This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

yes.

I vote to ban islam

Is it even referendum worthy? 

The bureaucrats in immigration seem to be a law unto themselves - just issue a directive that applications from moslem countries and moslem-sounding names are to be rejected, or at least given the lowest priority, or they'll face the sack.  Too easy. 

We won't have to worry about Islam & it's extremists

when our stupid greedy politicians hand over control to the Chinese.

Ask former Minister for Trade old Andrew Rob what it's like to be a stinking LNP sellout.

The Chinese wouldn't tolerate what he has done by one of their own.

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Rhino, there's a reason why these little fantasies your lot have about banning muslim immigration never get up. And its not because of a leftist, progressive conspiracy to silence you. Its because the vast majority of people think its completely ridiculous. How many polls of the public supporting muslims and muslim immigration will it take to convince you?

Maybe should SUPPORT a Moslem 'individual' and empower him to denounce his 'people' for their terrorism sins.

Sadly, when you play a TEAM sport and 5 of your players are guilty for biting & gauging - the whole team suffers and is penalised.

So, until Moslems have a 'stand alone' individual who can play a sport like Golf or Tennis and take 'SELF RESPONSIBILITY'...

...NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED.

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Hear hear!

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  What a shame, yet more Islamophobia on display.  Makes me wonder why I even bother to read these threads.  Perhaps its hope there might be some intelligence on display?  Yet all I see, time after time, is more Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this?

You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood.

No, thank you.

Everythings friggin "dangerous" to you people, except somehow, the actualdangerous things.

Marxism - the most murderous ideology of all time is not just given a pass, but actively encouraged, thereby enabling the importation of Islam, which has an unbroken history of death and destruction and is a top 5 all-time killer.

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you.

Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable.

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable.

Until the creation of the United Nations gave coloured people the ability to criticise whites, particularly whites who are busy criticising South Africa for apartheid...

The White Australia Policy was a creation of 19th century "racial" thinking.   It has no place in modern society.   We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one.  There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes.  It is why we can all interbreed with one another.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one.  There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes.  It is why we can all interbreed with one another.

Oh god, not this idiocy again.

Once again, I'll just refer to the fact that all dogs are the same species and these two dogs can intrebreed.

https://www.petinfoclub.com/Images/Chihuahua%20and%20great%20dane%20shutterstock_2783537-1.jpg

Genetics doesnt have one rule for animals and one for humans. 

You cant keep trotting out these non-sequiturs, they don't support your argument.

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

What a load of crap....The Indonesian President would no doubt take exception at being banned and repercussions from Muslim countries would be swift and devastating to our economy....The OPEC nations which are predominately Muslim would no doubt take exception harming out imports and exports....Pure racist clap trap from racist individuals who promote hate like those they condemn....There is also the added problem of alienating Muslims who are already here and make the problem worse....Pity we could not have a referendum on banning stupidity!!!

::) ::) ::)

There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749 - 1832)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 5:47pm: Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable. Until the creation of the United Nations gave coloured people the ability to criticise whites, particularly whites who are busy criticising South Africa for apartheid... The White Australia Policy was a creation of 19th century "racial" thinking.   It has no place in modern society.   We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one.  There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes.  It is why we can all interbreed with one another.   ::)

We arevall of the same genetic make up, we agree on this.
But its not what we are that matters, its what we do.
Who cares what colour they are, it matters not
But when someone of any colour decides to harm another, to disrupt the civilized people or threaten normal law abiding people, then their actions are NOT ACCEPTABLE.

One group over all others, in every country does just that.
Crime, rape, murder, pedophile marriage, terorism, FGM, all are part of this CULT

Australia over the years has welcomed many many races and religions from all over the world.
These people have come to our country and assimilated, contributed and generally enhanced our lifestyle and culture.

Then this CULT comes to our country
It brings with it insults, barbaric practices, crime and terrorism.
This CULT has no intention of changing their ways.
They expect, no, DEMAND that we respect them while they show nothing but disrespect for our country and culture.
Every single country infected by this cult suffers
It citizens are subjected to this primitive CULTs influence and horrors.

The time has come.
This CULT must either respect and adapt to civilization.
Or
Leave for a country that accepts its barbaric and primitive practices.

WE MUST DEMAND A REFERENDUM

WE MUST DEMAND THAT OUR HAND WRINGING POLITICIANS GET OFF THEIR COLLECTIVE BUTTS AND ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

This CULT does not mix with civilized, modern and human people.

Let it exist where it can bear the fruits of its disgusting existence elsewhere.

Valkie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:09pm: rhino wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 5:47pm: Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable. Until the creation of the United Nations gave coloured people the ability to criticise whites, particularly whites who are busy criticising South Africa for apartheid... The White Australia Policy was a creation of 19th century "racial" thinking.   It has no place in modern society.   We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one.  There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes.  It is why we can all interbreed with one another.   ::) We arevall of the same genetic make up, we agree on this. But its not what we are that matters, its what we do. Who cares what colour they are, it matters not But when someone of any colour decides to harm another, to disrupt the civilized people or threaten normal law abiding people, then their actions are NOT ACCEPTABLE. One group over all others, in every country does just that. Crime, rape, murder, pedophile marriage, terorism, FGM,

Men.

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 4:59pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you.

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries.

They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist.

Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists.

It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None.

Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'.


Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

Sunni Muslims. Total ban.
Shia on a strict vetting process.
Ahmadiyya totally welcome.

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries. They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist. Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists. It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None. Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'. Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

Readers are invited to give examples of any improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc. given to us by Frank.

Anybody?  Anybody?

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries. They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist. Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists. It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None. Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'. Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

Here you go Frank....

http://www.australia.gov.au/about-australia/australian-story/afghan-cameleers

::) ::) ::)

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable.

And you know what the best part of the joke of that was? It excluded millions of British subjects based on the colour of their skin.

Quote:

All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries. They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist. Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists. It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None. Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'. Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

I'm willing to meet you in the centre here by supporting an Australian values test for citizenship. I might even be willing to support a cut-back on refugees, but if that's the case it has to be across the board - all countries; we shouldn't discriminate based on race or culture, which means that if a white Zimbabwean farmer wants asylum, he/she can't have it.

It's either no one has the right or everyone has the right. You can't pick and choose.

Gordon wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Sunni Muslims. Total ban. Shia on a strict vetting process. Ahmadiyya totally welcome.

So when you say 'Muslim', does that also include Muslims who are French citizens? Or do you mean refugees from Muslim-majority countries?

Auggie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:34pm: Sunni Muslims. Total ban. Shia on a strict vetting process. Ahmadiyya totally welcome. So when you say 'Muslim', does that also include Muslims who are French citizens? Or do you mean refugees from Muslim-majority countries?

What is the difference between a French Muslim and a Pakistani Muslim? A refugee Muslim or a convert Muslim?



What's the difference between a French, German, Chinese or Indonesian Nazi? Communist?

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:34pm: Sunni Muslims. Total ban. Shia on a strict vetting process. Ahmadiyya totally welcome. So when you say 'Muslim', does that also include Muslims who are French citizens? Or do you mean refugees from Muslim-majority countries? What is the difference between a French Muslim and a Pakistani Muslim? A refugee Muslim or a convert Muslim? What's the difference between a French, German, Chinese or Indonesian Nazi? Communist?

Because immigration policy is based on country of origin, not race or religion. Citizens from France can travel to Australia on visa-waver programme as we can to there. If we start excluding their citizens, then they'll start excluding ours.

I don't know about you, but I liked Paris.

... wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:09pm: We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one.  There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes.  It is why we can all interbreed with one another. Oh god, not this idiocy again.

Disprove what I have stated, Honky.  Otherwise, piss off with your stupidity.   Genetics is what makes us what we are.   We all share the same genetic pool, it is what makes us human beings.   It is what allows us to interbreed with each other, no matter what "race" we are.   Time you caught up with the 21st century, like the rest of us, thinking, intelligent, human beings.  Oh, that's right, you don't qualify on the first two parts, do you?   ::)

Valkie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:09pm: rhino wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 5:47pm: Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. Rubbish. The so called white Australia policy was quite workable. Until the creation of the United Nations gave coloured people the ability to criticise whites, particularly whites who are busy criticising South Africa for apartheid... The White Australia Policy was a creation of 19th century "racial" thinking.   It has no place in modern society.   We are all human beings, we are all from the only race, the human one.  There is no Genetic difference between humanity, no matter where it exists, we all share the same genes.  It is why we can all interbreed with one another.   ::) We arevall of the same genetic make up, we agree on this. But its not what we are that matters, its what we do. Who cares what colour they are, it matters not But when someone of any colour decides to harm another, to disrupt the civilized people or threaten normal law abiding people, then their actions are NOT ACCEPTABLE. One group over all others, in every country does just that. Crime, rape, murder, pedophile marriage, terorism, FGM, all are part of this CULT Australia over the years has welcomed many many races and religions from all over the world. These people have come to our country and assimilated, contributed and generally enhanced our lifestyle and culture. Then this CULT comes to our country It brings with it insults, barbaric practices, crime and terrorism. This CULT has no intention of changing their ways. They expect, no, DEMAND that we respect them while they show nothing but disrespect for our country and culture. Every single country infected by this cult suffers It citizens are subjected to this primitive CULTs influence and horrors. The time has come. This CULT must either respect and adapt to civilization. Or Leave for a country that accepts its barbaric and primitive practices. WE MUST DEMAND A REFERENDUM WE MUST DEMAND THAT OUR HAND WRINGING POLITICIANS GET OFF THEIR COLLECTIVE BUTTS AND ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. This CULT does not mix with civilized, modern and human people. Let it exist where it can bear the fruits of its disgusting existence elsewhere.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries. They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist. Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists. It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None. Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'. Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc.

When Christians take responsibility for the Christians that commit Terrorism, Soren, you may have a point.  Until then, you're as usual, just pissing in the wind.  Enjoying getting wet?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries. They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist. Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists. It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None. Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'. Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc. When Christians take responsibility for the Christians that commit Terrorism, Soren, you may have a point.  Until then, you're as usual, just pissing in the wind.  Enjoying getting wet?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Show us one single Christian terrorist act that Christians disowned. Just one, mong. One.
SHow us evidence of how the Christians did not own up to it.

Go on, Bwian Munchausen, here's your chance to prove your point. Can you do it?

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:43pm: Frank wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Auggie wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm: rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. Terribel idea, Rhino. You want alienate how many thousands of Australian citizens who are Muslims by doing this? You know what, Rhino? This is the slippery slope to tribalism and a closed-country, which is dangerous. We've been down this road before and was soaked the earth in blood. No, thank you. All we hear after every Muslim terrorist attack is how alienated Muslims are despite being given every right and opportunity in Western countries. They pay us back by waging jihad and by NOT reigning in their jihadist. Time to withdraw rights and opportunities from them. There is no right to being an enemy of your country, there is no right to be a jihadists. It is madness to import more when the ones already here are reluctant to fit in. It's not like Islam is an improvement on any society, let alone any Western society - it is in every aspect a degradation and a negative in every Western society with no positive improvement to offer. None. Islam is not bringing anything good to Western societies, only strife, division, antagonism, separateness and terrorism - the stuff that many Muslims are fleeing from in the 'Muslim lands'. Readers are invited to give examples of any Islamic improvement to Western societies, culture, laws, politics, culture, civilisation, etc. When Christians take responsibility for the Christians that commit Terrorism, Soren, you may have a point.  Until then, you're as usual, just pissing in the wind.  Enjoying getting wet?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Show us one single Christian terrorist act that Christians disowned. Just one, mong. One. SHow us evidence of how the Christians did not own up to it. Go on, Bwian Munchausen, here's your chance to prove your point. Can you do it?

Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.   The Troubles in Northern Ireland.   The establishment of the modern Jewish state in Palestine.   How about you talk about those events, Soren?  Hey?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:40pm:

Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

What exactly is wrong with fearing Islam, Brian?  It's a batsh!t crazy and violent creed. you must be mad not to fear it. You show signs of being seriously Islamic, I fear you. Would be mad not to.

You show me signs that you think Islam is batsh!t crazy then I don't care if you were born a Muslims, you have evolved.

Apostates are welcome. They have shown personal independence.
Devout Muslims - keep them out.

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm: Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) What exactly is wrong with fearing Islam, Brian?  It's a batsh!t crazy and violent creed. you must be mad not to fear it. You show signs of being seriously Islamic, I fear you. Would be mad not to. You show me signs that you think Islam is batsh!t crazy then I don't care if you were born a Muslims, you have evolved. Apostates are welcome. They have shown personal independence. Devout Muslims - keep them out.

Poor Frank. Hiding under his doona.

Can we all spare a moment to think of him?

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm: Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) What exactly is wrong with fearing Islam, Brian?  It's a batsh!t crazy and violent creed. you must be mad not to fear it. You show signs of being seriously Islamic, I fear you. Would be mad not to. You show me signs that you think Islam is batsh!t crazy then I don't care if you were born a Muslims, you have evolved. Apostates are welcome. They have shown personal independence. Devout Muslims - keep them out. Poor Frank. Hiding under his doona. Can we all spare a moment to think of him?

  I feel sorry for you Mothra- you have so shiit on your liver-, that you have to come here to let it out, with your passive aggressiveness-  you do yourself a terrible disservice with these types of comments- you attract negative energy to yourself- vicious circle

Toxins now.

Well i never.

Sounds fair - what is a democracy, after all, if not the will of the people?

Mind you,there are precedents..... you may not persecute Jews etc... for example.... but in terms of immigration, surely this is a discretionary matter and entirely dependent on the host country, with a potential recruitment resource of sixty million ......... ChoiceMobile, son, that's what it's all about....

Argh - many a Sudanese Christian or Coptic Egyptian would be happy to take a place, rather than the likes of the Butcher of Brighton or Mad Man Monis....... or maybe we could import some moderate and educated Iranians etc....

Just saying.......

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 11:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm: Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) What exactly is wrong with fearing Islam, Brian?  It's a batsh!t crazy and violent creed. you must be mad not to fear it. You show signs of being seriously Islamic, I fear you. Would be mad not to. You show me signs that you think Islam is batsh!t crazy then I don't care if you were born a Muslims, you have evolved. Apostates are welcome. They have shown personal independence. Devout Muslims - keep them out.

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You fear it, Soren because you refuse to understand that it is made up of people, ordinary people just like me or you who just happen to believe a different set of beliefs to you.  You fear it because some of those people interpret their religion in a particularly violent way but you don't fear Christians who interpret their religion in a similar way, for some reason.  You can see past those Christians but your can't see past the violent Islamists.  You refuse to see past them because you're an Islamophobe.

I'd recommend that you actually find some ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims and sit down and learn some realistic facts about Islam and how it operates for most people.  It might humanise you a bit more, if you can overcome your irrational fear of Muslims.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 12:49am:

Frank wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm: Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) What exactly is wrong with fearing Islam, Brian?  It's a batsh!t crazy and violent creed. you must be mad not to fear it. You show signs of being seriously Islamic, I fear you. Would be mad not to. You show me signs that you think Islam is batsh!t crazy then I don't care if you were born a Muslims, you have evolved. Apostates are welcome. They have shown personal independence. Devout Muslims - keep them out. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg You fear it, Soren because you refuse to understand that it is made up of people, ordinary people just like me or you who just happen to believe a different set of beliefs to you.  You fear it because some of those people interpret their religion in a particularly violent way but you don't fear Christians who interpret their religion in a similar way, for some reason.  You can see past those Christians but your can't see past the violent Islamists.  You refuse to see past them because you're an Islamophobe. I'd recommend that you actually find some ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims and sit down and learn some realistic facts about Islam and how it operates for most people.  It might humanise you a bit more, if you can overcome your irrational fear of Muslims.    ::)

How many Christians are CURRENTLY viewing their religious beliefs in a violent way?

What national identities are CURRENTLY Christian and are attacking any of a different belief system?

What discrete national identities are CURRENTLY persecuting unto death Muslims within their borders?*

Ideals are peaceful - history is violent.....

"1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion "

If it comes to them or us - which side do you choose?  Their grand-children ... or yours?


* You've previously said that Muslims are persecuted in Australia.... Please Explain?

On matters of principle I back you - on your ground zero ideas dragged from the depths of books .... go thine own way in peace.....

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 12:49am:

Frank wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:52pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 7th, 2017 at 11:40pm: Valkie, your Islamophobia is boring as bat poo.  You were doing well, until you decided to condemn 1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion you don't share with them.  The overwhelming majority also only share a religious name with the Islamist Terrorists.   They don't interpret their religion the same way.   That is what enrages the Islamists more than anything else.  That is why they kill their co-religionists.   Western deaths are just a tactic, to drive their co-religionists to them.  You are actually doing what the Islamists want by expressing your hatred for Islam and Muslims.   Are you proud to be doing that, working for the Islamists so tirelessly?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) What exactly is wrong with fearing Islam, Brian?  It's a batsh!t crazy and violent creed. you must be mad not to fear it. You show signs of being seriously Islamic, I fear you. Would be mad not to. You show me signs that you think Islam is batsh!t crazy then I don't care if you were born a Muslims, you have evolved. Apostates are welcome. They have shown personal independence. Devout Muslims - keep them out. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg You fear it, Soren because you refuse to understand that it is made up of people, ordinary people just like me or you who just happen to believe a different set of beliefs to you.  You fear it because some of those people interpret their religion in a particularly violent way but you don't fear Christians who interpret their religion in a similar way, for some reason.  You can see past those Christians but your can't see past the violent Islamists.  You refuse to see past them because you're an Islamophobe. I'd recommend that you actually find some ordinary, everyday, moderate Muslims and sit down and learn some realistic facts about Islam and how it operates for most people.  It might humanise you a bit more, if you can overcome your irrational fear of Muslims.    ::)

I CAN see and hear Muslims on our street and on our TV and radio who speak for entirely negative, regressive Islamic things and they speak as if these were improvements.


I have been asking you for a long time - what exactly is wrong with hating Islam? I cannot think of a single positive improvement that Islam has brought to the West.

Tell me just one improvement that Islam has brought.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 12:49am:

You fear it, Soren because you refuse to understand that it is made up of people, ordinary people just like me or you who just happen to believe a different set of beliefs to you.

That is the depth of wilful ignorance and stupidity, Brian.
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People like this are NOT ordinary, they are NOT like me and they most certainly don't just HAPPEN to believe different things. 

Things in your head and heart may well be totally accidental and random, Brian,  but actual ordinary people like me have a large degree of agency about what they believe and what they don't believe.

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People like this are NOT ordinary, they are NOT like me and they most certainly don't just HAPPEN to believe different things.  Things in your head and heart may well be totally accidental and random, Brian,  but actual ordinary people like me have a large degree of agency about what they believe and what they don't believe.

Can you define for me what an 'ordinary' person is, Frank?

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Tell me just one improvement that Islam has brought.

Why does it have to 'bring anything?' If we acknowledge that modern liberal values have created unprecedented freedom, prosperity and happiness to people, then why do we want other people 'to bring something with them' when what we have already is the best?

The fact is that in terms of civil, political and social institutions, no other culture or society can match ours (and by that I mean those institutions based on the British model). HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that they can't bring things that are better in other respects, such as: food, culture, traditions, family values, etc. Please be mindful of these two distinctions.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2017 at 1:04am:

How many Christians are CURRENTLY viewing their religious beliefs in a violent way?

No idea.  Some, without a doubt.  The ones who act on their fears of Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/Misogyny/etc.


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What national identities are CURRENTLY Christian and are attacking any of a different belief system?

Those that are engage in war against Muslims?
Those that are engage in wars against Women/Gays/Gypsies/etc?


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What discrete national identities are CURRENTLY persecuting unto death Muslims within their borders?*

None that I am aware of.  How many do you think?


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Ideals are peaceful - history is violent..... "1.6 billion human beings for believing in a religion " If it comes to them or us - which side do you choose?  Their grand-children ... or yours?

Neither because it will never be a case of "them or us".   Not all Muslims are Islamists, not all Christians are Islamophobes.   I support the centre, not either extreme.  How about you, Grappler, do you think all Muslims and all Christians are violent hateful towards each other?


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* You've previously said that Muslims are persecuted in Australia.... Please Explain?

"Persecution" can take many forms, ranging from calling a Muslim a "towel-head" through to killing someone.    Low level persecution appears to be quite active in some places, like Sydney and Melbourne.   Not many as far as I can tell have died as a consequence but I read all the promotions of violence, hatred and radicalisation of Muslims here and I wonder, I really do.


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On matters of principle I back you - on your ground zero ideas dragged from the depths of books .... go thine own way in peace.....

What "ground zero ideas dragged from the depths of books" are you talking about?    ::)

If its such a peaceful CULT.
Why not have a referendum.

Give those of the CULT the opportunity to demonstrate, prove and put forward tgeir case that they are peaceful and benificial to Australia.

Let them prove their ability to seamlessly intergrate into civilized society.

Let them prove that they are not tge primitive barbarians we see every day.

Then, give us the chance to discuss and put forward our questions.
Without the screams of islamaphobia
Without the cries of racism
Without the violent protests by those of the cult calling for beheading and murder.

An open discussion.
Where the truth shall be spoken.

Then we can have a true referendum.

OR DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NO CASE.
THAT THEY ARE PARASITES THAT TAKE BUT DO NOT GIVE
THAT TGEY DO NOT MIX OR BECOME CIVILIZED.

This is the feal reason you condemn a referendum, you know the result.
Just like the gays.
They know what the outcome woukd be, so they refuse to allow the masses to speak.

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 1:04am: How many Christians are CURRENTLY viewing their religious beliefs in a violent way? No idea.  Some, without a doubt.

WITH serious doubt - until they start actually ACTING on those 'violent' beliefs.

A very long way to go to catch up with the Muslims who have never ceased acting on their violent beliefs.

If its such a peaceful CULT.
Why not have a referendum.

Give those of the CULT the opportunity to demonstrate, prove and put forward their case that they are peaceful and beneficial to Australia.

Let them prove their ability to seamlessly integrate into civilized society.

Let them prove that they are not the primitive barbarians we see every day.

Then, give us the chance to discuss and put forward our questions.
Without the screams of islamaphobia
Without the cries of racism
Without the violent protests by those of the cult calling for beheading and murder.

An open discussion.
Where the truth shall be spoken.

Then we can have a true referendum.

OR DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NO CASE.
THAT THEY ARE PARASITES THAT TAKE BUT DO NOT GIVE
THAT THEY DO NOT MIX OR BECOME CIVILIZED.

This is the real reason you condemn a referendum, you know the result.
Just like the gays.
They know what the outcome would be, so they refuse to allow the masses to speak.

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2017 at 9:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 6:02pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 1:04am: How many Christians are CURRENTLY viewing their religious beliefs in a violent way? No idea.  Some, without a doubt.  WITH serious doubt - until they start actually ACTING on those 'violent' beliefs. A very long way to go to catch up with the Muslims who have never ceased acting on their violent beliefs.

So, the Christians who murder people in the name of their God are OK in your eyes, Soren?

Really?   Tsk, tsk, you truly are a loon.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 9:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 6:02pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 1:04am: How many Christians are CURRENTLY viewing their religious beliefs in a violent way? No idea.  Some, without a doubt.  WITH serious doubt - until they start actually ACTING on those 'violent' beliefs. A very long way to go to catch up with the Muslims who have never ceased acting on their violent beliefs. So, the Christians who murder people in the name of their God are OK in your eyes, Soren? Really?   Tsk, tsk, you truly are a loon.    ::)

Name a Christian who kills in the name of their God and under the mandate of the Christian church.

But there are many thousands of muzzo retards who murder inocent children (the ones they cant rape ) with a clear mandate of their CULT.

Chalk and cheese, my sad little muzzo, chalk and cheese

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More Islamophobia on display from Valkie.  Don't know why he bothers, no one reads it.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Oh, and Christian Terrorists?  Read all about 'em, here, Valkie.    ::)

If its such a peaceful CULT.
Why not have a referendum.

Give those of the CULT the opportunity to demonstrate, prove and put forward tgeir case that they are peaceful and benificial to Australia.

Let them prove their ability to seamlessly intergrate into civilized society.

Let them prove that they are not tge primitive barbarians we see every day.

Then, give us the chance to discuss and put forward our questions.
Without the screams of islamaphobia
Without the cries of racism
Without the violent protests by those of the cult calling for beheading and murder.

An open discussion.
Where the truth shall be spoken.

Then we can have a true referendum.

OR DO YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NO CASE.
THAT THEY ARE PARASITES THAT TAKE BUT DO NOT GIVE
THAT THEY DO NOT MIX OR BECOME CIVILIZED.
YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN, THAT THEY ARE THE PREVEYORS OF EVIL.

This is the REAL reason you condemn a referendum, you already know the result.
Just like the gays.
They know what the outcome would be, so they refuse to allow the masses to speak.

You dont see Christians fleeing Christian countries.
But you see muzzos fleeing muzzo countries, to escape the terror that is unconstrained islam.
It is a brutal, primitive, barbaric, sick and twisted CULT of the devil.

And all the yawning in the world will not change the truth.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You would need a referendum, first to change Section 116 of the Constitution, then your Islamophobic Government wouldn't need a referendum to get rid of Muslims, Valkie.

Good luck on that one.  I can just see all the other religions preaching against that one.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You would need a referendum, first to change Section 116 of the Constitution, then your Islamophobic Government wouldn't need a referendum to get rid of Muslims, Valkie. Good luck on that one.  I can just see all the other religions preaching against that one.   ::) ::)

That would be a great step forward, getting rid of 116. No person should have any special rights above the rest of us.


They should have the same privileges that can be eroded and revoke at the will of the government the same as us.


Put all religious nuts in their place at the back of the fkken line where they belong.  >:( >:(

rhino wrote on Jun 6^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough.

A Referendum is only available to change the Australian Constitution!  Is there anything in the Australian Constitution that mentions anything about "immigration"?

Neferti wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:03pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2017 at 10:38am: This needs to be in public discussion before the next election, a referendum on Islamic immigration. Enough is enough. No off topic rubbish about it being based on racism or fear of other religions, just a valid discussion on whether continued Islamic immigration is what the citizens of this country want. The far left loonies have had their way for long enough. A Referendum is only available to change the Australian Constitution!  Is there anything in the Australian Constitution that mentions anything about "immigration"?

Minor details, to Rhino.

If he doesn't get his way, he still has his shovel in the boot.

It's true, we do need a public referendum, things are getting out of hand, the politicians hands are tied due to political correctness so it is time the people had a say on important issues such as immigration and poof weddings.

Johnnie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

It's true, we do need a public referendum, things are getting out of hand, the politicians hands are tied due to political correctness so it is time the people had a say on important issues such as immigration and poof weddings.

I think you mean a Plebiscite?

http://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/referendums/types.htm

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If its such a peaceful CULT. Why not have a referendum. Give those of the CULT the opportunity to demonstrate, prove and put forward tgeir case that they are peaceful and benificial to Australia. Let them prove their ability to seamlessly intergrate into civilized society. Let them prove that they are not tge primitive barbarians we see every day. Then, give us the chance to discuss and put forward our questions. Without the screams of islamaphobia Without the cries of racism Without the violent protests by those of the cult calling for beheading and murder. An open discussion. Where the truth shall be spoken. Then we can have a true referendum. OR DO YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NO CASE. THAT THEY ARE PARASITES THAT TAKE BUT DO NOT GIVE THAT THEY DO NOT MIX OR BECOME CIVILIZED. YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN, THAT THEY ARE THE PREVEYORS OF EVIL. This is the REAL reason you condemn a referendum, you already know the result. Just like the gays. They know what the outcome would be, so they refuse to allow the masses to speak. You dont see Christians fleeing Christian countries. But you see muzzos fleeing muzzo countries, to escape the terror that is unconstrained islam. It is a brutal, primitive, barbaric, sick and twisted CULT of the devil. And all the yawning in the world will not change the truth.

Yawn away bwyannnnnnnnnnn

Neferti wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 7:06pm: It's true, we do need a public referendum, things are getting out of hand, the politicians hands are tied due to political correctness so it is time the people had a say on important issues such as immigration and poof weddings. I think you mean a Plebiscite? http://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/referendums/types.htm

A plebiscite sounds a bit wishy washy, a referendum sounds more binding.