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Message started by Leftwinger on May 15th, 2017 at 9:08pm

Title: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 15th, 2017 at 9:08pm
PREMIER Mark McGowan has launched his much touted commission of inquiry into spending on a suite of projects started by the previous Barnett Government.

The inquiry, to be headed up by former Under Treasurer John Langoulant, will investigate 26 projects commissioned by the former government, including Elizabeth Quay and public housing in the Pilbara.

Mr McGowan said taxpayers had a right to know where the money went.

“The Liberals and Nationals refused to answer simple questions about how taxpayers’ money was being spent. They oversaw massive cost blowouts on projects like the Muja power station and the Serco contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital,” he said.

“We need to get to the bottom of these deals and the Commission of Inquiry will answer these questions.

“It will bring a high level of scrutiny, transparency and accountability to a series of decisions and projects of the former government.”

The inquiry will report before the end of October and is expected to cost $1.5 million.

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Post by Leftwinger on May 15th, 2017 at 9:11pm
What a mess they have left the state in

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Bam on May 15th, 2017 at 9:18pm
It could get worse for the Liberals if the Commission of Inquiry finds any misappropriation of taxpayers' funds.

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Post by Leftwinger on May 16th, 2017 at 3:34am
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2017/feb/20/one-more-time-wa-liberals-groove-to-daft-punk-at-2017-campaign-launch-video

:-?

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 16th, 2017 at 7:13am
Wonder how many libtards will have to retire disgraced when mighty McGowan's enquiry starts digging ?

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Post by Leftwinger on May 16th, 2017 at 7:20am

Its time wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
PREMIER Mark McGowan has launched his much touted commission of inquiry into spending on a suite of projects started by the previous Barnett Government.

The inquiry, to be headed up by former Under Treasurer John Langoulant, will investigate 26 projects commissioned by the former government, including Elizabeth Quay and public housing in the Pilbara.

Mr McGowan said taxpayers had a right to know where the money went.

“The Liberals and Nationals refused to answer simple questions about how taxpayers’ money was being spent. They oversaw massive cost blowouts on projects like the Muja power station and the Serco contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital,” he said.

“We need to get to the bottom of these deals and the Commission of Inquiry will answer these questions.

“It will bring a high level of scrutiny, transparency and accountability to a series of decisions and projects of the former government.”

The inquiry will report before the end of October and is expected to cost $1.5 million.


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Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 16th, 2017 at 2:47pm
Can't keep the smile off my face  :)

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by juliar on May 16th, 2017 at 4:54pm
Fairly meaningless really as do nothing Labor "govts" frequently launch inquiry after inquiry until there needs to be an inquiry into the inquiries.

Basically it is an excuse to do nothing. Gillard did it and Qld's Anny Pally does it.

Essentially the imposter WA Laborious "govt" is trying to look for an excuse to blame the Libs for the mining downturn as they now have no money coming in and WA is heading towards becoming the Poverty State.

The imposter Labor "govt" is slowly realizing they grabbed a poisoned chalice which the Libs were glad to hand over.

Now the Libs will wait while the imposter Labor "govt" stuffs everything up and WA will beg the Libs to take over and try to clean up the unholy mess. And Labor will get blamed for everything.

You will know things are getting really grim if the WA Labor starts following SA Labor down the road to ruin and starts installing 1000's of useless Greenie windymills and blackouts the state.

And you can imagine how crook things are over there as WA is the meth capital of Australia.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 16th, 2017 at 5:05pm
Actually, Howard and abbott did it.

But Barnett was exceptionally wasteful so there really is a need for an enquiry. Rudd really should have called one into Howard’s reckless spending.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by juliar on May 16th, 2017 at 5:18pm
But MM the real purpose of the imposter Labor doing an inquiry is to try to blame the Libs for everything when it was the mining downturn that pulled the rug from under WA.

Now the imposter Labor "govt" has no money to do anything so they are trying to blame someone anyone even China.

Maybe they should open up a coal mine and sell to India like Qld is doing to earn some money ?

Perhaps they could steal the spent nuclear dump idea from SA ?

Now if the  Libs were spending the mining boom income on infrastructure then that is good govt ?

WA is heading towards becoming the Poverty State.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by John Smith on May 16th, 2017 at 5:23pm

juliar wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
But MM the real purpose of the imposter Labor doing an inquiry is to try to blame the Libs



libs are still blaming labor 5 yrs after winning office ya nong

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 16th, 2017 at 5:33pm

juliar wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
But MM the real purpose of the imposter Labor doing an inquiry is to try to blame the Libs for everything when it was the mining downturn that pulled the rug from under WA.

Now the imposter Labor "govt" has no money to do anything so they are trying to blame someone anyone even China.

Maybe they should open up a coal mine and sell to India like Qld is doing to earn some money ?

Perhaps they could steal the spent nuclear dump idea from SA ?

Now if the  Libs were spending the mining boom income on infrastructure then that is good govt ?

WA is heading towards becoming the Poverty State.


If you had a brain you would know much was wrong in the “boom state.”

Utilities charges rose 700% in not many years at all. Barnett subsidised the bloody miners, why? Then all the vanity projects, mismanagement etc.

YouLiar is obviously thinking of the abbott com. of audit. YouLiar is incapable of thinking.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by lee on May 16th, 2017 at 7:05pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
Utilities charges rose 700% in not many years at all.



Got a link for that? ;)

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Post by Jovial Monk on May 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm
This was years ago. Try Mr Google.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by lee on May 16th, 2017 at 7:07pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
This was years ago. Try Mr Google.


Given your propensity for mistruths; NO. ;)

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm
Bulldust. Utility charges did go up 700% in not many years after Barnett became Premier. Scoff if you must it changes nothing.

Cheap to call me a liar, but you make unsupported statements all the time. You are a liar for real, the worst kind of liar, one who lies to himself.

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Post by stunspore on May 16th, 2017 at 8:36pm
This is why you can't keep libs in government. 

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by lee on May 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Bulldust. Utility charges did go up 700% in not many years after Barnett became Premier. Scoff if you must it changes nothing.

Cheap to call me a liar, but you make unsupported statements all the time. You are a liar for real, the worst kind of liar, one who lies to himself.


So you must be able to provide proof. ;)

You are the one called yourself a liar.

Colin Barnett Premier 2008 to 2017


Electricity 2009 – 2012 – 21.9%
Water 2009 - 2012  - 69%
Gas – 2009 – 2012 – 17%

http://www.wacoss.org.au/StateElection2013/ElectionFactsheets.aspx
Electricity ~ 27% increase 2013 -2017

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/electricity-bills-to-increase-to-2000-a-year-by-2016/news-story/b71022817d87eea4e132c50d5b74c11f


Water ~25% increase 2013 - 2017

About 160% without gas. That gas price must have exploded. ;)

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Rhino on May 16th, 2017 at 10:10pm

juliar wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
Bb
Now if the  Libs were spending the mining boom income on infrastructure then that is good govt ?

WA is heading towards becoming the Poverty State.
But they werent. And west Australians want to know where the mining royalties went because it sure wasnt on infrastructure. Personally i think the inquiry by Mcgowan is going to ultimately result in jail terms for official corruption for many members of the Barnett government and cronies. There been fraud on a massive scale, that much is obvious.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 16th, 2017 at 10:10pm
Well, you could find some facts.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Rhino on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm

lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Bulldust. Utility charges did go up 700% in not many years after Barnett became Premier. Scoff if you must it changes nothing.

Cheap to call me a liar, but you make unsupported statements all the time. You are a liar for real, the worst kind of liar, one who lies to himself.


So you must be able to provide proof. ;)

You are the one called yourself a liar.

Colin Barnett Premier 2008 to 2017


Electricity 2009 – 2012 – 21.9%
Water 2009 - 2012  - 69%
Gas – 2009 – 2012 – 17%

http://www.wacoss.org.au/StateElection2013/ElectionFactsheets.aspx
Electricity ~ 27% increase 2013 -2017

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/electricity-bills-to-increase-to-2000-a-year-by-2016/news-story/b71022817d87eea4e132c50d5b74c11f


Water ~25% increase 2013 - 2017

About 160% without gas. That gas price must have exploded. ;)

From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).


Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 16th, 2017 at 10:22pm
I suspect Royalties for Regions had something to do with the soaring utility prices.

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Post by lee on May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm

rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. ;)


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Post by Rhino on May 16th, 2017 at 11:08pm

lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. ;)
So its not 700 percent. No one can deny costs have increased enormously under Barnetts government, eclipsing the CPI. What happened to the mining royalties? This should be a non partisan argument.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Ye Grappler on May 17th, 2017 at 12:47am
I trust that is the golden pineapple - in Queenslund, on the other hand, there are two major occupations - banana benders and pineapple rougheners.... both have phallic implications as their entire focus of being, which fits well with many Queenslunders....

Only in Queenslund can you have a study/survey that gives the result that ONLY 52% of people drink alcohol to get drunk... the rest drink it to stay sober, it seems....

Free Beer at the Officer's Mess!  (anyone catch that one?)...

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Post by Ye Grappler on May 17th, 2017 at 12:53am

rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:08pm:

lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. ;)
So its not 700 percent. No one can deny costs have increased enormously under Barnetts government, eclipsing the CPI. What happened to the mining royalties? This should be a non partisan argument.



Unfortunately it can't be a bi-partisan argument - since the name of the game is blame laying and not resolution and learning from past mistakes.

Why waste money playing the blame game as the Libs did with their Commission Of Idiots, when what needs to be looked at is the realities of here and now, and putting past mistakes into perspective?

Lots of that blame-gaming here and in politics.... so instead of learning from such failures in the past as Howard's profligate spending of a boom, and Hawke's sabotage of industrial relations and thus the balance of power between worker and slave owner ... all we get is more and more of the same - and nothing changes.

I had an older brother who had psychiatric issues - I very early learned that fighting over something never resolves it - it only puts it into simmer mode until it erupts again.... and again.. and again....

I would never follow an oldest in the family or a single child.. anywhere.... they WILL get you killed...

This is what is happening with politics in this nation - endless arguing over already dead meat....

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by juliar on May 17th, 2017 at 7:10am
Tsk Tsk!!  The old clumsy MM has tripped himself up again by just copying rubbish from Lefty Propaganda Sites that the paw soal doesn't understand.

One thing is certain, if MM says something you know the opposite is the TRUTH - what a typical Leftie.

WA was running on the income from the mining and when the mining downturn happened WA was left with no income which is what is stuffing the imposter Labor"govt" up now and they are trying to blame someone anyone.

The imposter Labor "govt" has been given a poisoned chalice and the Libs are smiling as they prepare to clean up the mess in 3 years or less.

Wonder if Pauline will bring the imposter Labor "govt" down in the WA Senate by using her Senate seats ?

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 17th, 2017 at 7:38am
Wonder how many of the remaining 6 or 7 libtards will retired disgraced from enquiry findings , licking my lips in anticipation .

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Post by juliar on May 17th, 2017 at 7:39am
Now a welcome change from MM's Lefty Propaganda - learn what is REALLY HAPPENING over there in the meth capital of Aust.

Things is grim and gunna get grimmer under the imposter Labor "govt".





Why WA is falling behind the rest of Australia
Vetti Kakulas news.com.au January 23, 20176:46pm


The WA mining boom is over and the state is struggling, which is a shame, because Perth is lovely.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA was once a booming, rich, mining state. A place where FIFO workers earned big bucks, lived in mansions, drove luxury cars and rode jet skis on their weeks off.

Now the heyday is over and the former mining and construction workers are struggling to find work.

WA’s job market is bleak to say the least, according to the latest Australian Bureau of Statistics figures.

Fulltime jobs for West Australians have been hard to come by for the last 24 months, falling from 958,300 in December 2014 to 902,200 in December 2016. This means WA has averaged a loss of 2945 fulltime jobs a month.

Meanwhile there was a slight improvement in WA’s unemployment rate — dropping from 6.9 per cent to 6.6 per cent for December.

But according to former chief economist at ANZ and Bank of America Saul Eslake those figures can be deceiving.

“When the mining industry expands people move over from the eastern states,” he told news.com.au.

“Something that tends to dampen how far the unemployment rate rises is when people go home after the boom is over, they might be unemployed in NSW or Victoria.”

People are leaving the state at a rapid rate.

There were more departures than arrivals in WA for 2014-15, which has seen Perth’s rent and housing prices plummet.

In fact house prices have been dropping in Perth for seven consecutive quarters now, with prices now matching what they were in early 2013.


You can still get a character filled house like this right in the middle of Perth’s CBD for less than a $1 million. Picture: Realestate.com.auSource:Supplied

And in more bad news Mr Eslake expects WA’s job market to get worse this year and said it will be harder to find fulltime work.

SO WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?

Most of these fulltime jobs came from the boom time days, mid-2000s, where FIFO workers arrived in droves to get their hand on hefty salaries paid by mining heavyweights like Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton and Fortescue Metals Group.

China was experiencing an economic boom and spending big on building infrastructure, where steel or iron ore is a key ingredient.

The iron ore price surged to an average $US187.18 a tonne in February 2011, and the big iron ore players ramped up production.

That’s where the old adage “all good things come to an end” rings true and later on that year the price went on a downhill spiral.

WA Premier Colin Barnett blamed BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto for the low iron ore prices saying they were “flooding the market.”

Last year the iron ore price was hovering around the $US50-60 mark.

Consequently, there’s been more than 20,000 fulltime jobs shed in the past two years in WA mining.

And Rio Tinto plans to axe a further 500 employees before the March WA Election.

In the oil and gas sector, it’s a similar case.

The companies hire 1000s of workers during a project’s construction phase, but once they’re operating and in full-swing that number drops down to the 100’s.

A good example is Chevron’s Gorgon project, which went into production in March 2016.

The US energy giant employed around 6500 workers during the construction phase of the Barrow Island project — now that number has declined to about 350.

“The reality is the boom is over and WA’s past the peak of the boom and the respite on prices that’s been seen since doesn’t eliminate it,” Mr Eslake said.

“If iron ore and other commodity prices stay at the levels they’ve reached at recent days for any length of time there might be some respite.”

The price of iron ore reached a two year high of more than $US83 a tonne on Monday.

THE SOLUTION

Workforce diversity specialist Conrad Liveris said WA must create 1500 jobs a month to maintain the current unemployment rate.

“WA needs to look at different industries, healthcare creates about 50,000 jobs each year nationally, WA has the capacity to lead on that,” he said.

“It needs to focus on where its advantages lie — agriculture, health, higher education and trade or services.

“Barnett’s tourism push won’t lead to more fulltime jobs, they are likely to be seasonal and part-time.”


When it comes to tourism, WA has natural wonders (like Rottnest Island) in spades. But tourism is seasonal. Picture: Jessica O'BreeSource:Supplied


The sad story of WA the state plunging into poverty under an imposter Labor "govt" continues overleaf

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Post by juliar on May 17th, 2017 at 7:39am
The sad story of WA the state plunging into poverty under an imposter Labor "govt" continues...


There could be further job losses if WA’s Labor Party wins the State Election in March.

Leader Mark McGowan plans to axe the $1.6 billion Perth Freight Link Project, which includes the Roe 8 extension.

Mr Barnett said the project employs, directly and indirectly, more than 3000 West Australians.

The Chamber of Commerce and Industry WA wants payroll tax to be addressed. The annual threshold is $850,000 and the industry group said its hurting businesses and preventing new jobs.

“The majority of WA businesses are small and medium sized businesses, so it’s critical WA is in a place where SMEs can succeed,” CCIWA chief executive Deidre Willmott said.

“Businesses tell CCI they’re putting a stop to employing more workers to prevent their business from being slugged with another tax.”

Mr Eslake said successive WA Governments should have been holding off on spending during the mining boom and had a “future fund.”

“This is why the State Government is appealing for approval to sell the poles and wires, which will create some money to be spent on infrastructure.

“WA can diversify its economy by branching out into other things, tourism is the most obvious one.”

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/why-wa-is-falling-behind-the-rest-of-australia/news-story/fd2a897e4305a5c5a6fe811cd013e3e7




A sign of the times in WA the State of Poverty


Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 7:46am
Without a mining boom WA is doing it tough, doesn’t matter Lib or Labor. BUT Libs were in power in the boom years and should have built up a strong position. Instead the Libs built up debt and wasted boom revenue. Bit like that idiot Howard.

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Post by juliar on May 17th, 2017 at 8:08am
And the old MM stutters and mutters trying to change the subject - then he is a Lefty.

Now learn just what a calamitous mess the imposter WA Labor "govt" is really facing - a true poisoned chalice!!!

It is fascinating to see a Labor govt picking up a mess because Labor normally picks up an economy in good shape and then proceeds to reduce it to ruins.

How can Labor reduce ruins to more ruins ? One thing is for sure - Labor can do it!!!

Now here is the interesting bit from this article - read the full basket case in the LINK.





Five sectors that could drive WA's economy after the mining boom
David Allan-Petale March 3 2017

The state election is approaching fast and the future of WA's economy after the mining boom is the big issue.

This week, to spark a conversation about our state's future, WAtoday explored five sectors that could grow and be our new economic drivers if they are given the right backing - tourism, the arts, technology, education and agriculture.

We heard from industry leaders about what they want and need from our state's leaders to thrive, whoever is in charge.


Part one: Life beyond mining

The economy is the fundamental issue for WA - and whoever wins the day on March 11 will inherit a complex economic riddle and be tasked - even forever defined - with how they address it.

The mining sector has shed thousands of jobs and just entered its second consecutive period of contraction. Perth's CBD has gone from hosting the head offices of 45 iron ore mining companies in 2012 to just 18 in 2017, and vacancy rates are at 25.2 per cent - a 25-year peak.

WA's unemployment rate is the worst in the nation at 6.5 per cent, and the resource royalties hitting the state's coffers totalled $4.6 billion in 2015–16, a decline of 21 per cent on 2014–15 brought about by falling commodity prices.


Perth sprawls over hundreds of kilometers, creating its unique set of infrastructure issues. Photo: Stefan Gosatti



Mining boom to bust

Y Research's Damian Stone reckons WA needs to take a deep breath and ask this question - what do we want to be?

"Mining will always be there. But beyond that, are we a tourism hub? The new food bowl of Asia? The boarding school of the region? The new Silicon Valley of technology start ups?

"Once we determine our place in the world, the government and private sector need to work together."

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/wa-election-2017/five-sectors-that-could-drive-was-economy-after-the-mining-boom-20170303-guqarl.html




A common sight around poverty stricken Perth - when will the Chinese snap up the bargains ?


Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 8:09am
So YouLiar admits the Libs left WA in a mess! That is progress.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by juliar on May 17th, 2017 at 8:15am
Paw old MM just cannot admit the TRUTH - it was the mining downturn that pulled the rug from under WA.

Now MM will probably mutter and stutter that somehow the Libs caused the mining downturn which is what WA Labor is trying to do.

MM now aren't you gunna explain how the NeverBuiltNetwork would have saved WA ?

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 8:20am
No, it was not the mining downturn! It was the Barnett govt not taking steps to meet the inevitable downturn from a boom! Debt and deficit, sky high utility charges!

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by juliar on May 17th, 2017 at 8:27am
Now leaving MM's vacuous blabbering copied from some wacko Lefty Propaganda Site.

What has happened to reduce WA to the state of poverty and meth ?





From boom to bust in Western Australia
Australian politics Andrew Martin 05 December 2016


Vroom Vroom no more

The investment phase of one of the biggest mining booms in world history continues to wind down. Tens of thousands of jobs were shed from the industry in the two years after the boom’s peak in 2013. Earlier this year, National Australia Bank predicted 50,000 more would be lost as investment continues to decline over the coming two or three years.

The center of the boom, Western Australia, is now reeling. The state has lost 64,000 jobs, and unemployment is 6.5 percent – a steep rise from a 4.5 percent average over the past decade and now the highest in the country.

A walk through Perth past high rise apartments and imposing city office blocks gives a stark reminder of the many opportunities lost: high rates of homelessness, mental illness and growing listlessness among unemployed youth are immediately apparent. The end of the boom portends a bleak future for workers here.

Regional towns are decaying. Unused railway tracks criss-cross the wheat belt while roads have been left to deteriorate. Increasing rates of suicide, substance abuse and road accidents scar the lives of teenagers in rural areas. With the exception of some select areas frequented by tourists, rural towns increasingly look like places from the rust belt of the US. The Pilbara has been especially hard hit. One shire president told the ABC in March: “We’re pretty much devastated … families are just packed up and gone within a month. Empty houses everywhere”.

Boom times
The boom was largely driven by Chinese demand for iron ore and coal. The scale of the mining expansion was unprecedented. Australia racked up an extra US$1 trillion in exports over a 10-year period; $300 billion was added to government revenues. The price of iron ore reached an astounding $180 per tonne. The dividends to the mining companies were so large that the ALP Rudd-Gillard government called them “super-profits”.

In 2000, the total value of bulk commodity exports (hydrocarbons, minerals and metals) was just under $45 billion, according to BIS Shrapnel figures. By 2012, the figure had more than quadrupled to $188 billion. Huge engineering works dramatically increased the capacity of the mines as companies invested in infrastructure that hadn’t been substantially improved in decades. The Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics estimates that nearly $360 billion was spent on expansion projects.

This boom fuelled a massive expansion of new housing stock as people migrated to WA in search of work. Perth housing was growing at 70,000 a year by 2012. Median house prices in the hot, dusty and remote town of Port Hedland peaked in 2013 at $925,000. Wages grew at the peak of the boom at almost 5 percent per year.

Grand theft
The development of WA has long been shaped by its vastness, its isolation, its mineral wealth and its integration into the global economy through exports of primary commodities. Larger than Western Europe, it lacks the same integration with the national economy as other states. It is the most parochial state, with sentiments of secession rising during the mining boom. State premiers forever play to feelings of Western Australian exceptionalism.

A handful of plutocratic tycoons such as Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest and Gina Reinhart exert considerable influence over state political affairs. Along with Sam Walsh, CEO of Rio Tinto, and Marius Kloppers of BHP, they were instrumental in getting rid of the federal Labor government’s proposed Resource Super-Profit Tax, spending $22 million in six weeks on a PR campaign that toppled the leadership of Kevin Rudd.

With the federal ALP government caving to mining magnates, the rich did very well. According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the total pre-tax profits earned by mining firms operating in Australia were more than $51 billion in 2009-10. So how much tax did they pay? The Australian Institute estimated that the effective corporate tax rate of mining companies was only 13.9 percent, well below the average of 21 percent.

It’s estimated that total government subsidies to mining corporations reached $10 billion a year – including such things as discounted or free water and electricity and rebates on diesel fuel, all of which they use in colossal quantities. There are lax environmental regulations and very little scrutiny of the impact of mining. The construction of airports, roads and other infrastructure associated with housing the mining workforce is often done at state expense.

The companies also receive direct government investment in research and development and geological mapping. On top of that they claim accelerated depreciation on all their assets and receive tax write-offs for capital works. To say mining companies enjoy generous tax deductions would be a great understatement.

Read the FULL sad story of boom to bust in WA here and BE INFORMED - unlike MM

https://redflag.org.au/node/5618

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 8:33am

juliar wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:27am:
Now leaving MM's vacuous blabbering copied from some wacko Lefty Propaganda Site.

What has happened to reduce WA to the state of poverty and meth ?

You can leave the personal attacks out thank you!

The Libs obviously thought the boom would last forever and had no thought for the inevitable downturn. They also hiked utility costs severely, costing WA residents dearly! Despite all that they reduced WA to beggary.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 17th, 2017 at 8:37am
Buck stops with the incompetent corrupt libtard government

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by stunspore on May 17th, 2017 at 8:38am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:33am:

juliar wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:27am:
Now leaving MM's vacuous blabbering copied from some wacko Lefty Propaganda Site.

What has happened to reduce WA to the state of poverty and meth ?

You can leave the personal attacks out thank you!

The Libs obviously thought the boom would last forever and had no thought for the inevitable downturn. They also hiked utility costs severely, costing WA residents dearly! Despite all that they reduced WA to beggary.


Yeh - you note the following rules:
Do not post personal criticism of other members. Do not respond to personal criticism of yourself or other members. This is the biggest problem on OzPolitic. Too many members are easily baited into off-topic personal exchanges. If you participate in any kind of flame war you will be suspended, regardless of who started it or who you think ‘deserved it’.

Juliar does it every time.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 8:42am
YouLiar does it because it just copies and pastes without understanding.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 8:43am
Next time YouLiar resorts to ad homs it will be reported!

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 17th, 2017 at 9:01am
The libs implemented a scheme where those in cabinet could claim on a personal car as well as getting ferried around in a comcar , mighty Mcgowan put a stop to that blatant libtard waste , well done Mark , doing your best to get the state out of the debt and deficit disaster left by 8 years of corrupt inept rabble

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Bam on May 17th, 2017 at 11:02am

juliar wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 7:39am:
Now a welcome change from MM's Lefty Propaganda - learn what is REALLY HAPPENING over there in the meth capital of Aust.

Things is grim and gunna get grimmer under the imposter Labor "govt".


Why WA is falling behind the rest of Australia
Vetti Kakulas news.com.au January 23, 2017 6:46pm

Article from when the Liberals were in office.


juliar wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 7:39am:
The sad story of WA the state plunging into poverty under an imposter Labor "govt" continues...

There could be further job losses if WA’s Labor Party wins the State Election in March.

Article from when the Liberals were in office.


juliar wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:08am:
Now here is the interesting bit from this article - read the full basket case in the LINK.

Five sectors that could drive WA's economy after the mining boom
David Allan-Petale March 3 2017

Article from when the Liberals were in office.

I have not seen such a spectacular case of someone shooting themselves in the feet for a long time. All these articles really do is point out just how much of a basket case the WA economy was in before the Liberals were voted out.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 11:08am
Exactly, WA had a boom but did not profit from it. Now it is in deep chit—but all this was under the incompetent Barnett govt!

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Bam on May 17th, 2017 at 11:25am

Its time wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 9:01am:
The libs implemented a scheme where those in cabinet could claim on a personal car as well as getting ferried around in a comcar , mighty Mcgowan put a stop to that blatant libtard waste , well done Mark , doing your best to get the state out of the debt and deficit disaster left by 8 years of corrupt inept rabble

It's not just Western Australia.

Since Abbott won the 2013 Federal election, the Coalition parties have been haemorrhaging seats in parliaments around the country. They have declined from 476 seats to 367 seats, losing 109 seats or 23% of their seats. Labor has picked up 99 of these seats to move from 272 to 371 seats.

The only gains the Coalition parties have made in that time were a handful of seats in South Australia and Tasmania, gaining government in the latter. In all other jurisdictions they have lost seats. They lost government in three states and the Northern Territory, three of which were devastating defeats with massive loss of seats and two of them embarrassing defeats after holding government for a single term. WA Liberals lost one third of their primary vote. The CLP in the NT could hold party meetings in a phone box with room to spare.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 17th, 2017 at 11:37am

Bam wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Its time wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 9:01am:
The libs implemented a scheme where those in cabinet could claim on a personal car as well as getting ferried around in a comcar , mighty Mcgowan put a stop to that blatant libtard waste , well done Mark , doing your best to get the state out of the debt and deficit disaster left by 8 years of corrupt inept rabble

It's not just Western Australia.

Since Abbott won the 2013 Federal election, the Coalition parties have been haemorrhaging seats in parliaments around the country. They have declined from 476 seats to 367 seats, losing 109 seats or 23% of their seats. Labor has picked up 99 of these seats to move from 272 to 371 seats.

The only gains the Coalition parties have made in that time were a handful of seats in South Australia and Tasmania, gaining government in the latter. In all other jurisdictions they have lost seats. They lost government in three states and the Northern Territory, three of which were devastating defeats with massive loss of seats and two of them embarrassing defeats after holding government for a single term. WA Liberals lost one third of their primary vote. The CLP in the NT could hold party meetings in a phone box with room to spare.


:) Going to be some long faces from team rtard in 2019

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by lee on May 17th, 2017 at 12:05pm

rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:08pm:

lee wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm:

rhino wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
From your link
Electricity
From April 2009 household electricity tariffs have risen by 10.95cents/unit or 78.55%. Of this
increase the carbon price added only 2.255cents/unit (accounts for 9% of a unit of electricity).
er generation and transmission and by reducing the subsidy paid by others.
Water
Since 2005/06 water usage costs for a household consuming Perth’s residential average level of
water has more than tripled3
, from $161.79/year (2005/06) to $410.04/year (2012/13).



Now make that 700%.

Try the data from page 2, of the link.

"Cost of Living (Utilities) FactSheet"

Note also the water charges date from 2005/6. before Barnett was elected. ;)
So its not 700 percent. No one can deny costs have increased enormously under Barnetts government, eclipsing the CPI. What happened to the mining royalties? This should be a non partisan argument.


That was JM's claim. ;) I guess he misread something again.
So the water charges appear to have been mostly under Labor, That's ok. Desalination  plants aren't cheap.

Now that we have Labor back in we can see what happens to utility prices.

"Household power prices could rise by more than 7 per cent from the middle of the year under the new WA Labor Government, with Energy Minister Ben Wyatt saying he could not rule out a hike of that size."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-27/wa-could-see-power-price-increase-under-new-labor-government/8390070

7% is more than the cpi.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 12:36pm
No, I read that 700% figure and in more than one publication.

Regardless—huge increase in utilities yet still the govt is broke and just after a boom too!

Very incompetence by the Barnett govt. Nothing put away for the end of the boom and the state is reduced to trying to get more GST before the formula would give it more.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by lee on May 17th, 2017 at 12:46pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
No, I read that 700% figure and in more than one publication.

Regardless—huge increase in utilities yet still the govt is broke and just after a boom too!

Very incompetence by the Barnett govt. Nothing put away for the end of the boom and the state is reduced to trying to get more GST before the formula would give it more.


Yeah. The dog ate your homework again. ;)

Let's hold fire until we see what the McGowan budget is.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by stunspore on May 17th, 2017 at 1:16pm
A question is how is the current WA government "imposter"?  Is it illegal and needs to be reported to the AEC? 

Certain coalition supporters being sour grapes?

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by juliar on May 18th, 2017 at 7:48am
Gee the Lefties like to dish out the poster bashing but Gee don't they flare up when they get some of their own back.

It is just good old political correctness which is simply a Lefty device to try to stop discussion.

I attract VENOM AND HATE because I can present the TRUTH just TOO effectively.

But I don't take the Lefties' VENOM and HATE personally as I realize this is just a blog site where some get riled up and sort of lash out.

The Lefties can freely throw their worst at me without any fear of me ever complaining.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Jovial Monk on May 18th, 2017 at 7:59am
You post obvious and childish Lib propaganda then can never defend it when it gets pulled apart. Kindergarten stuff, YouLiar!

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by stunspore on May 18th, 2017 at 9:10am

juliar wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 7:48am:
Gee the Lefties like to dish out the poster bashing but Gee don't they flare up when they get some of their own back.

It is just good old political correctness which is simply a Lefty device to try to stop discussion.

I attract VENOM AND HATE because I can present the TRUTH just TOO effectively.

But I don't take the Lefties' VENOM and HATE personally as I realize this is just a blog site where some get riled up and sort of lash out.

The Lefties can freely throw their worst at me without any fear of me ever complaining.


It looks like Juliar can't respond to why WA government is considered an imposter government - why it shouldn't be reported to AEC and have fresh elections.

As for hiding behind political correctness - these are the rules for this forum as stated in the "rules" section.  Does juliar elect not to adhere to these conditions? 

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Fireball on May 18th, 2017 at 10:30am

Its time wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Can't keep the smile off my face  :)


A sure sign of an idiot.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Leftwinger on May 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm

Fuzzball wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 10:30am:

Its time wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Can't keep the smile off my face  :)


A sure sign of an idiot.


Explains the avatar

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Rhino on May 18th, 2017 at 12:54pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:36pm:


Regardless—huge increase in utilities yet still the govt is broke and just after a boom too!

Very incompetence by the Barnett govt. Nothing put away for the end of the boom and the state is reduced to trying to get more GST before the formula would give it more.
Yep.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Rhino on May 18th, 2017 at 12:56pm

lee wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
No, I read that 700% figure and in more than one publication.

Regardless—huge increase in utilities yet still the govt is broke and just after a boom too!

Very incompetence by the Barnett govt. Nothing put away for the end of the boom and the state is reduced to trying to get more GST before the formula would give it more.




Let's hold fire until we see what the McGowan budget is.
we already know everything will rise with increased taxes. Someone has to pay for it. I actually have little sympathy for West Australians, they knew Barnett was sending the state broke yet voted him in with an increased majority.

Title: Re: WA libtards to get pineapple
Post by Rhino on May 18th, 2017 at 12:57pm

Its time wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:

Fuzzball wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 10:30am:

Its time wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Can't keep the smile off my face  :)


A sure sign of an idiot.


Explains the avatar
theres no winners in WA except Barnetts corrupt cronies.

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