http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/vic-opposition-leader-dined-with-alleged-mafia-head-madafferi/8782824

Matthew Guy attended a secret dinner earlier this year with the alleged head of Melbourne's Mafia over several bottles of Penfolds Grange at a lobster restaurant in Melbourne's south-east.

Key points:

Tony Madafferi has been linked to "serious criminal conduct including drug importation, murder and extortion"
Matthew Guy, along with other Australian politicians, has previously been warned about associating with alleged Mafia figures
Madafferi and Mr Guy were among a small group at a secret dinner at Lobster Cave in Melbourne earlier this year
Mr Guy dined with Tony Madafferi, a wealthy market gardener and the owner of the La Porchetta pizza chain, even though Mr Madafferi has repeatedly been accused by police in court of being a high-ranking member of Melbourne's Mafia.

Is that the same bloke Mal dines with ?

Liberals rubbing shoulders with criminals , sounds like a match made in heaven

Who is Matthew Guy?   A squeaking little pipsqueak of a man who apparently, is the best thing the Liberals have in Victoria for a "Leader"   

This holes the Liberals' campaign against crime below the waterline.

meanwhile lets all pretend the unions are the standover merchants. ....  :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 9:44am:

meanwhile lets all pretend the unions are the standover merchants. ....  :D :D :D

Anyone for morning tea with John Setka or uncle Milt?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrqB2LkVMAA5wbo.jpg

'Buckets' Jackson was always entertaining when he hosted afternoon tea with his fellow convicts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjFp-0kWEAErb0_.jpg

Th MAFIA bloke was probably representing Labor.

I hear that child sex offenders Keith Wright and Bill D'Arcy have applied for a licence to run a child minding centre.

juliar wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

Th MAFIA bloke was probably representing Labor.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrqEy3BVMAAzMNH.jpg

Wasn't it alleged ALP luminary RJL Hawke who rubbed shoulders with people of ill repute? Is any of those encounters in Hawke's memoirs? What page number is it on.

The AFR ran a front page story a couple of weeks back saying
that former Prime Minister Bob Hawke was associated as an Australian representative of a
major American con man who is facing criminal charges.

Whilst the link was relatively tenuous and Hawkie professed ignorance,
the revelations in a new book, The Accidental Gangster, by Sydney crime figure Bela Csidei are more startling. The Bulletin has this week carried an extract which lays out more of the late Sir Peter Abeles’ notorious network.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2006/02/09/bob-hawkes-colourful-mates/

https://webmobilize.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/blood-liberal-party-grassrots.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:33am:

juliar wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 11:26am: Th MAFIA bloke was probably representing Labor. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrqEy3BVMAAzMNH.jpg

All above board and perfectly legit  :-?

salad in wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

I hear that child sex offenders Keith Wright and Bill D'Arcy have applied for a licence to run a child minding centre.

Labor are no better than the Liberals but this thread is about the LNP links to the Mafia....Your deliberate attempt the distract shows you have nothing to add to any topic!!!

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Wasn't it alleged ALP luminary RJL Hawke who entertained people of dubious character?

Former Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke acknowledged that in 1978, through Tham, he met with Sal Amarena, a mafia associate, in what Mr Hawke described as an incidental meeting.[16] Mr Hawke, then President of the Australian Council of Trade Unions, was en route to Vancouver to attend a conference of the Socialist International congress and had a stop-over in San Francisco.[17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rudy_Tham

I can find the page in the Hawke Memoirs where he saved the world (page 13) but I can't find any reference to Hawke eschewing his chance meeting with a mafia heavy. Strange.

By tradition.
The 'Criminal Element' is amongst the 'poor' in Sydney.
While its the 'rich' in Melbourne.

...can see why the Victorian Liberal was 'just visiting' on the Monopoly Board.

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

salad in wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 11:26am: I hear that child sex offenders Keith Wright and Bill D'Arcy have applied for a licence to run a child minding centre. Labor are no better than the Liberals but this thread is about the LNP links to the Mafia....Your deliberate attempt the distract shows you have nothing to add to any topic!!! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

The sad part of that is that most of the Labor miscreants of the various OPs have faced the judicial system and are in jail for it.  Whereas if you are in the Coalition, you can get away with basically anything as long as you have the money to pay for it or just refuse to resign.    Bottle of Grange anyone?  Work for Australian Water Holdings?   Fly a Helicopter to a liberal kneesup?

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

salad in wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 11:26am: I hear that child sex offenders Keith Wright and Bill D'Arcy have applied for a licence to run a child minding centre. Labor are no better than the Liberals but this thread is about the LNP links to the Mafia....Your deliberate attempt the distract shows you have nothing to add to any topic!!! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif]

I'm better at this than you.

Do you want me to go fishing and find a topic where you have expanded the conversation or would you just rather be tagged as a whited sepulchre?

salad in wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:46am:

Wasn't it alleged ALP luminary RJL Hawke who entertained people of dubious character? Former Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke acknowledged that in 1978, through Tham, he met with Sal Amarena, a mafia associate, in what Mr Hawke described as an incidental meeting.[16] Mr Hawke, then President of the Australian Council of Trade Unions, was en route to Vancouver to attend a conference of the Socialist International congress and had a stop-over in San Francisco.[17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rudy_Tham I can find the page in the Hawke Memoirs where he saved the world (page 13) but I can't find any reference to Hawke eschewing his chance meeting with a mafia heavy. Strange.

there is a big difference between an incidental meeting with someone when you attend a dinner or a party, or even a meeting with someone else. As MP's they attend lots of functions, parties and conferences, they cannot know every person who will be present at every one.

compare that to knowingly accepting donations for access  :D :D :D

And the lies about not knowing he would be there begin to unravel :D :D :D :D


In transcripts of the phone recordings, the Liberal Party figure who organised the dinner, Barrie Macmillan, says he personally briefed Mr Guy's office about Mr Madafferi's presence at the dinner, and stressed the need to keep the meeting confidential.

"I had to forward the names to [Matthew Guy's private secretary]. I had to do it all through [her]. It was all kept fairly hush hush," says Mr Macmillan, who also attended the dinner.

"I explained the whole thing [to Mr Guy's secretary] and I said, the whole thing to her. And said, I don't want to put anything in writing here, so let's just talk on the phone and I then picked the venue and gave them the list of the people.
"Everyone I gave [to Mr Guy's office]: Antonio Madafferi, that's his full name; Frank Lamattina; Bruno Diaco.

"So this all started off in a big way with Matt, in helping Matt to become the next premier."

However, Mr Guy insisted to reporters today that there was no way of him knowing the alleged crime figure would be at the Lobster Cave.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/matthew-guy-alleged-mafia-head-dinner-phone-call/8785700

John Smith wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

And the lies about not knowing he would be there begin to unravel :D :D :D :D In transcripts of the phone recordings, the Liberal Party figure who organised the dinner, Barrie Macmillan, says he personally briefed Mr Guy's office about Mr Madafferi's presence at the dinner, and stressed the need to keep the meeting confidential. "I had to forward the names to [Matthew Guy's private secretary]. I had to do it all through [her]. It was all kept fairly hush hush," says Mr Macmillan, who also attended the dinner. "I explained the whole thing [to Mr Guy's secretary] and I said, the whole thing to her. And said, I don't want to put anything in writing here, so let's just talk on the phone and I then picked the venue and gave them the list of the people. "Everyone I gave [to Mr Guy's office]: Antonio Madafferi, that's his full name; Frank Lamattina; Bruno Diaco. "So this all started off in a big way with Matt, in helping Matt to become the next premier." However, Mr Guy insisted to reporters today that there was no way of him knowing the alleged crime figure would be at the Lobster Cave. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/matthew-guy-alleged-mafia-head-dinner-phone-call/8785700

:o

John Smith wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

And the lies about not knowing he would be there begin to unravel :D :D :D :D In transcripts of the phone recordings, the Liberal Party figure who organised the dinner, Barrie Macmillan, says he personally briefed Mr Guy's office about Mr Madafferi's presence at the dinner, and stressed the need to keep the meeting confidential. "I had to forward the names to [Matthew Guy's private secretary]. I had to do it all through [her]. It was all kept fairly hush hush," says Mr Macmillan, who also attended the dinner. "I explained the whole thing [to Mr Guy's secretary] and I said, the whole thing to her. And said, I don't want to put anything in writing here, so let's just talk on the phone and I then picked the venue and gave them the list of the people. "Everyone I gave [to Mr Guy's office]: Antonio Madafferi, that's his full name; Frank Lamattina; Bruno Diaco. "So this all started off in a big way with Matt, in helping Matt to become the next premier." However, Mr Guy insisted to reporters today that there was no way of him knowing the alleged crime figure would be at the Lobster Cave. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/matthew-guy-alleged-mafia-head-dinner-phone-call/8785700

Guy is telling porkies. If his private secretary knew Madafferi was there, he should have known too.

It's starting to look like we need a Royal Commission into the Mafia's links to the Liberal party.

Bam wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 4:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 3:53pm: And the lies about not knowing he would be there begin to unravel :D :D :D :D In transcripts of the phone recordings, the Liberal Party figure who organised the dinner, Barrie Macmillan, says he personally briefed Mr Guy's office about Mr Madafferi's presence at the dinner, and stressed the need to keep the meeting confidential. "I had to forward the names to [Matthew Guy's private secretary]. I had to do it all through [her]. It was all kept fairly hush hush," says Mr Macmillan, who also attended the dinner. "I explained the whole thing [to Mr Guy's secretary] and I said, the whole thing to her. And said, I don't want to put anything in writing here, so let's just talk on the phone and I then picked the venue and gave them the list of the people. "Everyone I gave [to Mr Guy's office]: Antonio Madafferi, that's his full name; Frank Lamattina; Bruno Diaco. "So this all started off in a big way with Matt, in helping Matt to become the next premier." However, Mr Guy insisted to reporters today that there was no way of him knowing the alleged crime figure would be at the Lobster Cave. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/matthew-guy-alleged-mafia-head-dinner-phone-call/8785700 Guy is telling porkies. If his private secretary knew Madafferi was there, he should have known too. It's starting to look like we need a Royal Commission into the Mafia's links to the Liberal party.

We need to have a good look at the criminals liberal party , state and federal

Its time wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Bam wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 3:53pm: And the lies about not knowing he would be there begin to unravel :D :D :D :D In transcripts of the phone recordings, the Liberal Party figure who organised the dinner, Barrie Macmillan, says he personally briefed Mr Guy's office about Mr Madafferi's presence at the dinner, and stressed the need to keep the meeting confidential. "I had to forward the names to [Matthew Guy's private secretary]. I had to do it all through [her]. It was all kept fairly hush hush," says Mr Macmillan, who also attended the dinner. "I explained the whole thing [to Mr Guy's secretary] and I said, the whole thing to her. And said, I don't want to put anything in writing here, so let's just talk on the phone and I then picked the venue and gave them the list of the people. "Everyone I gave [to Mr Guy's office]: Antonio Madafferi, that's his full name; Frank Lamattina; Bruno Diaco. "So this all started off in a big way with Matt, in helping Matt to become the next premier." However, Mr Guy insisted to reporters today that there was no way of him knowing the alleged crime figure would be at the Lobster Cave. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/matthew-guy-alleged-mafia-head-dinner-phone-call/8785700 Guy is telling porkies. If his private secretary knew Madafferi was there, he should have known too. It's starting to look like we need a Royal Commission into the Mafia's links to the Liberal party. We need to have a good look at the liberal criminals party , state and federal

fixed it for you! ;)

Shocking!!!

John Smith wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

Its time wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Bam wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 4:45pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 3:53pm: And the lies about not knowing he would be there begin to unravel :D :D :D :D In transcripts of the phone recordings, the Liberal Party figure who organised the dinner, Barrie Macmillan, says he personally briefed Mr Guy's office about Mr Madafferi's presence at the dinner, and stressed the need to keep the meeting confidential. "I had to forward the names to [Matthew Guy's private secretary]. I had to do it all through [her]. It was all kept fairly hush hush," says Mr Macmillan, who also attended the dinner. "I explained the whole thing [to Mr Guy's secretary] and I said, the whole thing to her. And said, I don't want to put anything in writing here, so let's just talk on the phone and I then picked the venue and gave them the list of the people. "Everyone I gave [to Mr Guy's office]: Antonio Madafferi, that's his full name; Frank Lamattina; Bruno Diaco. "So this all started off in a big way with Matt, in helping Matt to become the next premier." However, Mr Guy insisted to reporters today that there was no way of him knowing the alleged crime figure would be at the Lobster Cave. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/matthew-guy-alleged-mafia-head-dinner-phone-call/8785700 Guy is telling porkies. If his private secretary knew Madafferi was there, he should have known too. It's starting to look like we need a Royal Commission into the Mafia's links to the Liberal party. We need to have a good look at the liberal criminals party , state and federal fixed it for you! ;)

Much better  ;)

juliar wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Shocking!!!

Poor Juliar must have had to change its pants at Lib HQ today from the fright it got from the exposure of yet more Liberal party corruption. Did poor Juliar just wet itself or did poor Juliar go all the way to a bowel evacuation?

would have thought coalition supporters would have flat out denials here...guess too much evidence to the contrary.

Bam wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 9:44pm:

juliar wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 8:57pm: Shocking!!! Poor Juliar must have had to change its pants at Lib HQ today from the fright it got from the exposure of yet more Liberal party corruption. Did poor Juliar just wet itself or did poor Juliar go all the way to a bowel evacuation?

Was this before or after he was on floor in foetal sucking his thumb ? Boy o boy these rtards going to take their election loss hard

salad in wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 11:43am: salad in wrote on Aug 8th, 2017 at 11:26am: I hear that child sex offenders Keith Wright and Bill D'Arcy have applied for a licence to run a child minding centre. Labor are no better than the Liberals but this thread is about the LNP links to the Mafia....Your deliberate attempt the distract shows you have nothing to add to any topic!!! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] I'm better at this than you. Do you want me to go fishing and find a topic where you have expanded the conversation or would you just rather be tagged as a whited sepulchre?

Feel free....You will be disappointed as usual!!!

:) :) :)

Secret tapes reveal Liberal insider's plot to deliver alleged Mafia donations to Matthew Guy

Quote:

A Liberal insider conspired to funnel donations from an alleged Mafia boss and his three relatives into party coffers after a lobster dinner involving the men and Victorian Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, secret phone records have revealed. Recordings of phone conversations obtained by Fairfax Media and Four Corners involving Liberal Party official Barrie Macmillan also capture Mr Macmillan plotting to split the promised donations into smaller amounts to avoid disclosing the source of the funds to authorities.

I predicted this.


Bam wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 9:20am:

This week, Pickering on The Weekly (ABC) was blasting the current donation rules for political parties in Australia. Apparently, our system of donations is amongst the most corruptible and least transparent in the developed world. For example, in the USA all donations of US$200 or more during an election cycle (4 years) must be declared. In Australia, the legal threshold is $12,800, per year, per branch. Someone could legally donate over $100,000 a year to a political party and it does not have to be declared, by breaking it up into smaller donations to evade reporting. That is money laundering.

Bam wrote on Jul 11^th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

You're assuming that the Liberal party's links to the Calabrian Mafia aren't going to be a problem. It is ... especially with the Liberals always raising the threshold for political donations - it hides the Mafia "donations" nicely. Vanstone's cancelling of a deporation order against a Mafioso ... very suspicious. Mafia attending Liberal party fundraisers. Very suspicious. Abbott's massive distraction with terroroism and asylum seekers - what is he hiding? Planeloads of Mafia? You thought NSW Labor's problems were bad enough with a bit of corruption, it's got nothing on the Liberal party's links to organised crime.

Has he stood down got a promotion yet ?

Liberal Party members involved with organised crime.

Who would have thunk it?

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

Feel free....You will be disappointed as usual!!! :) :) :)

Jesu Wept; it took all of 2 minutes. The subject was fudge packers and pillow biters and you added...

In 2007 both the ALP and LNP took an ETS to the election....When Mal tried to honour the LNP commitment and the ALP mandate he was shot down by Tony Abbott who went full retard on any attempt to curb Australia's carbon emissions....The LNP are hypocrites who have no respect for any mandate and can be expected to do what ever their donors tell them!!!

What the hell has an ETS got to do with chocolate cowboys?

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

Liberal Party members involved with organised crime. Who would have thunk it?

Never  :-/

Liberal Party official Barrie Macmillan, who was caught on tape conspiring to funnel donations from alleged Mafia boss Tony Madafferi to Victorian Opposition Leader Matthew Guy's campaign, has resigned from his party positions.
n recorded phone conversations obtained by Fairfax Media and Four Corners, Mr Macmillan said a promise of donations was made after the lobster dinner.

He was also recorded saying he was trying to organise a second dinner with Mr Guy, Mr Madafferi, Mr Madafferi's cousin Frank Lamattina and two other Madafferi relatives.

"Frank [Lamattina] rang me and said, 'Look, four of us guys would like to have a dinner with Matthew, and we want to push some dollars his way', and I said, 'Well, look, we have to be extremely careful there'," Mr Macmillan said in the recording.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/matthew-guy-tapes-alleged-mafia-head-dinner/8790314


When will Matthew Guy suddenly resign "to spend more time with the family"?
I'm thinking Friday PM - around 2:00ish.

I keep saying it

There are only two types of politician and senior public servant.

1) Criminals who are caught

2) Criminals who have not been caught yet

There aint no other

Vic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Liberal Party official Barrie Macmillan, who was caught on tape conspiring to funnel donations from alleged Mafia boss Tony Madafferi to Victorian Opposition Leader Matthew Guy's campaign, has resigned from his party positions. n recorded phone conversations obtained by Fairfax Media and Four Corners, Mr Macmillan said a promise of donations was made after the lobster dinner. He was also recorded saying he was trying to organise a second dinner with Mr Guy, Mr Madafferi, Mr Madafferi's cousin Frank Lamattina and two other Madafferi relatives. "Frank [Lamattina] rang me and said, 'Look, four of us guys would like to have a dinner with Matthew, and we want to push some dollars his way', and I said, 'Well, look, we have to be extremely careful there'," Mr Macmillan said in the recording. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/matthew-guy-tapes-alleged-mafia-head-dinner/8790314 When will Matthew Guy suddenly resign "to spend more time with the family"? I'm thinking Friday PM - around 2:00ish.

Perfectly reasonable explanation being fabricated coming

I guess we can probably retire this thread pretty soon.  Looks like no coalition supporter wants to agree (or disagree) with the sentiment that somehow, the libs have done something wrong.

It's a real sad lack of honesty to be honest to never acknowledge the times when coalition is at fault.  Not that it was ever a surprise - time and time again we saw the double standards, the exercised right to hypocrisy that is the very lifeline of the coalition mindset.

stunspore wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

I guess we can probably retire this thread pretty soon.  Looks like no coalition supporter wants to agree (or disagree) with the sentiment that somehow, the libs have done something wrong. It's a real sad lack of honesty to be honest to never acknowledge the times when coalition is at fault.  Not that it was ever a surprise - time and time again we saw the double standards, the exercised right to hypocrisy that is the very lifeline of the coalition mindset.

I hope you're not surprised .... the coalition corruption thread is up to page 32 and not a single comment of condemnation from the wet lettuce leaves that make up the forums liberal party fanboys.

...another example of ABC bias

Swagman wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

...another example of ABC bias

of course it is ... they made it up. The recording of Barrie Macmillian was a figment of ABC's imagination  :D :D :D

Swagman wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

...another example of ABC bias

Indeed.

And they made up the story on a Sunday, so they got paid penalty rates.

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Swagman wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:51pm:

...another example of ABC bias

Try again, numbnuts ... it was also on the front page of the Hun.

stunspore wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

I guess we can probably retire this thread pretty soon.  Looks like no coalition supporter wants to agree (or disagree) with the sentiment that somehow, the libs have done something wrong. It's a real sad lack of honesty to be honest to never acknowledge the times when coalition is at fault.  Not that it was ever a surprise - time and time again we saw the double standards, the exercised right to hypocrisy that is the very lifeline of the coalition mindset.

No need to retire the thread. Just because the Coalition supporters go to ground whenever there's yet another story implicating their sorry mob in corruption doesn't mean it's not worth discussing.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Swagman wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 8:51pm: ...another example of ABC bias Indeed. And they made up the story on a Sunday, so they got paid penalty rates. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Win win  ;)

Quote:

so they got paid penalty rates

...by the tax payer...so it's just a tax increase

So the best coalition supporters came up with was "ABC bias".  Probably better off calling it a conspiracy and say they will sue for defamation or some other nonsense.

What's the latest on this blatant transgression "grey area"

.

Swagman wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

Quote: so they got paid penalty rates ...by the tax payer...so it's just a tax increase

No, there's no tax increase.

Penalty rates are budgeted for across the year, in the same way that a coffee shop, restaurant, etc. budgets for and sets prices to cover their annual expenses.

You really don't know how penalty rates work, do you?

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

Swagman wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 9:46pm: Quote: so they got paid penalty rates ...by the tax payer...so it's just a tax increase No, there's no tax increase. Penalty rates are budgeted for across the year, in the same way that a coffee shop, restaurant, etc. budgets for and sets prices to cover their annual expenses. You really don't know how penalty rates work, do you?

That's not the only thing he doesn't really know much about.

The biggest problem with the Victorian Libs (and to some degree Federally) is the lib party members.

Lib party clearly not good at organising their own party finances - either they can't raise enough, spend (I mean rort) less or combination of both.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-liberals-face-financial-crisis-ahead-of-state-election-20170317-gv0oms.html

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/secret-report-says-broke-victorian-liberal-party-is-fast-running-out-of-money/news-story/eabe6ae663cda6a0cb062ba7dc14dcc7

And ofc Malcolm adding his money to help campaign his own  election....

As soon as they lost government, I suppose all that easy taxpayer money went with it as well.

Can't manage own party finances - and people think they can manage the economy?

Excellent diversion to non-topic of penalty rates.  Pointless.

Matthew Guy looks like to be gone from the next election as leader.

stunspore wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 7:48am:

The biggest problem with the Victorian Libs (and to some degree Federally) is the lib party members. Lib party clearly not good at organising their own party finances - either they can't raise enough, spend (I mean rort) less or combination of both. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-liberals-face-financial-crisis-ahead-of-state-election-20170317-gv0oms.html http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/secret-report-says-broke-victorian-liberal-party-is-fast-running-out-of-money/news-story/eabe6ae663cda6a0cb062ba7dc14dcc7 And ofc Malcolm adding his money to help campaign his own  election.... As soon as they lost government, I suppose all that easy taxpayer money went with it as well. Excellent diversion to non-topic of penalty rates.  Pointless. Matthew Guy looks like to be gone from the next election as leader.

libs couldn't balance a budget if their lives depended on it.

Without the ability to sell assets, they have nothing.

How is this one playing out ?

John Smith wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 7:56am:

stunspore wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:48am: The biggest problem with the Victorian Libs (and to some degree Federally) is the lib party members. Lib party clearly not good at organising their own party finances - either they can't raise enough, spend (I mean rort) less or combination of both. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-liberals-face-financial-crisis-ahead-of-state-election-20170317-gv0oms.html http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/secret-report-says-broke-victorian-liberal-party-is-fast-running-out-of-money/news-story/eabe6ae663cda6a0cb062ba7dc14dcc7 And ofc Malcolm adding his money to help campaign his own  election.... As soon as they lost government, I suppose all that easy taxpayer money went with it as well. Excellent diversion to non-topic of penalty rates.  Pointless. Matthew Guy looks like to be gone from the next election as leader. libs couldn't balance a budget if their lives depended on it. Without the ability to sell assets, they have nothing.

This is true, imagine them with a GFC  :o, thank Christ Labor were in