Indonesia bans extremist organisations in first concrete move against hard-line Islamists   8-)

interesting ..... but they'll need to tread carefully. Ripe pickings for the corrupt.

What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::)

what? Lol.

Well this is a laugh.
The Indonesian Government doesn't even have enough power over 'gangs' and 'pirates' in their country.
Moslems are Moslems and they would never bow down to Politicians or Politics over Allah.

The fact that Borneans & Balinese have cemented their 'alliance' against Moslem extremists shows that the 'Govt' has no real power against the Moslem 'hitmen'.
Ironic considering the Govt - full of Moslems, pushed Moslem bullying of other 'non-moslem' peoples in Indonesia.

Phillipines, Borneans, Balinese, Timorese, and the rest of Melanesia & Micronesia are setting their sites as a concentrated effort when the push comes to shove.
This is what is got the Indonesian Government scared and its trying to save face - but it will never dominate its own Moslem people ...and ALLAH.

Just ask Indonesians  ;)

rhino wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol.

I know, I didn't understand it either. But I'm curious, Rhino. You are an avowed racist with a hatred of all things Muselman, but you appear to have an interest - and a soft spot if I may - for the Indonesian people.

Would you care to tell us some of your experience in this country?

We're listening, Rhino.

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol. I know, I didn't understand it either. But I'm curious, Rhino. You are an avowed racist with a hatred of all things Muselman,

Nothing I have posted indicates this and indeed it is not the case. My dislike is for the Middle Eastern cultures and by default the religion they use to perpetrate their abhorrent practises.

Quote:

but you appear to have an interest - and a soft spot if I may - for the Indonesian people.

I have a very good knowledge of Indonesia and a professional interest in the country.


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Would you care to tell us some of your experience in this country? We're listening, Rhino.

No, I wouldnt.

Indonesia now number one destination for Australian child sex tourists

Jesus, that's disturbing!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:42pm:

Indonesia now number one destination for Australian child sex tourists Jesus, that's disturbing!

That's sickening. So many 'Aussies' doing that - grubs!

What, Indonesia will ban islam ?
I doubt it.

Another lie from a self-confessed cultist

Yes - this is a common trait of the Indo Govt.
To wash their hands of what the extremists do (in Borneo & Bali for example) while they just turn a blind eye.
Over the table they condemn the Extremists,
but under the table they 'fund' them.
Just like the USA did with Pinochet in Chile and others.

Jasin wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

Yes - this is a common trait of the Indo Govt. To wash their hands of what the extremists do (in Borneo & Bali for example) while they just turn a blind eye. Over the table they condemn the Extremists, but under the table they 'fund' them. Just like the USA did with Pinochet in Chile and others.

the Indos appear to be cooperating very well in fighting terrorism, its as much in their interest as ours. As usual you are full of sh!te.

rhino wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:32pm: rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol. I know, I didn't understand it either. But I'm curious, Rhino. You are an avowed racist with a hatred of all things Muselman, Nothing I have posted indicates this and indeed it is not the case. My dislike is for the Middle Eastern cultures and by default the religion they use to perpetrate their abhorrent practises. Quote: but you appear to have an interest - and a soft spot if I may - for the Indonesian people. I have a very good knowledge of Indonesia and a professional interest in the country. [quote]Would you care to tell us some of your experience in this country? We're listening, Rhino.

No, I wouldnt.
[/quote]

Why not?

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:22pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:36pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:32pm: rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol. I know, I didn't understand it either. But I'm curious, Rhino. You are an avowed racist with a hatred of all things Muselman, Nothing I have posted indicates this and indeed it is not the case. My dislike is for the Middle Eastern cultures and by default the religion they use to perpetrate their abhorrent practises. Quote: but you appear to have an interest - and a soft spot if I may - for the Indonesian people. I have a very good knowledge of Indonesia and a professional interest in the country. [quote]Would you care to tell us some of your experience in this country? We're listening, Rhino. No, I wouldnt.

Why not?[/quote]because I like my job.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Indonesia bans extremist organisations in first concrete move against hard-line Islamists   8-)

WOW
FIRST MOVE EH...
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE.
ACEH IS GONE, THE REST WILL FOLLOW SLOWLY.

rhino wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:07pm: Yes - this is a common trait of the Indo Govt. To wash their hands of what the extremists do (in Borneo & Bali for example) while they just turn a blind eye. Over the table they condemn the Extremists, but under the table they 'fund' them. Just like the USA did with Pinochet in Chile and others. the Indos appear to be cooperating very well in fighting terrorism, its as much in their interest as ours. As usual you are full of sh!te.

I get my info from Indonesians (co-workers) themselves. They show me the 'clips' of stuff you don't normally see on TV of what happens there. The Govt NOW is trying to do something and save face ONLY because of the new growing opposition of the Borneans (who come out in the thousands, full armed in traditional attire, to both protest and 'defend' themselves), Balinese, smaller minority traditional non-muslim tribes, Timorese, Melanesian nations and now Phillipines. All of whom are now suggesting 'Alliance' against 'Moslem' Indonesia. Rich Saudi's have visited Indonesia months ago to re-invigorate the Moslem cause (even in Bali).
The Indo Govt is now trying a 'save face' and 'save their authority' because of this, especially after hundreds of thousands of Indonesians around the world held protests.

It's a case of 'too late' for the Politicians there - they originally supported and pushed the Extremism, then played innocent by turning a blind eye and now they are caught by their own device with the growing opposition and now they are trying to take down their Frankenstein.
We all know what will happen. Allah is greater than Politics in Indonesia and soon - the overthrow of the Govt from within will commence.

When the other 'big' wars begin, the Indo Govt will be no more and the 'Alliance' will invade Indonesia.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Indonesia bans extremist organisations in first concrete move against hard-line Islamists   8-)

Will they be banning the organisations that continue to slaughter thousands of West Papuans like we allowed them to do to the East Timorese?

The indonesian government is a hard line islamist organisation that routinely murders innocent women, children.

So fkk them and their bullsh1t lies

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::)

Including the sanctioned killing of women and children of 'lesser' non-muslim countries like West Papua and East Timor.


Yep, Im glad we Australians kow tow to them at every opportunity

rhino wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:22pm: rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:36pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:32pm: rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol. I know, I didn't understand it either. But I'm curious, Rhino. You are an avowed racist with a hatred of all things Muselman, Nothing I have posted indicates this and indeed it is not the case. My dislike is for the Middle Eastern cultures and by default the religion they use to perpetrate their abhorrent practises. Quote: but you appear to have an interest - and a soft spot if I may - for the Indonesian people. I have a very good knowledge of Indonesia and a professional interest in the country. [quote]Would you care to tell us some of your experience in this country? We're listening, Rhino. No, I wouldnt. Why not?

because I like my job.
[/quote]

I don't think you'd get in trouble for saying you did a stint in Indonesia as a cop, Rhino, but I wasn't asking you to say that.

rhino wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol.

It's a country, not a country club. Many people don't realise.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 10:38am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) Including the sanctioned killing of women and children of 'lesser' non-muslim countries like West Papua and East Timor. Yep, Im glad we Australians kow tow to them at every opportunity

The Indonesian Government doesn't care what religion an individual practices as long as they accept the sovereignty of Jakarta.   Indonesia throughout it's history has been beset with separatist movements - the eternal pull of the periphery away from the centre of an archipelago of islands which were melded into a nation state by first the Dutch and then later, the Javanese themselves when the took over.    Resistance is painted as an "us" versus "them", usually on tribal/ethnicity/religious grounds but in reality it has little to do with religion.   If you look at the history of the Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea and then later, East Timor, that is obvious.   The Indonesia occupation was based on politics, not religion.  The local religious practices were allowed to continue as they had, before the start of the occupation.    ::) ::)

Karnal wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 11:10am:

rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:24pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:22pm: rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:36pm: Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:32pm: rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol. I know, I didn't understand it either. But I'm curious, Rhino. You are an avowed racist with a hatred of all things Muselman, Nothing I have posted indicates this and indeed it is not the case. My dislike is for the Middle Eastern cultures and by default the religion they use to perpetrate their abhorrent practises. Quote: but you appear to have an interest - and a soft spot if I may - for the Indonesian people. I have a very good knowledge of Indonesia and a professional interest in the country. [quote]Would you care to tell us some of your experience in this country? We're listening, Rhino. No, I wouldnt. Why not? because I like my job.

I don't think you'd get in trouble for saying you did a stint in Indonesia as a cop, Rhino, but I wasn't asking you to say that. [/quote]

It's all very top secret, what Rhino does.


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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 10:38am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) Including the sanctioned killing of women and children of 'lesser' non-muslim countries like West Papua and East Timor. Yep, Im glad we Australians kow tow to them at every opportunity The Indonesian Government doesn't care what religion an individual practices as long as they accept the sovereignty of Jakarta.   Indonesia throughout it's history has been beset with separatist movements - the eternal pull of the periphery away from the centre of an archipelago of islands which were melded into a nation state by first the Dutch and then later, the Javanese themselves when the took over.    Resistance is painted as an "us" versus "them", usually on tribal/ethnicity/religious grounds but in reality it has little to do with religion.   If you look at the history of the Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea and then later, East Timor, that is obvious.   The Indonesia occupation was based on politics, not religion.  The local religious practices were allowed to continue as they had, before the start of the occupation.    ::) ::)

Well it is painted as an "us verses them" because that is what it is. The Papuans and the Timorese are NOT indonesians and Papua should not be under indonesian control.


Yes the occupation is based on politics, but the willingness to murder women and children is based on, for want of a better description religious 'untermensch'. They can murder Papuans because they don't consider them humans, plain and fkken simple.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

We it is painted as an "us verses them" because that is what it is. The Papuans and the Timorese are NOT indonesians and Papua should not be under indonesian control.

Couldn't agree more, BigOl64.   However, I recognise that boat has well and truly sailed.  Short of another Habibie moment, the Indonesians will continue to control that half of the island.   We had our chance in 1960 but were ill-equipped to enforce it.  Our "great and powerful friends" had indicated that they favoured Indonesia over us and so we were forced to shut up and step back.  Sukarno won that and so the UN handed West Papua over to them.


Quote:

Yes the occupation is based on politics, but the willingness to murder women and children is based on, for want of a better description religious 'untermensch'. They can murder Papuans because they don't consider them humans, plain and fkken simple.

Oh, I wish it was, BigOl64.  In reality, it is far more complex than you are willing to admit because to do so would demolish your views.    West Papuans are killed because they resist Jakarta's rule, not because they are "untermensch".    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:21pm: We it is painted as an "us verses them" because that is what it is. The Papuans and the Timorese are NOT indonesians and Papua should not be under indonesian control. Couldn't agree more, BigOl64.   However, I recognise that boat has well and truly sailed.  Short of another Habibie moment, the Indonesians will continue to control that half of the island.   We had our chance in 1960 but were ill-equipped to enforce it.  Our "great and powerful friends" had indicated that they favoured Indonesia over us and so we were forced to shut up and step back.  Sukarno won that and so the UN handed West Papua over to them. Quote: Yes the occupation is based on politics, but the willingness to murder women and children is based on, for want of a better description religious 'untermensch'. They can murder Papuans because they don't consider them humans, plain and fkken simple. Oh, I wish it was, BigOl64.  In reality, it is far more complex than you are willing to admit because to do so would demolish your views.    West Papuans are killed because they resist Jakarta's rule, not because they are "untermensch".    ::)

They are killed easily because they are untermensch, like they did with the Timorese. Deliberately murdering civilians is easier if you think they are nothing more than animals.

You don't get civilian deaths in the 10s if not 100s of 1000s if you consider the women and children you are shooting as human.


The thing that has always stunk is the way we allow there sh1t to continue and the mere mention of their murderous behavior sets the fkkheads off and we slime straight in with a heart felt apology for pointing out they are murdering innocent civilians.


That sh1t isn't that complex.  >:( >:( >:(


If I stand alone with my unbridled hatred of indoneasia then Im fine with that.

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:13pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:25pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) what? Lol. It's a country, not a country club. Many people don't realise.

They're nicer than the Arabs, FD - they don't have the subhuman Negroid gene.

A plausible theory, remember.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 10:38am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) Including the sanctioned killing of women and children of 'lesser' non-muslim countries like West Papua and East Timor. Yep, Im glad we Australians kow tow to them at every opportunity The Indonesian Government doesn't care what religion an individual practices as long as they accept the sovereignty of Jakarta.

Ok now the waffle is gone...  perhaps bwian can explain Aceh and why is it that the government has problems with Muslims killing people.  The fact they don't care bwian hasn't remedied the problem now has it?  hmmmm :D :D :D

Jasin wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:43am:

rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:18pm: Jasin wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 10:07pm: Yes - this is a common trait of the Indo Govt. To wash their hands of what the extremists do (in Borneo & Bali for example) while they just turn a blind eye. Over the table they condemn the Extremists, but under the table they 'fund' them. Just like the USA did with Pinochet in Chile and others. the Indos appear to be cooperating very well in fighting terrorism, its as much in their interest as ours. As usual you are full of sh!te. I get my info from Indonesians (co-workers) themselves. They show me the 'clips' of stuff you don't normally see on TV of what happens there. The Govt NOW is trying to do something and save face ONLY because of the new growing opposition of the Borneans (who come out in the thousands, full armed in traditional attire, to both protest and 'defend' themselves), Balinese, smaller minority traditional non-muslim tribes, Timorese, Melanesian nations and now Phillipines. All of whom are now suggesting 'Alliance' against 'Moslem' Indonesia. Rich Saudi's have visited Indonesia months ago to re-invigorate the Moslem cause (even in Bali). The Indo Govt is now trying a 'save face' and 'save their authority' because of this, especially after hundreds of thousands of Indonesians around the world held protests. It's a case of 'too late' for the Politicians there - they originally supported and pushed the Extremism, then played innocent by turning a blind eye and now they are caught by their own device with the growing opposition and now they are trying to take down their Frankenstein. We all know what will happen. Allah is greater than Politics in Indonesia and soon - the overthrow of the Govt from within will commence. When the other 'big' wars begin, the Indo Govt will be no more and the 'Alliance' will invade Indonesia.

You should write a book on what you dont know instead of posting it here.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 10:38am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) Including the sanctioned killing of women and children of 'lesser' non-muslim countries like West Papua and East Timor. Yep, Im glad we Australians kow tow to them at every opportunity The Indonesian Government doesn't care what religion an individual practices as long as they accept the sovereignty of Jakarta.   Indonesia throughout it's history has been beset with separatist movements - the eternal pull of the periphery away from the centre of an archipelago of islands which were melded into a nation state by first the Dutch and then later, the Javanese themselves when the took over.    Resistance is painted as an "us" versus "them", usually on tribal/ethnicity/religious grounds but in reality it has little to do with religion.   If you look at the history of the Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea and then later, East Timor, that is obvious.   The Indonesia occupation was based on politics, not religion.  The local religious practices were allowed to continue as they had, before the start of the occupation.    ::) ::)

well Brian , you surprise me, you actually know something and are right about it.

rhino wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 1:46pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 10:38am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:09pm: What people don't understand is that Indonesia is a nation state.  Anything that threatens the rule of that state is not popular with the existing government.    ::) Including the sanctioned killing of women and children of 'lesser' non-muslim countries like West Papua and East Timor. Yep, Im glad we Australians kow tow to them at every opportunity The Indonesian Government doesn't care what religion an individual practices as long as they accept the sovereignty of Jakarta.   Indonesia throughout it's history has been beset with separatist movements - the eternal pull of the periphery away from the centre of an archipelago of islands which were melded into a nation state by first the Dutch and then later, the Javanese themselves when the took over.    Resistance is painted as an "us" versus "them", usually on tribal/ethnicity/religious grounds but in reality it has little to do with religion.   If you look at the history of the Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea and then later, East Timor, that is obvious.   The Indonesia occupation was based on politics, not religion.  The local religious practices were allowed to continue as they had, before the start of the occupation.    ::) ::) well Brian , you surprise me, you actually know something and are right about it.

I blame Islam.

You?

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 2:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:28pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:21pm: We it is painted as an "us verses them" because that is what it is. The Papuans and the Timorese are NOT indonesians and Papua should not be under indonesian control. Couldn't agree more, BigOl64.   However, I recognise that boat has well and truly sailed.  Short of another Habibie moment, the Indonesians will continue to control that half of the island.   We had our chance in 1960 but were ill-equipped to enforce it.  Our "great and powerful friends" had indicated that they favoured Indonesia over us and so we were forced to shut up and step back.  Sukarno won that and so the UN handed West Papua over to them. Quote: Yes the occupation is based on politics, but the willingness to murder women and children is based on, for want of a better description religious 'untermensch'. They can murder Papuans because they don't consider them humans, plain and fkken simple. Oh, I wish it was, BigOl64.  In reality, it is far more complex than you are willing to admit because to do so would demolish your views.    West Papuans are killed because they resist Jakarta's rule, not because they are "untermensch".    ::) They are killed easily because they are untermensch, like they did with the Timorese. Deliberately murdering civilians is easier if you think they are nothing more than animals.

True, which is how many nations, including Australia have gotten away with bombing Asian cities and destroying Asian villages, BigOl64.   Dehumanising your opponent allows you to kill them much more easily.  However, that is how the common Indonesian Soldier is taught to think about their opponents.  Just as it is how common Australian Special Forces "Operatives" (what ever happened to them being "troopers" or "soldiers"?) think about Afghan or Iraqi civilians.   How else the recent revelations about the death of the Afghani boy?  Is it what the common, Indonesian civilians believe or think?  ::)


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You don't get civilian deaths in the 10s if not 100s of 1000s if you consider the women and children you are shooting as human.

I suppose the people of Baria can understand that...    ::)


Quote:

The thing that has always stunk is the way we allow there sh1t to continue and the mere mention of their murderous behavior sets the fkkheads off and we slime straight in with a heart felt apology for pointing out they are murdering innocent civilians. That sh1t isn't that complex.  >:( >:( >:( If I stand alone with my unbridled hatred of indoneasia then Im fine with that.

That you keep expressing this hatred against Indonesia (please note the correct spelling) is immature and more suited to a young child than an adult.   Most Indonesians aren't involved in the occupation of anywhere.  Most Indonesians aren't interested in killing anybody.  Yet you seem to blame them all, for some reason.   Indonesia is made up of over 350 million individuals.   When you look at them as individuals, what do you see?   Untermensch?   Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Indonesia- the same country who gave more prison time to a pot smuggler over the piece of scum who orchestrated the Bali Bombings???

The Australian Liberal Party?

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

The Australian Liberal Party?

Abu Bashir.

You have to ask yourself "extreme what?" It started with a few head chops, moved on to Muzlim boat people, bombings, and blasphemy. Why would Joco Widodo think things were getting out of hand? Well, the elites in Indonesia have seen what happened across Islam. This is a desperate move. They know they are in deep feces. The fanatics have infiltrated government, vis their top general. Our resident fanatic Gandalf, will be pleased, but he will try to pretend he disapproves. Meamwhile the doctor of divinity, Brian Ross, will continue to assure us that Indonesian Muzlims are nice folks. And John Smith will accuse Widodo of Islamophobia.

issuevoter wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 10:10pm:

You have to ask yourself "extreme what?" It started with a few head chops, moved on to Muzlim boat people, bombings, and blasphemy. Why would Joco Widodo think things were getting out of hand? Well, the elites in Indonesia have seen what happened across Islam. This is a desperate move. They know they are in deep feces. The fanatics have infiltrated government, vis their top general. Our resident fanatic Gandalf, will be pleased, but he will try to pretend he disapproves. Meamwhile the doctor of divinity, Brian Ross, will continue to assure us that Indonesian Muzlims are nice folks. And John Smith will accuse Widodo of Islamophobia.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   What a shame you suffer from both Islamophobia and it seems anti-Intellectualism.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:51pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:10pm: You have to ask yourself "extreme what?" It started with a few head chops, moved on to Muzlim boat people, bombings, and blasphemy. Why would Joco Widodo think things were getting out of hand? Well, the elites in Indonesia have seen what happened across Islam. This is a desperate move. They know they are in deep feces. The fanatics have infiltrated government, vis their top general. Our resident fanatic Gandalf, will be pleased, but he will try to pretend he disapproves. Meamwhile the doctor of divinity, Brian Ross, will continue to assure us that Indonesian Muzlims are nice folks. And John Smith will accuse Widodo of Islamophobia. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   What a shame you suffer from both Islamophobia and it seems anti-Intellectualism.    ::)

:D :D :D :D

Says the  Islamophiliac (yes, it's an affliction) Pseudo-Intellectual with the mail order credentials.
In other words a sick fraud.

Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer.

I kinda agree with the BigOl64.

The Indonesians (Political, Religious) consider the Melanesians (Papuans, Timorese and any 'black' Indo) as sub-human.
Half of Indonesia is geographically, environmentally, Flora/Fauna - part of the Region of Sahul. That is, 'East of the Wallace Line'. With this was the 'Black' peoples of Melanesian extract. Most were wiped out long ago, back beyond the Dutch days.
The murder of West Papuans is done 'obviously' - with the extraction of the Melanesians and the forced settlements of the Yellow Indonesians. It was no different to the USSR pumping its people out into Siberia and displacing the Mongol 'sub-humans' out into the extremities.

The Govt is no longer what it used to be in Indonesia. Piracy rules the waters and Gangs rule its cities.
Islam now dominates more than ever before and the fact that Extremism flourishes there, shows that 'Politics' has been usurped by Religion.

The other surrounding nations and peoples know that Indonesia is a lost cause of corruption and chaos and it is dangerous because of that.

I'm pretty sure that Police officer was trying to extort that couple (Aussie woman and Brit boyfriend) for both money and sex, before he was killed. It's just the way Indonesians do things.

Within just 10 years - Indonesia, as a nation - will be no more and its replacement will be a collective of smaller independent Nations, most of which will prefer to be culturally linked to the Region that is Sahul (that includes us) - than Asia.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 12:37am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:51pm: issuevoter wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:10pm: You have to ask yourself "extreme what?" It started with a few head chops, moved on to Muzlim boat people, bombings, and blasphemy. Why would Joco Widodo think things were getting out of hand? Well, the elites in Indonesia have seen what happened across Islam. This is a desperate move. They know they are in deep feces. The fanatics have infiltrated government, vis their top general. Our resident fanatic Gandalf, will be pleased, but he will try to pretend he disapproves. Meamwhile the doctor of divinity, Brian Ross, will continue to assure us that Indonesian Muzlims are nice folks. And John Smith will accuse Widodo of Islamophobia. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   What a shame you suffer from both Islamophobia and it seems anti-Intellectualism.    ::) :D :D :D :D Says the  Islamophiliac (yes, it's an affliction) Pseudo-Intellectual with the mail order credentials. In other words a sick fraud.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.   What a shame you suffer from both Islamophobia and it seems anti-Intellectualism.    ::)

moses wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer.

Do I?

When, Moses?

I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to.

What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::)

Jasin wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

I kinda agree with the BigOl64. The Indonesians (Political, Religious) consider the Melanesians (Papuans, Timorese and any 'black' Indo) as sub-human. Half of Indonesia is geographically, environmentally, Flora/Fauna - part of the Region of Sahul. That is, 'East of the Wallace Line'. With this was the 'Black' peoples of Melanesian extract. Most were wiped out long ago, back beyond the Dutch days. The murder of West Papuans is done 'obviously' - with the extraction of the Melanesians and the forced settlements of the Yellow Indonesians. It was no different to the USSR pumping its people out into Siberia and displacing the Mongol 'sub-humans' out into the extremities. The Govt is no longer what it used to be in Indonesia. Piracy rules the waters and Gangs rule its cities. Islam now dominates more than ever before and the fact that Extremism flourishes there, shows that 'Politics' has been usurped by Religion. The other surrounding nations and peoples know that Indonesia is a lost cause of corruption and chaos and it is dangerous because of that. I'm pretty sure that Police officer was trying to extort that couple (Aussie woman and Brit boyfriend) for both money and sex, before he was killed. It's just the way Indonesians do things. Within just 10 years - Indonesia, as a nation - will be no more and its replacement will be a collective of smaller independent Nations, most of which will prefer to be culturally linked to the Region that is Sahul (that includes us) - than Asia.

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Gosh you talk bullshit, JaSin.  Total and utter bullshit.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:

moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Well you just made all those degrees worthless.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:

moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::)

Defence Studies, eh?  Anything with 'Studies' in its name is for the Special Ed kids - every schoolboy knows that.  Not surprised you have one of those then, and a mail order 'Divinity' certificate of payment.  You pompous, preening little gnome.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) Defence Studies, eh?  Anything with 'Studies' in its name is for the Special Ed kids - every schoolboy knows that.  Not surprised you have one of those then, and a mail order 'Divinity' certificate of payment.  You pompous, preening little gnome.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren are you really so insecure that you have to show your own problems with other peoples' qualifications?    ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) Defence Studies, eh?  Anything with 'Studies' in its name is for the Special Ed kids - every schoolboy knows that.  Not surprised you have one of those then, and a mail order 'Divinity' certificate of payment.  You pompous, preening little gnome. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren are you really so insecure that you have to show your own problems with other peoples' qualifications?    ::) ::)

MY problem??? Your crap degrees you are boasting about are MY problem???

;D ;D ;D

You are a know-nothing who is big-noting himself with worthless qualifications - and I have a problem??  You are in a seriously damaged psychological state, Bwian. You are completely ill-adjusted to ordinary human encounters.  You need help. Counselling for a very long time is indicated.

Or you can just remain a laughing stock and wonder why, for another decade or two.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:11pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) Defence Studies, eh?  Anything with 'Studies' in its name is for the Special Ed kids - every schoolboy knows that.  Not surprised you have one of those then, and a mail order 'Divinity' certificate of payment.  You pompous, preening little gnome. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren are you really so insecure that you have to show your own problems with other peoples' qualifications?    ::) ::) MY problem??? Your crap degrees you are boasting about are MY problem???

Yes, because you make them your problem with your immature response.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


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You are a know-nothing who is big-noting himself with worthless qualifications - and I have a problem??  You are in a seriously damaged psychological state, Bwian. You are completely ill-adjusted to ordinary human encounters.  You need help. Counselling for a very long time is indicated. Or you can just remain a laughing stock and wonder why, for another decade or two.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Move along folks, move along.  Nothing interesting to see here, just Soren's tired old ad hominem arguments.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:44pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 8:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:11pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) Defence Studies, eh?  Anything with 'Studies' in its name is for the Special Ed kids - every schoolboy knows that.  Not surprised you have one of those then, and a mail order 'Divinity' certificate of payment.  You pompous, preening little gnome. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren are you really so insecure that you have to show your own problems with other peoples' qualifications?    ::) ::) MY problem??? Your crap degrees you are boasting about are MY problem??? Yes, because you make them your problem with your immature response.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Quote: You are a know-nothing who is big-noting himself with worthless qualifications - and I have a problem??  You are in a seriously damaged psychological state, Bwian. You are completely ill-adjusted to ordinary human encounters.  You need help. Counselling for a very long time is indicated. Or you can just remain a laughing stock and wonder why, for another decade or two. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Move along folks, move along.  Nothing interesting to see here, just Soren's tired old ad hominem arguments.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian is eating a sh!t sandwich again, defeated in an open encounter of ideas.

Open wide, tut tutitng man.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:44pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 8:59pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:11pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:09pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) Defence Studies, eh?  Anything with 'Studies' in its name is for the Special Ed kids - every schoolboy knows that.  Not surprised you have one of those then, and a mail order 'Divinity' certificate of payment.  You pompous, preening little gnome. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren are you really so insecure that you have to show your own problems with other peoples' qualifications?    ::) ::) MY problem??? Your crap degrees you are boasting about are MY problem??? Yes, because you make them your problem with your immature response.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Quote: You are a know-nothing who is big-noting himself with worthless qualifications - and I have a problem??  You are in a seriously damaged psychological state, Bwian. You are completely ill-adjusted to ordinary human encounters.  You need help. Counselling for a very long time is indicated. Or you can just remain a laughing stock and wonder why, for another decade or two. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Move along folks, move along.  Nothing interesting to see here, just Soren's tired old ad hominem arguments.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Brian is eating a sh!t sandwich again, defeated in an open encounter of ideas. Open wide, tut tutitng man.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Move along folks, move along.  Nothing interesting to see here, just Soren's tired old ad hominem arguments.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia.


Please clarify.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify.

Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::)

Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'?


How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really??

As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID.

So true, old boy. You're the victim here. Brian is trying to take away your free speech.

How dare he try to take away your right to be offended?

So unfair.

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Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID.

I do hope the islamophiles get to excuse and explain how the religion of peace and feminism is only a benefit to Australia.


As mothra has pointed out that the 80% of muslim inmates at the NSW supermax only amounts to 32 so that is a good thing.


So you may only get one go, but the apologists may lie over and over to their hearts content.  :) :)

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Dehumanising your opponent allows you to kill them much more easily.

The qur'an is an excellent example of this strategy.

It tells us non believers are the lowest of the low

qur'an 8.55:Surely the vilest of animals in allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe.

Plus a myriad of verses urging muslims to kill unbelievers.

The qur'an then tells us allah made them unbelievers, allah could have killed them himself, however he prefers muslims slaughter them as a test.

islam a death cult pure and simple.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them.

Even Gandalf will tell us that the tribe slaughtered by Muhammad were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews.

Greg and Brian and John did their best to politely look away and pretend it wasn't happening.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

Greg and Brian and John did their best to politely look away and pretend it wasn't happening.

ahh, now you've moved on from putting words and twisting what people say, to outright lying.

Progress FD, progress.  :D :D

Do you have an opinion on Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide that you would like to share?

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Do you have an opinion on Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide that you would like to share?

I was satisfied with his explanation of it.

Are you now going to lie about what I said in this post? or is that only reserved for when you're reflecting?

Ozpolitic.com banned?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:42pm:

Indonesia now number one destination for Australian child sex tourists Jesus, that's disturbing!

You sound surprised.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them. Even Gandalf will tell us that the tribe slaughtered by Muhammad were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews. Greg and Brian and John did their best to politely look away and pretend it wasn't happening.

Karnal was the only one to be arsed to admit to this shady spot in Islam's history.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:42pm:

Indonesia now number one destination for Australian child sex tourists Jesus, that's disturbing!

Have children's tours of Australia's Parliament House been stopped?

Just keep them away from the ALP that's the only party with a history of elected pedophile members.

Grendel wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 3:09pm:

Just keep them away from the ALP that's the only party with a history of elected pedophile members.

The Liberal Party doesn't have much luck getting their paedophiles elected then?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:42pm: Indonesia now number one destination for Australian child sex tourists Jesus, that's disturbing! You sound surprised.

Very.

I didn't know it was going on in Bali.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 3:09pm: Just keep them away from the ALP that's the only party with a history of elected pedophile members. The Liberal Party doesn't have much luck getting their paedophiles elected then?

The Libs are flaccid. Even super stay-hard cream doesn't do the job.

Karnal wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 1:00am:

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID. So true, old boy. You're the victim here. Brian is trying to take away your free speech. How dare he try to take away your right to be offended? So unfair.

No, he's just  stupid like you. He and you can defend Islam and Muslim every time the topic comes up and that's noice - but rejecting Islam everytime it comes up is fauxbia.
You both are stupider than expected. And that can be confirmed every time you post the content of your 'minds'.

Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Poor, Soren, you really don't understand how to relate to people in a civilised manner, do you?   You and your fellow Islamophobes don't reject, Islam or Muslims, you TOTALLY REJECT them, don't you and you have to keep telling us 'cause you KNOW you have the true and total way of rejecting Islam - by condemning all Muslims even those who have not committed any crimes, who live peacefully amongst us, being moderate in their views and seeking only greater assimilation with wider Australian society.   To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they?

Be reasonable, be truthful, listen to people when they correct you and recognise you are mistaken and you'd be accepted as a real Australian, Soren, not a faux Lutheran Australian from Denmark.    ::)

John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:59pm: Do you have an opinion on Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide that you would like to share? I was satisfied with his explanation of it. Are you now going to lie about what I said in this post? or is that only reserved for when you're reflecting?

Does that mean you agree that they were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews who deserved to die?

Can you cite any other instances where someone has been able to explain away genocide to you?

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:00am: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID. So true, old boy. You're the victim here. Brian is trying to take away your free speech. How dare he try to take away your right to be offended? So unfair. No, he's just  stupid like you. He and you can defend Islam and Muslim every time the topic comes up and that's noice - but rejecting Islam everytime it comes up is fauxbia. You both are stupider than expected. And that can be confirmed every time you post the content of your 'minds'.

And remember, kids. Don't do schnapps.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 2:18pm: freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:59pm: Do you have an opinion on Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide that you would like to share? I was satisfied with his explanation of it. Are you now going to lie about what I said in this post? or is that only reserved for when you're reflecting? Does that mean you agree that they were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews who deserved to die? Can you cite any other instances where someone has been able to explain away genocide to you?

No individuality whatsoever, FD. You left that bit out.

Now say the whole thing next time, okay?

Karnal wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:50pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 2:18pm: freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:59pm: Do you have an opinion on Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide that you would like to share? I was satisfied with his explanation of it. Are you now going to lie about what I said in this post? or is that only reserved for when you're reflecting? Does that mean you agree that they were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews who deserved to die? Can you cite any other instances where someone has been able to explain away genocide to you? No individuality whatsoever, FD. You left that bit out. Now say the whole thing next time, okay?

Oh dear. I have quoted Gandalf out of context again.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they?

You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it??

You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Does that mean you agree that they were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews who deserved to die?

putting word in peoples mouths again FD. You can't help yourself can you. :D :D

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Poor, Soren, you really don't understand how to relate to people in a civilised manner, do you?   You and your fellow Islamophobes don't reject, Islam or Muslims, you TOTALLY REJECT them, don't you and you have to keep telling us 'cause you KNOW you have the true and total way of rejecting Islam - by condemning all Muslims even those who have not committed any crimes, who live peacefully amongst us, being moderate in their views and seeking only greater assimilation with wider Australian society.

What's wrong with totally rejecting something?? You have said repeatedly that Christianity has been beaten out of you.

Islamic terrorism has beaten all sympathy for Muslims out of me.

How am I different? You hate Christianity, I reject Islam and Muslims who believe in Islam.


What's the difference, po-faced old hag?

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Poor, Soren, you really don't understand how to relate to people in a civilised manner, do you?  Be reasonable, be truthful, listen to people when they correct you and recognise you are mistaken and you'd be accepted as a real Australian, Soren, not a faux Lutheran Australian from Denmark.

Civilization has its discontents, Brian. The old boy's a faux Lutheran from Denmark. They have a different set of values to us. The old boy will never convert to Australianism.

As a civilized race, we accept him. Remember, we may not agree with what the old boy has to say, but we'd fight to the death for his right to say it.

Yes, we welcome the old boy and his inferior culture, but that's just us.

Karnal wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 10:00pm: Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Brian, tell us the demarcation between expressing respectably a total rejection of Islam and Islamophobia. Please clarify. Reject it once and it's a rejection.  Reject it continuously, on the basis of lies and it becomes Islamophobia.  Guess what you do?   ::) ::) ::) Oh, so having rejected Islam I must now refrain from participating in any other discussions about Islam lest I reject it again and thereby be branded a 'phobe'? How stupid can you get, Brian?? Really?? As I say, you are stupider than anyone's wildest expectations.  You are the Platonic, perfect  STUPID. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Poor, Soren, you really don't understand how to relate to people in a civilised manner, do you?  Be reasonable, be truthful, listen to people when they correct you and recognise you are mistaken and you'd be accepted as a real Australian, Soren, not a faux Lutheran Australian from Denmark.  Civilization has its discontents, Brian. The old boy's a faux Lutheran from Denmark. They have a different set of values to us. The old boy will never convert to Australianism. As a civilized race, we accept him. Remember, we may not agree with what the old boy has to say, but we'd fight to the death for his right to say it. Yes, we welcome the old boy and his inferior culture, but that's just us.

Malcontents too?

Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it??

Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::)


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You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it?? Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::) Quote: You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

You characterise Australians as beer swilling wife beaters, you despicable pappikak.

And on that basis you stand with the wife-stoners and sharia mongers who do not want to assimilate to such an Australia as you and they portray it.

Spinless apologist is too kind on you.

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:41pm:

You characterise Australians as beer swilling wife beaters, you despicable pappikak.

You're quite prepared to call all Muslims 'terrorists' because of the actions of a few, why not apply the same standard to aussies?

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:33pm: Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it?? Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::) Quote: You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) You characterise Australians as beer swilling wife beaters, you despicable pappikak.

Actually I didn't.  If you hadn't failed your English Comprehension exam, you'd realise that, Soren.  Tsk, tsk.    ::)


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And on that basis you stand with the wife-stoners and sharia mongers who do not want to assimilate to such an Australia as you and they portray it. Spinless apologist is too kind on you.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:33pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it?? Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::) Quote: You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

No, I nailed you exactly for what you are.

John Smith wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:45pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:41pm: You characterise Australians as beer swilling wife beaters, you despicable pappikak. You're quite prepared to call all Muslims 'terrorists' because of the actions of a few, why not apply the same standard to aussies?

Not you, thicko, please.  I have never once called all Muslims anything.  I am not as idiotic as you or Bwian.

I am critical of Islam and do not excuse it's followers from the foul deeds that are committed in its name.

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:33pm: Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it?? Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::) Quote: You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) No, I nailed you exactly for what you are.

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So, lets look at this shall we,  Soren?

How many years did you serve in the Australian Defence Forces?

How many years have you worked to defend minorities in Australia against the rampaging Racist/Xenophobic/Islamophobic/Homophobic groups?

How many years have you pleaded for greater decency in Australian society?

Mmmm?

All I've ever read from you is intolerance, bigotry, hatred, Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia...

Looks like you lose.  Again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:33pm: Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it?? Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::) Quote: You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) No, I nailed you exactly for what you are. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg So, lets look at this shall we,  Soren? How many years did you serve in the Australian Defence Forces? How many years have you worked to defend minorities in Australia against the rampaging Racist/Xenophobic/Islamophobic/Homophobic groups? How many years have you pleaded for greater decency in Australian society? Mmmm? All I've ever read from you is intolerance, bigotry, hatred, Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia... Looks like you lose.  Again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::)

You characterise Australians like this, with your years of fighting for decency:


Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they?

And then you try to tell us what a great guy you are.  Buzz off, Bwian, you despicable, spineless pappikak.

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:55pm: Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:33pm: Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:29pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm: To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? You revolting sack of pollikak. Its really about your hatred of Australia, isn't it?? Only in your imagination, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, looks like your projecting.  I love cosmopolitan, multicultural Australia.  You hate it.   ::) Quote: You despicable, rancourous, stinking pile of spineless pollikak. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Seems Soren has lost it, again.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) No, I nailed you exactly for what you are. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg So, lets look at this shall we,  Soren? How many years did you serve in the Australian Defence Forces? How many years have you worked to defend minorities in Australia against the rampaging Racist/Xenophobic/Islamophobic/Homophobic groups? How many years have you pleaded for greater decency in Australian society? Mmmm? All I've ever read from you is intolerance, bigotry, hatred, Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia... Looks like you lose.  Again.   Tsk, tsk.    ::) You characterise Australians like this, with your years of fighting for decency: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:39pm:  To you, unless they cease worshipping their religion, guzzling beer and swearing like a trooper and of course, beating their wives and children, they can't be "real Aussies" (approved by all Islamophobes), now can they? And then you try to tell us what a great guy you are.  Buzz off, Bwian, you despicable, spineless pappikak.

As I have said, Soren and I'll say it again, I don't characterise Australians in that manner.  Read what I wrote again.  Slowly.  You can move your lips if you desire, I don't mind.   Look at the statement just after what you have highlighted.  Look, I've highlighted it again for you.  It is you and your fellow Islamophobes who characterise Australians in that manner, not me.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 5:36pm:

As I have said, Soren and I'll say it again, I don't characterise Australians in that manner.  Read what I wrote again.  Slowly.  You can move your lips if you desire, I don't mind.   Look at the statement just after what you have highlighted.  Look, I've highlighted it again for you.  It is you and your fellow Islamophobes who characterise Australians in that manner, not me.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Too late, worm.

You  characterise Australians like that to spite me.
Your heart is filled with rancour and spite, Bwian.

Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes.

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:54pm:

Not you, thicko, please.  I have never once called all Muslims anything.  I am not as idiotic as you or Bwian. I am critical of Islam and do not excuse it's followers from the foul deeds that are committed in its name.

of course sore end.


Frank wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 9:16pm:

You just can't tell them apart, Muslims and Muslims.  There is no reliable way to tell them apart UNTIL they kill you.

and another one



Frank wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

ISLAM has proven itself to be at the heart of Islamic terrorism.  Islam has had it's chance to prove itself otherwise and it hasn't. We cannot tell toxic Mohammedans from nice Mohammedans until it is too late.  I am not prepared to give Mohammedans the benefit of the doubt because there is NO doubt that Islam fuel murder..

but you've never called them anything but ...... :D :D :D :D

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 6:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 5:36pm: As I have said, Soren and I'll say it again, I don't characterise Australians in that manner.  Read what I wrote again.  Slowly.  You can move your lips if you desire, I don't mind.   Look at the statement just after what you have highlighted.  Look, I've highlighted it again for you.  It is you and your fellow Islamophobes who characterise Australians in that manner, not me.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Too late, worm. You  characterise Australians like that to spite me. Your heart is filled with rancour and spite, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Unable to admit that you got it wrong, Soren?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 6:56pm:

Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes.

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Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 9:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::)

You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide?

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide?

Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide? Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::)

Ah. You mean the Abu stereotype. Lies about Islam are only permitted in the context of war, and the west has been at war with the Muslim world for 100 years.

All these Muslim stereotypes being trotted out constantly. It's hard to know which one you are on about isn't it Brian? I bet even you have forgotten by now.

Well Freediver. I say to my Moslem aquaintences - if you live by the rules of 'group' mentality and way of life, then you are 'all stereotyped' and lately, its not looking good. Guilty by association.
So until we have some Moslems that can stand alone and as 'individuals' renounce their own people as 'the Middle-Eastern, non-Australian' versions.
They ALL get grouped together, especially when they are still reluctant to take the initiative against their own people who practice extremism/terrorism.

Australia nearly made the necessary changes during the Cronulla Riots - but the Aust Govt/Media soon squashed that effort. It seems they feel more comfortable with that behaviour coming from 'Brownies', rather than their own population.
Can't have 'poor' Australians showing Politicians how to run this country now, can we. ::)

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide? Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::) Ah. You mean the Abu stereotype. Lies about Islam are only permitted in the context of war, and the west has been at war with the Muslim world for 100 years. All these Muslim stereotypes being trotted out constantly. It's hard to know which one you are on about isn't it Brian? I bet even you have forgotten by now.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  I should know not to bother with you FD.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide? Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::) Ah. You mean the Abu stereotype. Lies about Islam are only permitted in the context of war, and the west has been at war with the Muslim world for 100 years. All these Muslim stereotypes being trotted out constantly. It's hard to know which one you are on about isn't it Brian? I bet even you have forgotten by now. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  I should know not to bother with you FD.   ::) ::)

You don't want to offend him, Brian. Save that for the Muselman.

Don't ask him a question, whatever you do.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 11:01pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide? Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::) Ah. You mean the Abu stereotype. Lies about Islam are only permitted in the context of war, and the west has been at war with the Muslim world for 100 years. All these Muslim stereotypes being trotted out constantly. It's hard to know which one you are on about isn't it Brian? I bet even you have forgotten by now. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  I should know not to bother with you FD.   ::) ::)

You mean the Falah stereotype don't you? Indonesian Muslims lead Australian aborigines to a glorious military victory of whitey and helped them build their universities and embassies and set up quarantine. And oh what a shame it is that they didn't encourage the aborigines to be more violent.

I think it's your turn now Brian. What stereoptype were you thinking of? There is such a lot to chose from, isn't there, when every Muslim we come across is a stereotype?

freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide? Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::) Ah. You mean the Abu stereotype. Lies about Islam are only permitted in the context of war, and the west has been at war with the Muslim world for 100 years. All these Muslim stereotypes being trotted out constantly. It's hard to know which one you are on about isn't it Brian? I bet even you have forgotten by now. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  I should know not to bother with you FD.   ::) ::) You mean the Falah stereotype don't you? Indonesian Muslims lead Australian aborigines to a glorious military victory of whitey and helped them build their universities and embassies and set up quarantine. And oh what a shame it is that they didn't encourage the aborigines to be more violent. I think it's your turn now Brian. What stereoptype were you thinking of? There is such a lot to chose from, isn't there, when every Muslim we come across is a stereotype?

That's right, FD. You have 3.

It is a jolly world, no?

You exist by group or mass mentality.
Then you deserve the 'stereotype' at every cause and effect.
All Moslems are Terrorists!

Indonesia bans Hizbut Tahrir amid crackdown on hard-line Islamist groups   8-)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

Indonesia bans Hizbut Tahrir amid crackdown on hard-line Islamist groups   8-)

That's because the Indo govt is scared of the circling sharks of the other nations and sub tribal groups in the region. Those Indo tribes were around a lot longer than the Govt or the Moslems and they are coming together in unity against the Extremism.
It's gonna be a bloodbath when all the other wars break out and they cut loose with the other surrounding nations.
I hope it doesn't turn into savagery where 'innocents' are killed. But with the Melanesians, I'm sure they'll want revenge.

Indonesia bans extremist organisations in first concrete move against hard-line Islamist

Can I get a tooth fairy with that?

Jasin wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm: Indonesia bans Hizbut Tahrir amid crackdown on hard-line Islamist groups   8-) That's because the Indo govt is scared of the circling sharks of the other nations and sub tribal groups in the region. Those Indo tribes were around a lot longer than the Govt or the Moslems and they are coming together in unity against the Extremism. It's gonna be a bloodbath when all the other wars break out and they cut loose with the other surrounding nations. I hope it doesn't turn into savagery where 'innocents' are killed. But with the Melanesians, I'm sure they'll want revenge.

Can you name these tribal groups which have been around since before the Muslims, thanks.

rhino wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 9:34pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 2:41pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1499849767/102#102 date=1500436645] That's because the Indo govt is scared of the circling sharks of the other nations and sub tribal groups in the region. Those Indo tribes were around a lot longer than the Govt or the Moslems and they are coming together in unity against the Extremism. It's gonna be a bloodbath when all the other wars break out and they cut loose with the other surrounding nations. I hope it doesn't turn into savagery where 'innocents' are killed. But with the Melanesians, I'm sure they'll want revenge. Can you name these tribal groups which have been around since before the Muslims, thanks.

Yeah. Monkeys.  ;D ;D ;D

Don't you want to talk about stereotypes any more Brian?

freediver wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Don't you want to talk about stereotypes any more Brian?

You've scared him off, Freediver. The apologists always run and hide when they've been owned. Try getting a straight answer out of them. EVER. :D :D :D

Bwian is a lying hypocrite as anyone on any site he's ever posted on can attest...

Nothing he says has any credibility.

Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can.


They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:(

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freediver wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Don't you want to talk about stereotypes any more Brian?

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Why bother, FD?  We all know what your stereotypes are.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 11:44am:

Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:(

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead?

What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Why bother, FD?  We all know what your stereotypes are.

Are these the ones you were talking about Brian?


freediver wrote on Jul 18^th, 2017 at 7:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 11:01pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:26pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:19pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:11pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Brian only addresses the stereotypes of his imagination. The only purpose of other people in the discussion are to inspire his recollection of stereotypes. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Spoken like a true Islamophobe, FD.  Tsk, tsk.  What about your stereotypes of Muslims?   ::) You mean like the Gandalf stereotype, using the mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews excuse to justify Muhammad's genocide? Nope.  Try again, FD.  I'm sure you'll recognise it when you read it.  I know I do.   ::) Ah. You mean the Abu stereotype. Lies about Islam are only permitted in the context of war, and the west has been at war with the Muslim world for 100 years. All these Muslim stereotypes being trotted out constantly. It's hard to know which one you are on about isn't it Brian? I bet even you have forgotten by now. Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  I should know not to bother with you FD.   ::) ::) You mean the Falah stereotype don't you? Indonesian Muslims lead Australian aborigines to a glorious military victory of whitey and helped them build their universities and embassies and set up quarantine. And oh what a shame it is that they didn't encourage the aborigines to be more violent. I think it's your turn now Brian. What stereoptype were you thinking of? There is such a lot to chose from, isn't there, when every Muslim we come across is a stereotype?

Or were you referring to Yassmin?

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Move along folks, move along.  Nothing to see of interest here, just Freediver displaying his Islamophobia for all to see.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 9:09pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::)

Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards.

NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians


Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:47am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::) Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards. NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english.

You will never have to say it as long as the lying hypocrite is around...  he reads minds you know ::) ::) ::)  he doesn't do it well though.

:D :D :D :D :D bwian :D :D :D :D :D bwian  :D :D :D :D :D

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:47am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::) Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards. NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english.

Brian also thinks we have no right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:47am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::) Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards.

All Indonesia/Indonesians, BigOl64?   Or just the military?  Or just the Government?   Or just the settlers?   Or just the entire Indonesian population?   Interesting question, isn't it?   Or do you just believe in labelling an entire nation as "murdering bastards"?   Much easier that way, isn't it?   Afterall, that way you don't actually have sort the problem out, you just scream loud enough in the hope that someone will hear you, right?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


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NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians

Are you offended when people ask you questions to clarify exactly what you're suggesting, BigOl64?  How are we to ascertain how big a fool you are, otherwise?    So, no air attack, no ground attack, no occupation, no conversion.

So, exactly what are you proposing to make the Indonesian nation obey your claim that they are all "murdering bastards" and to cease their occupation of West New Guinea?   I'm interested in finding our exactly what you want do happen and how it is going to happen.  Or are you just going to keep screaming about Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea?   ::)


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Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english.

Oh, and I though you knew all about English, BigOl64.  Afterall, you were in the RAAF weren't you, where all the intelligent people go?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

In the of repeated words of Bwian....

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Move along folks, move along.  Nothing to see of interest here, just bwian displaying his Infidelophobia for all to see.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:43pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 4:47am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::) Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards. All Indonesia/Indonesians, BigOl64?   Or just the military?  Or just the Government?   Or just the settlers?   Or just the entire Indonesian population?   Interesting question, isn't it?   Or do you just believe in labelling an entire nation as "murdering bastards"?   Much easier that way, isn't it?   Afterall, that way you don't actually have sort the problem out, you just scream loud enough in the hope that someone will hear you, right?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Quote: NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians Are you offended when people ask you questions to clarify exactly what you're suggesting, BigOl64?  How are we to ascertain how big a fool you are, otherwise?    So, no air attack, no ground attack, no occupation, no conversion. So, exactly what are you proposing to make the Indonesian nation obey your claim that they are all "murdering bastards" and to cease their occupation of West New Guinea?   I'm interested in finding our exactly what you want do happen and how it is going to happen.  Or are you just going to keep screaming about Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea?   ::) [quote] Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english.

Oh, and I though you knew all about English, BigOl64.  Afterall, you were in the RAAF weren't you, where all the intelligent people go?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)
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So when I stated indonesia you have no idea who or what Im talking about? Jeezus fkking christ seriously?


Show me where I even fkken suggest and invasion of indonesia genius, you questioning was moronic to say the least and worthy of my contempt.


Never used the word all


My grasp of english is fine yours however is fkking appalling, your primary school should be ashamed of you.


You in all likelihood need the assistance of someone with at least a decent primary school education, none of which you have accused me of can be inferred from what I wrote you fkken clown.

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 4:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:43pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 4:47am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::) Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards. All Indonesia/Indonesians, BigOl64?   Or just the military?  Or just the Government?   Or just the settlers?   Or just the entire Indonesian population?   Interesting question, isn't it?   Or do you just believe in labelling an entire nation as "murdering bastards"?   Much easier that way, isn't it?   Afterall, that way you don't actually have sort the problem out, you just scream loud enough in the hope that someone will hear you, right?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Quote: NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians Are you offended when people ask you questions to clarify exactly what you're suggesting, BigOl64?  How are we to ascertain how big a fool you are, otherwise?    So, no air attack, no ground attack, no occupation, no conversion. So, exactly what are you proposing to make the Indonesian nation obey your claim that they are all "murdering bastards" and to cease their occupation of West New Guinea?   I'm interested in finding our exactly what you want do happen and how it is going to happen.  Or are you just going to keep screaming about Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea?   ::) [quote] Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english. Oh, and I though you knew all about English, BigOl64.  Afterall, you were in the RAAF weren't you, where all the intelligent people go?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

So when I stated indonesia you have no idea who or what Im talking about? Jeezus fkking christ seriously?
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No, I just wanted to make sure we knew what you were talking about, BigOl64.   What you believe is explicit in your statement isn't really all that clear to people who know and understand reality, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

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Show me where I even fkken suggest and invasion of indonesia genius, you questioning was moronic to say the least and worthy of my contempt.

I think your command of English is being a little strained, BigOl64.  You mean, don't you, "an invasion" rather than "and invasion", don't you?  And there I was assuming your claim to being smarter and more knowledgeable about English was correct.

I ask questions because I want information.   You appear to believe you don't need to explain what your thinking is but unless we ask, we'll never understand it.  Tsk, tsk.    ::)


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Never used the word all My grasp of english is fine yours however is fkking appalling, your primary school should be ashamed of you.

But you did use the word, "and", now didn't you?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


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You in all likelihood need the assistance of someone with at least a decent primary school education, none of which you have accused me of can be inferred from what I wrote you fkken clown.

Despite being dyslexic, BigOl64, I have several post-graduate degrees.  How many do you have?  I rarely resort to ad hominem debate, why do you?  Does it make you feel like a big man to swear and insult people all the time, BigOl64?   Tsk, tsk.

Now, as it appears you don't like answering questions to clarify exactly what you're thinking about, BigOl64, it appears I'll have to consign you to the barely literate crowd on here, hardly worth bothering with.   I've treated you with respect until you decided to tell me how to be a Soldier.   I've treated you with respect until you started rabbiting on about Indonesia and West New Guinea without offering any idea of what your thinking actually entailed.  Tsk, tsk.   Once you start acting like an adult, I'll just treat you like the child you act.  ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 4:48pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 2:43pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 4:47am: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 9:09pm: BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am: Indonesia is an extremist organisation it kills innocent people and steals their wealth because it can. They will continue to murder while they view Australia as weak and compliant, well done Australia.  >:( >:( Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  OK, what is your alternative, BigOl64?  Send in the F-111s?   Ooops, we retired them, now didn't we?  Send in the F/A-18s?   How about we wait for the F-35s instead? What are your occupation plans, after we defeat the Indonesians?  Mmm?  Convert them all to Christianity perhaps?   ::) Looks like another apologist is tossing red herrings around to cover up that fact that indonesia are murdering bastards. All Indonesia/Indonesians, BigOl64?   Or just the military?  Or just the Government?   Or just the settlers?   Or just the entire Indonesian population?   Interesting question, isn't it?   Or do you just believe in labelling an entire nation as "murdering bastards"?   Much easier that way, isn't it?   Afterall, that way you don't actually have sort the problem out, you just scream loud enough in the hope that someone will hear you, right?  Tsk, tsk.   ::) Quote: NEVER said I wanted to invaded that fkking sh1thole and NEVER said I want to occupy that sh1thole and NEVER said I wanted those religious lunatics to be christians Are you offended when people ask you questions to clarify exactly what you're suggesting, BigOl64?  How are we to ascertain how big a fool you are, otherwise?    So, no air attack, no ground attack, no occupation, no conversion. So, exactly what are you proposing to make the Indonesian nation obey your claim that they are all "murdering bastards" and to cease their occupation of West New Guinea?   I'm interested in finding our exactly what you want do happen and how it is going to happen.  Or are you just going to keep screaming about Indonesian occupation of West New Guinea?   ::) [quote] Rsk tsk, who the fkk taught you english. Oh, and I though you knew all about English, BigOl64.  Afterall, you were in the RAAF weren't you, where all the intelligent people go?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) So when I stated indonesia you have no idea who or what Im talking about? Jeezus fkking christ seriously?

No, I just wanted to make sure we knew what you were talking about, BigOl64.   What you believe is explicit in your statement isn't really all that clear to people who know and understand reality, you realise?  Tsk, tsk.    ::)

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Show me where I even fkken suggest and invasion of indonesia genius, you questioning was moronic to say the least and worthy of my contempt.

I think your command of English is being a little strained, BigOl64.  You mean, don't you, "an invasion" rather than "and invasion", don't you?  And there I was assuming your claim to being smarter and more knowledgeable about English was correct.

I ask questions because I want information.   You appear to believe you don't need to explain what your thinking is but unless we ask, we'll never understand it.  Tsk, tsk.    ::)


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Never used the word all My grasp of english is fine yours however is fkking appalling, your primary school should be ashamed of you.

But you did use the word, "and", now didn't you?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


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You in all likelihood need the assistance of someone with at least a decent primary school education, none of which you have accused me of can be inferred from what I wrote you fkken clown.

Despite being dyslexic, BigOl64, I have several post-graduate degrees.  How many do you have?  I rarely resort to ad hominem debate, why do you?  Does it make you feel like a big man to swear and insult people all the time, BigOl64?   Tsk, tsk.

Now, as it appears you don't like answering questions to clarify exactly what you're thinking about, BigOl64, it appears I'll have to consign you to the barely literate crowd on here, hardly worth bothering with.   I've treated you with respect until you decided to tell me how to be a Soldier.   I've treated you with respect until you started rabbiting on about Indonesia and West New Guinea without offering any idea of what your thinking actually entailed.  Tsk, tsk.   Once you start acting like an adult, I'll just treat you like the child you act.  ::)[/quote]


You wrote all that to point out a fkken typo.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



That's fkken classic.



Read what I write, and ONLY what I write, no need to make sh1t up in the form of cretinous questions.


You have never shown me respect and I treat you with a level of contempt that is restrained, be thankful for that.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor, poor, BigOl64.  So much for the Brylcreem, hey?   ::)

In the oft repeated words of Bwian....

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Move along folks, move along.  Nothing to see of interest here, just bwian displaying his Infidelophobia for all to see.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

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Are you offended when people ask you questions to clarify exactly what you're suggesting, BigOl64?  How are we to ascertain how big a fool you are, otherwise?

Brian never could explain what he meant by having no right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions.

Bwian does a great deal of criticising...  a great deal of trashing people in his posts...  I think bwian is a lying hypocrite.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:

moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::)

What is your Ba (Hons) in Brian?

Justsayno wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) What is your Ba (Hons) in Brian?

History and Politics.  Why?

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:37pm:

Justsayno wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) What is your Ba (Hons) in Brian? History and Politics.  Why?

Curious

Justsayno wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:37pm: Justsayno wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 3:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:05pm: moses wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm: Well he reckons he's got more degrees than a thermometer. Do I? When, Moses? I have a Ba. A Ba(Hons), a Grad.Dip., a Master of Defence Studies and a Doctor of Divinity.  Those are all the degrees I have ever admitted to. What qualifications do you hold, out of a matter of interest?   Or are you just demonstrating your anti-Intellectualism for all to see?   ::) What is your Ba (Hons) in Brian? History and Politics.  Why? Curious

You're always curious, Matty.

Who's Matty?

Oh nooooo.....


Islamic State: Indonesian mosques accused of supporting radical group's ideology
Dozens of mosques across Indonesia are under surveillance for supporting the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group, spreading its ideology and recruiting fighters to go to Syria.

Key points:
Researchers attended mosques and Koran reading groups for information
IS sympathisers increasingly holding private meetings
Mosque accused of preaching the IS ideology denies claims
The ABC can reveal 41 mosques across 16 Indonesian provinces have been implicated in research conducted on behalf of the Indonesian Government.

Of those, 16 mosques in seven provinces have been officially confirmed as supporting the IS group by a team of researchers who have, and continue to, secretly infiltrate the places of worship.

In an exclusive interview with the ABC, the head of the research team and Indonesian terrorism analyst Adhe Bhakti said Islamic boarding schools and Koran reading groups were also being used as places to preach the radical IS ideology.

"We found different forms, different functions of the mosques," Mr Bhakti said.

"Some were purely used as a place to spread ideology, some were used as a place of consolidation, even the caretakers of the mosque would act as travel agents for those willing to go to Syria.

"They even raised funds for those who did not have the money to go, so they can depart for Syria."
For months, Mr Bhakti and his team have sat in mosques and Koran reading groups under the cover of being like-minded worshippers and documented the discussions and sermons.

"We are members of their Koran reading groups, we join their activities, we had interviews with congregations, so we obtained information in many ways," he said.

"We observe it ourselves or through our sources and the interviews that we conducted."

IS meetings have gone underground
Mr Bhakti said at times audio recordings of the radical teachings were captured but they could not be given to the ABC as they were the property of the Indonesian Government.

In February last year, the ABC exclusively filmed at the As-Syuhad mosque in central Jakarta as an Islamic State recruitment drive was underway.