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Message started by greggerypeccary on Aug 4th, 2017 at 11:46am

Title: This Shocked Me
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4th, 2017 at 11:46am

Teen Michelle Carter gets 15 months over texting-suicide case

"You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don't get why you aren't," Carter wrote in one text.

She actually used the word 'like' in a text    :o


(Tragic story, by the way.)

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Gordon on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:01pm
https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:08pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:01pm:
https://youtu.be/Qb21lsCQ3EM


Gotta love Moon Unit    :)

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Alinta on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:15pm
I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by mothra on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:20pm

Alinta wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.



She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by gandalf on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:07pm

mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.



She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?


My guess is she suffers from the same or similar mental illness the boy suffered from. Its likely they had discussed suicide together at length before, and that they were both contemplating suicide. Its almost certain that there was nothing vindictive about this, and she genuinely thought she was looking after him.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.



She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?


My guess is she suffers from the same or similar mental illness the boy suffered from. Its likely they had discussed suicide together at length before, and that they were both contemplating suicide. Its almost certain that there was nothing vindictive about this, and she genuinely thought she was looking after him.


That's the way I saw it too.

She called him 'babe'.


Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by mothra on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
I watched the 48 Hours episode on this case.....well worth a look IMO.



She can't be well herself, can she? Or is she just a colossal bitch?


My guess is she suffers from the same or similar mental illness the boy suffered from. Its likely they had discussed suicide together at length before, and that they were both contemplating suicide. Its almost certain that there was nothing vindictive about this, and she genuinely thought she was looking after him.



I'm inclined to agree. Highly possible it's part of a suicide pact.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Alinta on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:51pm
I'd be very interested to hear your view.........

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/death-by-text/

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by mothra on Aug 4th, 2017 at 2:05pm
Thanks Alinta. Will check it out when i get home.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by mothra on Aug 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm

Alinta wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
I'd be very interested to hear your view.........

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/death-by-text/


Ok. watched it.

The first thing i want to say is 48 hrs grates on me. I've tried to watch it a few times over the years because i'm interested in true crime but it's just not objective. It's absolutely chockers with prejudicial information and begins by making a case, then presenting it, rather than just laying out the facts and letting the viewer form their own natural conclusion. You know pretty quickly, in other words, what they want you to think.

So, i watched it with that in mind.

The defence was preposterous. But then again, 48hours didn't really thresh it out, and they ridiculed it. Still, it was silly. Had she pled some sort of suicide pact, she would have had a defence. As it stands, it looks very much like she was using him to get attention.

Still, obviously not all the way sane herself, i reckon she knew exactly what she was doing but just couldn't really fathom the depth of the consequences. I think she started getting attention from people when she talked to them about er suicidal boyfriend but that was probably starting to get boring to her listeners. So she upped the ante.

Cold. Ice cold.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Alinta on Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:03pm

mothra wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm:

Alinta wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
I'd be very interested to hear your view.........

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/death-by-text/


Ok. watched it.

The first thing i want to say is 48 hrs grates on me. I've tried to watch it a few times over the years because i'm interested in true crime but it's just not objective. It's absolutely chockers with prejudicial information and begins by making a case, then presenting it, rather than just laying out the facts and letting the viewer form their own natural conclusion. You know pretty quickly, in other words, what they want you to think.

So, i watched it with that in mind.

The defence was preposterous. But then again, 48hours didn't really thresh it out, and they ridiculed it. Still, it was silly. Had she pled some sort of suicide pact, she would have had a defence. As it stands, it looks very much like she was using him to get attention.

Still, obviously not all the way sane herself, i reckon she knew exactly what she was doing but just couldn't really fathom the depth of the consequences. I think she started getting attention from people when she talked to them about er suicidal boyfriend but that was probably starting to get boring to her listeners. So she upped the ante.

Cold. Ice cold.


Thanks for your response Mothra, I'm in agreement with all you've said here.

The point you make in relation to 48 Hours (or any other TV True Crime show) resonates strongly with me and is the primary reason that, whenever possible, I link such cases to the official court transcript. 

   


Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by mothra on Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:16pm
Alinta, you may find some of these podcasts interesting:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/truecrime/

I haven't actually listened to any of these but i've heard a fair bit of John Safran cover true crime. He approaches it for a really interesting angle. Anyway, i really resonate with his style.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Gordon on Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:30pm
I trust you've listened to this?

https://serialpodcast.org/season-one

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Culture Warrior on Aug 4th, 2017 at 7:33pm
This nastiness doesn't surprise me. Women are absolutely ruthless toward beta males.

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Valkie on Aug 5th, 2017 at 7:47pm
I have always stated that if someone pushes me so bad that I contemplate suicide.

I will take tgem out first and see if feel like it afterward.

Chances are that once they are gone, I wont feel suicidal any more.

This is my plan

Title: Re: This Shocked Me
Post by Ajax on Aug 6th, 2017 at 8:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 11:46am:
Teen Michelle Carter gets 15 months over texting-suicide case

"You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don't get why you aren't," Carter wrote in one text.

She actually used the word 'like' in a text    :o


(Tragic story, by the way.)


I think the sentence was a bit too light.

Those eyebrows.......pure evil I tells ya............ :D

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