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Message started by The Mechanic on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:33am

Title: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:33am

Quote:
CANDIDATE TRUMP: ‘I LOVE WIKILEAKS.’ PRESIDENT TRUMP: ‘ARREST ASSANGE!’

“I love Wikileaks,” candidate Donald Trump said on October 10th on the campaign trail. He praised the organization for reporting on the darker side of the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was information likely leaked by a whistleblower from within the Clinton campaign to Wikileaks.

Back then he praised Wikileaks for promoting transparency, but candidate Trump looks less like President Trump every day. The candidate praised whistleblowers and Wikileaks often on the campaign trail. In fact, candidate Trump loved Wikileaks so much he mentioned the organization more than 140 times in the final month of the campaign alone! Now, as President, it seems Trump wants Wikileaks founder Julian Assange sent to prison.

Last week CNN reported, citing anonymous “intelligence community” sources, that the Trump Administration’s Justice Department was seeking the arrest of Assange and had found a way to charge the Wikileaks founder for publishing classified information without charging other media outlets such as the New York Times and Washington Post for publishing the same information.

It might have been tempting to write off the CNN report as “fake news,” as is much of their reporting, but for the fact President Trump said in an interview on Friday that issuing an arrest warrant for Julian Assange would be, “OK with me.”
Trump’s condemnation of Wikileaks came just a day after his CIA Director, Michael Pompeo, attacked Wikileaks as a “hostile intelligence service.” Pompeo accused Assange of being “a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen.”

Pompeo’s word choice was no accident. By accusing Wikileaks of being a “hostile intelligence service” rather than a publisher of information on illegal and abusive government practices leaked by whistleblowers, he signaled that the organization has no First Amendment rights. Like many in Washington, he does not understand that the First Amendment is a limitation on government rather than a granting of rights to citizens. Pompeo was declaring war on Wikileaks.

But not that long ago Pompeo also cited Wikileaks as an important source of information. In July he drew attention to the Wikileaks release of information damaging to the Clinton campaign, writing, “Need further proof that the fix was in from President Obama on down?”

There is a word for this sudden about-face on Wikileaks and the transparency it provides us into the operations of the prominent and powerful: hypocrisy.

The Trump Administration’s declaration of war on whistleblowers and Wikileaks is one of the greatest disappointments in these first 100 days. Donald Trump rode into the White House with promises that he would “drain the swamp,” meaning that he would overturn the apple carts of Washington’s vested interests. By unleashing those same vested interests on those who hold them in check – the whistleblowers and those who publish their revelations – he has turned his back on those who elected him.

Julian Assange, along with the whistleblowers who reveal to us the evil that is being done in our name, are heroes. They deserve our respect and admiration, not a prison cell. If we allow this president to declare war on those who tell the truth, we have only ourselves to blame.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:43am
<monotone sarcastic voice>

Wow, Trump went back on his word/stance again.  I'm so shocked.  His supporters should be outraged.

</monotone sarcastic voice>

It's not like Trump would want someone like Assange giving him the same treatment as his enemies, especially with what may come to light from the campaign.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by bogarde73 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:58am
Mechanic, in America right now a thread title like that would probably get you a college scholarship, if not a degree, maybe your own show on MSNBC, 100,000 twitter followers and what all.

You could be a Lena Dunham . . .or even.a Marla.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:02am

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:58am:
Mechanic, in America right now a thread title like that would probably get you a college scholarship, if not a degree, maybe your own show on MSNBC, 100,000 twitter followers and what all.

You could be a Lena Dunham . . .or even.a Marla.


Translation: I attacked Clinton for her stance on Assange during the campaign and now Trump has taken the same position.  I'm left only with attacking the poster who highlighted this lest I expose myself as a hypocrite for continuing to support Trump for an action that I claimed made his opponent unelectable.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by bogarde73 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:07am
What a sad kangaroo you are.
I hold no brief for Assange at all. I am only commenting on the type of language that gets used in America these days.
Do I have your permission to do that?

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:12am

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:07am:
Do I have your permission to do that?


Let me consult with the Sad Wallaby and Sad Bilby and I'll get back to you.

On a serious note, if I jumped to the wrong conclusion because I've been around here dealing with Trump Supporters for far too long, my bad, I apologise.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Ajax on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:24am

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:47am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:33am:

Quote:
CANDIDATE TRUMP: ‘I LOVE WIKILEAKS.’ PRESIDENT TRUMP: ‘ARREST ASSANGE!’

“I love Wikileaks,” candidate Donald Trump said on October 10th on the campaign trail. He praised the organization for reporting on the darker side of the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was information likely leaked by a whistleblower from within the Clinton campaign to Wikileaks.

Back then he praised Wikileaks for promoting transparency, but candidate Trump looks less like President Trump every day. The candidate praised whistleblowers and Wikileaks often on the campaign trail. In fact, candidate Trump loved Wikileaks so much he mentioned the organization more than 140 times in the final month of the campaign alone! Now, as President, it seems Trump wants Wikileaks founder Julian Assange sent to prison.

Last week CNN reported, citing anonymous “intelligence community” sources, that the Trump Administration’s Justice Department was seeking the arrest of Assange and had found a way to charge the Wikileaks founder for publishing classified information without charging other media outlets such as the New York Times and Washington Post for publishing the same information.

It might have been tempting to write off the CNN report as “fake news,” as is much of their reporting, but for the fact President Trump said in an interview on Friday that issuing an arrest warrant for Julian Assange would be, “OK with me.”
Trump’s condemnation of Wikileaks came just a day after his CIA Director, Michael Pompeo, attacked Wikileaks as a “hostile intelligence service.” Pompeo accused Assange of being “a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen.”

Pompeo’s word choice was no accident. By accusing Wikileaks of being a “hostile intelligence service” rather than a publisher of information on illegal and abusive government practices leaked by whistleblowers, he signaled that the organization has no First Amendment rights. Like many in Washington, he does not understand that the First Amendment is a limitation on government rather than a granting of rights to citizens. Pompeo was declaring war on Wikileaks.

But not that long ago Pompeo also cited Wikileaks as an important source of information. In July he drew attention to the Wikileaks release of information damaging to the Clinton campaign, writing, “Need further proof that the fix was in from President Obama on down?”

There is a word for this sudden about-face on Wikileaks and the transparency it provides us into the operations of the prominent and powerful: hypocrisy.

The Trump Administration’s declaration of war on whistleblowers and Wikileaks is one of the greatest disappointments in these first 100 days. Donald Trump rode into the White House with promises that he would “drain the swamp,” meaning that he would overturn the apple carts of Washington’s vested interests. By unleashing those same vested interests on those who hold them in check – the whistleblowers and those who publish their revelations – he has turned his back on those who elected him.

Julian Assange, along with the whistleblowers who reveal to us the evil that is being done in our name, are heroes. They deserve our respect and admiration, not a prison cell. If we allow this president to declare war on those who tell the truth, we have only ourselves to blame.



This is SO funny...  Mechanic is complaining that Trump has gone back on his word. He has lied, he has cheated. He has assaulted and he has acted treasonously.

and it takes THIS to get you to see his dark side?

the joke is on you.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by capitosinora on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:04am
Trump is typical real estate man. Someone told me there were three worst people around:
Real estate agents, Car dealers and lawyers (Some call them liars).

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Fireball on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:18pm

capitosinora wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Trump is typical real estate man. Someone told me there were three worst people around:
Real estate agents, Car dealers and lawyers (Some call them liars).


Yes, we have one of those little weasels on this site, thinks he's a Gropenfuhrer when he's in his own little world.......

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:19pm

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:58am:
Mechanic, in America right now a thread title like that would probably get you a college scholarship, if not a degree,.


They make you provide sources, Bogie.

You?

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:43am
it is entertaining watching the Trumpoids slowly lose confidence in the Idiot President.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:43am:
it is entertaining watching the Trumpoids slowly lose confidence in the Idiot President.


They can't say they weren't warned. All this was predicted: to the letter.

Now watch as Trump becomes the next George W Bush.

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:43am:
it is entertaining watching the Trumpoids slowly lose confidence in the Idiot President.


They can't say they weren't warned. All this was predicted: to the letter.

Now watch as Trump becomes the next George W Bush.



Trump would have to improve massively to be as good as GWB - who was not very good at all. But if it is any indicator of how bad trump is, it is that GWB looks not only good but very good in comparison. He might have been a policy dud, but at least he knew how to run a government competently. Trump cannot even do that!

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2017 at 2:11pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:43am:
it is entertaining watching the Trumpoids slowly lose confidence in the Idiot President.


They can't say they weren't warned. All this was predicted: to the letter.

Now watch as Trump becomes the next George W Bush.



Trump would have to improve massively to be as good as GWB - who was not very good at all. But if it is any indicator of how bad trump is, it is that GWB looks not only good but very good in comparison. He might have been a policy dud, but at least he knew how to run a government competently. Trump cannot even do that!


Bush had Cheney, who had served in two administrations.

Trump has Steve Bannon, who made movies about financial crisis and Sarah Palin.

Drain the swamp, no?

Title: Re: F***K you Trump... >:(
Post by Frank on Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:47am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:33am:

Quote:
CANDIDATE TRUMP: ‘I LOVE WIKILEAKS.’ PRESIDENT TRUMP: ‘ARREST ASSANGE!’

“I love Wikileaks,” candidate Donald Trump said on October 10th on the campaign trail. He praised the organization for reporting on the darker side of the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was information likely leaked by a whistleblower from within the Clinton campaign to Wikileaks.

Back then he praised Wikileaks for promoting transparency, but candidate Trump looks less like President Trump every day. The candidate praised whistleblowers and Wikileaks often on the campaign trail. In fact, candidate Trump loved Wikileaks so much he mentioned the organization more than 140 times in the final month of the campaign alone! Now, as President, it seems Trump wants Wikileaks founder Julian Assange sent to prison.

Last week CNN reported, citing anonymous “intelligence community” sources, that the Trump Administration’s Justice Department was seeking the arrest of Assange and had found a way to charge the Wikileaks founder for publishing classified information without charging other media outlets such as the New York Times and Washington Post for publishing the same information.

It might have been tempting to write off the CNN report as “fake news,” as is much of their reporting, but for the fact President Trump said in an interview on Friday that issuing an arrest warrant for Julian Assange would be, “OK with me.”
Trump’s condemnation of Wikileaks came just a day after his CIA Director, Michael Pompeo, attacked Wikileaks as a “hostile intelligence service.” Pompeo accused Assange of being “a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen.”

Pompeo’s word choice was no accident. By accusing Wikileaks of being a “hostile intelligence service” rather than a publisher of information on illegal and abusive government practices leaked by whistleblowers, he signaled that the organization has no First Amendment rights. Like many in Washington, he does not understand that the First Amendment is a limitation on government rather than a granting of rights to citizens. Pompeo was declaring war on Wikileaks.

But not that long ago Pompeo also cited Wikileaks as an important source of information. In July he drew attention to the Wikileaks release of information damaging to the Clinton campaign, writing, “Need further proof that the fix was in from President Obama on down?”

There is a word for this sudden about-face on Wikileaks and the transparency it provides us into the operations of the prominent and powerful: hypocrisy.

The Trump Administration’s declaration of war on whistleblowers and Wikileaks is one of the greatest disappointments in these first 100 days. Donald Trump rode into the White House with promises that he would “drain the swamp,” meaning that he would overturn the apple carts of Washington’s vested interests. By unleashing those same vested interests on those who hold them in check – the whistleblowers and those who publish their revelations – he has turned his back on those who elected him.

Julian Assange, along with the whistleblowers who reveal to us the evil that is being done in our name, are heroes. They deserve our respect and admiration, not a prison cell. If we allow this president to declare war on those who tell the truth, we have only ourselves to blame.



This is SO funny...  Mechanic is complaining that Trump has gone back on his word. He has lied, he has cheated. He has assaulted and he has acted treasonously.

and it takes THIS to get you to see his dark side?

the joke is on you.

It's actually Ron Paul complaining....
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/april/24/candidate-trump-i-love-wikileaks-president-trump-arrest-assange

Assange is no hero, a useful idiot uncle. He relied on a confused gay soldier to steal all those classified documents - s/he is now in jail, he is in virtual house arrest.

Stealing classified info IS a crime.

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