen suggest that there are about 13-14 million Jews in the world

You live in North Bondi, and you're talking the Jewish population down?

I don't know what's worse: Homo pretending he lives with all these Muslims, or you pretending you don't live in Jehova Heights.

Stupid or mendacious? Mendacious or stupid?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey? I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments. So, after 5 pages, Homo finally comes out with it: he has a Muslim school a k away from his mum's house. Do you believe it? Of course not, but the problems Homo describes have nothing to do with traffic, nothing about loud noises or calls to prayer or anything else that might effect his personal liberty. The problem? Homo has to witness the segregation of the sexes through the school fence. So unfair, Homo, I know. Just Make sure you steer clear of the Bondi Yeshiva next time you travel to the white leafy ghettos to hang out with the kids, okay? We wouldn't want to see you getting traumatised or anything.

Not the school fence you silly old fart, on a public oval. And the bloody mosque/school banks up traffic everyday and causes issues with illegal parking. In a more central place like High St Penrith it would be a disaster. Apparently the government sold this heritage listed site (Penrith Public School 1870) to this Saudi based company. Far king trechorous scum. We'll stop it though.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:18pm:

The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo?

Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad.

But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter.

Frank wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter.

When there are gangs kippah wearing boys terrorising Sydney I'll take notice

Frank wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter.

Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob.

Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation).

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter. Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob. Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation).

The terrorists  du jour are Muslims and plot after plot after god dam effing plot are being thwarted by our amazing authorities.

Now stop comparing something to nothing you revolting terrorist sympathiser

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey? I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments.

"Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants...


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The religious makeup of Penrith is 27.8% Catholic, 24.7% Anglican, 16.6% No religion, 8.8% Religious affiliation not stated, 3.4% Presbyterian and Reformed, 2.8% Uniting Church, 2.4% Christian, nfd, 1.9% Islam, 1.6% Buddhism, 1.5% Pentecostal.

[url=http://penrith.localstats.com.au/demographics/nsw/sydney/blue-mountains/penrith]Source[/url]

So, approximately 1.9& of it's population states itself to be "Islam" in belief.  With a population of 11,813 according to the same site, that means approximately 224 are Muslim.   I think that is sufficient, plus those from surrounding areas to justify wanting a school dedicated to their faith.   I wonder how many other specialised, Religious based schools there are in Penrith?   Why aren't you protesting against them, Hammer?   Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia on display here again.    ::) ::)

Yeah but how many teach.

Beheading.
Pedophiles marriage
limb removal via a machete
Stoning child rape victims
primitive and barbaric worship of a self confessed pedophile, sociopath, mentally ill prophet?

This is not what we want taught anywhere.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey? I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments. "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... Quote: The religious makeup of Penrith is 27.8% Catholic, 24.7% Anglican, 16.6% No religion, 8.8% Religious affiliation not stated, 3.4% Presbyterian and Reformed, 2.8% Uniting Church, 2.4% Christian, nfd, 1.9% Islam, 1.6% Buddhism, 1.5% Pentecostal. [url=http://penrith.localstats.com.au/demographics/nsw/sydney/blue-mountains/penrith]Source[/url] So, approximately 1.9& of it's population states itself to be "Islam" in belief.  With a population of 11,813 according to the same site, that means approximately 224 are Muslim.   I think that is sufficient, plus those from surrounding areas to justify wanting a school dedicated to their faith.   I wonder how many other specialised, Religious based schools there are in Penrith?   Why aren't you protesting against them, Hammer?   Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia on display here again.    ::) ::)

Hey Brian Islam, there's no need for a second Muslim school at Penrith you dropkick. Hardly any Muslims live there. Obviously Muslims want to build the school so they can move into the area. The Penrith people don't want them. They change places.

Valkie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Yeah but how many teach. Beheading. Pedophiles marriage limb removal via a machete Stoning child rape victims primitive and barbaric worship of a self confessed pedophile, sociopath, mentally ill prophet? This is not what we want taught anywhere.

Islamophobia on display again, Valkie?  I remember reading the same sort of complaints directed towards Catholics in Australia at the start of the 20th century.  Tsk, tsk, when are you going to grow up?   ::)

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey? I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments. "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... Quote: The religious makeup of Penrith is 27.8% Catholic, 24.7% Anglican, 16.6% No religion, 8.8% Religious affiliation not stated, 3.4% Presbyterian and Reformed, 2.8% Uniting Church, 2.4% Christian, nfd, 1.9% Islam, 1.6% Buddhism, 1.5% Pentecostal. [url=http://penrith.localstats.com.au/demographics/nsw/sydney/blue-mountains/penrith]Source[/url] So, approximately 1.9& of it's population states itself to be "Islam" in belief.  With a population of 11,813 according to the same site, that means approximately 224 are Muslim.   I think that is sufficient, plus those from surrounding areas to justify wanting a school dedicated to their faith.   I wonder how many other specialised, Religious based schools there are in Penrith?   Why aren't you protesting against them, Hammer?   Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia on display here again.    ::) ::) Hey Brian Islam, there's no need for a second Muslim school at Penrith you dropkick. Hardly any Muslims live there. Obviously Muslims want to build the school so they can move into the area. The Penrith people don't want them. They change places.

As far as I know, the Penrith people haven't been consulted, Hammer.  We have only heard from the local Islamophobes who protest at anything do with Islam.   In reality, as the figures I have provided show, there are approximately 224 people in Penrith who profess to being Muslim.  I am sure there are similar numbers in surround areas.   I think, as they are Australian citizens or residents they enjoy exactly the same rights as do every other Australia.   As long as they satisfy the planning requirements under the Local Government Act, then there is nothing stopping them from establishing their school.   You are on the outer on this, as you should be.   Islamophobe.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:13pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:02pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 4:53pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 3:16pm: Hey Karnal, I'm 100% certain this school will get knocked back. It won't be the last time either. Nearly everything you're 100% certain of goes the other way. When this is pointed out to you, you go into hiding. You're most obedient that way, Homo. You have no right to tell others how to run a school, what to wear, or what to believe. You have no say in whether a religious school opens up a couple of suburbs away, no matter how many online petitions you sign or emails you pass on from One Nation - and for you, this would be doing something. We have a rule of law which applies to everyone. If you want to get a collection of like-minded parents together and open an Aussie Aussie Aussie private school, you're perfectly free to do so. I have no right to tell you to close it down or go somewhere else, and I wouldn't. You're free to impart your values onto your kids, as long as they're legal. Your kids will learn for themselves when they get older. They'll decide whether you're full of krap or not. Why are you so in favour of Saudi style education? Perhaps because you haven't produced any evidence that is what will happen? In reality, Islamic schools in Australia appear to have similar teaching curricular to all other schools in Australia.   Tsk, tsk, shot down again, hey, Gordon?   ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D except for the gender divide. Interestingly, gender division has been discussed for a long time in general education circles outside the religious sphere, Hammer.   It seems boys do better without girls in some subjects and girls without boys in others.  Funny that, hey? I have a Muslim school 1km from my house. The boys run around playing sport in shorts and t shirts while the girls swelter covered head to toe in a segregated game of catch. There's loads of differences between between Islamic education and the rest. Particularly in the arts. It doesn't belong in Penrith. Penrith as a aussie town. It's like building a mosque in Vatican City. Religious and cultural compatibility is something that really needs to be taken into account with developments. "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... Quote: The religious makeup of Penrith is 27.8% Catholic, 24.7% Anglican, 16.6% No religion, 8.8% Religious affiliation not stated, 3.4% Presbyterian and Reformed, 2.8% Uniting Church, 2.4% Christian, nfd, 1.9% Islam, 1.6% Buddhism, 1.5% Pentecostal. [url=http://penrith.localstats.com.au/demographics/nsw/sydney/blue-mountains/penrith]Source[/url] So, approximately 1.9& of it's population states itself to be "Islam" in belief.  With a population of 11,813 according to the same site, that means approximately 224 are Muslim.   I think that is sufficient, plus those from surrounding areas to justify wanting a school dedicated to their faith.   I wonder how many other specialised, Religious based schools there are in Penrith?   Why aren't you protesting against them, Hammer?   Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia on display here again.    ::) ::) Hey Brian Islam, there's no need for a second Muslim school at Penrith you dropkick. Hardly any Muslims live there. Obviously Muslims want to build the school so they can move into the area. The Penrith people don't want them. They change places. As far as I know, the Penrith people haven't been consulted, Hammer.  We have only heard from the local Islamophobes who protest at anything do with Islam.   In reality, as the figures I have provided show, there are approximately 224 people in Penrith who profess to being Muslim.  I am sure there are similar numbers in surround areas.   I think, as they are Australian citizens or residents they enjoy exactly the same rights as do every other Australia.   As long as they satisfy the planning requirements under the Local Government Act, then there is nothing stopping them from establishing their school.   You are on the outer on this, as you should be.   Islamophobe.    ::)

The local  people have been consulted. There's a petition with 1,000's of signatures on Change.org. A council meeting for locals is about to be undertaken. It's actually big news in Penrith.

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter. Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob. Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation).

You revert to mindless jibberish when you are shown your stupidity. 

The Jews are not waging a religious jihad on anyone. Muslims DO. Including 'Australian' Muslims.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

"Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants...

They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly.

They can see that Islam brings nothing positive so they do not want it. Islam's impact on the world is entirely negative, horrendous, dangerous and despicable. Of course they don't want any of it. Who does?

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:04pm: Yeah but how many teach. Beheading. Pedophiles marriage limb removal via a machete Stoning child rape victims primitive and barbaric worship of a self confessed pedophile, sociopath, mentally ill prophet? This is not what we want taught anywhere. Islamophobia on display again, Valkie?  I remember reading the same sort of complaints directed towards Catholics in Australia at the start of the 20th century.  Tsk, tsk, when are you going to grow up?   ::)

Yay I got my tsktsk from the sympathiser, sycophant muzzo
There is no such thing as an islamaphobe
Its a make up word used by apologists wishing to protect the CULT and its insane practices.

Ever noticed the similarity.........islam.......insane

Probably just a spelling mistake by the brain dead muzzos

Frank wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly. They can see that Islam brings nothing positive so they do not want it. Islam's impact on the world is entirely negative, horrendous, dangerous and despicable. Of course they don't want any of it. Who does?

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Frank wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 7:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:48pm: Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter. Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob. Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation). You revert to mindless jibberish when you are shown your stupidity.  The Jews are not waging a religious jihad on anyone. Muslims DO. Including 'Australian' Muslims.

You're an "Australian" Scandinavian, you shifty, evasive nice person. Anders Breivik was a Scandinavian. Ipso facto, you people aren't welcome here, and nor are your terrorist Lutheran schools.

Happy now?

Valkie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly. They can see that Islam brings nothing positive so they do not want it. Islam's impact on the world is entirely negative, horrendous, dangerous and despicable. Of course they don't want any of it. Who does? X2

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Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

The local  people have been consulted. There's a petition with 1,000's of signatures on Change.org. A council meeting for locals is about to be undertaken. It's actually big news in Penrith.

Change.org petitions have no legal standing before the law, Hammer.   As anyone can sign and can sign multiple times, they are worthless.   Tsk, tsk, it's just Islamophobia on display again.    ::)

Frank wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 7:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly.

In Australia, Soren?  Really?   ::) ::)


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They can see that Islam brings nothing positive so they do not want it. Islam's impact on the world is entirely negative, horrendous, dangerous and despicable. Of course they don't want any of it. Who does?

Islamophobia again?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Valkie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:49pm: Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 6:04pm: Yeah but how many teach. Beheading. Pedophiles marriage limb removal via a machete Stoning child rape victims primitive and barbaric worship of a self confessed pedophile, sociopath, mentally ill prophet? This is not what we want taught anywhere. Islamophobia on display again, Valkie?  I remember reading the same sort of complaints directed towards Catholics in Australia at the start of the 20th century.  Tsk, tsk, when are you going to grow up?   ::) Yay I got my tsktsk from the sympathiser, sycophant muzzo There is no such thing as an islamaphobe Its a make up word used by apologists wishing to protect the CULT and its insane practices. Ever noticed the similarity.........islam.......insane Probably just a spelling mistake by the brain dead muzzos

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Ad hominem mixed with Islamophobia, Valkie?  How old are you again?   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:01pm: The local  people have been consulted. There's a petition with 1,000's of signatures on Change.org. A council meeting for locals is about to be undertaken. It's actually big news in Penrith. Change.org petitions have no legal standing before the law, Hammer.   As anyone can sign and can sign multiple times, they are worthless.   Tsk, tsk, it's just Islamophobia on display again.    ::)

You keep believing that rubbish. Islam isn't popular brian. You can take that to the bank.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:52pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:01pm: The local  people have been consulted. There's a petition with 1,000's of signatures on Change.org. A council meeting for locals is about to be undertaken. It's actually big news in Penrith. Change.org petitions have no legal standing before the law, Hammer.   As anyone can sign and can sign multiple times, they are worthless.   Tsk, tsk, it's just Islamophobia on display again.    ::) You keep believing that rubbish. Islam isn't popular brian. You can take that to the bank.

I don't care if it's popular or not.  It is legal and that I will take to the bank, Hammer.   ::)

Theosophy isn't too popular either, but I've never heard Homo try to ban Steiner schools.

We'll always have Luther, no?

Karnal wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 8:43pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:07pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:48pm: Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter. Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob. Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation). You revert to mindless jibberish when you are shown your stupidity.  The Jews are not waging a religious jihad on anyone. Muslims DO. Including 'Australian' Muslims. You're an "Australian" Scandinavian, you shifty, evasive nice person. Anders Breivik was a Scandinavian. Ipso facto, you people aren't welcome here, and nor are your terrorist Lutheran schools. Happy now?

Oh K - we can go much further with that logic:

Frank is a white nationalist from Scandinavia who wants muslims completely removed from the west. Anders Breivik is a white nationalist from Scandinavia who wants muslims completely removed from the west. Ipso facto, Frank is part of a extremist ideology who are willing to carry out terrorism to achieve their aims.

I mean, have you ever actually heard Frank condemn Breivik?

All the arguments he regurgitates ad-nauseum about all muslims being responsible for Islamic terrorism can be applied to him.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:51am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 8:43pm: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:07pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:48pm: Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:22pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:18pm: The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter. Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob. Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation). You revert to mindless jibberish when you are shown your stupidity.  The Jews are not waging a religious jihad on anyone. Muslims DO. Including 'Australian' Muslims. You're an "Australian" Scandinavian, you shifty, evasive nice person. Anders Breivik was a Scandinavian. Ipso facto, you people aren't welcome here, and nor are your terrorist Lutheran schools. Happy now? Oh K - we can go much further with that logic: Frank is a white nationalist from Scandinavia who wants muslims completely removed from the west. Anders Breivik is a white nationalist from Scandinavia who wants muslims completely removed from the west. Ipso facto, Frank is part of a extremist ideology who are willing to carry out terrorism to achieve their aims. I mean, have you ever actually heard Frank condemn Breivik?

Not once. In fact, Frank's old school chum Sore End went so far as to justify the work of Breivik. Sore End passionately argued that Breivik's motives were sound. He agreed wholeheartedly with Anders Breivik.

White, Lutheran and bearded. Correlation not causation, innit.

Karnal wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 3:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 6:51am: Karnal wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 8:43pm: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:07pm: Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:48pm: Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2017 at 6:22pm: [quote author=Karnal link=1491522247/79#79 date=1491722318]The Bondi Yehiva teaches from a largely orthodox curriculum. Mothers in head coverings (wigs) pick kids up from school. Food served is Kosher. Religion taught is pre-historic. The gender roles are tighter than Islam. And like every other school the world over, the traffic banks up at 3pm. Despite all this, Gordon carries on, happy in the knowledge that the country he migrated to gives those of his culture the freedom to be non-assimilating traditionalists who practice a Semitic, patriarchal and homophobic lifestyle. They have their own courts in Australia, the Beth Din. The shelves of Bondi Junction Coles are filled with their own certified food products. They don't work on Saturdays, and they don't shake women's hands. I'm not allowed to enter the place they prepare their food - too unclean. But do you know? We wouldn't have it any other way. Right, Homo? Quaint like the Amish but harmless.  Unlike the jihadis. That's the difference between Jehova Heights and Auburnon - jihad. But you knew that already but just pretended it didn't matter. Oh yes, of course I knew you'd compare a DET-accredited private school to a sinister global network of terrorist cells, old boy, I just thought you might like to change tacK for a bit and discuss how Local Government, for all its faults, actually protects our civil liberties and is our front-line defence against the rule of the mob. Let's return to our age-old chat about Australian Muslim terrorism. We can discuss great Muslim acts of terror like the Hilton bombing and the bombing of the Turkish consulate, before you get all confused, have a meltdown and return to the perennial subject of beards, headscarves and varying degrees of tintedness (correlation not causation). You revert to mindless jibberish when you are shown your stupidity.  The Jews are not waging a religious jihad on anyone. Muslims DO. Including 'Australian' Muslims. You're an "Australian" Scandinavian, you shifty, evasive nice person. Anders Breivik was a Scandinavian. Ipso facto, you people aren't welcome here, and nor are your terrorist Lutheran schools. Happy now? Oh K - we can go much further with that logic: Frank is a white nationalist from Scandinavia who wants muslims completely removed from the west. Anders Breivik is a white nationalist from Scandinavia who wants muslims completely removed from the west. Ipso facto, Frank is part of a extremist ideology who are willing to carry out terrorism to achieve their aims. I mean, have you ever actually heard Frank condemn Breivik?

Not once. In fact, Frank's old school chum Sore End went so far as to justify the work of Breivik. [quote]


As does Ayaan Hirsi Ali .. an oft overlooked point when her name comes up.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly. In Australia, Soren?  Really?   ::) ::)

What is the difference between Australian Muslims and other Muslims?

Do we have to wait until they drive trucks into Martin Place at lunchtime before we can say that Islam is a bad thing?

No.

Islam is a terrible creed, it is the cause of mayhem around the world. I do not want to wait until an Islamic mass murder happens in Australia to say this.

I can learn from other people's experience - you, on the other hand, are far too stupid and dishonest to EVEN contemplate learning from other people's experiences with Islam.  That is why you are a despised, idiotic melt, Bwian. Just a frikken outrageously stupid and dangerous melt.


Fair frikken dinkum.

Frank wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly. In Australia, Soren?  Really?   ::) ::) What is the difference between Australian Muslims and other Muslims?

They live in Australia?   The majority are accommodated to Australian society?  I dunno, Soren, why don't you tell us what you think the difference is?   I'm sure you're answer will be Islamophobic though...    ::)


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Do we have to wait until they drive trucks into Martin Place at lunchtime before we can say that Islam is a bad thing? No. Islam is a terrible creed, it is the cause of mayhem around the world. I do not want to wait until an Islamic mass murder happens in Australia to say this. I can learn from other people's experience - you, on the other hand, are far too stupid and dishonest to EVEN contemplate learning from other people's experiences with Islam.  That is why you are a despised, idiotic melt, Bwian. Just a frikken outrageously stupid and dangerous melt. Fair frikken dinkum.

Oh, it was.  How unsurprising.  Soren, why do you even bother?  We know what you're going to post even before you bother to post it.  All you're after is persecution and hatred.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Frank wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm: Frank wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:41pm: "Penrith is an Aussie town"?  So, then, why are they attempting to build an Islamic school there?  Schools are built to answer a demand, Hammer, they are expensive and so they are only built where they are needed.   I'd suggest you recheck your Census data if you believe that Pentrish is "an Aussie town", in that the overwhelming majority of it's population is made up of White, Christian, Anglo-Saxon/Celtic inhabitants... They do not want Muslims because more Islam means Easter Sunday murdering of Christians, Islam means terrorism, segregation in ghettos, support for IS, refusal to assimilate, being militantly against freedoms of speech, conscience, assembly. In Australia, Soren?  Really?   ::) ::) What is the difference between Australian Muslims and other Muslims? Do we have to wait until they drive trucks into Martin Place at lunchtime before we can say that Islam is a bad thing? No. Islam is a terrible creed, it is the cause of mayhem around the world. I do not want to wait until an Islamic mass murder happens in Australia to say this. I can learn from other people's experience - you, on the other hand, are far too stupid and dishonest to EVEN contemplate learning from other people's experiences with Islam.  That is why you are a despised, idiotic melt, Bwian. Just a frikken outrageously stupid and dangerous melt. Fair frikken dinkum.

Nice bit of Strine there, Frank. You'll have to teach Sore End that one.

Who knows? Once he weans himself off Anders Breivik's bearded white Lutheran influence, maybe he'll decide to assimilate.

Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?