Next, perhaps in December . A postal survey on voter's view concerning domestic violence, and the amount of women killed in Australia each year. Should this death rate be encouraged up or down.

January. The use of the fictional bible to terrify children by teaching them about all the violence in the book. Should an age limit be introduced. Say children under 3 should be free of the torturing.

Come on people, any other ideas for future postal survey topics?

Why copper internet is value for money in the the country that actually built the asian century?

____ wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Next, perhaps in December . A postal survey on voter's view concerning domestic violence, and the amount of women killed in Australia each year. Should this death rate be encouraged up or down. January. The use of the fictional bible to terrify children by teaching them about all the violence in the book. Should an age limit be introduced. Say children under 3 should be free of the torturing. Come on people, any other ideas for future postal survey topics?

Sure, let's adopt an American presidential form of government.

That the executive power of the Federation shall be vested in a President of Australia who shall be elected for a term of six years; and he/she shall not be re-eligible.

The death penalty for not cleaning up your pet's number twos in public places.

____ wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

The death penalty for not cleaning up your pet's number twos in public places.

Everyone, atleast in little ol Perth, seems to be doing that now!

(Well, if you don't include me that is but it's mum and dads dog so i don't have to always walk it.)

A topic to stretch the Lefties' imaginations.

Still not enough threads on this topic, eh? You lefties are sure going hard at this with the vaseline. Pace yourselves!

The coalition's cowardice and financial waste ... are worthy of multiple threads.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 6:25pm:

Still not enough threads on this topic, eh? You lefties are sure going hard at this with the vaseline. Pace yourselves!

there are other threads discussing a pleb on  domestic violence? link please?

A yes/no vote on military intervention in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. Far more important than queers playing house.

TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

____ wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 5:13pm: The death penalty for not cleaning up your pet's number twos in public places. Everyone, atleast in little ol Perth, seems to be doing that now!

Indeed.

I can't remember the last time I saw a barker's egg.

Why not have a postal vote about every contentious issue?

(1) Death penalty for the most heinous crimes.
(2) Euthanasia
(3) What illicit drugs can be made legal.
(4) More or less power to the State Govts.
(5) Green energy policy.
(6) Nuclear power.
(7) debt ceiling for the Govt. ( or will it be 100% of GDP before long?)


Why do homo rights have such a high priority?

Let's have a binding plebiscite on every possible important issue.
There are far more serious issues.

Why just print one issue on piece of paper when dozens of
issues could be printed on the same piece of paper?

I'll tell you why -

the politicians don't want us to have a say -
they want to decide for us.

We live in a fake democracy.

____ wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Next, perhaps in December . A postal survey on voter's view concerning domestic violence, and the amount of women killed in Australia each year. Should this death rate be encouraged up or down. January. The use of the fictional bible to terrify children by teaching them about all the violence in the book. Should an age limit be introduced. Say children under 3 should be free of the torturing. Come on people, any other ideas for future postal survey topics?

This death rate is encouraged upwards by the current handling of family violence, which leaves out many factors while seeking to impose by force and violence a rule of non-violence and of non-force...unfortunately like ever so many such 'philosophies' that are ideologically based - it only works one way and thus does not work at all....

You cannot prevent violence and death by imposing violence against one segment of the community on a false set of premises.... seeking to control violence by exercising violence is like smacking for virginity....

Let's have 100 questions on the ballot -

let's not waste this ballot on one question about homos.

issuevoter wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 8:35pm:

A yes/no vote on military intervention in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. Far more important than queers playing house.

That's why we are having a survey: make ourselves feel better and just delay the whole tactic until we forget about all the death!

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 7:42am:

Let's have 100 questions on the ballot - let's not waste this ballot on one question about homos.

I second the motion: 1 question at a time cannot be value for money can it?

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Vic wrote on Aug 12^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

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If we have to spend this, why not add some additional questions:

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TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:42am: Let's have 100 questions on the ballot - let's not waste this ballot on one question about homos. I second the motion: 1 question at a time cannot be value for money can it?

Yes - what a waste of money.

Turnbull will never be forgiven for wasting $122 million
on a stupid question about homos.


We are $575 Billion in debt
yet he has $122 million to waste.

http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au/

If Turnbull was fair he could find another 10 questions to add to the poll
or even as many as 100 questions.
Euthanasia is one question for sure.

issuevoter wrote on Aug 10^th, 2017 at 8:35pm:

A yes/no vote on military intervention in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. Far more important than queers playing house.

touché......x2................... 8-)

Not to mention the BILLIONS the oligarchy fleeces us and this country.

We can see the storm in the tea cup but not the clouds gathering over our heads.

Vic wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

If we have to spend this, why not add some additional questions:

agreed sounds good to me.

I like those questions....... 8-)

Same-sex marriage is a completely different issue from any others that members have proposed, such as defence, immigration, etc. This is because it fundamentally deals with the issue of civil rights, liberties and equality before the law. As a libertarian, there is no greater important issue than civil rights. All other issues such as defence, immigration, etc. are decisions made by elected members (and the government) - that's why we elect them to represent us.

In Australia, homosexuals are the LAST MARGINALIZED MINORITY. Once we vote in favour in SSM, then we will have achieved full equality before the law for all citizens of the Commonwealth.

So, those who oppose this measure, I say - either you believe in liberty or you believe in autocracy?

Which is it?

Vic wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

If we have to spend this, why not add some additional questions:

You know that Federal MPs no longer receive the parliamentary pension - this was replaced in the 2000s. They now receive Superannuation in line with the average person.

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Same-sex marriage is a completely different issue from any others that members have proposed, such as defence, immigration, etc. This is because it fundamentally deals with the issue of civil rights, liberties and equality before the law. As a libertarian, there is no greater important issue than civil rights. All other issues such as defence, immigration, etc. are decisions made by elected members (and the government) - that's why we elect them to represent us. In Australia, homosexuals are the LAST MARGINALIZED MINORITY. Once we vote in favour in SSM, then we will have achieved full equality before the law for all citizens of the Commonwealth. So, those who oppose this measure, I say - either you believe in liberty or you believe in autocracy? Which is it?

Apply that principle to euthanasia.

We need a lot more questions on the ballot.

Quote:

Apply that principle to euthanasia. We need a lot more questions on the ballot.

I agree with euthanasia, but euthanasia is a different issue from granting civil rights and liberties to a minority.

Ultimately, if you want more ballot measures then make proposals for citizen-initiated referendum like they have in Switzerland and in California. I'll back you up on this proposal, and even draft a bill if you want.

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Quote: Apply that principle to euthanasia. We need a lot more questions on the ballot. I agree with euthanasia, but euthanasia is a different issue from granting civil rights and liberties to a minority. Ultimately, if you want more ballot measures then make proposals for citizen-initiated referendum like they have in Switzerland and in California. I'll back you up on this proposal, and even draft a bill if you want.

Look - I'd accept this ballot - as costly as it is -
if it had a lot more questions on it.
Euthanasia is just one extra question -
I'm sure we could make 100 more questions.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:53pm: Quote: Apply that principle to euthanasia. We need a lot more questions on the ballot. I agree with euthanasia, but euthanasia is a different issue from granting civil rights and liberties to a minority. Ultimately, if you want more ballot measures then make proposals for citizen-initiated referendum like they have in Switzerland and in California. I'll back you up on this proposal, and even draft a bill if you want. Look - I'd accept this ballot - as costly as it is - if it had a lot more questions on it. Euthanasia is just one extra question - I'm sure we could make 100 more questions.

So, let's start with one issue first - the most pressing issue currently, and deal with another things later on.

I think you're making excuses. The issue is simple: either you support equality before the law, or you don't?

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:05pm:

So, let's start with one issue first - the most pressing issue currently, and deal with another things later on. I think you're making excuses. The issue is simple: either you support equality before the law, or you don't?

No - I believe in democracy.
I'm just concerned that so much money is being wasted a non event.
It could have been voted on in parliament for free.
I would accept the outcome in that case.

I just can't see why other important questions -
questions 1000 times more important can't be put on the same ballot paper.
It wouldn't cost any more to print the extra questions.

I see it as taking away my rights to have a say,
& at the same time wasting $122 million.

The exercise is just to delay having to make a decision about ME. Don’t mistake it for a democratic exercise. We live in a representative democracy, just the representatives want to block ME.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:16pm:

Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 4:05pm: So, let's start with one issue first - the most pressing issue currently, and deal with another things later on. I think you're making excuses. The issue is simple: either you support equality before the law, or you don't? No - I believe in democracy. I'm just concerned that so much money is being wasted a non event. It could have been voted on in parliament for free. I would accept the outcome in that case. I just can't see why other important questions - questions 1000 times more important can't be put on the same ballot paper. It wouldn't cost any more to print the extra questions. I see it as taking away my rights to have a say, & at the same time wasting $122 million.

Yes, it should've been, but it hasn't been because the conservatives have been kicking up a stink.

If you want this issue to be put to bed, then shut the conservatives up by voting yes on the issue.

How is it taking your rights away to vote on an issue?

This plebiscite is about politically dealing with an issue once and for all. Imagine if the people overwhelmingly voted yes for SSM, the conservatives, religious leaders couldn't say anything against it, and wouldn't publicly. They would have to support it. It would then gain widespread political support.

Let's shut the Conservatives up...

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 4:16pm: Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 4:05pm: So, let's start with one issue first - the most pressing issue currently, and deal with another things later on. I think you're making excuses. The issue is simple: either you support equality before the law, or you don't? No - I believe in democracy. I'm just concerned that so much money is being wasted a non event. It could have been voted on in parliament for free. I would accept the outcome in that case. I just can't see why other important questions - questions 1000 times more important can't be put on the same ballot paper. It wouldn't cost any more to print the extra questions. I see it as taking away my rights to have a say, & at the same time wasting $122 million. Yes, it should've been, but it hasn't been because the conservatives have been kicking up a stink. If you want this issue to be put to bed, then shut the conservatives up by voting yes on the issue. How is it taking your rights away to vote on an issue? This plebiscite is about politically dealing with an issue once and for all. Imagine if the people overwhelmingly voted yes for SSM, the conservatives, religious leaders couldn't say anything against it, and wouldn't publicly. They would have to support it. It would then gain widespread political support. Let's shut the Conservatives up...

Booby: firstly, this caesar traitor doesn't beleive in democracy: he admitted that 300 posts ago.

He says one thing and then directly admits to not beleiving in what he just said...

It's a written fact  ;)

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Same-sex marriage is a completely different issue from any others that members have proposed, such as defence, immigration, etc. This is because it fundamentally deals with the issue of civil rights, liberties and equality before the law. As a libertarian, there is no greater important issue than civil rights. All other issues such as defence, immigration, etc. are decisions made by elected members (and the government) - that's why we elect them to represent us. In Australia, homosexuals are the LAST MARGINALIZED MINORITY. Once we vote in favour in SSM, then we will have achieved full equality before the law for all citizens of the Commonwealth. So, those who oppose this measure, I say - either you believe in liberty or you believe in autocracy? Which is it?

Firstly i don't beleive caesar is a so called Libertarian!

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 4:02pm: Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 3:53pm: Quote: Apply that principle to euthanasia. We need a lot more questions on the ballot. I agree with euthanasia, but euthanasia is a different issue from granting civil rights and liberties to a minority. Ultimately, if you want more ballot measures then make proposals for citizen-initiated referendum like they have in Switzerland and in California. I'll back you up on this proposal, and even draft a bill if you want. Look - I'd accept this ballot - as costly as it is - if it had a lot more questions on it. Euthanasia is just one extra question - I'm sure we could make 100 more questions. So, let's start with one issue first - the most pressing issue currently, and deal with another things later on. I think you're making excuses. The issue is simple: either you support equality before the law, or you don't?

I'd rather call caesar: the bad calculus!

<chip chip chip chip chip  :o :o :o :o>

caesar is a con man flim flam bullshite artist fullstop!

He should go back and protect his civilisation!

,... Oh wait : he is by invading ours  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULFMp4jKBo