Twitter goes wild over reported death penalty for 'atheism' in Saudi Arabia

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Saudi Arabia has reportedly sentenced a young man to death for apostasy. The news has stirred up Twitter users, with some expressing sadness and sorrow, while others praised the move.
On Tuesday, a Saudi Arabian court dismissed an appeal from Ahmad Al Shamri, who had spent three years in prison over charges of “atheism and blasphemy,” the Exmuslim website reports.

Al Shamri was in his early 20s and lived the city of Hafr Al-Batin in the country’s Eastern Province, according to the website. He had reportedly renounced Islam and posted various videos reflecting his views on social media. The man was arrested in 2014, faced trial and was sentenced to death in February 2015.

The irony is that Saudi Arabia is a member of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).

is there any condemnation form the hypocritical UN????


no I didnt think so  he has been in jail for 3 years...its barbaric... and the silence is deafening


SHAME UN SHAME

They're a US ally. Untouchable.

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:33am:

They're a US ally. Untouchable.

“Men in Saudi Arabia have the authority to divorce their wives without going to the courts,” Trump said.

“I guess that would also mean they don’t need prenuptial agreements. The fact is, no courts, no judges—Saudi Arabia sounds like a very good place to get a divorce.”


http://countercurrentnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/trump-loves-rich-muslims.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

“Men in Saudi Arabia have the authority to divorce their wives without going to the courts,” Trump said. “I guess that would also mean they don’t need prenuptial agreements. The fact is, no courts, no judges—Saudi Arabia sounds like a very good place to get a divorce.”

Sounds like a good case of sarcasm. ;)

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 10:52am: “Men in Saudi Arabia have the authority to divorce their wives without going to the courts,” Trump said. “I guess that would also mean they don’t need prenuptial agreements. The fact is, no courts, no judges—Saudi Arabia sounds like a very good place to get a divorce.” Sounds like a good case of sarcasm. ;)

Here he is, being sarcastic again:


https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/screen-shot-2015-12-08-at-2-57-21-pm1.png

Dear oh dear.


https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/03/15/09/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-prince.jpg

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 10:52am: “Men in Saudi Arabia have the authority to divorce their wives without going to the courts,” Trump said. “I guess that would also mean they don’t need prenuptial agreements. The fact is, no courts, no judges—Saudi Arabia sounds like a very good place to get a divorce.” Sounds like a good case of sarcasm. ;)

What about Trumps dealings, comments about women, past history or general behaviour leads you think that was sarcasm?

Furthermore, do you find women's disadvantage amusing? Worth a laugh? Are you suggesting that Trump does?

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:33am:

They're a US ally. Untouchable.

For the slow learners at the back of the class:

"Following the meeting between President Trump and Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman this week, the White House suggested Saudi Arabia would remain a close consultant to Mr Trump".

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1493251664/5#5 date=1493255326]Here he is, being sarcastic again:
[/quote]


You can tell that from a photo? I think it is time to see your shrink, again.

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:17am:

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1493251664/5#5 date=1493255326]Here he is, being sarcastic again:

You can tell that from a photo? I think it is time to see your shrink, again.[/quote]

Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not?

You seem to be struggling to make up your mind.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:19am:

lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:17am: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1493251664/5#5 date=1493255326]Here he is, being sarcastic again: You can tell that from a photo? I think it is time to see your shrink, again.

Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not?

You seem to be struggling to make up your mind.

[/quote]


Lee seems to be arguing that Trump thinks women's disadvantage is humourous.

That's much better, isn't it.

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

What about Trumps dealings, comments about women, past history or general behaviour lead you think that was sarcasm?

What makes you think it wasn't? Perhaps if you had a youtube of it? Then you might make a case from tone of voice. But from printed words? Maybe you should join Greg and have a  group session. You may get a discount. ;)


mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

Furthermore, do you find women's disadvantage amusing? Worth a laugh? Are you suggesting that Trump does?

No, No.  and Who knows?

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:13am: What about Trumps dealings, comments about women, past history or general behaviour lead you think that was sarcasm? What makes you think it wasn't? Perhaps if you had a youtube of it? Then you might make a case from tone of voice. But from printed words? Maybe you should join Greg and have a  group session. You may get a discount. ;) mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:13am: Furthermore, do you find women's disadvantage amusing? Worth a laugh? Are you suggesting that Trump does? No, No.  and Who knows?

Well clearly, you are arguing he was just making a joke. Right?

I'm wondering how you think that is any better.

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:17am: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1493251664/5#5 date=1493255326]Here he is, being sarcastic again: You can tell that from a photo? I think it is time to see your shrink, again. Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not? You seem to be struggling to make up your mind.

Lee seems to be arguing that Trump thinks women's disadvantage is humourous.

That's much better, isn't it.[/quote]

Really?

I'll go back and take a second look, but I don't recall seeing anything resembling a coherent argument.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:19am:

Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not?

How did you tell he quote was not sarcastic? How did you determine that from the printed word? Some people may be interested.


greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:19am:

You seem to be struggling to make up your mind.

Determining inflection from the printed word is too difficult. I leave it to the more enlightened ones. ;)

Is this fake news?

It's hard to believe that someone can be put to death for not believing in a sky fairy.

Is it the same penalty for not believing in the Easter rabbit
or snow white & the 7 dwarfs?

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not? How did you tell he quote was not sarcastic? How did you determine that from the printed word? Some people may be interested. greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: You seem to be struggling to make up your mind. Determining inflection from the printed word is too difficult. I leave it to the more enlightened ones. ;)

Still waiting for your answer.

Was the question too difficult for you?

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:23am:

Well clearly, you are arguing he was just making a joke. Right?

Wrong again.

I don't know. You can't know. Greg can't know. You are interpreting something from the printed word, which doesn't provide inflection.

Is that so difficult to understand?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

Is this fake news? It's hard to believe that someone can be put to death for not believing in a sky fairy. Is it the same penalty for not believing in the Easter rabbit or snow white & the 7 dwarfs?

Hard to believe that anyone can be put to death for anything, Booby.

Tell me, why are your "arguments" for capital punishment better than anyone else's?

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not? How did you tell he quote was not sarcastic? How did you determine that from the printed word? Some people may be interested. greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: You seem to be struggling to make up your mind. Determining inflection from the printed word is too difficult. I leave it to the more enlightened ones. ;)

Now, now Lee. It was you who made the claim he was being sarcastic.

How do you know?

Either he was being sarcastic or he wasn't. Agreed?

One one hand he was finding humour in the disadvantage of women (your argument, which you seem to be backing away from now) ... on the other he was being literal.

Which is it, Lee?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:27am:

lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not? How did you tell he quote was not sarcastic? How did you determine that from the printed word? Some people may be interested. greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: You seem to be struggling to make up your mind. Determining inflection from the printed word is too difficult. I leave it to the more enlightened ones. ;) Still waiting for your answer. Was the question too difficult for you?

Yes, The question is too difficult. How did you determine his inflection from printed word? That should be the question.

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:27am: lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not? How did you tell he quote was not sarcastic? How did you determine that from the printed word? Some people may be interested. greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: You seem to be struggling to make up your mind. Determining inflection from the printed word is too difficult. I leave it to the more enlightened ones. ;) Still waiting for your answer. Was the question too difficult for you? Yes, The question is too difficult. How did you determine his inflection from printed word? That should be the question.

Yet it was you who made the claim that he was being sarcastic.

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:27am: lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:25am: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: Well, which is it: is he being sarcastic or not? How did you tell he quote was not sarcastic? How did you determine that from the printed word? Some people may be interested. greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:19am: You seem to be struggling to make up your mind. Determining inflection from the printed word is too difficult. I leave it to the more enlightened ones. ;) Still waiting for your answer. Was the question too difficult for you? Yes, The question is too difficult. How did you determine his inflection from printed word? That should be the question.

I didn't: you did, remember?

lee: "Sounds like a good case of sarcasm."

So, how did you determine that?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:26am: Is this fake news? It's hard to believe that someone can be put to death for not believing in a sky fairy. Is it the same penalty for not believing in the Easter rabbit or snow white & the 7 dwarfs? Hard to believe that anyone can be put to death for anything, Bobby. Tell me, why are your "arguments" for capital punishment better than anyone else's?

Here is a clue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jill_Meagher

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:32am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:29am: Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:26am: Is this fake news? It's hard to believe that someone can be put to death for not believing in a sky fairy. Is it the same penalty for not believing in the Easter rabbit or snow white & the 7 dwarfs? Hard to believe that anyone can be put to death for anything, Booby. Tell me, why are your "arguments" for capital punishment better than anyone else's? Here is a clue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jill_Meagher

I don't want a clue.

I want you to explain to everyone why you think that your reasons for capital punishment are better than someone else's reasons.

Is the question too difficult for you, Booby?

Islam in Saudi Arabia is PURE Islam, devoid of any progressive western values.

Saudi Arabian style Islam is being foisted on the entire Muslim world in a big way, including Indonesia and even in Australia.

Check this out.

Malek Fahd Islamic School was opened in October 1989 with one campus in Greenacre. The purchase of the land for the school was secured through a $12 million gift from King Fahd of Saudi Arabia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malek_Fahd_Islamic_School

Gordon wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

Islam in Saudi Arabia is PURE Islam, devoid of any progressive western values. Saudi Arabian style Islam is being foisted on the entire Muslim world in a big way, including Indonesia and even in Australia. Check this out. Malek Fahd Islamic School was opened in October 1989 with one campus in Greenacre. The purchase of the land for the school was secured through a $12 million gift from King Fahd of Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malek_Fahd_Islamic_School

"Pure Islam"? I think many, many millions of Muslims would disagree with you.

Gordon wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:37am:

Islam in Saudi Arabia is PURE Islam, devoid of any progressive western values. Saudi Arabian style Islam is being foisted on the entire Muslim world in a big way, including Indonesia and even in Australia. Check this out. Malek Fahd Islamic School was opened in October 1989 with one campus in Greenacre. The purchase of the land for the school was secured through a $12 million gift from King Fahd of Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malek_Fahd_Islamic_School

Do you "think" that might be why Mr Trump loves the Saudis so much?

http://images.al-monitor.com/almpics/2017/03/RTX30ZWC.jpg/RTX30ZWC-570.jpg

capitosinora wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:07am:

Twitter goes wild over reported death penalty for 'atheism' in Saudi Arabia https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/5900803dc46188637a8b45e5.jpg Saudi Arabia has reportedly sentenced a young man to death for apostasy. The news has stirred up Twitter users, with some expressing sadness and sorrow, while others praised the move. On Tuesday, a Saudi Arabian court dismissed an appeal from Ahmad Al Shamri, who had spent three years in prison over charges of “atheism and blasphemy,” the Exmuslim website reports. Al Shamri was in his early 20s and lived the city of Hafr Al-Batin in the country’s Eastern Province, according to the website. He had reportedly renounced Islam and posted various videos reflecting his views on social media. The man was arrested in 2014, faced trial and was sentenced to death in February 2015. The irony is that Saudi Arabia is a member of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).

All muslims face Mecca in Saudi Arabia when they pray.

The Saudi constitution says gods book (quran) and the Sunnah of his prophet are the constitution.

Quote:

If somebody a muslim discrads his religion, kill him. Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226

The morally bankrupt retarded leftists like little pecca and mothra defend this belief that executes people for thought crimes, they claim to have no religion yet stick up for a religion that routinely executes atheists.

Of course they will never condemn the Islamic death penalty for atheists they deflect to Trump while ignoring the fact he never bowed down to the Saudi king and kissed his arse like Obama did.

I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron.

As do a great many Muslims.

You're going to have to do better than that.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:58am:

capitosinora wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 10:07am: Twitter goes wild over reported death penalty for 'atheism' in Saudi Arabia https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/5900803dc46188637a8b45e5.jpg Saudi Arabia has reportedly sentenced a young man to death for apostasy. The news has stirred up Twitter users, with some expressing sadness and sorrow, while others praised the move. On Tuesday, a Saudi Arabian court dismissed an appeal from Ahmad Al Shamri, who had spent three years in prison over charges of “atheism and blasphemy,” the Exmuslim website reports. Al Shamri was in his early 20s and lived the city of Hafr Al-Batin in the country’s Eastern Province, according to the website. He had reportedly renounced Islam and posted various videos reflecting his views on social media. The man was arrested in 2014, faced trial and was sentenced to death in February 2015. The irony is that Saudi Arabia is a member of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC). All muslims face Mecca in Saudi Arabia when they pray. The Saudi constitution says gods book (quran) and the Sunnah of his prophet are the constitution. Quote: If somebody a muslim discrads his religion, kill him. Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226 The morally bankrupt retarded leftists like little pecca and mothra defend this belief that executes people for thought crimes, they claim to have no religion yet stick up for a religion that routinely executes atheists. Of course they will never condemn the Islamic death penalty for atheists they deflect to Trump while ignoring the fact he never bowed down to the Saudi king and kissed his arse like Obama did.

I don't support capital punishment, under any circumstances.

What else you got?

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:31am:

Yet it was you who made the claim that he was being sarcastic.

Actually, I didn't. I said "it sounds like".

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:31am: Yet it was you who made the claim that he was being sarcastic. Actually, I didn't. I said "it sounds like".

So which is it? Sarcastic? Which is finding humour in the disadvantage of women ... or literal?

Which are you defending, Lee?

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:58am:

capitosinora wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 10:07am: Twitter goes wild over reported death penalty for 'atheism' in Saudi Arabia https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/5900803dc46188637a8b45e5.jpg Saudi Arabia has reportedly sentenced a young man to death for apostasy. The news has stirred up Twitter users, with some expressing sadness and sorrow, while others praised the move. On Tuesday, a Saudi Arabian court dismissed an appeal from Ahmad Al Shamri, who had spent three years in prison over charges of “atheism and blasphemy,” the Exmuslim website reports. Al Shamri was in his early 20s and lived the city of Hafr Al-Batin in the country’s Eastern Province, according to the website. He had reportedly renounced Islam and posted various videos reflecting his views on social media. The man was arrested in 2014, faced trial and was sentenced to death in February 2015. The irony is that Saudi Arabia is a member of the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC). All muslims face Mecca in Saudi Arabia when they pray. The Saudi constitution says gods book (quran) and the Sunnah of his prophet are the constitution. Quote: If somebody a muslim discrads his religion, kill him. Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226 The morally bankrupt retarded leftists like little pecca and mothra defend this belief that executes people for thought crimes, they claim to have no religion yet stick up for a religion that routinely executes atheists. Of course they will never condemn the Islamic death penalty for atheists they deflect to Trump while ignoring the fact he never bowed down to the Saudi king and kissed his arse like Obama did.

I unconditionally condemn the death penalty for atheists.

Further to that, I unconditionally condemn all capital punishment.

Looks like this isn't going to be the day that you get something right.

Oh dear   :'(

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that.

7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend.

The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:32am:

I didn't: you did, remember? lee: "Sounds like a good case of sarcasm." So, how did you determine that?

Like you I jumped to a conclusion. ;)

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:31am: Yet it was you who made the claim that he was being sarcastic. Actually, I didn't. I said "it sounds like".

Oh dear, here we go.


https://thatreallyawesomeblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/backpedaling.jpg

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that.

A lot better.

He won't, though.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights.

Which only shows that the majority of Muslim majority countries do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not?

And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights.

I unconditionally condemn the death penalty for atheists.

Furthermore, I unconditionally condemn all capital punishment.

What about you?

No - I didn't think so.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hypocrite

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

So which is it? Sarcastic? Which is finding humour in the disadvantage of women ... or literal? Which are you defending, Lee?

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:28am:

Wrong again. I don't know. You can't know. Greg can't know. You are interpreting something from the printed word, which doesn't provide inflection. Is that so difficult to understand?

Didn't get it the first time?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

Oh dear, here we go.

Jumping to conclusions, again. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:06pm: So which is it? Sarcastic? Which is finding humour in the disadvantage of women ... or literal? Which are you defending, Lee? lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 11:28am: Wrong again. I don't know. You can't know. Greg can't know. You are interpreting something from the printed word, which doesn't provide inflection. Is that so difficult to understand? Didn't get it the first time?

So you are arguing that either he was being sarcastic, therefore finding humour in the disadvantage of women OR he was being literal.

What would we do without you?

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:13pm:

So you are arguing that either he was being sarcastic, therefore finding humour in the disadvantage of women OR he was being literal. What would we do without you?

You could try not trying to put words in my mouth. ;)

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights. Which only shows that the majority if Muslim majority do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not? And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it.

Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian.

Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option.
Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan

Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution.

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:14pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:13pm: So you are arguing that either he was being sarcastic, therefore finding humour in the disadvantage of women OR he was being literal. What would we do without you? You could try not trying to put words in my mouth. ;)

But i'm not Lee. These are the only two options.

You have said that it sounds like sarcasm to you, meaning that you think Trump finds humour in the disadvantage of women.

I just wonder why you think that is any better?

You certainly worded it like a defense.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights. Which only shows that the majority if Muslim majority do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not? And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it. Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution.

I think someone needs to google something other than thereligionofpeace.

What's an atheist or two matter? They killed 3000 people on 911, and got away with it. The thing is, for them its about God, and for us its about money. The secular West cannot do anything about it, but they can undermine our system with finance and immigrants.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/19/investing/saudi-arabia-threat-dump-us-assets-911-bill/

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:16pm:

But i'm not Lee. These are the only two options. You have said that it sounds like sarcasm to you, meaning that you think Trump finds humour in the disadvantage of women.

Really? Is sarcasm finding humour?

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:16pm: But i'm not Lee. These are the only two options. You have said that it sounds like sarcasm to you, meaning that you think Trump finds humour in the disadvantage of women. Really? Is sarcasm finding humour?

You're getting desperate now, Lee.

mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:22pm:

lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:21pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:16pm: But i'm not Lee. These are the only two options. You have said that it sounds like sarcasm to you, meaning that you think Trump finds humour in the disadvantage of women. Really? Is sarcasm finding humour? You're getting desperate now, Lee.

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mothra wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights. Which only shows that the majority if Muslim majority do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not? And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it. Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. I think someone needs to google something other than thereligionofpeace.

The Islamic texts say kill those who leave Islam so the Saudis chop their heads off and the Shia in Iran have been hanging them since the 1979 Islamic revolution, this is the Islam you support.

Try reading the Islamic texts $Profit Mo said kill those who leave Islam which shows Islam is first and foremost a political ideology.
Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:18pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights. Which only shows that the majority if Muslim majority do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not? And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it. Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. I think someone needs to google something other than thereligionofpeace. The Islamic texts say kill those who leave Islam so the Saudis chop their heads off and the Shia in Iran have been hanging them since the 1979 Islamic revolution, this is the Islam you support. Try reading the Islamic texts $Profit Mo said kill those who leave Islam which shows Islam is first and foremost a political ideology. Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226

And every forum member here condemns it, unconditionally.

Good to know, ey?

lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:16pm: But i'm not Lee. These are the only two options. You have said that it sounds like sarcasm to you, meaning that you think Trump finds humour in the disadvantage of women. Really? Is sarcasm finding humour?

You're asking a feminist to find humour in something - not gonna happen!

... wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

lee wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:21pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:16pm: But i'm not Lee. These are the only two options. You have said that it sounds like sarcasm to you, meaning that you think Trump finds humour in the disadvantage of women. Really? Is sarcasm finding humour? You're asking a feminist to find humour in something - not gonna happen!

I find humour in a great many things, Honky. You, for instance.

I do not, however, find humour in the disadvantage of women.

You probably do though. I understand.

Of course I do. 

We owe a huge debt of gratitude to comedians for toeing the line, pushing the limits of tolerance by poking fun at the absurdity of our sacred cows. 

You'd better grow a sense of humour real quick, because theres nothing more absurd right now than western feminism. 

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:06pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:18pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights. Which only shows that the majority if Muslim majority do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not? And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it. Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. I think someone needs to google something other than thereligionofpeace. The Islamic texts say kill those who leave Islam so the Saudis chop their heads off and the Shia in Iran have been hanging them since the 1979 Islamic revolution Mo said kill those who leave Islam which shows Islam is first and foremost a political ideology. Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226 Good to know, ey?

I guess you and Mothra would say atheists in Saudi Arabia and Iran are Islamophobic.

... wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 7:57pm:

Of course I do.  We owe a huge debt of gratitude to comedians for toeing the line, pushing the limits of tolerance by poking fun at the absurdity of our sacred cows.  You'd better grow a sense of humour real quick, because theres nothing more absurd right now than western feminism.

Yes of course you do. Your opinions on women are well known.

That's why you like Donald Trump so much. He "speaks" for you.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:34pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 6:06pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:18pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm: mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:01pm: I condemn the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, absolutely unconditionally Baron. As do a great many Muslims. You're going to have to do better than that. 7 countries with Islam as the state religion have the death penalty for atheists, this is the religion that executes people for thought crimes that you and little pecca are so keen to defend. The death penalty for atheists shows Islam is not compatible with human rights try reading article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Of course muslims have their Cairo Declaration of Human Rights the last 2 articles in that show Sharia Law trumps human rights. Which only shows that the majority if Muslim majority do not have the death penalty for apostasy, does it not? And would you like me to tell you that i don't defend it again? You appear not to have understood the many other times i've said it. Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. I think someone needs to google something other than thereligionofpeace. The Islamic texts say kill those who leave Islam so the Saudis chop their heads off and the Shia in Iran have been hanging them since the 1979 Islamic revolution Mo said kill those who leave Islam which shows Islam is first and foremost a political ideology. Sunnah.com/bukhari/56/226 Good to know, ey? I guess you and Mothra would say atheists in Saudi Arabia and Iran are Islamophobic.

Guessing hasn't got you very far in the past.

Seems strange that you would continue along that path to failure.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution.

How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us.

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us.

What about all those Gold Coast residents who are about to have Gordy living so close - how do you think they feel?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 8:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us.

It should not be scary, if the Federal Government recognised them as our sworn enemy. The most indecent betrayal of Australian values by the government was the way the went cap in hand to Jakarta when their military leader and Islamist cut of military co-operation. Our government should have taken the opportunity to draw a line in the sand.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 10:33am: They're a US ally. Untouchable. For the slow learners at the back of the class: "Following the meeting between President Trump and Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman this week, the White House suggested Saudi Arabia would remain a close consultant to Mr Trump".

Just wondering if Trump is a puppet of a Deep State or Deep corruption.
Probably both.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:17pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us. What about all those Gold Coast residents who are about to have Gordy living so close - how do you think they feel?

Two lovely Australian women discuss
how men should beat their wives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZ-Yuti-Xs

capitosinora wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 10:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:17pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us. What about all those Gold Coast residents who are about to have Gordy living so close - how do you think they feel? Two lovely Australian women discuss how men should beat their wives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZ-Yuti-Xs

Two, out of 1.8 billion.

Anyone know what percentage that is?    :-/

issuevoter wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 7:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:17pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us. It should not be scary, if the Federal Government recognised them as our sworn enemy. The most indecent betrayal of Australian values by the government was the way the went cap in hand to Jakarta when their military leader and Islamist cut of military co-operation. Our government should have taken the opportunity to draw a line in the sand.

There is no doubt -

Indonesia wants Australia to be under Sharia law.

They would invade us tomorrow if they thought they could get away with it.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 11:32am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 7:33am: Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:17pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 12:15pm: Apostates are persecuted worldwide thanks to Islam, most atheists have to pretend to be muslim to escape this persecution.I don't know any atheists who have to pretend to be Christian. Even moderate Indonesia persecutes people for thought crimes like atheists, on their identity cards atheist is not an option. Alexander Aan was bashed and jailed for being atheist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Aan Only the morally bankrupt could defend a belief like Islam that routinely executes atheists, Iran didn't execute atheists before the 79 Islamic revolution. How scary to have 250 million crazy Muslims living so close to us. It should not be scary, if the Federal Government recognised them as our sworn enemy. The most indecent betrayal of Australian values by the government was the way the went cap in hand to Jakarta when their military leader and Islamist cut of military co-operation. Our government should have taken the opportunity to draw a line in the sand. There is no doubt - Indonesia wants Australia to be under Sharia law. They would invade us tomorrow if they thought they could get away with it.

The issues are not so simple. 

First of all, the USA wants Australia to remain a good ally of Indonesia, to fend off progression of communist in South East Asia.  This had been ongoing since post world war 2.  You need to look up the history to find out the specifics. 

Secondly, Indonesia is an ally of Saudi Arabia, which remain an ally of USA.  President Trump have business interest there, and many past presidents have ties to petrolium companies which have ties to Saudi Arabia. 

Thirdly, Australia need USA on board for strategic defense. 

Fourthly, we cannot draw the line in the sand with both Indonesia and China.  We just simply do not have the economy, the military or the population to do such.